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:00:07. > :00:12.Hello and welcome to Inside Out South West. Stories where you live.

:00:12. > :00:16.Tonight, the housing benefit clampdown. Our constituents working

:00:16. > :00:19.hard to give benefits to people to live in homes they could not even

:00:19. > :00:24.dream of. I don't think that's fair. We investigate the impact in the

:00:24. > :00:28.south-west. I don't know where I'm going to end up. I don't know if

:00:28. > :00:31.I'm going to have to be living with people. The more you think about it

:00:31. > :00:34.the more you're like, oh my goodness. Also tonight, celebrating

:00:34. > :00:40.the story and the glory of Mary Rand, the South West's first

:00:40. > :00:50.Olympic golden girl. When I see it now, I can't quite believe I jumped

:00:50. > :01:00.that far. And home is where the heart is.

:01:00. > :01:00.

:01:00. > :01:03.the moment, I've got Chris, Nathan, Megan. Who else? Simon, Dougie.

:01:03. > :01:06.Cornish woman who's thrown open her house to the young and homeless.

:01:06. > :01:09.Once they get that self-worth about themselves, that someone actually

:01:09. > :01:13.genuinely cares about them, you can see the change in them in a matter

:01:13. > :01:23.of days. I'm Sam Smith and this is Inside

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:01:35. > :01:38.Housing benefit costs taxpayers �20 billion a year. It's a bill the

:01:38. > :01:40.Government says is excessive and that it is determined to cut.

:01:40. > :01:45.Campaigners say that policy could lead to more homelessness and

:01:45. > :01:53.knock-on costs. We've been investigating the impact in the

:01:53. > :01:56.south-west of the latest benefit clampdown.

:01:56. > :02:01.Two year-old Honey lives with her mum and dad in an Axminster flat

:02:01. > :02:06.paid for by housing benefit. But Alexa and Graham, who are both

:02:06. > :02:11.unemployed, are splitting up. Honey is going to live mostly with her

:02:11. > :02:14.dad and Alexa's moving out but she doesn't want to downsize. Basically,

:02:14. > :02:20.I want to find a two-bedroom property where I can settle and be

:02:20. > :02:24.happy. Also, for Honey as well, because it's bad enough me and

:02:24. > :02:28.Graham separating and having to go to and fro between the houses, so I

:02:29. > :02:33.want to find somewhere comfortable. Is there much accommodation

:02:33. > :02:36.available around here? Not around here, no. It just seems to be a

:02:36. > :02:41.very expensive place to live and a lot of the properties around here

:02:41. > :02:47.seem to be second homes for people that do have money. Generally, 80%

:02:47. > :02:52.of the year they're just locked up. A local shortage of rentals isn't

:02:52. > :02:55.Alexa's only problem. Under new rules, the amount of housing

:02:55. > :03:02.benefit she can get is restricted because she's under 35 and she

:03:02. > :03:07.won't be classed as her daughter's main carer. Are you worried? I am

:03:07. > :03:12.extremely worried to be honest. don't know where things are going.

:03:12. > :03:15.I don't know where I'm going to end up. I don't know if I'm going to

:03:15. > :03:19.have to be living with people. The more you think about it, the more

:03:19. > :03:24.you're like, oh my goodness. It's just not straightforward. But the

:03:24. > :03:27.Government says some people on benefits have had it too good.

:03:27. > :03:33.The point everyone in this House has got to consider, are we happy

:03:33. > :03:36.to go on paying housing benefit of �30,000, �40,000, �50,000? Our

:03:36. > :03:45.constituents working hard to give benefits so that people can live in

:03:45. > :03:49.homes they couldn't even dream of? I don't think that's fair. Last

:03:49. > :03:52.year, housing benefit rates for private tenants generally were cut.

:03:52. > :04:02.In January, the under-35 rule came in, affecting just over 3,000

:04:02. > :04:02.

:04:02. > :04:07.claimants in the south-west. This is the largest of the rooms.

:04:07. > :04:17.Claimants like unemployed Sean and John. Here you can see the gas and

:04:17. > :04:20.

:04:20. > :04:23.central heating. They're each hoping to rent a room in this

:04:23. > :04:27.Plymouth house. The landlord has stated if you are unable to get a

:04:27. > :04:30.bed, he will supply a bed. rooms are smart and at �70 a week,

:04:30. > :04:35.there's been a lot of interest. You've got everything you need in

:04:35. > :04:38.here, gas central heating, table and chairs, fridge-freezer. I've

:04:38. > :04:43.been looking for about four months now so 30 places, half of the

:04:43. > :04:50.places you would not put a dog in. I am living with my parents. I'm on

:04:50. > :04:53.the sofa. It's inconvenient for everybody. Until the under-35 rule

:04:53. > :05:00.came in, Sean and John could have claimed enough for a one-bedroom

:05:00. > :05:04.flat. Now, a bedsit's all they are going to be funded for. They both

:05:04. > :05:09.have young daughters so visits could be a problem. Where do you

:05:10. > :05:13.put a child in a shared room? Exactly. I would love to have her

:05:13. > :05:17.overnight and be able to take her out in the mornings and stuff but

:05:17. > :05:21.it's just not possible at the moment. That puts a strain on our

:05:21. > :05:29.bond because I don't get to spend as much time as I want to. It's

:05:29. > :05:33.just, yeah. Back in Axminster, Alexa will face

:05:33. > :05:37.the same problem, if that is she can find a landlord who will have

:05:37. > :05:44.her. A quick internet search reveals none of the handful of

:05:44. > :05:47.local bedsits she could afford takes people on benefits. That's a

:05:47. > :05:53.problem Inside Out highlighted when the first cuts were announced back

:05:53. > :06:02.in 2010. Most of the letting agents we contacted then didn't deal with

:06:02. > :06:07.claimants, leaving them with limited choice. Anything else?

:06:07. > :06:10.the moment, no. That's all we've got at the moment. That's it?

:06:10. > :06:13.two bedrooms. We've got a couple of one-bedroom properties but not

:06:13. > :06:18.three bedrooms at the moment. actually haven't got anything?

:06:18. > :06:22.at the moment, no, that will accept housing benefit. Ian Maitland says

:06:22. > :06:25.the situation for claimants is even tougher now. He's a landlord and

:06:25. > :06:30.the director of an agency in Plymouth that helps tenants by

:06:30. > :06:33.guaranteeing their deposits. In the City of Plymouth, there's probably

:06:33. > :06:38.no more than two or three letting agents who will even consider

:06:38. > :06:42.people on benefits. You've got to remember that landlords are

:06:42. > :06:45.businessmen. They want full rooms, they want no voids and if they can

:06:45. > :06:50.get good tenants to pay rent and not cause any problems, they will

:06:50. > :06:53.keep them there and keep them there forever. I've got housing benefit

:06:53. > :06:58.claimants who have been with me for 19 years. Clearly obviously very

:06:58. > :07:01.good tenants. Very good tenants. Lot of housing benefit claimants

:07:01. > :07:10.are very good tenants. It's the minority who aren't who a landlord

:07:10. > :07:13.can't afford to take the risk. what of rent levels? One aim of the

:07:13. > :07:20.cuts was to encourage landlords to bring them down, an aim met

:07:20. > :07:23.according to the Prime Minister. What we've seen so far as housing

:07:23. > :07:28.benefit has been reformed and reduced, is actually we have seen

:07:28. > :07:33.rent levels come down, so we have stopped ripping off the taxpayer.

:07:33. > :07:38.Ian Maitland in Plymouth is not so sure. Landlords who had tenants who

:07:38. > :07:44.were on benefits did reduce their rents. That was 18 months ago and

:07:45. > :07:47.the levels have almost crept up to where they were. If I was looking

:07:48. > :07:55.with a businessman's head on, I would be out there looking for

:07:55. > :08:02.bargains, to buy up houses and turn them into shared houses. If I was

:08:02. > :08:09.on the homeless list, I would be very, very worried. Because there

:08:09. > :08:12.is a shortage now and the shortage is going to grow.

:08:13. > :08:18.Back in east Devon, Alexa has finally found a flat that will

:08:18. > :08:23.consider claimants. Here we are, the kitchen, electric oven...

:08:23. > :08:25.agent says rents here have not budged either. We have not seen a

:08:25. > :08:35.huge difference at all. Rental properties, the rental price has

:08:35. > :08:40.

:08:40. > :08:46.stayed the same across the board. Properties that come through may

:08:46. > :08:50.already be out of their price range. Some landlords are also not keen to

:08:50. > :08:52.have people on benefits in their properties. But Alexa's hoping she

:08:52. > :09:00.can afford this place. The government's given councils extra

:09:00. > :09:05.money to help in special cases. Alexa's eligible. But will her

:09:05. > :09:09.budget of �425 be enough? Unfortunately, this property is

:09:09. > :09:13.�475 per calendar month. There's no chance that they will put it down?

:09:13. > :09:19.It's not long been on the market. We can ask the landlord but I don't

:09:19. > :09:23.think they would be moving down to 425.

:09:23. > :09:28.For Alexa, it's a real blow. would have been perfect for Honey

:09:28. > :09:33.and me but again, it's out of the price range I've been given. What

:09:33. > :09:37.are your options? That's it, I don't know. I'll just have to keep

:09:37. > :09:41.looking. Alexa may have to move away from Axminster and her

:09:41. > :09:45.daughter. Do you understand why the

:09:45. > :09:55.Government wants to cut the benefit bill? I just want what's best for

:09:55. > :10:00.

:10:00. > :10:03.my daughter. I just see it as I see it as up rooting her. It's

:10:03. > :10:05.really getting me down, to be honest. Alexa certainly isn't

:10:05. > :10:15.applauding the benefit cuts. But the Government seems certain they

:10:15. > :10:21.

:10:21. > :10:23.will discover savings and taxpayer Now, with the Olympics just months

:10:23. > :10:27.away, we are celebrating the achievements of Britain's first

:10:27. > :10:30.track-and-field golden girl. Mary Rand's talent took her all the way

:10:30. > :10:36.from Somerset to glory at the Tokyo Games, as Alastair Mackie has been

:10:36. > :10:39.finding out. At the Town Hall in Wells, the city

:10:39. > :10:42.council is gathering for a special meeting. On the agenda, a proposal

:10:42. > :10:49.sent in by a local campaigner to honour one of Somerset's most

:10:49. > :10:53.famous daughters, Mary Rand. it's Olympic year this year, I

:10:53. > :10:56.thought it was about time Mary was awarded the freedom of the City of

:10:56. > :11:02.Wells. The torch is coming through Wells as well and what a fantastic

:11:02. > :11:07.time and occasion to remember one of our Olympians. I'm keen to find

:11:07. > :11:12.out more about Mary Rand. She's had roads named after her. Even a set

:11:12. > :11:16.of gates. Now looking a bit the worse for wear. But the biggest

:11:16. > :11:24.clue is right under your feet in the city's Market Square. It's a

:11:24. > :11:31.plaque. A really, really long one. It commemorates both a world record

:11:31. > :11:37.and an Olympic gold. It was 1964 in Tokyo, Japan. What a beautiful jump,

:11:37. > :11:40.a new world record and the Olympic title for Britain's Mary Rand!

:11:40. > :11:47.didn't stop there. She went on to win silver in the pentathlon and

:11:47. > :11:53.bronze in the sprint relay. As the years have gone by, the memories of

:11:53. > :11:57.that exciting day and her stunning achievements have faded. So

:11:57. > :12:04.whatever happened to Mary Rand? To find out, I've come across the

:12:04. > :12:07.Atlantic to California. Mary moved to America more than 40 years ago

:12:07. > :12:12.and she now lives in a city called Atascadero on the Pacific Coast

:12:12. > :12:16.road between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Now in her early 70s,

:12:16. > :12:22.she leads a gentle and relaxed lifestyle, a far cry from her heady

:12:22. > :12:28.days on the athletics track. I asked her about her memories of

:12:28. > :12:32.growing up in Wells. We had a great childhood. We used

:12:33. > :12:39.to go hiking and we'd be out all day. I knew everybody and everybody

:12:39. > :12:43.knew me. I don't know if that was a good thing but I really did have a

:12:43. > :12:46.great childhood and that's where it all began. I used to go to the

:12:46. > :12:53.local fete and they used to have a little race around the orchard and

:12:53. > :12:56.I remember running around the orchard and beating all the boys.

:12:56. > :12:59.She excelled in athletics at secondary school. Then, the life of

:12:59. > :13:06.the daughter of the local chimney sweep was to change forever with a

:13:06. > :13:09.sports scholarship to the exclusive Millfield School in Somerset. There

:13:09. > :13:13.was a man at Millfield called John Bromfield and he was like a

:13:13. > :13:17.sergeant-major of our times. He was a wonderful guy. He really had a

:13:17. > :13:21.lot of faith in me and I started to get an invitation for an

:13:21. > :13:26.international meet. I will be forever grateful to Millfield. I

:13:26. > :13:31.understand you got expelled? Well, they always say I was expelled. I

:13:31. > :13:36.wasn't actually expelled. I had a boyfriend who was from Thailand.

:13:36. > :13:46.His parents wanted me to go to France to meet them. I had a

:13:46. > :13:47.

:13:47. > :13:50.telephone call saying if you leave the country, you cannot come back.

:13:50. > :13:53.It didn't say you'd be expelled, but you're not coming back. My

:13:53. > :14:03.father spoke to the headmaster and said, "If this is the case, she

:14:03. > :14:04.

:14:04. > :14:08.won't be coming back." So you weren't a wild child back then?

:14:08. > :14:12.Well, what do you mean by a wild child? I was just normal. My life

:14:12. > :14:16.was consumed with athletics, really. What happened in Rome in 1960? You

:14:16. > :14:20.went there as favourite in the long jump? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. When

:14:20. > :14:24.I think back to that night, nerves must have been playing into it a

:14:24. > :14:27.little bit. I just started having a lot of trouble. When you're in an

:14:27. > :14:31.event like the Olympics, you're on your own. You've had all that

:14:31. > :14:35.training and help and you've got to be able to do it. I did learn

:14:35. > :14:38.something from it but it was a disappointing Olympics.

:14:38. > :14:41.Despite the temptation to quit, and now newly-wed with her first child,

:14:41. > :14:48.she put failure behind her and trained hard for the next Olympics

:14:48. > :14:53.in Tokyo, where she would triumph. Talk me through your world record

:14:53. > :14:59.jump. What went through your mind? You're so nervous so you've got to

:14:59. > :15:03.try to get your mind set and block everything out. It was on my fifth

:15:03. > :15:09.jump that I did the world record. beautiful job, she really sailed

:15:09. > :15:13.there. You can see that, she must be in front of the world record.

:15:13. > :15:16.You can see the world record mark there. It looked to me like the

:15:16. > :15:20.first 22 footer by a woman, Mary Rand. And here she is in slow

:15:20. > :15:25.motion. It's a new world record - 22 feet, two and a quarter inches.

:15:26. > :15:29.A new world record and an Olympic title for Britain's Mary Rand.

:15:29. > :15:34.They called out 6.76 and I thought, I didn't know what it was, because

:15:34. > :15:39.it was in metres and we weren't into metres then. But it was an

:15:39. > :15:42.incredible moment. What's it like being on the middle step of the

:15:42. > :15:45.podium? I remember standing up there and I really wanted to jump

:15:45. > :15:48.up and down and yell and scream but I didn't. I was very composed,

:15:48. > :15:53.really. What was the reception like in Wells? Unbelievable.

:15:53. > :15:57.Unbelievable. I couldn't quite believe it when I got back there,

:15:57. > :16:00.and I went back to visit my mum and dad and they had this huge Rolls-

:16:00. > :16:06.Royce. They had a marching band and there were people everywhere lined

:16:06. > :16:15.in the street. It was so neat to look out and see all those people

:16:15. > :16:18.you had grown up with and you knew and to see how thrilled they were.

:16:18. > :16:23.That was spectacular because we were all out there to greet her and

:16:23. > :16:27.see her and it was a success for all of us. It was our town and our

:16:27. > :16:33.street. It was a fantastic day and I was very proud and honoured to be

:16:33. > :16:35.leading the procession carrying a mock-up of the Olympic torch.

:16:35. > :16:39.was particularly special because that's what I was born, that's

:16:39. > :16:43.where I grew up. To be proud of what you'd done and to be able to

:16:43. > :16:46.share it with them, I guess. Even more accolades followed. She was

:16:46. > :16:54.voted BBC Sports Personality of the Year in 1964, followed by an MBE in

:16:54. > :16:57.the New Year's Honours. But what does Mary think about this latest

:16:57. > :17:04.honour which is being discussed, of whether or not to give her the

:17:04. > :17:09.freedom of the City of Wells? feel it is a long time. If you ask

:17:09. > :17:12.any young person today, they won't know who I was. If you ask someone

:17:12. > :17:20.around my age, there is a possibility they might remember. I

:17:20. > :17:23.totally understand and I don't expect to be made a fuss of, really.

:17:23. > :17:27.More than 5,000 miles away back in Somerset, Wells City councillors

:17:27. > :17:33.have been debating behind closed doors for more than an hour. It

:17:33. > :17:36.looks like they've finally made their decision. I am pleased to

:17:36. > :17:40.announce that Wells City Council has decided to award Mary Bignal

:17:40. > :17:46.Rand the Honorary Freedom of the City of Wells.

:17:46. > :17:49.Tony can't wait to tell Mary the good news. Hello. Hello, Mary. I'm

:17:49. > :17:53.outside the town hall at Wells and have got some excellent news. You

:17:53. > :17:57.have been granted the freedom of the city. I have been granted the

:17:57. > :18:01.freedom of the city? You have been granted the freedom of the city.

:18:01. > :18:05.That's fantastic, Tony. You've worked so hard. I am a little bit

:18:05. > :18:08.emotional at the moment. Thank you and just tell everybody I'm over

:18:08. > :18:14.the moon and I'm really, really delighted. Well done, Mary, that's

:18:15. > :18:22.absolutely superb. I can't believe it. I can't believe it, thank you.

:18:22. > :18:28.Well done, my love. Bye bye. Speak to you later. Congratulations, Mary.

:18:28. > :18:32.That's wonderful. Thank you. How do you feel? Thrilled. I can't believe

:18:32. > :18:35.it. I didn't expect anything like this but it's a great honour.

:18:35. > :18:38.That's where it all started so I'm really thrilled to bits. I think

:18:38. > :18:41.it's absolutely fantastic and I have to thank the Council for

:18:41. > :18:45.giving me the freedom of the city. This is going to be absolutely

:18:45. > :18:48.superb, an Olympic year. What could be better? The people of Wells will

:18:48. > :18:53.now start planning the historic ceremony in which Mary will receive

:18:53. > :18:59.the city's highest honour. They'll be preparing to celebrate another

:18:59. > :19:09.welcome home for the golden girl who leapt into the record books.

:19:09. > :19:12.

:19:12. > :19:15.When I see it now, I can quite Next tonight, the story of a woman

:19:15. > :19:20.who's helping troubled young people in Cornwall in the most remarkable

:19:20. > :19:30.way. As Carole Madge found out, she has opened up not just her home but

:19:30. > :19:33.

:19:33. > :19:43.her heart. What's for lunch? Spaghetti bolognese. Quick, cheap

:19:43. > :19:43.

:19:43. > :19:48.and easy. Helps you when you feeding the 5,000.

:19:48. > :19:50.This is a normal day in Julie's lifestyle. Everybody's in and out

:19:50. > :19:58.and everybody's doing certain things. At the moment, we've got

:19:58. > :20:08.Calum, Chris, Nathan, Megan. Who else? Simon, Dougie, and Rodney.

:20:08. > :20:10.

:20:10. > :20:18.And the baby here! Spaghetti bolognese turns into lasagne for 13.

:20:18. > :20:22.Thank you, Julie. Looks lovely. Julie tries not to turn anyone away.

:20:22. > :20:30.Some are just out of prison, others are alcoholics and drug users.

:20:30. > :20:33.People say that I'm wasting my own life for them or on them. I don't

:20:33. > :20:41.see it as wasting, I see it as helping and supporting. If it

:20:41. > :20:46.wasn't for me, I don't know where they'd be actually. What's it like?

:20:46. > :20:53.It's lovely. Really nice. Dougie is the latest arrival. He's battling

:20:53. > :20:56.with drug addiction and has been in and out of prison. Royalty, innit?

:20:56. > :21:05.Compared to what it was. Living in a caravan with no food at all, or

:21:05. > :21:08.relying on homeless shelters to eat. A lot better. That there is all

:21:08. > :21:18.I've got to my name. All my stuff for fishing and cutting cauliflower,

:21:18. > :21:18.

:21:18. > :21:21.working on the land and that. Dougie has four children and with

:21:21. > :21:28.Julie's help he wants to see his family again and come off the

:21:28. > :21:32.heroin substitute, methadone. takes a strong person to come off

:21:32. > :21:35.it and to be honest with you, if you haven't got any help, you're

:21:35. > :21:43.not going to come off it because you're not going to want to come

:21:43. > :21:47.off the heroin and be stuck with nothing. But to see his children

:21:47. > :21:57.again, he has to go through the courts. Would you like to get back

:21:57. > :21:57.

:21:57. > :22:02.together with your children? kill to, yeah. Julie thinks that

:22:02. > :22:04.just a short time here can make a difference. Once they get that self

:22:04. > :22:08.worth about themselves and think that somebody actually genuinely

:22:08. > :22:11.cares about them, you can see a change in a matter of days when

:22:11. > :22:19.they come through the door from being on the streets to coming into

:22:19. > :22:22.the house. This is Uncle Simon. Simon has been

:22:22. > :22:26.living with Julie since coming of prison in the summer. She's a right

:22:26. > :22:33.little cutie. When Simon came here, obviously he was homeless. He was

:22:34. > :22:38.actually a very distressed lad and very mentally broken down, actually.

:22:38. > :22:43.He came to me in a real bad state. I just started hanging around with

:22:43. > :22:47.the wrong people and doing the wrong sort of things. Started doing

:22:47. > :22:50.drugs, started doing loads of crime. In and out of jail, that sort of

:22:50. > :23:00.thing. I just had no interest in anything at all except for the

:23:00. > :23:01.

:23:01. > :23:07.drugs, to be honest. I don't need it. Try to sort out the washing. I

:23:07. > :23:11.could do with my own launderette actually. We'll take it in turns

:23:11. > :23:16.for just juggling all the washing around. Although she charges rent,

:23:16. > :23:25.it doesn't cover Julie's costs. Who's going for haircuts? Carol,

:23:25. > :23:29.Daniel and Simon. We'll grab our toast and then we'll go down.

:23:29. > :23:32.At the end of the day, I am saving the state a lot of money from

:23:33. > :23:40.paying for them in prison. I get �65 for a shared room from the lads

:23:40. > :23:45.which people think, nine or ten, that's a lot of money. But not when

:23:45. > :23:51.they come with nothing whatsoever. I'm not dealing with children, I am

:23:51. > :23:56.dealing with adults with big feet. With a lot of money that needs to

:23:56. > :24:03.be found. The local barber helps out with cut-price haircuts. A

:24:03. > :24:10.proper trim is a luxury. To make a life for themselves, the lads need

:24:10. > :24:13.work. And they need to stay out of trouble. I've had things obviously

:24:13. > :24:16.being pinched because obviously I'm dealing with criminals. I've seen

:24:17. > :24:26.something down the road is being sold, a couple of CDs or this or

:24:26. > :24:33.that gone. I've had situations where my car's disappeared. To me,

:24:33. > :24:40.if you just chuck them out, you're not gaining anything, I don't think.

:24:40. > :24:50.Over the past months, weeks, years, I could have chucked them all out.

:24:50. > :24:58.

:24:58. > :25:08.You're not solving the problem. Tonight, it's a rare treat for the

:25:08. > :25:08.

:25:08. > :25:12.lads. A night out at a local curry house. Right, guys. Food is ready.

:25:12. > :25:17.It's the first time some of them have been out to a restaurant. The

:25:17. > :25:21.owner does his bit to support Julie by treating them all to a free meal.

:25:21. > :25:26.In turn, the lads help out in the kitchen. Tonight, it's Dougie's

:25:26. > :25:31.turn. It's early days because everything else I've ever done I've

:25:31. > :25:35.always mucked up. I don't want to relax and go back on heroin and

:25:35. > :25:45.other things so really, my only option was to get myself sorted out

:25:45. > :25:47.

:25:47. > :25:51.or back to prison. -- relapse. Julie's plan is to set up a halfway

:25:51. > :25:56.house. She thinks some of the lads are ready to move on and she needs

:25:56. > :26:00.the space. I'm in the caravan tonight. I'll be making sure that

:26:00. > :26:05.all the lads are fine and OK in the house and then I'm on the drive in

:26:05. > :26:09.the caravan. There's nine in the house tonight so Julie's given up

:26:09. > :26:13.her bed. If they need me, they come out to me or use the house phone to

:26:13. > :26:21.phone me to tell me to come back in. For Julie, it's a sacrifice worth

:26:21. > :26:24.making if it keeps the lads off the streets and out of trouble. When

:26:24. > :26:27.they're sat in the dock and you're sat in the court yourself, and

:26:27. > :26:35.seeing them sentenced and taken away, people don't understand what

:26:35. > :26:38.it means. They don't understand why it means so much to me. I have my

:26:38. > :26:41.moments, my tearful moments, but I try to keep that to myself a bit.

:26:41. > :26:51.Because obviously, I don't want the lads to feel unstable, really. If

:26:51. > :26:52.

:26:52. > :26:55.I'm unstable, they become unstable, so I can't be unstable.

:26:55. > :26:58.It's a month on and there's a real breakthrough for Simon. He's been

:26:58. > :27:06.given a chance to fulfil a lifetime's ambition. Do the water,

:27:06. > :27:11.do the hay bale. Do it as neat as yesterday because that was awesome.

:27:11. > :27:14.He's got work experience at a local stables. Since 2006, I've been in

:27:14. > :27:24.and out of jail six or seven times. I can't be bothered with it. It's

:27:24. > :27:25.

:27:25. > :27:28.no life really. The mentality I used to have was not good at all. I

:27:28. > :27:31.didn't feel good about myself or the things I was doing. The guilt I

:27:31. > :27:34.was feeling inside was just eating me alive. I've got so much

:27:34. > :27:44.determination and drive to carry on as I am and things are really

:27:44. > :27:55.

:27:55. > :27:58.starting to improve and I'm a lot That's all from this week's Inside

:27:58. > :28:00.Out but we're back next Monday with more stories from the south-west.

:28:00. > :28:04.We'll be in the picturesque Somerset village of East Coker as

:28:04. > :28:07.battle lines are drawn in a fierce planning row. I just couldn't

:28:07. > :28:13.believe it, the scale of it. This school and the industrial and this

:28:13. > :28:19.beautiful field with houses everywhere.

:28:19. > :28:22.The story of two men, one house and a High Court battle. He's got