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:00:00. > :00:17.I want to know why you're selling stolen passports.

:00:18. > :00:24.So, how will it affect this year's students?

:00:25. > :00:30.They are learning practical skills of

:00:31. > :00:33.nursing in our hospital, that means that they are paid for the privilege

:00:34. > :00:42.And I promise we will meet the Muslims Scouts of

:00:43. > :00:46.We formed a Muslim Scout group because we are then able

:00:47. > :00:50.to cater for their religious and cultural needs.

:00:51. > :00:56.I'm Natalie Graham with untold stories closer to home

:00:57. > :01:18.Hello and welcome to the programme which this week comes

:01:19. > :01:25.First tonight, what you look for

:01:26. > :01:35.Well, Jonathan Gibson has been sniffing around here in

:01:36. > :01:37.Chatham as he investigates one online site where the criminals

:01:38. > :01:39.are looking for more than just a bargain.

:01:40. > :01:43.As an investigative journalist it's sometimes easier to work

:01:44. > :01:48.When people aren't watching what you're doing!

:01:49. > :01:56.If you're looking for something illegal it's the "go to"

:01:57. > :02:00.part of the internet that's hidden from prying eyes.

:02:01. > :02:02.The place where criminals use encrypted websites and virtual

:02:03. > :02:10.You don't need to bother with all that, mate?!

:02:11. > :02:19.Shouldn't you be getting on with the...

:02:20. > :02:39.It was set up in America by a guy called Craig.

:02:40. > :02:43.It's a website where people buy and sell

:02:44. > :02:50.Just say where you live and get started but lots of the stuff

:02:51. > :02:53.on Craigslist won't be in the buy and sell section of your local

:02:54. > :03:03.The kind of cigs you'd probably buy from some dodgy geezer outside

:03:04. > :03:05.a pub, or in this case a supermarket car park.

:03:06. > :03:09.So are they knocked off then or are they...

:03:10. > :03:14.No, no, no so they're old packaging but they can't resell

:03:15. > :03:28.he says his supplier's someone else on Craigslist!

:03:29. > :03:31.I've seen some crazy stuff on Craigslist.

:03:32. > :03:39.That's why I've come to another car park ready for another dodgy deal.

:03:40. > :03:46.And that's why his tobacco is just a third of the price

:03:47. > :04:00.But there is a difference because counterfeit goods are among

:04:01. > :04:03.the things Craigslist says you're not supposed to sell on its website.

:04:04. > :04:18.It's as easy to find marijuana on Craigslist,

:04:19. > :04:24.And you might need a seat because what I'm buying next

:04:25. > :04:29.I'm on a Derby estate to meet a dealer selling

:04:30. > :04:46.Turns out, as street cocaine goes, it's pretty pure stuff.

:04:47. > :04:53.I'm shocked, I'm shocked what's there because it's not difficult

:04:54. > :04:55.for the internet companies to put elements onto their websites

:04:56. > :05:02.and they should be policing it and taking it down.

:05:03. > :05:05.But if you have made money from crime you won't want

:05:06. > :05:10.So what you need is someone to hide it -

:05:11. > :05:18.But where would I find someone to do that?

:05:19. > :05:23.On a street corner, I'm meeting Stacey.

:05:24. > :05:25.She's offering her bank account on Craigslist to anyone

:05:26. > :05:31.So you know it's kind of dodgy money?

:05:32. > :05:39.But we are walking into the bank to pay in what I've told her

:05:40. > :05:44.She'll charge me a fee to get it back and there are plenty of people

:05:45. > :05:46.on Craigslist offering to do the same thing, sometimes

:05:47. > :05:51.But if you've sent your money overseas

:05:52. > :05:56.Well, what you need is a new identity, or

:05:57. > :06:01.And I know just the place you can get it!

:06:02. > :06:08.Craigslist, the place where I can find a

:06:09. > :06:26.And there are plenty more where that came from.

:06:27. > :06:29.I've known some stories where it's taken people

:06:30. > :06:35.back again after it's been completely trashed by people

:06:36. > :06:38.who have stolen their identities but it will allow them

:06:39. > :06:41.to get on and commit other crimes and that's why they're doing it.

:06:42. > :06:44.And it's not just about selling stuff.

:06:45. > :06:46.This advert's looking for postmen in the South East

:06:47. > :06:51.to steal the letters they're supposed to be delivering.

:06:52. > :06:53.It's bank cards, cheques, lots of different things.

:06:54. > :06:56.On Craigslist there's also disorganised crime.

:06:57. > :07:00.This guy wants someone to pass his driving theory test for him.

:07:01. > :07:04.So what's the deal, mate, I go in, take it.

:07:05. > :07:07.If you pass it I give you ?50 for it.

:07:08. > :07:10.But for fifty quid it's not that black and white ?

:07:11. > :07:29.for a start he's black and I'm white and someone's going to notice.

:07:30. > :07:31.When I later revealed I'm a journalist

:07:32. > :07:40.In fact when we asked it for an interview this

:07:41. > :07:50.I think whilst they're making money and nobody is asking them or forcing

:07:51. > :07:57.You'll find selling sites like this sticking their head

:07:58. > :08:04.No wonder criminals can carry on regardless

:08:05. > :08:07.? well, unless they're really selling to a journalist.

:08:08. > :08:21.I'd like to know, mate, why you're offering to sell.

:08:22. > :08:28.Yeah, oh, my God, my mother's going to kill me.

:08:29. > :08:31.But he's not the only one thinking about his relatives.

:08:32. > :08:35.I'm trying to make money for my family.

:08:36. > :08:39.Take a good look at my cocaine dealer

:08:40. > :08:45.The thing is I work for the BBC and we're trying to find out, mate,

:08:46. > :08:55.Well, he wasn't hanging about, was he?

:08:56. > :09:08.I'm trying to find out why you're willing to launder money for people?

:09:09. > :09:12.You knew it was risky because we just had that

:09:13. > :09:20.Just like my passport thief in Chatham.

:09:21. > :09:23.I'm not buying a passport off you because I work for the BBC.

:09:24. > :09:25.Why are you selling stolen passports, mate,

:09:26. > :09:30.Why are you selling stolen passports?

:09:31. > :09:41.Well, he wasn't hanging around was he?

:09:42. > :09:43.The amount of organised crime that is sitting behind

:09:44. > :09:45.everything you've shown there is frightening and it's

:09:46. > :09:48.critical I think that the police force or the law enforcement

:09:49. > :09:50.agencies force the likes of Craigslist to do

:09:51. > :10:10.When we asked to interview a minister all we got

:10:11. > :10:18.was a Home Office statement saying it's...

:10:19. > :10:20.Well, we've kind of done that for them already.

:10:21. > :10:24.So maybe it's time the government forced websites like Craigslist

:10:25. > :10:32.Coming up on Inside Out we meet the Muslim

:10:33. > :10:43.Big hearts, big arms, and it's about including

:10:44. > :10:45.people in the community from all sorts of different backgrounds

:10:46. > :10:54.To see so many Muslim scouts growing is wonderful.

:10:55. > :10:57.Now, this month new student nurses have been

:10:58. > :10:59.starting their courses but one thing's different this year.

:11:00. > :11:03.So, what difference will it make to the

:11:04. > :11:19.It's the start of a busy academic year at Canterbury Christ Church

:11:20. > :11:37.Until August this year many students on courses like nursing

:11:38. > :11:56.That was funded by the Department of Health.

:11:57. > :12:00.They didn't take out alone and they didn't have pay for their

:12:01. > :12:03.tuition but they were also allowed a small bursary to actually help

:12:04. > :12:20.We've come out as a body of junior doctors

:12:21. > :12:25.in favour of our nursing colleagues because we really see this as a time

:12:26. > :12:31.the NHS health care staff need to unite and stand together.

:12:32. > :12:38.Now, if you want to study nursing, midwifery

:12:39. > :12:40.or occupational therapy you're treated exactly like any

:12:41. > :12:47.You have to go through the same system of fees and loans

:12:48. > :12:49.as if you were studying English

:12:50. > :12:52.Recently we've seen some worrying headlines about staff shortages

:12:53. > :13:00.For the first time on record we've seen more nurses leaving

:13:01. > :13:02.the profession than joining and with the number nurses

:13:03. > :13:05.starting training down this autumn, The Royal College of Nursing

:13:06. > :13:09.says we should be helping and not hindering people who want to train.

:13:10. > :13:16.Student nurses spend at least 50% of their time in practice,

:13:17. > :13:19.so as part of their education they are learning the skills, practical

:13:20. > :13:23.skills of nursing in our hospitals, in our communities, our care homes

:13:24. > :13:30.That means that they are paying for the privilege of working in our NHS

:13:31. > :13:37.The average age of a student nurse is 29

:13:38. > :13:39.That means they are likely to have gained much more life

:13:40. > :13:45.experience before starting the course.

:13:46. > :13:48.About five or six years ago my dad became terminally ill.

:13:49. > :13:52.I've got some photos of me and my dad.

:13:53. > :13:55.That one is obviously me when I was a baby.

:13:56. > :14:00.That one's my dad when he took me on my first-ever holiday

:14:01. > :14:11.He decided it was a good idea to dress up as Minnie Mouse.

:14:12. > :14:15.This one here, me and my dad, I think it was

:14:16. > :14:18.I'm sure I was trained to pinch his beer.

:14:19. > :14:22.This one here is the last photo I have of him.

:14:23. > :14:25.Emily lost her father earlier this year after a long illness.

:14:26. > :14:27.My grandma woke up and found my dad on the sofa.

:14:28. > :14:29.He'd just been released from hospital on the Friday.

:14:30. > :14:45.While looking after him she discovered a hidden talent.

:14:46. > :14:50.Because of looking after my dad and everything that we

:14:51. > :14:53.went through with him I realised I was good at what I did and I was

:14:54. > :15:00.And I could relate to what they were going through.

:15:01. > :15:04.It made me realise that I wanted to be a nurse.

:15:05. > :15:07.Emily had dreams of starting on a nursing degree in Kent

:15:08. > :15:10.this Autumn, but says she doesn't want to be saddled with huge debts

:15:11. > :15:15.I found out that they were cutting these

:15:16. > :15:18.bursaries and it was going to be really hard for me to train to do

:15:19. > :15:22.that job and if I needed to, I would have to pay for it.

:15:23. > :15:24.And quickly realised I didn't have anybody who

:15:25. > :15:27.could help me do that and I couldn't afford to leave work to study.

:15:28. > :15:32.I don't live with family. I can't live with family.

:15:33. > :15:35.And I've got all my bills and everything that are associated

:15:36. > :15:44.So, today I can tell you that will increase the number of

:15:45. > :15:49.Earlier this month at the Conservative Party Conference.

:15:50. > :15:51.The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt stood by the Government's decision

:15:52. > :15:56.We are backing the biggest expansion of

:15:57. > :16:04.nurse training in the history of the NHS.

:16:05. > :16:08.The thinking behind these plans is to enable universities to create

:16:09. > :16:11.extra training places and to provide students with more financial support

:16:12. > :16:17.Well, we did ask the Department of Health for an interview.

:16:18. > :16:25.Our changes to student funding have allowed for the biggest

:16:26. > :16:28.increase in nurse degree places in the history of the NHS ? 15,000

:16:29. > :16:35.extra home-grown nurses will be training in the NHS by 2020.

:16:36. > :16:39.But the RCN says the Government hasn't thought about the students

:16:40. > :16:44.who don't want to take out a loan to cover the cost of their degree.

:16:45. > :16:47.We are not attracting those people in who don't

:16:48. > :16:52.And nursing is a very specific thing.

:16:53. > :16:54.It is a profession that you need to be

:16:55. > :16:58.It is not just about having the right grade of A-level.

:16:59. > :17:01.But the government has introduced alternative routes

:17:02. > :17:03.into the profession, such as Nursing Apprenticeships

:17:04. > :17:09.but the RCN says this is just a cost-cutting exercise.

:17:10. > :17:15.Whilst apprenticeships are another model and we got nothing against

:17:16. > :17:18.apprenticeships it is merely shifting the cost to the employers

:17:19. > :17:22.which is our hospitals and the rest of the NHS.

:17:23. > :17:25.In fact, there is an argument that the current method of

:17:26. > :17:30.training as a nurse is already an apprenticeship model.

:17:31. > :17:32.Canterbury Christ Church University is the biggest public service

:17:33. > :17:34.provider in the South East, they provide our local

:17:35. > :17:47.The actual amount of money available to

:17:48. > :17:50.students from September 17 is 25% extra over and above what the

:17:51. > :17:53.students will need from the NHS bursary scheme.

:17:54. > :17:55.So, we see this as a really positive way to support

:17:56. > :18:01.Though application numbers were down this year Debra

:18:02. > :18:08.This is reflecting what happened several years ago when fees

:18:09. > :18:11.were injured used for the wider student population.

:18:12. > :18:13.History tells is that, actually, over time we will actually

:18:14. > :18:19.In our university, we are planning to increase our

:18:20. > :18:21.student numbers over the next five years.

:18:22. > :18:25.So I'm feeling very positive about this going forward.

:18:26. > :18:30.Training nurses and other healthcare professionals takes time and money.

:18:31. > :18:34.With patient demand growing each year.

:18:35. > :18:39.They're resources the NHS doesn't have much of.

:18:40. > :18:43.So let's hope the new plans do work and people like Emily can find a way

:18:44. > :18:46.He's my driving force for wanting to be a

:18:47. > :19:11.They are known for their leather woggles, their bracing outdoor

:19:12. > :19:13.activities and for always being prepared.

:19:14. > :19:15.But one particular Scout group is unique in the south-east.

:19:16. > :19:22.Scouting is all about adventure, challenges and reaching new heights.

:19:23. > :19:28.But these are just any old Scouts, they are Muslim scouts and they are

:19:29. > :19:30.making history as the first and only Muslim Scout

:19:31. > :19:41.I like it because I get to learn new life skills.

:19:42. > :19:46.But how is a Muslim Scout group different from any other?

:19:47. > :19:48.The Scouting movement was set up over a hundred years ago by

:19:49. > :19:56.He was the son of an Anglican priest.

:19:57. > :20:01.At the time England was an overwhelmingly Christian country,

:20:02. > :20:03.so he designed the swearing in ceremony to pledge

:20:04. > :20:14.Obviously for this group it's going to be different.

:20:15. > :20:19.OK, today were going to invest Zara into the Misbah Scouts.

:20:20. > :20:22.Today Zara is being invested ? which is the technical term

:20:23. > :20:28.I, I promise to do my best, to my duty to Allah

:20:29. > :20:31.and to the country in which I live,...

:20:32. > :20:36.At the start of each meeting the children say a prayer to Allah

:20:37. > :20:44.OK, Mohammed, would you like to come and do the flag, please?

:20:45. > :20:52.I like raising the flag, it's just nice to raise a flag.

:20:53. > :20:55.I like coming to cubs cos you learn many new skills and there

:20:56. > :20:57.are thousands of badges you can accomplish.

:20:58. > :21:08.It's rite of passage that might not have been possible without this

:21:09. > :21:12.scout group and now Zara's in she doesn't want to leave.

:21:13. > :21:17.I like Cubs a lot and it makes me like I want to stay.

:21:18. > :21:24.He is the leader, but it's also helped realise

:21:25. > :21:30.His parents wouldn't let him join the scouts because they didn't

:21:31. > :21:37.The reason why I formed the Muslim Scouts was because the parents

:21:38. > :21:40.weren't aware of scouting, and I wanted the children to benefit

:21:41. > :21:44.from all the things scouting brings, so I formed it and we are then able

:21:45. > :21:47.to cater for their religious and their cultural needs,

:21:48. > :21:55.which a normal group might not be able to do.

:21:56. > :21:58.Of course, anyone of any faith is welcome to join this

:21:59. > :22:06.The children have been doing a nature badge it's a standard scout

:22:07. > :22:08.activity that also helps them learn about their faith.

:22:09. > :22:10.It tells the children we need to look after the environment,

:22:11. > :22:13.need to protect the wildlife and care for the earth

:22:14. > :22:17.and the resources and Islam tells us that we are custodians of this

:22:18. > :22:20.planet, it's not ours and we need to look after it,

:22:21. > :22:22.so there's that link back to Islam, but otherwise the activity

:22:23. > :22:27.is exactly the same as any other group would run.

:22:28. > :22:29.Shahid is a teacher and one of the proud parents

:22:30. > :22:35.He never got the chance to be in the Scouts.

:22:36. > :22:44.He didn't want his daughter Isa to miss out.

:22:45. > :22:47.Why do you think your parents were reluctant

:22:48. > :22:53.I think primarily they just didn't know anything about it.

:22:54. > :22:57.I think they felt it was perhaps something Muslims didn't do.

:22:58. > :23:02.So they didn't want to find out because they just

:23:03. > :23:06.had no real concept of what it was about.

:23:07. > :23:09.And Isa doesn't feel like she's missing out on anything.

:23:10. > :23:18.I like coming here because there are fun activities and you get

:23:19. > :23:33.Scouting is popular all over the world and getting young British

:23:34. > :23:36.Muslims involved was one of the key reasons this group was founded.

:23:37. > :23:39.And the core values of these scouts aren't really different to that

:23:40. > :24:00.They provide such a diverse range of skills.

:24:01. > :24:05.to emotional skills, creative skills, survival skills,

:24:06. > :24:07.communication skills, it gives them confidence

:24:08. > :24:14.and boosts their confidence and their self-esteem,

:24:15. > :24:16.and it pushes them out of their comfort zone.

:24:17. > :24:21.The scouts have been evolving to reflect modern-day Britain.

:24:22. > :24:24.Today as well as Muslim scouts there are Catholic scouts, Jewish

:24:25. > :24:33.Girls were only allowed to join in 1991.

:24:34. > :24:42.And since then it's become very popular with them.

:24:43. > :24:46.The group here pretty much mirrors scouting

:24:47. > :24:49.nationally ? there are seven girls who have joined the group

:24:50. > :24:53.In the UK, there are more girls joining the Scouts

:24:54. > :25:02.So what do our Muslim girl scouts get out of it?

:25:03. > :25:05.I like it because they come up with really fun ideas

:25:06. > :25:19.I've got 18 badges. It builds my confidence and I learn new things.

:25:20. > :25:21.Saliha Nazir Nazir is a young professional mum.

:25:22. > :25:23.Her two daughters come here, she says it's important to help them

:25:24. > :25:27.So what do your girls get out of coming here then?

:25:28. > :25:31.This group is an opportunity for the girls to break free

:25:32. > :25:37.of the stereotypes that the society imposes on them of being able to do

:25:38. > :25:44.certain things and not being able to do certain things.

:25:45. > :25:47.They can do all the things that the boys are doing

:25:48. > :25:49.and that the muslim community is supportive of that.

:25:50. > :25:51.This way they are able to feel confident

:25:52. > :26:13.and know that the world is their oyster.

:26:14. > :26:16.It's a big day on the scouting calendar.

:26:17. > :26:24.Scout groups from 35 countries around the world are meeting

:26:25. > :26:31.for their big, fun get together known as a jamboree and I'm

:26:32. > :26:33.about to meet perhaps the most famous scout of all ?

:26:34. > :26:51.We are worldwide family with big wide arms and hearts welcoming

:26:52. > :26:59.everybody in. It's what we're really proud of. To see so many Muslim

:27:00. > :27:03.Scout 's growing is wonderful. Here we have 35 different countries

:27:04. > :27:05.represented. All different backgrounds, race, and I love that.

:27:06. > :27:11.Where you from? From Wales. And while they are at the jamboree

:27:12. > :27:31.the children take part We tied the French -- friendship not

:27:32. > :27:43.and we are going to do that today. One at a time. How old are you? Ten.

:27:44. > :27:45.Soon it's time for the grand ceremony the welsh scouts are ready

:27:46. > :28:09.is about to become a fully-fledged Scout.

:28:10. > :28:22.You are an official member. She looking forward to exciting

:28:23. > :28:30.adventures ahead. Don't forget for more information about our region

:28:31. > :28:36.you can visit our Facebook page. This is what's coming up next week.

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:29:07. > :29:09.Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update.

:29:10. > :29:11.The European Commission has denied a report that Theresa May

:29:12. > :29:14."begged" the EU for help in the Brexit talks.