:00:02. > :00:12.Hello and welcome to Inside Out South West, stories and
:00:12. > :00:19.
:00:19. > :00:22.investigations from where you live. Tonight, the South West on the
:00:22. > :00:26.slide. We head skyward to see why extreme weather is threatening the
:00:26. > :00:32.nation's most popular trail. It's probably going to get worse. It's
:00:32. > :00:37.certainly not going to get much better. Also tonight: Six floods in
:00:37. > :00:40.a year. We could wait till 2014 and then be told we're back to square
:00:40. > :00:43.one. The Devon villages who see their flood insurance going down
:00:43. > :00:46.the drain. The village isn't viable if you can't get insurance.
:00:46. > :00:49.concerns that the region's air ambulances could be under threat
:00:49. > :00:53.from a new national service. funds for the local air ambulance
:00:53. > :01:03.are diminished, people could die. I'm Sam Smith and this is Inside
:01:03. > :01:11.
:01:11. > :01:14.You won't need reminding that last year was the second wettest on
:01:14. > :01:20.record, and the results have been dramatic for the people and
:01:21. > :01:28.landscape around us. We've been assessing the impact, starting with
:01:28. > :01:31.one of the South West's greatest national assets.
:01:31. > :01:41.At 630 miles, the South West coast path is Britain's longest National
:01:41. > :01:42.
:01:42. > :01:46.Trail, and its most popular. Wear and tear is a given. Millions tread
:01:46. > :01:56.this path every year. But now the route is under an unprecedented
:01:56. > :01:59.From the weather. There have been 21 serious landslips in the last
:01:59. > :02:09.six weeks, compared with just 11 in the whole of the past five years,
:02:09. > :02:15.
:02:15. > :02:22.The coastline, like here in Dorset in December, is on the move. And
:02:22. > :02:27.nowhere more so than in the South. This is where most of the recent
:02:27. > :02:29.landslips have been. So how bad is it, and is there worse to come? We
:02:29. > :02:39.sent geographer Dr Matt Telfer from the University of Plymouth to
:02:39. > :02:43.assess the damage from the air. First stop, Talland Bay, west of
:02:43. > :02:47.Looe in Cornwall. Dr Telfer's looking for the tell tale scars
:02:48. > :02:54.where the path lies newly buried under soil and rock. He soon finds
:02:54. > :02:57.them. There are at least two or three,
:02:57. > :03:01.maybe four recent scars down along there, so in this case, it's not
:03:01. > :03:05.just a single failure that we're looking at. There's a scar that's
:03:05. > :03:08.taken out the path that's relatively high up on the slope.
:03:08. > :03:11.What's failing and been brought down across the coast path here is
:03:11. > :03:18.the much more recent, the much younger geological material, which
:03:18. > :03:20.is referred to as "head". It's got big boulders in it, it's got big,
:03:20. > :03:24.fine material in it. It's a real jumble of material.
:03:24. > :03:28.And it's the rain that's to blame, the force of all that water in the
:03:28. > :03:31.ground pushing the land's surface layers apart.
:03:31. > :03:35.As the water saturates the sediment and the rock around here, it
:03:35. > :03:42.increases the pressure in the water in the pores in the rock, and
:03:42. > :03:45.effectively, the sediment, the rock becomes buoyant and slides off.
:03:45. > :03:55.We continue east towards Plymouth, and just past Looe discover a
:03:55. > :03:56.
:03:56. > :03:59.dramatic indication that things We've got a whole series of trees
:03:59. > :04:03.being tilted in the centre down there, and that's one of the
:04:03. > :04:08.classic early warning signs that a failure is about to happen or is in
:04:08. > :04:15.the process of happening. Further on to Seaton, and more
:04:15. > :04:25.evidence that the coast is crumbling. Properties close to this
:04:25. > :04:28.
:04:28. > :04:34.failing slope have had a close call. At Portwrinkle, Dr Telfer spots
:04:34. > :04:38.another sign of trouble in the car park.
:04:38. > :04:41.We have tension cracks opening up, running right though. The fact that
:04:41. > :04:44.it's tarmaced or not makes no difference. But we have to
:04:44. > :04:53.recognize that these are dynamic environments. They always have been,
:04:53. > :04:56.they always will be, and this Over in south Devon, some parts of
:04:56. > :05:04.the coastline aren't so much evolving as dissolving, causing a
:05:04. > :05:10.problem for Robin Toogood. He looks after the coast path for South Hams
:05:10. > :05:16.District Council. At Lannacombe, part of the route has collapsed.
:05:16. > :05:20.It's caused a diversion of more than two miles inland.
:05:20. > :05:24.Sometimes when you get a coast path fall, if it's in a field or
:05:24. > :05:30.something like that, you just walk around it and it's not a problem.
:05:30. > :05:33.There's an instant solution. But in a situation like here, where the
:05:33. > :05:37.cliff falls and you're up against somebody's garden wall or a house
:05:37. > :05:43.or something like that, it becomes much more complicated. You can't
:05:43. > :05:48.just end up putting a path through somebody's garden. In legal terms,
:05:48. > :05:52.it's very straightforward. You've got a public right of way, it falls
:05:52. > :05:55.into the sea, the public right of way disappears along with it. So to
:05:55. > :05:57.find a new route for the path further inland, involves legal
:05:57. > :06:01.diversion orders, creation agreements, all sorts of paperwork,
:06:01. > :06:10.and I think what we want to do is make sure we move through all that
:06:10. > :06:13.bureaucratic side of it as quickly as possible.
:06:13. > :06:18.Today, Robin's meeting the local landowners who hold the key to the
:06:18. > :06:22.re-routing of this stretch. It's the start of what could be a long
:06:22. > :06:27.negotiation. It's hoped the new route will cross Anthony Vale's
:06:27. > :06:33.smallholding. Well, you can't go across the beach
:06:33. > :06:37.unless the tide's out. It's an important recreational route. So
:06:37. > :06:39.we're going to do our bit, working with Robin at South Hams and Devon
:06:39. > :06:41.County Council, write away to people, adjoining landowners, the
:06:41. > :06:49.National Trust, who are my neighbours, and we will achieve
:06:49. > :06:53.some continuity of the South West coastal foot path. But it can't be
:06:53. > :06:56.done in five minutes. We've got to think about it very carefully.
:06:56. > :07:02.Even with Mr Vale's goodwill, the diversion here could be in place
:07:02. > :07:04.for months. Regardless of all that land
:07:04. > :07:09.ownership and the legal side, you've just got the physical
:07:09. > :07:13.practicalities. You may have to cut a route through a load of scrub and
:07:13. > :07:17.bushes. OK, you can't do that in the bird nesting season, you can
:07:17. > :07:22.only do it at particular times of year. The ground might still be
:07:22. > :07:30.unstable. There's all these other factors and it adds up to a lot of
:07:30. > :07:35.money and a lot of work. Back in the air and Dr Telfer is at
:07:35. > :07:38.Whitsand Bay. These slopes were formed by an ancient landslip which
:07:38. > :07:48.is again on the move. Cracks threaten the chalets below as well
:07:48. > :07:49.
:07:49. > :07:54.as the coast path above This illustrates beautifully the
:07:54. > :07:58.dilemma that we have in that we love being able to work and visit
:07:58. > :08:04.these beautiful locations. But we have to bear in mind that we have
:08:04. > :08:08.got widespread evidence of a cliff failure Armonk this section here,
:08:09. > :08:18.and it is going to keep on occurring. -- amongst this section
:08:19. > :08:19.
:08:19. > :08:22.here. So why has this winter seen the
:08:22. > :08:24.biggest number of landslips in recent memory? Could it have
:08:24. > :08:28.something to do with the drought of last winter?
:08:28. > :08:31.The change from the very dry early part of the year to the very, very
:08:31. > :08:33.wet part of the year may have opened up cracks which, when we
:08:33. > :08:36.saturate the landscape again, act as points of weakness.
:08:36. > :08:39.But it's not just the geology that's under pressure. Cracks have
:08:39. > :08:41.appeared too in the path's finances. Natural England, the government
:08:41. > :08:44.agency which looks after natural trails, has cut the path's
:08:44. > :08:50.maintenance grant by 30%, from more than �600,000 to less than half a
:08:51. > :09:00.million. Steve Church represents the 6,000
:09:00. > :09:04.strong membership of the South West We would urge Natural England to
:09:04. > :09:07.ensure that emergency funding is available for situations like this.
:09:07. > :09:16.The money involved, from a national point of view, it's less than
:09:16. > :09:19.peanuts. It's crumbs of peanuts. And yet the response we get from
:09:19. > :09:22.that, this path brings in �300 million a year to the South West.
:09:22. > :09:25.That's a fantastic return for Natural England's input of about
:09:25. > :09:29.�300,000. The return is enormous. Let's put it that way. It's a
:09:29. > :09:32.health asset, for goodness sake. It's the green gym writ large. It's
:09:32. > :09:37.something that you couldn't possibly reproduce in any way like
:09:37. > :09:39.that. For the minute sums that are available in order to ensure that's
:09:39. > :09:44.always the case, we would urge Natural England, please, come and
:09:44. > :09:48.join us. We're doing our bit. The natural authorities, the National
:09:48. > :09:52.Trust are doing their bit, please, can you join us as well?
:09:52. > :09:54.It could cost as much as �300,000 just to repair this winter's damage,
:09:54. > :09:58.money that Natural England says is not available this financial year.
:09:58. > :10:01.But it says it will do all it can to find additional funding in the
:10:01. > :10:11.future. Until then, significant sections of this unique and
:10:11. > :10:14.
:10:14. > :10:20.uniquely vulnerable national It's not just the great outdoors
:10:21. > :10:26.that's felt the force of all that rain. Whole communities have
:10:26. > :10:29.suffered too. We've been to one near Plymouth, where some people
:10:29. > :10:32.fear repeated flooding means they'll be abandoned by the
:10:32. > :10:37.insurance agency. That's the first sign of flooding,
:10:37. > :10:40.when you see the water bubbling up through the manhole cover.
:10:40. > :10:48.happened so quickly, within half an hour, it was just coming up through
:10:48. > :10:51.We weren't allowed to walk down the street because the manholes may be
:10:51. > :11:00.exposed and we could get sucked down. That's pretty frightening
:11:00. > :11:04.stuff. The people of Colebrook have had
:11:04. > :11:09.enough, of rain, of flooding - it's been six times in 12 months - and
:11:09. > :11:12.of seven years of talk about how to protect them.
:11:12. > :11:15.They were very non-commital because we asked them that at the meeting,
:11:15. > :11:20.they said they didn't have any figures. They said they couldn't
:11:20. > :11:24.possibly say. And now some fear their flood
:11:24. > :11:25.insurance is a thing of the past, and that the life of this 700-year-
:11:25. > :11:28.old-village could be drowned out altogether.
:11:28. > :11:35.When ever they mention there's a weather warning with rain, I still
:11:35. > :11:43.can't sleep. Jan Luke has lived in Colebrook for
:11:43. > :11:45.38 years. She's been flooded three times in the last 12 months. Now
:11:45. > :11:49.her insurance no longer covers flood damage.
:11:49. > :11:57.In the kitchen, everything is ruined. All the electricals and now
:11:57. > :12:02.the plaster has to come off the walls because of the damp.
:12:02. > :12:09.It's not just water that invades her home, but sewage too.
:12:09. > :12:19.I thought it was the carpets. It's just a woody smell, damp. It's a
:12:19. > :12:20.
:12:20. > :12:23.disgusting smell and it takes weeks and weeks to get rid of.
:12:23. > :12:28.The last time it flooded was just three days before Christmas.
:12:28. > :12:32.I thought, "It's not going. When's it going to go? Where's this going
:12:32. > :12:35.to end? Where are we going to end up?"
:12:35. > :12:38.Becky Stucky and her husband Chris were woken in the night by
:12:38. > :12:47.neighbours. The fire service, stretched by floods across the
:12:47. > :12:49.region, were in Colebrook for nine hours but could only do so much.
:12:49. > :12:52.The fire brigade said they were leaving and that was the
:12:52. > :12:55.devastating point, when they said they were going. I absolutely
:12:55. > :13:03.begged that fireman not to go. I said, "Please, you're all that's
:13:03. > :13:07."If you go, it's just going to crash through our house." He said,
:13:07. > :13:17."Sorry, we've got to move on." And I just thought, everything we've
:13:17. > :13:17.
:13:17. > :13:25.worked for, our home and our So why is flooding such a problem
:13:25. > :13:28.here? Well, you'd be forgiven for thinking the clue's in the name.
:13:28. > :13:32.And yes, as you might expect, Colebrook does have a brook running
:13:32. > :13:39.near it. Local people say that it was full to bursting, the stream
:13:39. > :13:49.would've been running up to my waist here. But this insn't the
:13:49. > :13:49.
:13:49. > :13:52.source of the water that's been flooding Colebrook.
:13:52. > :13:54.Everyone agrees the real issue lies in the village itself, with old
:13:54. > :14:01.drains that struggle to cope after heavy rain.
:14:02. > :14:07.The sewage came through the kitchen, down through this corridor. You had
:14:07. > :14:10.water in here. The water was coming up through the floors all the way
:14:10. > :14:14.along the back wall. And you had customers while the flood was
:14:14. > :14:18.happening? The pub was full. The Colebrook Inn has been closed
:14:18. > :14:21.since November. Landlord Dave Mitchelmore's lost nearly �100,000
:14:21. > :14:24.in takings and his chances of getting insured are going down the
:14:24. > :14:30.drain too. We had a full body of people here
:14:30. > :14:34.as well. And they were helping you try to get the water out. They had
:14:34. > :14:38.to in the end because down here the water was coming up so fast through
:14:38. > :14:41.the floorswe had to get out of the chairs and the sofas up to this
:14:41. > :14:44.higher ground so we could try and save the furniture down there. But
:14:44. > :14:47.then the water came up so high, it overlapped and came through the
:14:47. > :14:49.back door as well. Colebrook sits at the bottom of a
:14:49. > :14:51.hill and is surrounded by development. That also increases
:14:51. > :14:54.the flooding risk, according to one expert.
:14:54. > :14:58.It's very narrow and it's a prevailing route from the hills
:14:58. > :15:05.down into the village. Almost like a mini-canyon, where you've got the
:15:05. > :15:08.walls either side. It is. Professor Dragan Savic has spent a
:15:08. > :15:15.whole career studying flooding, but you don't need a PhD to spot this
:15:15. > :15:19.problem. In these situations with flooding,
:15:19. > :15:22.it's not just the water that comes in, it's when you get these blocked
:15:22. > :15:23.drains so the water cannot go into the drainage system, so it flows
:15:23. > :15:24.the drainage system, so it flows the drainage system, so it flows
:15:24. > :15:34.onto the road and makes the onto the road and makes the
:15:34. > :15:37.
:15:37. > :15:39.situation even worse. Plymouth Council says it regularly
:15:39. > :15:42.clears the gullies, but even unblocked, Colebrook's Victorian
:15:42. > :15:47.drains have struggled to cope. Now theres a plan, first, put forward
:15:47. > :15:49.in 2006, to divert more rainwater into the loal brook via a new drain.
:15:49. > :15:54.But crucially, that needs approval from the Environment Agency, which
:15:54. > :15:57.isn't guaranteed. Residents are also worried the plan could simply
:15:57. > :16:03.overload the brook, resulting in flood waters from it flowing back
:16:03. > :16:06.into the village. Concerns professor Savic shares.
:16:06. > :16:09.If it happens that there is more water in the brookbeyond the
:16:09. > :16:13.capacity, I think the flooding, the backing up of water in that
:16:13. > :16:19.direction could possibly happen, yes. So that direction os the
:16:19. > :16:26.direction back to Colebrook. afraid so.
:16:27. > :16:29.It's mid-January. Today, Colebrook's residents have a chance
:16:29. > :16:31.to air their concerns. The committee that oversees the
:16:31. > :16:34.region's flood defences has come to the village.
:16:34. > :16:41.We're a polite village but we've been too polite for too long.
:16:41. > :16:44.Hopefully they'll know how upset and angry we are and act on it.
:16:44. > :16:54.I ask, but the man from the council doesn't want to be interviewed. Nor
:16:54. > :16:59.did South West Water. But they do take questions from local people
:16:59. > :17:02.worried about the plan that's on the table.
:17:02. > :17:05.And the Environment Agency told me that there is no guarantee that
:17:05. > :17:08.Plyouth Council and South West Water will get a permit because the
:17:08. > :17:14.tory brook is nearly at capacity, so we could wait until 2014 and
:17:14. > :17:17.then be told that we're back to square one. There's no way that
:17:17. > :17:20.we're going to lead anybody up the garden path for two years and then
:17:20. > :17:25.suddenly say "no", but as chairman of the South West Flood Defence
:17:25. > :17:28.Committee, I can gurantee that our officers wouldn't do that. When
:17:28. > :17:31.people get very, very angry is when they're not informed, they start to
:17:31. > :17:34.feel that nothing is happening and that they're being kept in the dark,
:17:34. > :17:38.so you guys really need to keep the local residents informed.
:17:38. > :17:41.absolutely with you and that's why we're here today. We thought it was
:17:41. > :17:44.a good idea to come and listen to people and that will continue.
:17:44. > :17:50.council's suggested baffle boards and sandbags could offer short term
:17:50. > :17:55.protection. But it's the long term future of Colebrook itself that
:17:55. > :17:59.worries those who fear they'll become uninsurable. The village is
:17:59. > :18:03.not viable if you cannot get insurance. People start moving out
:18:03. > :18:10.of the village because of the problems and people cannot get
:18:10. > :18:15.mortgages for these properties even if they wanted to buy them. For now,
:18:15. > :18:20.others have no chance -- choice but to stay put and face what ever the
:18:20. > :18:25.weather brings. We are in a tricky situation. We cannot move. How long
:18:25. > :18:30.will it be before it happens again? The authorities say they will be
:18:30. > :18:40.working on detailed plans over the next six months. The people here
:18:40. > :18:44.
:18:44. > :18:48.We are looking into a charity that is promising to save lives. The
:18:48. > :18:53.children's air ambulance was set up six years ago, but has not been
:18:53. > :19:01.able to fly a single child anywhere, and as we have been finding out,
:19:01. > :19:07.the charity has sparked an almighty row amongst existing air and its
:19:07. > :19:12.services. They are called the angels of its -- ambulance services.
:19:12. > :19:15.They are called the angels of the sky and it is not hard to see why.
:19:15. > :19:21.Air ambulances like these are run by charities, and as charities,
:19:21. > :19:26.they depend entirely on donations to save lives. But now there is a
:19:26. > :19:29.charity that says it wants to start a new service, a national
:19:29. > :19:34.helicopter dedicated to transporting Sick children between
:19:34. > :19:40.hospitals. There are fears this could impact on existing air
:19:40. > :19:47.ambulance services. If plans for the local indolence services are
:19:47. > :19:55.diminished, people could die. -- the local air and Dillons services.
:19:55. > :20:00.So far, not a single child has been transported. There are questions
:20:00. > :20:06.and how donations are being spent, but the backers believe in it.
:20:06. > :20:11.people will get behind this and it is worth every penny. But how
:20:11. > :20:21.realistic is the service, and would cost will it have on other air
:20:21. > :20:27.
:20:28. > :20:33.It is a Sunday afternoon in January, and the crew of this air and
:20:33. > :20:43.Dillons in Dorset are on their way to an accident. -- ambulance. It is
:20:43. > :20:45.
:20:45. > :20:50.a suspected head injury. Are you comfortable? You should be!
:20:50. > :20:56.ambulance flies 700 missions a year. It would not be possible without
:20:56. > :21:01.money collected in places like this branch in Somerset. -- like this
:21:01. > :21:05.garage in Somerset. This is the chief executive. Lately, he says
:21:05. > :21:10.there has been a new collection box that has been causing confusion.
:21:10. > :21:15.concern is that the people who see these boxes do not understand the
:21:15. > :21:21.difference between the two. You do not know where this one operates.
:21:21. > :21:25.This one is actually based in Coventry. The owner of this box
:21:25. > :21:30.operates a two emergency helicopter services for people living in the
:21:31. > :21:35.Midlands, but wants to start a new national service, dedicated to
:21:35. > :21:42.transferring children between hospitals. Big and too often this
:21:42. > :21:48.retrieval service by using one helicopter to -- a plan to use this
:21:48. > :21:54.were true will surface by using one helicopter. This is causing concern
:21:54. > :22:00.locally. Calling yourself and ambulance service is a misnomer.
:22:00. > :22:07.There is more than one. It is presenting itself as a nationwide
:22:07. > :22:13.service, and in fact, it is only part of the Organisation that is
:22:13. > :22:20.involved nationally. The other two are local, just like us. I would
:22:20. > :22:23.argue that it is quite impractical to expect one aircraft to do a
:22:23. > :22:28.children's retrieval service nationwide. He is not the only
:22:28. > :22:34.person to have concerns. We have spoken to former volunteers and
:22:34. > :22:39.employees of the charity. This woman is one of them. She used to
:22:39. > :22:44.work as a fund-raising manager there. Why did you leave? Because I
:22:44. > :22:54.was very unhappy with the way in which the charity was moving. It
:22:54. > :22:57.
:22:57. > :23:02.had become a hard-nosed business. Salaries, cars, the recruitment, it
:23:02. > :23:09.got more and more. When of the senior personnel was the head of
:23:09. > :23:19.public relations and was paid to a company. Did you know about this
:23:19. > :23:21.
:23:21. > :23:27.company? Yes. The company organised events that benefited the air
:23:27. > :23:30.ambulance. Barbara also says that the company helped book celebrities
:23:30. > :23:35.for charity events, and that they were paid for their appearances.
:23:35. > :23:41.What is wrong with celebrity endorsements and paying celebrities
:23:41. > :23:46.if it raises money? It depends on how it is promoted, whether it is
:23:46. > :23:54.perceived that somebody is appearing free of charge, what
:23:54. > :23:59.profit is made from the event. charity was not only confined to
:23:59. > :24:08.fund-raising events. Barbara also told me that she remembers a staff
:24:08. > :24:10.get together. It was in this village hall in rugby. Two
:24:10. > :24:15.celebrities from a popular BBC programme were invited to give
:24:15. > :24:21.dancing lessons to the staff. It was organised by the chief
:24:21. > :24:26.executive, Andy Williamson. She claims it cost the charity several
:24:26. > :24:32.thousand pounds. Barbara also says that some staff were paid
:24:32. > :24:37.performance related bonuses. She received �3,500, something she now
:24:37. > :24:47.regrets. According to the latest accounts, Andy Williamson is paid
:24:47. > :24:52.
:24:52. > :24:57.I have come to Coventry airport. It is the home of the air ambulance
:24:57. > :25:02.service, where Andy Williamson is based. Why did you choose the name
:25:02. > :25:07.of the air ambulance service? a good reflection of what we are
:25:08. > :25:13.actually doing. People think that you are a national charity when you
:25:13. > :25:16.are not. I do not think that they do. I think there is no confusion
:25:16. > :25:20.between the charities. All charities tell people exactly what
:25:20. > :25:24.they are doing and donors have to have a look at what the charity is
:25:24. > :25:29.actually doing. All of the information is freely available.
:25:29. > :25:32.it appropriate for your charity to have paid a business for services
:25:32. > :25:36.when the director of that company is your wife? He does not a
:25:36. > :25:40.conflict, because we are looking at the services that we need to
:25:40. > :25:49.provide for our staff and our Organisation, because in the end,
:25:49. > :25:55.we have to deliver this substantial sums to deliver patient care. We
:25:55. > :25:59.have a board of trustees that ensure all of our processes and all
:25:59. > :26:07.of our processes are correct. you keep your wife is the best
:26:07. > :26:14.person for that job? Obviously. you paid celebrities to have an
:26:14. > :26:19.awayday, morale-boosting afternoon. Is that really appropriate, to have
:26:19. > :26:24.money spent in that way? Again, it is about what we do for our
:26:25. > :26:30.patients, because... But that is for the staff. By everything is
:26:30. > :26:35.about our patient. However many staff we have, we need to keep them
:26:35. > :26:41.motivated and focused on delivering their particular role that ensures
:26:42. > :26:46.that we deliver that patient care. This helicopter will cost �2
:26:46. > :26:51.million a year to operate. And last month, it has transported four
:26:51. > :26:57.medical teams. -- in the last month. So far it has not transported a
:26:57. > :27:01.single child, but he believes it Bill by the spring. Mr Williamson's
:27:01. > :27:05.charity is not the only one that is looking at services for Sick
:27:05. > :27:10.children. The NHS has just commissioned a report looking at
:27:10. > :27:16.how it can be achieved and who will provide it. We obtained a leaked
:27:16. > :27:21.copy. This draft report recommends a network of different providers,
:27:21. > :27:24.including regional air ambulances. But looking at the report, it is
:27:24. > :27:29.apparent that a single air ambulance based in Coventry may not
:27:29. > :27:35.be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts of the
:27:35. > :27:39.country. Even if it could, less than a quarter of our hospitals
:27:39. > :27:45.have a helicopter pad for it to land on. In the meantime, the
:27:45. > :27:48.arguments continue over the way the in ambulance service is using its
:27:48. > :27:52.children's helicopter to raise money and how it is impacting on
:27:53. > :28:00.local services. Is this not just that you are feeling threatened by
:28:00. > :28:03.another charity that can be a competitor? In Dorset and Somerset
:28:04. > :28:07.there are lots of very good charities and I do not feel
:28:07. > :28:13.threatened by any of them. They know exactly what they are getting
:28:13. > :28:20.into. When you get into the air Ambulance Service, you can
:28:20. > :28:24.understand my fear about the confusion. If the opportunity to
:28:24. > :28:28.raise funds for the local air ambulance or diminished and there