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:00:00. > :00:00.Hello, and welcome to Inside Out North West,

:00:00. > :00:17.On Inside Out tonight: The woman offering her bank account to crooks.

:00:18. > :00:20.We investigate the classified ads website being hijacked by criminals

:00:21. > :00:27.Four months after the Grenfell Tower disaster, we meet the residents

:00:28. > :00:30.of a Salford tower block who are living in fear.

:00:31. > :00:35.I feel very vulnerable, and I'm finding it very difficult to sleep.

:00:36. > :00:43.You're just living in a tinderbox, waiting for it to go up.

:00:44. > :00:45.And we go behind the scenes at a Lake District stable,

:00:46. > :00:51.to discover what makes a top racing trainer.

:00:52. > :00:54.Jumps well, and has got good winning form.

:00:55. > :00:57.He will be in pretty competitive type of races.

:00:58. > :01:00.And hopefully he should be winning the owner's purchase price back

:01:01. > :01:16.Tonight, we reveal the shocking findings of an undercover

:01:17. > :01:18.investigation into the availability of illegal products

:01:19. > :01:26.For the last six months, we've been looking at Craigslist,

:01:27. > :01:29.the classified ads website which has been hijacked by criminals right

:01:30. > :01:39.As an investigative journalist, it's sometimes easier to work

:01:40. > :01:42.When people aren't watching what you're doing.

:01:43. > :01:57.If you are looking for something illegal, it is the go-to part

:01:58. > :01:59.of the Internet that is hidden from prying eyes.

:02:00. > :02:02.The place where criminals use encrypted websites and virtual

:02:03. > :02:06.You don't need to bother with all that, mate.

:02:07. > :02:14.Yeah, if you budge up, I'll show you.

:02:15. > :02:15.Shouldn't you be getting on with the...?

:02:16. > :02:17.Oh, no, it's fine, I've got ten minutes.

:02:18. > :02:34.It was set up in America, by a guy called...

:02:35. > :02:42.It's a website, where people buy and sell everything.

:02:43. > :02:47.Just say where you live, and get started.

:02:48. > :02:50.But lots of the stuff on Craigslist won't be in the buy and sell section

:02:51. > :02:54.of your local newspaper - including bootleg tobacco.

:02:55. > :02:57.The kind of cigs you'd probably buy from some dodgy

:02:58. > :02:59.geezer outside a pub, or in this case,

:03:00. > :03:07.So they're knocked off, then, or are they...

:03:08. > :03:12.No, no, they're old packaging but they can't resell

:03:13. > :03:29.He says his supplier's else on Craigslist.

:03:30. > :03:31.I've seen some crazy stuff on Craigslist!

:03:32. > :03:34.That's why I've come to another car park,

:03:35. > :03:42.And that's why his tobacco is just a third of the price

:03:43. > :03:55.But there is a difference, because counterfeit goods are among

:03:56. > :04:00.the things Craigslist says you're not supposed to sell on its website.

:04:01. > :04:06.Yeah, but no-one takes any notice of that!

:04:07. > :04:12.It's as easy to find marijuana on Craigslist

:04:13. > :04:21.And you might need a seat, because what I'm buying next

:04:22. > :04:25.I'm on a Derby estate, to meet a dealer selling

:04:26. > :04:47.Turns out as street cocaine goes, it's pretty pure stuff.

:04:48. > :04:55.Well, I'm shocked at what's there, because it's not difficult

:04:56. > :04:58.for the Internet companies to put elements onto their websites to be

:04:59. > :05:02.And they should be policing it and taking it down.

:05:03. > :05:05.But if you have made money from crime, you won't want

:05:06. > :05:09.What you need is someone to hide it, perhaps in their bank account.

:05:10. > :05:22.But where would I find someone to do that?

:05:23. > :05:25.She's offering her bank account on Craigslist to anyone

:05:26. > :05:37.But we are walking into the bank, to pay in what I've told her

:05:38. > :05:41.She'll charge me a fee to get it back, and there are plenty

:05:42. > :05:44.on Craigslist offering to do the same thing - sometimes,

:05:45. > :05:49.But if you've sent your money overseas, how are you

:05:50. > :06:00.And I know just the place you can get it.

:06:01. > :06:06.The place where I can find a stolen passport.

:06:07. > :06:24.And there are plenty more where that came from.

:06:25. > :06:27.I've known some stories where it's taken people ten years

:06:28. > :06:29.to get their credit ratings back again, after it's been completely

:06:30. > :06:31.trashed by people who have stolen their identities.

:06:32. > :06:34.But it'll allow you to get on and commit other crimes,

:06:35. > :06:41.And it's not just about selling stuff.

:06:42. > :06:53.This advert's looking for postmen to steal the letters

:06:54. > :06:54.they're supposed to be delivering.

:06:55. > :06:56.On Craigslist, there is also disorganised crime.

:06:57. > :06:59.This guy wants someone to pass his driving theory test for him.

:07:00. > :07:06.But for 50 quid, it's not that black and white.

:07:07. > :07:08.For a start, he's black and I'm white,

:07:09. > :07:23.Won't they check your photo against their database?

:07:24. > :07:26.But there's no way I'm going to get through.

:07:27. > :07:28.When I later revealed I'm a journalist, he didn't

:07:29. > :07:36.And neither did Craigslist, in fact when we asked

:07:37. > :07:44.And that came from the top, the Chief Executive's office.

:07:45. > :07:47.I think whilst they're making money, and whilst nobody is turning

:07:48. > :07:52.round and asking them, or forcing them, to try

:07:53. > :07:56.and change what's going on, you'll find sites like this

:07:57. > :07:59.using the ostrich effect to what's going on, sticking their head

:08:00. > :08:03.No wonder criminals can carry on regardless.

:08:04. > :08:05.Well, unless they're really selling to a journalist.

:08:06. > :08:08.If you look out there, there's a camera.

:08:09. > :08:13.And I'd like to know, mate, why you're...

:08:14. > :08:21.Oh, my God, my mother's going to kill me.

:08:22. > :08:23.But he's not the only one thinking about his relatives.

:08:24. > :08:27.I don't know why I'm doing it, to be honest.

:08:28. > :08:29.I'm trying to make money, for my family.

:08:30. > :08:33.Take a good look at my cocaine dealer, cos he's

:08:34. > :08:45.Thing is, mate, I work for the BBC, and we're trying

:08:46. > :08:54.Back in Ashton-under-Lyne, what about Stacey?

:08:55. > :08:56.I'm trying to find out why you are willing

:08:57. > :09:18.I'm not buying a passport off you, mate, because I work for the BBC.

:09:19. > :09:21.And I want to know why you're selling stolen passports, mate.

:09:22. > :09:29.Why are you selling stolen passports?

:09:30. > :09:36.The amount of organised crime that there is sitting

:09:37. > :09:39.everything that you show on there is frightening.

:09:40. > :09:42.And it's critical, I think, that the police force or the law

:09:43. > :09:44.enforcement agencies force the likes of Craigslist to do

:09:45. > :09:51.When we asked to interview a minister, all we got was a Home

:09:52. > :10:01.Well, we've kind of done that for them already.

:10:02. > :10:05.So maybe it's time the Government forced websites like Craigslist

:10:06. > :10:17.Everyone was horrified by the Grenfell Tower disaster,

:10:18. > :10:21.But for those living in tower blocks with similar

:10:22. > :10:23.cladding to the kind used, well, the tragedy has been

:10:24. > :10:29.I've been to meet some of the residents of one

:10:30. > :10:36.tower block in Salford, who nearly five months down the line

:10:37. > :10:39.are still waiting for the cladding on their building to be removed.

:10:40. > :10:44.But after the horrific scenes at Grenfell, I just lay in bed

:10:45. > :10:57.So I get up, make myself a little drink, or I go and stand up

:10:58. > :11:01.And then I'll come in here, I'll chat to people locally on Facebook,

:11:02. > :11:04.and then somebody will say hi from Grenfell, and

:11:05. > :11:10.They ask us what the progress is, then we just say goodbye and I'm

:11:11. > :11:14.I try and do things to take my mind off it.

:11:15. > :11:19.He lives on the eighth floor of Canon Hussey Court,

:11:20. > :11:27.one of 32 tower blocks in Salford which have been identified as having

:11:28. > :11:30.the same or a similar type of cladding to that

:11:31. > :11:34.Before Grenfell Tower, I felt quite safe.

:11:35. > :11:37.But I was in Turkey on holiday when I saw the horrific

:11:38. > :11:39.events unfolding on TV, and straightaway I was

:11:40. > :11:45.So it immediately crossed your mind that you could potentially be

:11:46. > :11:53.Cos it was mentioned on the news that lots of other blocks of flats

:11:54. > :11:56.UK-wide might be the same cladding, so it made me feel

:11:57. > :12:00.When I got home, I found up Salix, my home provider, and they tried

:12:01. > :12:10.to reassure me that everything they could do would get done ASAP.

:12:11. > :12:12.What kind of things were you looking to get done?

:12:13. > :12:16.What would have given you reassurance?

:12:17. > :12:19.A gang of guys here, and get the cladding off straightaway.

:12:20. > :12:22.But I knew that couldn't be done, because of the way the installation

:12:23. > :12:26.It would be exposed to the elements, the rain and frost etc.

:12:27. > :12:32.So all that would have to come off at the same time.

:12:33. > :12:35.So it's a mammoth task, you were aware it's

:12:36. > :12:43.But what comes first, money or lives?

:12:44. > :12:45.In the aftermath of the Grenfell disaster in June, the Government

:12:46. > :12:48.ordered tests to be carried out on cladding on all tower

:12:49. > :12:55.There is confusion over the precise number of tower blocks which have

:12:56. > :13:00.failed the fire safety tests since June.

:13:01. > :13:02.Initial testing procedures were revised, and cladding on blocks

:13:03. > :13:05.which originally failed were later passed.

:13:06. > :13:09.But in Salford, 32 buildings have been deemed unsafe.

:13:10. > :13:16.Nine of these blocks belong to Salford City Council.

:13:17. > :13:18.It has secured a loan of ?25 million to replace the cladding,

:13:19. > :13:21.and work has now started on its towers.

:13:22. > :13:24.The remaining Salford blocks which are affected belong to private

:13:25. > :13:26.housing associations, including Canon Hussey

:13:27. > :13:32.It's one of seven tower blocks belonging to Salix Homes,

:13:33. > :13:37.which is still waiting for cladding to be replaced.

:13:38. > :13:39.I've just been told they're waiting for a directive from Government

:13:40. > :13:46.or planning or whatever on what type of cladding to replace

:13:47. > :13:53.So we're just in limbo, and it's a frightening limbo to live in.

:13:54. > :13:56.When I saw the image of it, it was just sheer shock really.

:13:57. > :14:03.Never crossed my mind that that could happen.

:14:04. > :14:06.Another resident who lives in the same block as Tom

:14:07. > :14:08.was horrified when she saw the Grenfell fire on television.

:14:09. > :14:11.She agreed to talk to us about her fears, but didn't

:14:12. > :14:28.And knowing as well, as you watched it unfolding,

:14:29. > :14:30.you're seeing all these emergency services which were

:14:31. > :14:39.Did you immediately think, "I live in a high-rise building",

:14:40. > :14:48.And that's why I asked questions, just to be told that they've no

:14:49. > :14:53.I can see out of my window, blocks that they ARE taking it off.

:14:54. > :14:55.And you feel, "Well, they're getting looked after - we're not."

:14:56. > :14:58.So has it crossed your mind what your plan would be,

:14:59. > :15:00.if there were to be a fire in this building?

:15:01. > :15:07.get out and walk down the stairs, and hope for the best.

:15:08. > :15:10.My main concern is would I ever be found, like them poor people?

:15:11. > :15:21.I honestly feel that I probably wouldn't get out in time,

:15:22. > :15:25.because when there's been fires here before, I've not found

:15:26. > :15:28.out until the next day or maybe week later,

:15:29. > :15:30.that there's actually been a fire in the block.

:15:31. > :15:35.When I do actually find out, is it going to be too

:15:36. > :15:39.We invited Salix Homes to take part in this programme.

:15:40. > :15:42.They said nobody was able for interview, but they did

:15:43. > :15:46."We are currently taking professional advice from technical

:15:47. > :15:49.experts in Government and industry, to develop a personal solution

:15:50. > :16:00.We'll be carrying out this work as quickly as possible.

:16:01. > :16:03.We cannot provide clear timescales for when this work will begin.

:16:04. > :16:05.We do anticipate, however, that the remedial work

:16:06. > :16:08.across our affected tower blocks is likely to take a number

:16:09. > :16:20.Salix Homes says it's introduced round-the-clock security

:16:21. > :16:23.patrols at its blocks, and installed a new state of the art

:16:24. > :16:25.fire alarms in all flats and communal areas of

:16:26. > :16:29.So, what more can be done to speed up the process?

:16:30. > :16:32.Paul Dennett is Salford city mayor, and is responsible for the council

:16:33. > :16:35.But he's also been appointed head of the Greater Manchester

:16:36. > :16:38.High Rise Task Force, and is in dialogue with private

:16:39. > :16:41.What pressure can you put on the private housing providers?

:16:42. > :16:43.In terms of pressure on the housing providers,

:16:44. > :16:47.in the private sector, I think we have to work with them.

:16:48. > :16:52.At the end of the day we've set up the High Rise Task Force,

:16:53. > :16:58.there is a private sector group there, we are working with them

:16:59. > :17:01.to explore how they find solutions to some of this.

:17:02. > :17:02.They've asked very specific questions of local authority

:17:03. > :17:05.and Government about whether or not Government can help with some

:17:06. > :17:08.of this in financial terms, but ultimately I think the private

:17:09. > :17:11.sector are responsible for finding solutions for the residents that

:17:12. > :17:14.What do you think that the Government should

:17:15. > :17:17.Because initially their response was, whatever is necessary.

:17:18. > :17:19.Now there appears to be some backtracking -

:17:20. > :17:25.Well, I think where we've reached, certainly within Greater Manchester,

:17:26. > :17:33.is we're clear that the building regulations and the fire and safety

:17:34. > :17:35.order in terms of how they are applied,

:17:36. > :17:39.So as far as we're concerned the Government has to take some

:17:40. > :17:43.One of the questions I've not had adequately answered to date is,

:17:44. > :17:45.why was this material ever on the market in Britain,

:17:46. > :17:48.when other places like the US and Germany didn't allow it?

:17:49. > :17:58.We've been in dialogue with the department of local government, and

:17:59. > :18:02.it is a protracted process which is not good enough, really. In the

:18:03. > :18:06.immediate aftermath of the Grenfell fire, the Government said it would

:18:07. > :18:11.assist local councils and housing associations which could not afford

:18:12. > :18:18.to remove failed cladding from tower blocks. Whatever remedial measures

:18:19. > :18:23.need to be taken to make buildings safe, local authorities should get

:18:24. > :18:27.on with those, and for those that need help with funding, we are ready

:18:28. > :18:31.to discuss that with them and we will work with them. But since then

:18:32. > :18:35.the Government has said it is the responsibility of building owners to

:18:36. > :18:41.make sure their properties are safe from residents, and it expects them

:18:42. > :18:45.to fund fire safety measures. Back at Canon hussy court, the anxious

:18:46. > :18:53.wait continues for Tom and other residents. What will make you feel

:18:54. > :19:01.safe? When the cladding is replaced. No sprinklers, fire alarms? They are

:19:02. > :19:06.only to put fires out and warn you about fires. This is what will catch

:19:07. > :19:13.fire, the cladding. That is what needs changing, as soon as possible.

:19:14. > :19:18.Has it crossed your mind to move? I must admit slightly. I love my flat,

:19:19. > :19:23.I love Salford and the people, so I don't really want to move. I've been

:19:24. > :19:28.here 15 years after travelling for a long time, this flat is now my home.

:19:29. > :19:36.So I don't want to move, I just want to feel safe.

:19:37. > :19:42.With the Grand National on our doorstep, the Northwest is

:19:43. > :19:46.synonymous with horse racing. But how much hard work does it take to

:19:47. > :19:48.train the winner at a big race? We've been to Cartmel in Cumbria to

:19:49. > :20:06.find out about life as a trainer. You've never heard the like of it!

:20:07. > :20:16.Red Rum wins the Grand National. A high-stakes world of glitz and

:20:17. > :20:19.glamour. A place where multimillionaire

:20:20. > :20:27.owners battle it out on the sporting stage.

:20:28. > :20:31.But what is the reality for the men and women whose job it is to train

:20:32. > :20:35.horses for races like the Grand National? We spent the last few

:20:36. > :20:46.months in one of the most picturesque stables in the country,

:20:47. > :20:54.to find out. Is she a good ride? Does she jump

:20:55. > :20:59.OK? You've spoken to the stable staff, sampled every aspect of an

:21:00. > :21:07.equine operation at the yard of Jimmy Moffat. His family's been

:21:08. > :21:13.training courses in Cartmel for decades. The village is famous for

:21:14. > :21:19.its race track, one of the most popular in the country. I have never

:21:20. > :21:35.known anything else. It is a way of life. It is so rewarding. -- very

:21:36. > :21:40.rewarding. Here, there are just 30 horses. The operation may be small,

:21:41. > :21:47.but Jimmy's ranked in the top 20 out of 600 British trainers. He doesn't

:21:48. > :21:53.realise how important he is in the area, but there are not -- lots of

:21:54. > :22:02.local owners and people who get attached to his yard, who support

:22:03. > :22:09.him. And this is where the story usually starts. It is a sunny

:22:10. > :22:16.morning in May, and Jimmy's talent spotting at Doncaster's horse sales.

:22:17. > :22:23.First horse we bought at the two-day sale, he is a nine-year-old chaser,

:22:24. > :22:32.should do well in the North, jumps well, and has got winning form, so

:22:33. > :22:35.we paid 10,000 guineas for him, but he is rated 128 which means that he

:22:36. > :22:42.will be in pretty competitive type of races, and hopefully he should be

:22:43. > :22:48.winning the owner's purchase price back within the next six months or

:22:49. > :22:54.so. There are hundreds of choices here, but only a few are potential

:22:55. > :22:58.champions. If you buy one that is not up to the job, he won betrayed

:22:59. > :23:07.any winners, and nobody will want to put any horses with you. -- you will

:23:08. > :23:11.not train any winners. Jimmy buys horses on behalf of owners who pay

:23:12. > :23:18.him to keep, train and prepare them for races around the country. Do you

:23:19. > :23:23.want some attention? We stayed in a little cottage so we

:23:24. > :23:29.could see the gallops of a morning. I've always been interested in horse

:23:30. > :23:37.racing, and I was mesmerised by horses. James had owners with other

:23:38. > :23:42.-- his horse is sympathetic -- symptomatic of the Moffatt approach,

:23:43. > :23:48.arriving at the yard as an underachiever, blossoming as the

:23:49. > :23:53.result of some lakeside TLC. They wondered what was wrong with him, he

:23:54. > :24:00.was released and fish. We got the vet out on the dentist out, so his

:24:01. > :24:10.-- they saw that his teeth were misaligned, we sorted that out and

:24:11. > :24:15.he is a different horse. The horses who are trained on the

:24:16. > :24:22.Cartmel Fells. They are written a head by Jimmy and his stable staff.

:24:23. > :24:28.The same staff who work physical 12 hour days, feeding, grooming and

:24:29. > :24:34.mucking out. We would ride around together for free, and we ride

:24:35. > :24:39.around together and get paid, so it's fun. And Jimmy's a really good

:24:40. > :24:43.boss as well. So we all have a laugh. I think if you don't have a

:24:44. > :24:51.laugh, it can be dangerous so you have to laugh everything of! This is

:24:52. > :24:57.a Cumbrian collective Polly and Charlotte Drive from Barrow each and

:24:58. > :25:00.every day. -- this is a Cumbrian collective, they drive from Barrow

:25:01. > :25:11.each and every day. The vet comes from Grange over Sands. And the

:25:12. > :25:18.farrier arrives every Thursday, anvil in his van. No food, no horse.

:25:19. > :25:22.It is time -- hard to win a race, and it is getting harder and harder

:25:23. > :25:30.every year with better horses, and Jimmy stays up there and is always

:25:31. > :25:35.doing really well. This isn't just a story about the Moffatt family,

:25:36. > :25:39.theirs is a business which touches plenty of people. Cartmel is as

:25:40. > :25:46.famous for horse racing as it is for sticky toffee pudding. They have

:25:47. > :25:52.been racing here since the 1400s. The New York Times rated a day out

:25:53. > :25:58.here higher than a trip to Tibet in its 50 things to do before you die.

:25:59. > :26:04.For Jimmy, though, this is home, a place where he can walk his horses

:26:05. > :26:08.to the track, a place he has come to dominate. That is important because

:26:09. > :26:15.obviously the local people are bound to follow some of our horses. When

:26:16. > :26:22.you do not have a local yard, the racecourse doesn't have that same

:26:23. > :26:26.sort of identity. -- the racehorse. And Jimmy loves Cartmel, he was born

:26:27. > :26:30.and bred, he loves the whole area. And that sort of support is

:26:31. > :26:39.magnificent for the racecourse. This one wants fast ground, and it has

:26:40. > :26:43.one in Salford. But not every owner is a millionaire. This syndicate

:26:44. > :26:50.owns a horse Jimmy bought it at the sales back in May. Yellow macro you

:26:51. > :26:57.guys have saved up your hard earned money and done it. My lads who

:26:58. > :27:01.worked of the road, up against people who are millionaires, we are

:27:02. > :27:07.in with the big boys, just see how we go and hopefully one day we will

:27:08. > :27:13.be in the winner 's' enclosure. On Wednesday, the race came true, as

:27:14. > :27:26.the horse won its first race at Wetherby. -- their dream came true.

:27:27. > :27:31.And that is the ongoing aim, to be a more successful runners on the

:27:32. > :27:36.Cumbrian fells. I think it makes it more notable for your family and

:27:37. > :27:41.friends ate it is local. The whole of Barrow pretty much go to Cartmel

:27:42. > :27:47.racecourse. They know that we work here, and Jimmy's a local trainer.

:27:48. > :27:57.Pretty much the whole time's behind him and stuff, so that is good as

:27:58. > :28:01.well. -- the whole town. It is a bit more like -- a bit like David and

:28:02. > :28:04.Goliath, but you know a lot of the people in the area, and I think they

:28:05. > :28:09.are genuinely pleased when we have some success. We've had a lot of

:28:10. > :28:15.warmth because of that, and I suppose it encourages the in some

:28:16. > :28:28.ways to try even harder and bring some success to the local area.

:28:29. > :28:33.What stunning horses. That's all from as this week, Inside Out is

:28:34. > :28:40.back next Monday. Till then, goodbye. -- that's all from us. Next

:28:41. > :28:47.week, the mystery of two skeletons found it together at a Cheshire big.

:28:48. > :28:52.Why are they here? You do not get too many skeletons in castles. They

:28:53. > :29:02.are really quite rare. That has been a big mystery for us.

:29:03. > :29:10.Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update.

:29:11. > :29:13.The European Commission has denied a report that Theresa May

:29:14. > :29:15.The European Commission has denied in the Brexit talks.

:29:16. > :29:17.It's claimed she appeared "anxious" during a dinner

:29:18. > :29:21.with the Commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, last week.

:29:22. > :29:24.Drivers of older, more polluting vehicles,

:29:25. > :29:28.will have to pay an extra ten pounds to drive in central London.