:00:07. > :00:08.Hello and welcome to a new series of Inside Out North West, with me,
:00:09. > :00:40.You have got about 20 kilos to lose. That is pretty terrifying. And a
:00:41. > :00:49.major music and drama about Chester zoo starting this week, we go behind
:00:50. > :00:52.the scenes. It is all really easy when you see it aloud, but never
:00:53. > :01:00.quite happened is that way. The government is recommending
:01:01. > :01:02.that we halve the amount of sugar we eat, to just 5%
:01:03. > :01:07.of our total daily calories. That is 35g for a man
:01:08. > :01:11.and 25g for a woman. We decided to see
:01:12. > :01:17.if this was feasible and set Radio Merseyside's Roger Phillips
:01:18. > :01:20.the challenge of living on just seven teaspoons of sugar a
:01:21. > :01:33.day for the duration of the summer. Those of you who listen to
:01:34. > :01:35.Radio Merseyside will have heard me host the lunchtime phone`in,
:01:36. > :01:38.but just because I am working through my lunch break does not mean
:01:39. > :01:41.I go without food. In fact, there is always some sugary
:01:42. > :01:46.treats lying around the newsroom, so trying to stick to 35g of sugar a
:01:47. > :01:53.day is going to be a real challenge. This is the special table
:01:54. > :01:55.for special occasions. The problem is that, at BBC Radio
:01:56. > :01:57.Merseyside, there is a special Oh, it is Wednesday `
:01:58. > :02:05.let' s have cake! It's somebody's birthday
:02:06. > :02:13.in two weeks, let's have It is all the time here
:02:14. > :02:21.at BBC Radio Merseyside, Well, it's not a problem for me,
:02:22. > :02:24.because I have willpower I can take Well, this is the problem
:02:25. > :02:29.and this is why you have to do it. There is no use taking someone
:02:30. > :02:32.like me go off the sugar, because I could, but you couldn't
:02:33. > :02:35.because you are addicted and, if you don't mind me saying so,
:02:36. > :02:37.Roger, you're a bit portly. You see I can't
:02:38. > :02:42.walk past this table, you see now. I can't walk past this table without
:02:43. > :02:44.wanting to eat all of those. It is my last day,
:02:45. > :02:49.but I can't eat them all. There is a serious side to this `
:02:50. > :02:57.the internet is full of articles Ten things you don't know
:02:58. > :03:08.about sugar And what you don't know It is just devastating if you look
:03:09. > :03:19.around and it does encourage you to do what I am doing and cut out
:03:20. > :03:24.the sugar as best I can. I have a daughter that is getting
:03:25. > :03:27.married in August and, to be quite honest, my shirts don't
:03:28. > :03:32.fit me, my suits don't fit me. I doubt with this shirt
:03:33. > :03:34.I can close it up. I have to wear open`neck shirts,
:03:35. > :03:39.because I can't close them. Why go out and buy a whole load
:03:40. > :03:42.of new clothes? I hope I might be able to treat
:03:43. > :03:47.myself to a whole new suit ready for If there are cakes
:03:48. > :03:53.and biscuits going, then I am quite And maybe makes more visits to
:03:54. > :04:00.the pink sofa, where the cakes and Roger has been very,
:04:01. > :04:10.very good diet`wise on lots If you look at him now,
:04:11. > :04:15.you might not think that, but he can So I would say
:04:16. > :04:20.his chances are improving, but I You should always consult your GP
:04:21. > :04:28.before embarking on a diet, So that is 19 kilos heavier than
:04:29. > :04:42.you were this time last year. So that would mean you have 20 or
:04:43. > :04:44.more kilos to lose before your That is pretty terrifying,
:04:45. > :04:50.but possible. So, I have got to lose
:04:51. > :04:55.just over three stone. To get down to
:04:56. > :04:58.a weight that is close to being a healthy normal weight, as defined
:04:59. > :05:00.by your body mass index, yes. And going
:05:01. > :05:02.for sugar`free is going to help me Sugar is the fuel that we all live
:05:03. > :05:09.on, but when you eat more sugar than your body needs, it turns it into
:05:10. > :05:12.different chemicals, including fat. So if you drastically start to
:05:13. > :05:15.reduce the amount of sugar going into your body and start to do a bit
:05:16. > :05:19.more physical exercise to burn that fuel off more aggressively, your
:05:20. > :05:21.body will look for another fuel. Fat is a really rubbish, inefficient
:05:22. > :05:26.fuel, so once you start burning it, Sometimes I worry
:05:27. > :05:34.about government campaigns. Is it just a scare story
:05:35. > :05:37.about sugar? Because everywhere you look they
:05:38. > :05:41.are saying, cut down on sugar. It is very difficult to
:05:42. > :05:44.legislate for what food we eat. However, in some parts of this city
:05:45. > :05:48.now, we have got up to one third of children in year six of school,
:05:49. > :05:51.that is just when they leave junior school at age 11, are clinically
:05:52. > :05:56.obese and that is terrifying. We are seeing at children's
:05:57. > :05:58.hospitals now, adult onset diabetes Have you seen more and more
:05:59. > :06:07.adults with diabetes, as well? Absolutely, our diabetic register
:06:08. > :06:09.at the practice has grown hugely We are a lot more aggressive
:06:10. > :06:15.at seeking diabetes and Also, we are diagnosing 2,000
:06:16. > :06:19.diabetics So I really have to do this,
:06:20. > :06:25.then don't I, otherwise you will Well, you have got a busy summer
:06:26. > :06:31.on and I think what we should do is get together again at the end
:06:32. > :06:33.of August and I'll do We can get you on the scales
:06:34. > :06:44.and we will see how you have done. We all know that cakes
:06:45. > :06:47.and biscuits are laden with sugar, but it is the less obvious sugars
:06:48. > :06:49.that I need to root out. Right, Robin, I have summoned you
:06:50. > :06:56.here to this store because I have been set this challenge of 35g
:06:57. > :07:00.of sugar per day and you and Alex Well, the reason why 35g has come
:07:01. > :07:06.up, the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition has just
:07:07. > :07:09.produced the report that people have The reason why it reported is
:07:10. > :07:14.because our diet is not very good in this country and the reason why
:07:15. > :07:17.it is not very good is because of the large amount of sugar we have
:07:18. > :07:21.and we are not always aware of it. It does not just lead to
:07:22. > :07:23.people being overweight. Alex and I, as you know, are working
:07:24. > :07:29.on the Healthy Weight Campaign ` Food Active across the North West
:07:30. > :07:31.because we are really concerned with the impact it is costing the NHS,
:07:32. > :07:33.which is costing individuals, I have done it for about three days
:07:34. > :07:40.so far and it has been hopeless, because I do not know what has got
:07:41. > :07:43.sugar in and what has not.I am not eating any fruit
:07:44. > :07:52.because they say there is all this sugar in fruit, because it has got
:07:53. > :07:55.glucose and fructose and Roger,
:07:56. > :08:05.the good news is you can eat fruit. It is the added sugar that we are
:08:06. > :08:10.bothered about, so fruit in There is a whole loads
:08:11. > :08:15.of cereals here. We've just had a look at some
:08:16. > :08:18.of the packets here and you will find with some of them
:08:19. > :08:21.that there are 12g of sugar per Some of them also have quite
:08:22. > :08:25.a lot of salt in, I do think that some people probably
:08:26. > :08:30.presume that cereals are quite healthy
:08:31. > :08:32.because they do present themselves as being very healthy, but people do
:08:33. > :08:35.need to look at the labels. All right,
:08:36. > :08:36.so you have put me off cereals. Well, I want you to have breakfast,
:08:37. > :08:44.actually. Seriously, you could have
:08:45. > :08:45.fruit with natural yoghurt. So, unsweetened yoghurt,
:08:46. > :08:47.natural yoghurt. You can have banana,
:08:48. > :08:49.you can have apples. OK, Robin, so I vaguely know what I
:08:50. > :08:56.am doing for breakfast, but not I know that you know I have
:08:57. > :09:02.a very snacky lunch, for instance, that would be nice to wash
:09:03. > :09:05.down that with. That looks really nice
:09:06. > :09:07.and that is low calorie, I think. I know you are going to
:09:08. > :09:12.tell me that it is wrong. So, sushi, people think this is
:09:13. > :09:15.a healthy choice, but if you have a look, there is actually 11.7g
:09:16. > :09:18.of sugar just in that pot. Well, I could have it,
:09:19. > :09:20.but then I have only got 20 left. And also, that is not exactly
:09:21. > :09:28.going to fill you up. So, this fairly small portion it has
:09:29. > :09:33.actually got 17.8 grams What about the yogurt which wouldn't
:09:34. > :09:41.fill me at all, but I like yogurts. OK,
:09:42. > :09:43.so this serving has 16g of sugar. All right, whatever I have,
:09:44. > :09:46.I will wash it down with that. That is water version,
:09:47. > :09:48.so I will be all right. No,
:09:49. > :09:50.this orange juice has 50g of sugar. No,
:09:51. > :10:00.this orange juice has 50g of sugar. That is only relating to 2`3
:10:01. > :10:18.servings per bottle, so you are only supposed to have a third or a half
:10:19. > :10:21.of this bottle at any one time. Obviously, most people would
:10:22. > :10:23.have the whole bottle. The reason why it is so high
:10:24. > :10:27.in sugar is because it is the produce of a lot of oranges
:10:28. > :10:30.and when the juice is actually in the orange that is OK, because
:10:31. > :10:33.it is also there with the fibre, But when it is juiced, you are
:10:34. > :10:38.just getting the pure sugar. So, they haven't added sugar to it,
:10:39. > :10:40.not in the way they have added It is just the natural sugar
:10:41. > :10:44.from the fruit. Because it has had that many
:10:45. > :10:46.oranges squeezed into it. But if I had one orange
:10:47. > :10:48.for lunch. I am afraid to say that I am not
:10:49. > :10:55.much of a cook, but my wife, when she does cook,
:10:56. > :10:59.when I am home for her to cook for me, she will cook, let's say a
:11:00. > :11:01.shepherd's pie and she doesn't pour But her cottage pies taste
:11:02. > :11:06.better than theirs. Yes, so it tastes much better cooked
:11:07. > :11:13.from scratch, so eat homemade food, None of
:11:14. > :11:16.the food manufacturers we approached would speak to us, so we asked The
:11:17. > :11:18.Food and Drink Federation why sugar Sugar is added as an ingredient
:11:19. > :11:23.to product for different reasons. For example, to add flavour
:11:24. > :11:25.and texture and colour and to preserve food, to reduce the
:11:26. > :11:27.microbiological spoilage of food. Sugar is a really important
:11:28. > :11:30.ingredient for a number of products. For example,
:11:31. > :11:32.it can reduce the acidity, so if you have a pasta sauce,
:11:33. > :11:36.you can add a little bit of sugar, which people do when they cook
:11:37. > :11:38.their own pasta sauces at home, to So, sugar is
:11:39. > :11:42.a very versatile ingredient and it Now that I know I can have fruit,
:11:43. > :11:53.I am finding my new regime surprisingly easy, just as long as I
:11:54. > :11:56.avoid fruit juice. These four oranges, when squeezed,
:11:57. > :12:01.make a glass of juice which contains 30g of sugar ` more or less
:12:02. > :12:08.the same as a glass of cola. How is Roger Phillips getting
:12:09. > :12:10.on with his diet? He is throwing things
:12:11. > :12:15.around the office. That was Tuesday,
:12:16. > :12:18.that was Wednesday. Oh, that is something
:12:19. > :12:23.else he has thrown. It is partly psychological, I think,
:12:24. > :12:31.I feel I am doing something. For the first time,
:12:32. > :12:33.I am taking control for myself and the notion of the reduced sugar, or
:12:34. > :12:38.35g of sugar, that is a focus for me I achieve it every day
:12:39. > :12:47.and that is great. As I have been told Type 2 Diabetes
:12:48. > :12:50.is reaching epidemic proportions, I go and find out what it would be
:12:51. > :12:54.like to live with the condition. Tommy Brown was diagnosed five
:12:55. > :12:56.years ago, at the age of 50. What is it
:12:57. > :12:59.like living with diabetes? It can be difficult, because when
:13:00. > :13:02.you are used to eating all the cakes and especially chocolates, fizzy
:13:03. > :13:07.drink, coca cola and orange drinks, You have to keep your sugar
:13:08. > :13:17.levels as low as you can. You have got to eat healthily,
:13:18. > :13:22.anyway. Veg, fruit and veg,
:13:23. > :13:25.cut out fatty foods because fatty You have got to keep
:13:26. > :13:31.your weight down and exercise. Certainly I have become aware that
:13:32. > :13:34.there is this element of a ticking time bomb about diabetes that it is
:13:35. > :13:37.going to be causing really serious The dangers you can lose your sight
:13:38. > :13:49.through bad diabetes control. It can also cause kidney damage,
:13:50. > :13:54.again without looking With feet, you can see,
:13:55. > :14:01.and with your eyes, you know that Kidneys, you might not know,
:14:02. > :14:06.and it could just be slowly eating away, causing damage to your kidneys
:14:07. > :14:16.and you are totally unaware of it. Shocked by what Tommy's told me, I
:14:17. > :14:19.resolve to up my exercise and take One thing is I'm enjoying fruit
:14:20. > :14:30.and salads to an extent I never did and I am avoiding that table
:14:31. > :14:38.in our newsroom where all people keep piling very bad things which I
:14:39. > :14:42.used to eat a lot as I passed by. I'd have one and as I passed by,
:14:43. > :14:45.I might eat another one, so I used to eat an awful lot
:14:46. > :14:47.of those bad things. I've managed to control
:14:48. > :14:51.my diet relatively well. I can't say totally, but not
:14:52. > :14:54.too bad and it's been easier. I must admit Lulu
:14:55. > :15:01.and I have become quite friendly considering, because of the walking,
:15:02. > :15:04.she doesn't really like me. She doesn't
:15:05. > :15:07.like blokes She's a rescue dog, so we don't know what happened in the
:15:08. > :15:16.past, but she is getting better. For me,
:15:17. > :15:18.the most surprising discovery is the It is something pressure
:15:19. > :15:21.group Action On Sugar is I meet one of its founders,
:15:22. > :15:27.Professor Simon Capewell. What we said was sugar is
:15:28. > :15:30.the new tobacco and what we meant by that is that it was now
:15:31. > :15:35.a major public health problem. In the 1980s, people knew smoking
:15:36. > :15:39.was a bad thing, but people weren't We were building our case
:15:40. > :15:55.on science and we thought it was outrageous that ordinary people were
:15:56. > :16:02.being kept in the dark about how That's what I've
:16:03. > :16:14.discovered doing this. Sugar is hidden everywhere,
:16:15. > :16:16.so either you get very good at reading labels or you
:16:17. > :16:19.progressively modify your diet, you cut down on the sugary drinks
:16:20. > :16:23.and the sugary fruit juices. Ideally, chuck them away and you
:16:24. > :16:25.ideally cut down on the processed Go more to preparing stuff at home,
:16:26. > :16:35.to fruit and veg and salads. And a lot of people have done
:16:36. > :16:40.that and feel better for it. But the Food and Drink Federation
:16:41. > :16:42.say we should be counting calories Focusing on individual nutrients
:16:43. > :16:50.is not necessarily helpful. Because it is the link with
:16:51. > :16:55.obesity that needs to be explored. And reducing incidents
:16:56. > :17:01.of obesity can be achieved Yes, you can reduce calories
:17:02. > :17:10.by choosing products with less sugar in some cases, but in other cases,
:17:11. > :17:13.products with low sugar still have the same amount of calories, because
:17:14. > :17:19.sugar will need to be replaced with other ingredients or other nutrients
:17:20. > :17:25.that have similar calorie content. And if you want to find out more
:17:26. > :17:36.about how tough it was for Roger it has been seven weeks since I saw
:17:37. > :18:04.you. John bone. That is 108. That is not so bad. You have lost
:18:05. > :18:21.five kilos. How was it for you? Surprisingly good. I thought I had
:18:22. > :18:30.lost about ?7. Five is not bad. I going to try and keep on doing it. I
:18:31. > :18:37.think we could shift to stored in a reasonable amount of time. If you
:18:38. > :18:44.are comfortable doing something which fits around your commitments,
:18:45. > :18:53.you are far more likely to do that. Well, ?5 is not quite as much as I
:18:54. > :18:58.would of liked. But it is a start. I feel good about that. If I can
:18:59. > :19:05.continue like that, I could lose more. But it is my daughter 's
:19:06. > :19:13.fault, she should not have got married. But there are no further
:19:14. > :19:18.marriages in prospect. But I am hoping I can keep this up and get
:19:19. > :19:23.really fit in the future. And if you want to find out more
:19:24. > :19:26.about how tough it was for Roger and what you can do to improve
:19:27. > :19:29.your health, tune in to Radio A new drama about Chester Zoo
:19:30. > :19:38.starts this week on BBC1. Jacey Normand has been to the zoo to
:19:39. > :19:42.find out more about the true story of the zoo's founder, George
:19:43. > :19:45.Mottershead, and to discover how he was a pioneer in the important
:19:46. > :19:48.conservation role performed by zoos today Set in the 1930s,
:19:49. > :20:04.Our Zoo is the story of one man's It is perfect. What is going on? I
:20:05. > :20:15.want to build a zoo. Set in the 1930s,
:20:16. > :20:18.Our Zoo is the story of one man's The drama has been shot on
:20:19. > :20:22.location across the North West. Today's scene is being filmed
:20:23. > :20:24.in the picturesque Cheshire village And it seems the whole village has
:20:25. > :20:30.turned out to watch the drama and But the stars in question are
:20:31. > :20:47.a little bit camera`shy. Recording
:20:48. > :20:49.a scene with wild animals in this instance, penguins, is not really
:20:50. > :20:52.the type of thing you can rehearse. That, taken alongside the fact that
:20:53. > :20:56.the whole town has turned up to watch, might mean that the cast and
:20:57. > :21:23.crew have to do a few practises. We work with some fantastic animal
:21:24. > :21:29.handlers. The animals are treated was like child actors. There's a
:21:30. > :21:51.maximum amount of filming time we do them. They are very well looked
:21:52. > :22:01.after. How do you gone with the animals? It is one of these things,
:22:02. > :22:06.they tell you, EB will just do lines and then we will do this and do
:22:07. > :22:10.that, but naturally, with the animals, it does not always work out
:22:11. > :22:14.like that. Lee has infinity with them
:22:15. > :22:18.because they are round about Actor Lee Ingleby plays
:22:19. > :22:22.the lead role of George Mottershead, whose daughter June Williams played
:22:23. > :22:23.an important consultant role June gave us as much information
:22:24. > :22:27.as she could. Her relationship with her dad
:22:28. > :22:29.and his relationship with the zoo and how it started
:22:30. > :22:31.and how driven he was. So, I suppose with
:22:32. > :22:34.the script that we have, it is just marrying those two together
:22:35. > :22:37.and making it work, I think. June, who is 88,
:22:38. > :22:38.has been invited onto How does it feel
:22:39. > :22:48.for you to see your family history It is very exciting, because I never
:22:49. > :23:14.dreamed, in my wildest dreams, Your granny is going to kill me.
:23:15. > :23:19.Man, too. Have we really get a monkey, as well? He has finally
:23:20. > :23:20.correct. When you were a child growing up,
:23:21. > :23:25.did it feel unusual to you? You say it is different growing up,
:23:26. > :23:34.but I took it all in my stride But there was nothing
:23:35. > :23:41.at all ordinary about June's Their father George Mottershead had
:23:42. > :23:45.been injured fighting in On return to England,
:23:46. > :23:51.he opened a shop in Crewe and began His growing menagerie attracted
:23:52. > :23:57.members of the public and, by 1930, But not everyone shared
:23:58. > :24:08.his enthusiasm for locating a zoo They did not want us, but mainly
:24:09. > :24:15.because it was letting down the tone of the area, because, of course,
:24:16. > :24:20.these were gentlemens' residences and they were frightened of some
:24:21. > :24:22.of the animals, the dangerous Some dogs you pat, won't you, and
:24:23. > :24:45.other dogs you will not go near. You judge them
:24:46. > :24:48.by their reactions to you. One of June's favourite animals
:24:49. > :24:50.at the zoo was Well, Mary came as a baby and she
:24:51. > :24:57.was more or less hand`reared. There is a photograph of her helping
:24:58. > :25:14.to build the lion enclosure. And the whole concept of having
:25:15. > :25:16.a zoo without lots of bars, how In those days, they had lots of
:25:17. > :25:22.these small square cages with bars ` But it takes courage to put
:25:23. > :25:44.chimpanzees and an island with just water around them and many people
:25:45. > :25:53.would not take that chance. They have been friends since they were
:25:54. > :25:57.cubs. There was an open`air pets, to stop the hungry beer is getting out.
:25:58. > :26:01.After a bath, they can have the bait. For the children, no visit is
:26:02. > :26:06.complete without a raid Chester Zoo has come a long way
:26:07. > :26:08.since the 1930s but remarkably, the foundations on which it was
:26:09. > :26:11.built have remained a crucial part of everything it does today and,
:26:12. > :26:14.next year, it enters an exciting A 14`acre extension to the zoo
:26:15. > :26:24.opens to the public in the spring. Staying true to George Mottershead's
:26:25. > :26:28.vision of a zoo without bars, the animals will be housed on islands,
:26:29. > :26:44.accessible on foot and by boat. George Mottershead was passionate
:26:45. > :26:47.about animal conservation and it is as important at Chester Zoo today
:26:48. > :26:52.as it was when he first started. Scott, they are amazing
:26:53. > :26:55.when you see them this close up. So, tell me about some
:26:56. > :26:58.of the current conservation work you have been doing with these
:26:59. > :27:00.beautiful creatures. Unfortunately, in the wild, these
:27:01. > :27:03.guys are under a lot of threat. The forests are being cut down
:27:04. > :27:07.at alarming rates. And this crop is replacing where
:27:08. > :27:16.the forests were, so a lot of the populations of orangutans
:27:17. > :27:19.are heavily fragmented, which is We can see he is eating there,
:27:20. > :27:25.but I understand that some of these have actually got
:27:26. > :27:28.their own dentist, which has been quite crucial for some of
:27:29. > :27:30.the research you have been doing. Yes, unfortunately, a lot
:27:31. > :27:33.of the impacts in the wild result in a lot of orphaned animals coming
:27:34. > :27:37.into sanctuaries in Indonesia. It is quite important to be able to
:27:38. > :27:41.age those animals and see how old they are and we have
:27:42. > :27:45.been able to do research here at Chester Zoo on our own animals to
:27:46. > :27:47.look into their teeth and use that They're very inquisitive,
:27:48. > :28:00.aren't they? I just wondered how you think
:28:01. > :28:22.your father would have felt knowing your life story and
:28:23. > :28:24.your family's life story is being Oh, I think he would
:28:25. > :28:28.have been thrilled. And he would have been thrilled that
:28:29. > :28:30.his family were mentioned. And you can watch Our Zoo
:28:31. > :28:35.on Wednesday night here on BBC One. Do not forget, you can catch
:28:36. > :28:47.us again on the BBC iPlayer. Next week, flight planning
:28:48. > :29:01.applications in the north`west are making people see red. If things do
:29:02. > :29:05.not change, people will not be able to enjoy the sort of things
:29:06. > :29:08.Hello, I'm Ellie Crisell with your 90 Second Update.
:29:09. > :29:11.The parents of seriously ill Ashya King are tonight in a Spanish
:29:12. > :29:17.They were arrested after removing him from a Southampton hospital.
:29:18. > :29:22.The family say they did it to get alternative cancer treatment.