:00:05. > :00:08.Hello and welcome to Inside Out. Here's what's coming up tonight.
:00:08. > :00:15.Nearly three years after Gurkha families won the right to live in
:00:15. > :00:18.Britain, one army town has problems. Someone is going to end up dead
:00:18. > :00:21.definitely. They start a fight and other people start a fight and it
:00:21. > :00:25.goes like that. Can football bring peace to Aldershot?
:00:25. > :00:28.Everyone's worried. It is an accident waiting to happen.
:00:28. > :00:31.Extracting energy reserves from under the south.
:00:31. > :00:36.But will this gas bonanza cause earthquakes and contaminate our
:00:36. > :00:41.water? We're trying to put everything in place to make sure
:00:41. > :00:46.that nothing like this can happen again. And conservation success for
:00:46. > :00:50.the red kite. But can you over-pamper a bird of
:00:50. > :00:54.prey? A great spectacle or a nightmare worthy of Hitchcock?
:00:54. > :01:04.should fine people for feeding the birds en masse. This isn't proper
:01:04. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:22.management. I'm John Cuthill and Tonight we're at the Sir Harold
:01:22. > :01:25.Hillier Gardens just outside Romsey because of this, the Gurkha
:01:25. > :01:27.Memorial Garden. It's been nearly three years since that historic
:01:27. > :01:33.ruling. Joanna Lumley shouting triumphantly her war cry as Gurkhas
:01:33. > :01:36.are given the right to live in Britain. But no one could have
:01:36. > :01:40.predicted how many Nepalese people would choose to settle in one
:01:40. > :01:50.particular part of Hampshire. As Nick Wallis finds out, that's been
:01:50. > :01:54.Aldershot has always been known as the home of the British army but
:01:54. > :01:58.now some people are beginning to call it Little Nepal and not in a
:01:58. > :02:01.good way. Since Joanna Lumley's campaign to give Gurkhas and their
:02:01. > :02:05.families the right to settle here, thousands of people have come to
:02:05. > :02:09.this town and the surrounding areas. It's now thought 10% of the
:02:09. > :02:11.population is Nepalese. Not surprisingly this big influx over a
:02:11. > :02:17.short period has brought tension, particularly amongst some of the
:02:17. > :02:19.young people. In the local parks especially, there have been real
:02:19. > :02:24.problems between the two communities and one local youth
:02:24. > :02:30.worker has been watching the situation get worse. There's often
:02:30. > :02:34.clashes, especially around public events like firework displays.
:02:34. > :02:38.There has to be an increased police presence. There isn't any
:02:38. > :02:43.integration or mixing going on. It tends to be a big group of Nepalese
:02:44. > :02:50.people in the parks. Has that led to confrontations? Yes. And they
:02:50. > :02:54.can get violent? Definitely. Every time I'm in here I have to run. You
:02:54. > :02:58.get all the Nepalese coming up here and they start chasing us and stuff.
:02:58. > :03:02.I've had a few fights with them at school. I was jumped at school by
:03:02. > :03:07.seven of them. So they've come here and they take over? They've bullied
:03:07. > :03:10.us out of our park basically. summer while riots were going on in
:03:10. > :03:13.other parts of the country, Manor Park in Aldershot was seen as a
:03:13. > :03:16.potential tinderbox. The police were granted a dispersal order,
:03:16. > :03:21.allowing them to move youngsters out of the area and things did calm
:03:21. > :03:27.down. But it seems whenever there is a big event in Aldershot,
:03:27. > :03:31.trouble is never far away. In every funfair there's a fight going on
:03:32. > :03:38.somewhere. There's always going to be a fight. I don't know. How bad
:03:38. > :03:41.does it get? Three or four police vans pull up. Like, pretty bad.
:03:41. > :03:44.When the white kids say it's you guys starting it, you're ing the
:03:44. > :03:50.problem, what do you think? Every time different people start. It's
:03:50. > :03:53.not just us, not just them. Everyone starts, to be truthful.
:03:53. > :04:00.These young men, sons of Gurkha soldiers, have come here to make a
:04:00. > :04:04.new life with their families. They have to deal with a new language
:04:04. > :04:07.and an alien culture and many have had a hostile reception. There's
:04:07. > :04:13.lots of white people being racist to us. It's different colours. We
:04:13. > :04:18.have a different colour of skin. They call me by different names and
:04:18. > :04:24.tell you to go to your own country. It's difficult actually, dealing
:04:24. > :04:26.with them. It's clear there's a big divide
:04:26. > :04:33.between the two communities. Suspicions, misunderstandings and
:04:33. > :04:36.little dialogue. They just want to stick together. They don't want to
:04:36. > :04:40.be friends with white people. older Nepalese people, they're all
:04:41. > :04:47.right, aren't they? Nothing wrong with them. It's just the young'uns.
:04:47. > :04:51.It's not always them starting. It's both of us. They start it
:04:51. > :04:55.really. When we're on our own, they like to start. When we are with a
:04:55. > :05:02.group, we like to start. Where do you see this going if something
:05:02. > :05:07.isn't done? Someone is going to end up dead, definitely. It's not will
:05:07. > :05:11.it happen. It's when it's going to happen and that's a definite. If we
:05:11. > :05:13.don't stop it now or try to stop it now, it's going to just escalate
:05:13. > :05:20.and you're going to lose a whole generation of people with
:05:20. > :05:24.resentments towards each other. I know there's ways around it, but no
:05:24. > :05:27.one seems to be trying to help at the moment. This man is trying to
:05:27. > :05:31.do something. When his wife couldn't get an appointment with
:05:31. > :05:39.the local GP because of the numbers of new Nepali patients, it was the
:05:40. > :05:43.final straw. He started a Facebook page highlighting the problems.
:05:43. > :05:47.actually signed the petition for the Gurkhas to come to the UK. I
:05:47. > :05:50.just think it was ill thought out. Too many people, too fast. I wanted
:05:50. > :05:57.to voice my concerns, rather than doing it in the pub with friends,
:05:57. > :06:06.on a larger scale. I started a Facebook group just to see what
:06:06. > :06:09.would happen. Over the next 72 hours we had over 1000 members join.
:06:09. > :06:19.Despite some racist postings on the site, Sam is adamant it isn't a
:06:19. > :06:21.
:06:21. > :06:24.platform for bigots. He wants it to be a force for good between the two
:06:24. > :06:27.communities. Yeah, I've got three children. At the point when I
:06:27. > :06:31.started the group, my newest son was two weeks old. I was basically
:06:31. > :06:35.sat there on the sofa thinking is this the Aldershot I want my family
:06:35. > :06:37.to grow up in? I don't want them to grow up in a divided community with
:06:37. > :06:41.hate and segregation. I just wanted something to change. Like Sam,
:06:41. > :06:44.youth worker Richard Cooper is trying to build bridges. At the
:06:44. > :06:48.town's youth club, locals are cooking the Nepalis a traditional
:06:48. > :06:51.English meal, curry. But the biggest challenge will be bringing
:06:51. > :06:55.together those factions involved in confrontation. Richard thinks he
:06:55. > :07:03.might have the answer. The beautiful game. A football match
:07:03. > :07:05.with both sides playing together. It's not rocket science. It's food
:07:05. > :07:07.and football, two of the most sociable, easily organised
:07:07. > :07:13.activities you can get. The challenge is the integration part
:07:13. > :07:16.of it. Even in a controlled football pitch environment. I've
:07:16. > :07:22.started to notice a slight shift in viewpoints over the last couple of
:07:22. > :07:26.weeks though. You know what, it's about time we shook hands. You say
:07:26. > :07:31.you'd like to sort it out. What actually needs to be done? Bonding
:07:31. > :07:35.together. Group activities. should get us all in a group. Seven
:07:35. > :07:38.of us and seven of them. Do basketball. That's what they do,
:07:38. > :07:42.basketball. And play football, what we do, the English people. We love
:07:42. > :07:46.playing football. If their community wants to get us together,
:07:46. > :07:50.I guarantee we will be the first ones to go ahead with that and be
:07:50. > :07:57.friends. We really do want to be friends. This is a new country for
:07:57. > :08:02.us. It's not like back home. To make more friends, that's all we
:08:02. > :08:08.want. It's three months since the idea of the match was first
:08:08. > :08:12.suggested. Today is the big day, but will enough people turn up? Now
:08:12. > :08:16.the teams are going to be mixed so it's no us and them. Let's see what
:08:16. > :08:24.sort of bridges can be built over the next 90 minutes. Marley. Yut.
:08:24. > :08:31.Pauppu. Mika. Danu. Rhys, Harry, Nath, Jamie. I'm excited for this
:08:31. > :08:35.game. It's going to be good. I can't wait. I didn't think it was
:08:35. > :08:39.going to happen. We don't really play with them. It will be good to
:08:39. > :08:42.get involved with them and that. This is one of the main boys as
:08:42. > :08:46.well from what happened with the fights. I can't be bothered to
:08:46. > :08:49.fight with them. I want to get on with them. You're here for one
:08:49. > :08:56.thing and that is to play football, OK? You're on one team, one side,
:08:56. > :08:59.with one idea, to change Aldershot. Every one of you is here to make
:08:59. > :09:02.that choice today. All right? the teams are picked with Nepali
:09:02. > :09:10.and white lads playing together, the spectators are getting to know
:09:10. > :09:13.each other, too. Nice to meet you. I'm one of the dads. I take it you
:09:13. > :09:16.are as well. Those are mine. older generation are supporting the
:09:16. > :09:20.youngsters, keen to see new friendships made. I always loved
:09:20. > :09:24.British people because we are here in their country so we have to
:09:24. > :09:31.integrate with them. You deserve to be here. You deserve to be here.
:09:31. > :09:37.That is my perception. Those are my cousins. I tell them don't fight
:09:37. > :09:41.with British people. Try to talk to them. Try to share ideas with them.
:09:41. > :09:45.If there are any problems with the kids on my side of it or any of my
:09:45. > :09:49.kids or anything like that, then just give me a ring and we need to
:09:49. > :09:52.sort things out. Yes. The match kicks off and it quickly becomes
:09:52. > :09:55.obvious the game is more important than any feud.
:09:55. > :10:01.It's competitive but there are no flare-ups. Months of racial tension
:10:01. > :10:04.begin to drain away. By doing all this and everyone getting together
:10:04. > :10:11.and playing football, everyone is changing and that. It's getting
:10:11. > :10:14.everyone together to make a team. We play together. Nepali and white
:10:15. > :10:24.people and we make friendship more so there won't be any trouble in
:10:24. > :10:27.It is hoped this match will be the first of many and that these
:10:27. > :10:34.players will form a regular team called United Rushmore, which will
:10:34. > :10:38.compete in the local leagues. was a nice game. I got to know more
:10:38. > :10:44.people. It's doing really well. It's going good. Firm handshakes,
:10:44. > :10:48.eye to eye contact, a few smiles? Yes. I think a couple are all right
:10:48. > :10:51.people when you get to know them and speak to them. If all goes well,
:10:51. > :10:58.these lads will bring football success to the town and a positive
:10:58. > :11:03.legacy for future generations. Fantastic. Everyone here was for
:11:03. > :11:08.the same thing altogether. It was quite a sight. Do you think you
:11:08. > :11:14.have bright prospects? I'm under no disillusion. It's not fixed. But we
:11:14. > :11:19.got 25 or 30 guys that are starting a friendship. This is the future,
:11:19. > :11:25.the future of Aldershot. You're all so proud of your town and your
:11:25. > :11:29.choice is today. Change comes through choice. We are all here
:11:29. > :11:32.today out of choice because you want to make a difference to the
:11:32. > :11:42.town you're going to grow up in. This is where all the racial
:11:42. > :11:44.
:11:44. > :11:48.Next, is fracking the answer to the South's looming energy crisis? It's
:11:48. > :11:53.controversial. It's been blamed for causing tremors and it could be
:11:53. > :12:03.heading our way. Scott Ellis investigates.
:12:03. > :12:04.
:12:04. > :12:06.In America, fracking for gas is a $1 trillion industry. It's highly
:12:06. > :12:11.profitable and highly controversial. And before long, fracking could
:12:11. > :12:14.come to areas across the South. In West Sussex, this site in the
:12:14. > :12:19.village of Balcombe is being considered for test drilling by
:12:19. > :12:25.Cuadrilla, the company linked to earth tremors in Lancashire. Over
:12:25. > :12:30.in Somerset, UK Methane has already sunk a test drill. If the site is
:12:30. > :12:34.suitable, fracking could be used to extract the gas. If I said fracking
:12:34. > :12:39.to you, do you know what it means? No, not fracking. I've heard it
:12:39. > :12:42.somewhere. It sounds rude. suspect that it means something
:12:42. > :12:44.quite unusual that you're perhaps going to tell me. Hydraulic
:12:44. > :12:50.fracturing involves drilling thousands of feet to gas that's
:12:50. > :12:53.trapped in deep shale rocks. Then small explosions open up cracks,
:12:53. > :12:56.followed by the frack itself, a mixture of water, sand and
:12:56. > :13:06.chemicals, pumped down at high pressures, helping to free up the
:13:06. > :13:06.
:13:06. > :13:16.gas. So you need water, sand and a few chemicals. Force them into the
:13:16. > :13:22.ground, and the gas comes up to the Fracked gas is now all the rage in
:13:22. > :13:26.America. It's revolutionised their energy sector. 15 years ago the USA
:13:26. > :13:30.was building liquefied natural gas terminals all round its coast. They
:13:30. > :13:33.felt they were running short of their own gas supplies. These were
:13:34. > :13:36.import terminals for importing the natural gas from Qatar. They have
:13:36. > :13:41.been turned into export terminals, so America is exporting gas to
:13:41. > :13:46.other countries, which is a phenomenal turnaround. But a lack
:13:46. > :13:53.of regulation in America has caused a backlash. There are fears that
:13:54. > :13:59.fracked gas has escaped into underground water supplies. The
:13:59. > :14:01.industry denies that fracking is the only possible cause. But this
:14:01. > :14:09.year, controversy came here to the UK, when Cuadrilla's high-pressure
:14:09. > :14:11.fracking operations near Blackpool were followed by two earthquakes.
:14:11. > :14:14.On the day the earthquake report was released, anti-fracking
:14:14. > :14:20.protesters shook things up, taking this footage as they occupied
:14:20. > :14:23.Cuadrilla's site. Cuadrilla has admitted it was highly probable
:14:23. > :14:26.that their fracking triggered the earthquakes. They've stopped the
:14:26. > :14:30.process while they improve underground monitoring. It is not
:14:30. > :14:36.in our interest to have these kind of seismic events. It's time-
:14:36. > :14:41.consuming to us. We're trying to put everything in place to make
:14:41. > :14:45.sure that nothing like this can happen again. Fears about water
:14:45. > :14:49.supplies being poisoned and triggering earthquakes. It's not
:14:49. > :14:53.been a great first year for fracking in the UK. Is everybody
:14:53. > :14:57.just exaggerating? What do the experts think about this earth-
:14:58. > :15:03.shattering new way of releasing shale gas? Bristol has its own
:15:03. > :15:06.earthquake study centre where they can recreate seismic activity.
:15:06. > :15:15.Here's the brutal earthquake which struck Christchurch in New Zealand
:15:15. > :15:19.in February, killing 181 people. And they've also monitored the two
:15:19. > :15:22.earthquakes in Lancashire, linked to the Cuadrilla fracking process.
:15:22. > :15:26.What we are seeing here is a simulation of the Blackpool
:15:26. > :15:31.earthquake as a result of the fracking event. You can see it is
:15:31. > :15:34.over. It lasted for about three seconds, very low altitude shake.
:15:34. > :15:39.The earth moves about a centimetre, not enough to cause any structural
:15:39. > :15:41.damage or injury. From an earthquake point of view, the vast
:15:41. > :15:44.amount of evidence that's out there from this fracking process which
:15:44. > :15:47.has been done around the world, is that the earthquakes that are
:15:47. > :15:55.generated by it are very small and insignificant from a structural
:15:55. > :15:59.engineering point of view. everyone is convinced. Richard set
:15:59. > :16:02.up an anti-fracking group in the Mendips. It is an area where
:16:02. > :16:08.fracking could be used to unlock gas reserves. But it's not
:16:08. > :16:10.earthquakes that bother him. issue that I've got is the
:16:10. > :16:18.chemicals that they pumped underground to create this
:16:18. > :16:24.fracturing effect. What it does is they pump a mix of chemicals at
:16:24. > :16:28.very high pressure and they pumped into the loose rock, the shale. The
:16:28. > :16:30.gas, so to speak, fizzes out of the shale. The problem is these
:16:30. > :16:34.chemicals are really noxious. Hundreds of thousands of people get
:16:34. > :16:38.their water from the Mendips. If you look over there you can just
:16:38. > :16:42.about see Cheddar Reservoir, fed by the river among other things. The
:16:43. > :16:48.Cheddar Yeo River actually goes underground and pops out again.
:16:48. > :16:52.What if we get chemicals leaking into there? It's too big a risk for
:16:52. > :16:55.what is a very small gain. question you might have is what
:16:55. > :17:00.else goes in. The industry makes no secret that chemicals are added to
:17:00. > :17:10.the water used for fracking. In the UK, every additive has to be
:17:10. > :17:11.
:17:12. > :17:14.It's in the city of Bath where fracking is feared most. The hot
:17:14. > :17:23.spring waters here sustain a leisure and tourism industry which
:17:23. > :17:27.employs thousands. It's water which falls first as rain on the Mendips.
:17:27. > :17:37.So this is the water from the bowels of the earth? This is our
:17:37. > :17:44.
:17:44. > :17:47.Yes, it is an acquired taste. an unusual case. The council leader
:17:47. > :17:52.and some MPs are worried. If fracking comes to the Mendips,
:17:52. > :17:56.might the dash for gas disrupt Bath's vital springs? In a worst-
:17:56. > :18:00.case scenario you could have water going elsewhere. To be absolutely
:18:00. > :18:02.truthful, we don't know the journey that the water takes to get here,
:18:02. > :18:09.other than it takes several thousand years after falling on the
:18:09. > :18:11.Mendips to arrive at our springs here. What we would like to see is
:18:11. > :18:17.no fracking in any area that affects our water supply until
:18:17. > :18:20.someone has proven to us that there is absolutely no risk. Once you
:18:20. > :18:24.change the water flows and it stops coming, then that is an
:18:24. > :18:27.irreversible decision. government doesn't think a
:18:27. > :18:33.moratorium is necessary or that fracking poses a direct threat to
:18:33. > :18:36.water aquifers. But politicians in Bath want stronger guarantees that
:18:36. > :18:46.the city's water supply will be protected from drilling miles away
:18:46. > :18:48.
:18:48. > :18:53.on the Mendips. So how soon before fracking comes here to the Mendips?
:18:53. > :18:57.UK Methane have told us it could be years away. They are more
:18:57. > :19:04.interested in fracking first in South Wales and then Kent. Then
:19:04. > :19:07.again, this is the energy business, and things can change quickly. The
:19:07. > :19:10.government wants to win over the public so it can expand fracking
:19:10. > :19:13.operations in the UK. Gas burns more cleanly than coal, so it could
:19:13. > :19:23.help to reduce emissions. It's all a question of balancing the
:19:23. > :19:26.
:19:26. > :19:29.Finally tonight, will they be a victim of their own success? It's
:19:29. > :19:35.taken nearly two decades to re- establish one of our most beautiful
:19:36. > :19:40.birds of prey, the red kite. But not everyone is happy they're back
:19:40. > :19:46.in such numbers. The Chilterns in Oxfordshire, the heart of red kite
:19:46. > :19:54.country. Here was the first place they were reintroduced after being
:19:54. > :19:59.wiped out by man. It's been a huge success. 20 years ago, you'd be
:19:59. > :20:02.hard pushed to see any. Now there are nearly 700 breeding pairs.
:20:02. > :20:09.Brassy, bold and beautiful, red kites riding thermals under blue
:20:09. > :20:12.skies. For some people that's just not enough. Red kites favour
:20:12. > :20:15.carrion. They're primarily scavengers. As for that old saying
:20:15. > :20:21.there's no such thing as a free lunch? This is Friday lunchtime for
:20:21. > :20:28.the kites, is it? That's right. How long have you been doing this?
:20:28. > :20:32.Eight or 10 years, I suppose. did you start? When they let them
:20:32. > :20:35.go first, there weren't many. I suppose it was a bit of a novelty.
:20:35. > :20:40.You feed them and you start these things and then you carry on, sort
:20:40. > :20:45.of thing. How many can we expect to get with this lot put on the floor?
:20:45. > :20:49.Hopefully there will be 20 or more. Do you see them as something to
:20:49. > :20:54.enjoy? Are the numbers getting too much? I like them but a lot of
:20:54. > :21:00.people don't, do they? Really? What have we got there? Chicken? Pork?
:21:00. > :21:03.Yes and a bit of beef. Hopefully they will come now. If you feed
:21:03. > :21:08.them every day, they will sit here and wait for you to come with more
:21:08. > :21:13.food. They won't even try to get anything on their own. If you feed
:21:13. > :21:17.them now and again they try to get their own. Is that something you
:21:17. > :21:22.decided to do as the numbers grew? Well, there's too many here at the
:21:22. > :21:25.minute, really. They want splitting up a bit. Do you think that's
:21:25. > :21:31.because people have been feeding them too much? Well, they do.
:21:31. > :21:36.Everybody finds something for them. A bit of chicken waste or something.
:21:36. > :21:41.So you never see a hungry red kite? Not really. Not round here. They
:21:41. > :21:47.just keep coming. And just a mile or so down the road, the food just
:21:47. > :21:50.keeps on coming. Chips, by the look of it. While the customers inside
:21:50. > :21:59.Chris's cafe are being well fed, the red kites are licking their
:21:59. > :22:04.beaks ready for today's tasty treat. It's only the scraps that comes off
:22:04. > :22:10.the things. Chips, bread and butter, fried slice. Bacon, sausage. Black
:22:10. > :22:15.pudding. Anything else. Not eggs and beans and that because that
:22:15. > :22:20.makes it too yucky. They're supposed to be scavengers so it's
:22:20. > :22:28.really meat. Anything that's meat is what they really want. We leave
:22:28. > :22:33.the ribs out and the birds eat the ribs and the people eat the meat.
:22:33. > :22:38.Now that's seriously fast food. But not everyone is happy. I think it's
:22:38. > :22:42.wrong. I don't think people should be doing it like this. I think they
:22:42. > :22:45.should be left alone to get on with it like the rest of life. If they
:22:45. > :22:52.are managed properly, they will be fine, but this is not proper
:22:52. > :22:55.management. You think perhaps a deterrent would help? Possibly. To
:22:55. > :23:00.the extent that we should fine people for feeding the birds en
:23:00. > :23:05.masse. Really, why? Well, we've got to try and do things right. The
:23:05. > :23:09.countryside has to work along with everyone. I don't feel it's the
:23:09. > :23:13.right way to manage the birds properly. You don't look in the air
:23:13. > :23:17.and see loads of peregrine falcons or hawks or kestrals coming in and
:23:17. > :23:24.feeding and foraging on bacon sandwiches. But you do with red
:23:24. > :23:34.Let's not forget why red kites were brought back. Just take a look at
:23:34. > :23:36.
:23:36. > :23:41.Instantly you can tell it's a red kite. Yes, very distinctive shape.
:23:41. > :23:45.Those very narrow, long, outspread wings. Wingtips like fingers. The
:23:45. > :23:51.tail forked and constantly moving. And the colour is very distinctive
:23:51. > :23:54.as well. I think they're just magical. The fact that they've been
:23:54. > :23:57.reintroduced from a point that they were extinct in England and now we
:23:57. > :24:04.can see them on a daily basis, enjoying the thermals, flying
:24:04. > :24:09.around this fantastic countryside. People have been putting food out
:24:09. > :24:12.for red kites for years, thinking they are doing them a favour. But
:24:12. > :24:17.what it might be doing is actually causing them to cluster in areas
:24:17. > :24:21.where perhaps they are not as welcome as they might be. Maybe
:24:21. > :24:24.they are breeding at a higher level in areas where they are being fed
:24:24. > :24:29.than the area would naturally be able to sustain. So in the long
:24:29. > :24:32.term, it may actually be doing more harm than good? That's possible. I
:24:32. > :24:37.think a bit of feeding early on in the reintroduction probably helped
:24:37. > :24:45.them to get to a sustainable level. But really now I think it is time
:24:45. > :24:49.to back off and let them survive Right. No rest for the wicked. If I
:24:49. > :24:53.want a really close up view, there is work to be done. The things I do
:24:53. > :24:59.for Inside Out. Join Inside Out, they said. Go and see the world,
:24:59. > :25:09.they said. What am I doing? I'm picking up old chicken from a lay-
:25:09. > :25:10.
:25:10. > :25:13.Are you always going to feed them? Probably. We don't feed them so
:25:13. > :25:18.much in the summer because there's more food about. But with hard
:25:18. > :25:24.winters, it sees them through. You could say there are too many now,
:25:24. > :25:29.can't you? Do you think they need it? Do you think they need the
:25:29. > :25:39.chicken? When the weather is bad, I think they do. Yes.
:25:39. > :25:48.
:25:48. > :25:51.And it doesn't take long for the Now there's no denying that that is
:25:51. > :25:55.a spectacular sight. I've never seen so many birds of prey at one
:25:55. > :26:05.time. There must be at least 50 up there. The question is, is that
:26:05. > :26:06.
:26:06. > :26:10.doing them any good in the long The last thing you want is for this
:26:10. > :26:13.to turn into a bad news story and kites being seen as a bit of a pest.
:26:13. > :26:15.There is a danger that we are heading that way. There is.
:26:15. > :26:18.Obviously people start reading sensationalist news stories about
:26:18. > :26:25.children being injured by kites or kites coming down into people's
:26:25. > :26:28.gardens. We don't want the kites to be viewed in that way. They are
:26:28. > :26:32.wild animals, but because they have been accustomed to being fed, they
:26:32. > :26:38.are behaving in a much more bold way than perhaps we would like them
:26:38. > :26:42.to. All we need to do is stop feeding them and then they will go
:26:42. > :26:47.and find their food elsewhere. It's a very easy problem to solve.
:26:47. > :26:52.can see when they are perched in the trees. This is the man who
:26:52. > :26:55.helped reintroduce the red kites 20 years ago. What does he think?
:26:55. > :26:59.Would you ever have thought they would prove to be controversial?
:26:59. > :27:02.They are causing a bit of a rumpus. I think they are causing a rumpus
:27:02. > :27:06.because any time anyone sees masses of anything they think there are
:27:06. > :27:09.too many. You only have to go a short way up the M40 and you will
:27:09. > :27:14.hardly see them. They are very concentrated in this area, which is
:27:14. > :27:18.probably because people feed them round here. That is possibly bad,
:27:18. > :27:21.possibly good. I have no feelings about it really. That is why there
:27:21. > :27:26.are lots around here. You can't sit on the fence. Do you think people
:27:26. > :27:31.should feed them? They are wonderful to watch and I think it
:27:31. > :27:34.is probably reasonably all right to feed them. If it is a really cold
:27:34. > :27:39.winter it will be super because all of their prey is frozen solid so
:27:39. > :27:42.they cannot eat it. All the worms that they eat go deep down. In a
:27:42. > :27:49.really cold winter it would be ideal to feed them but the rest of
:27:49. > :27:52.the year doesn't really matter. Years ago we did not have any red
:27:53. > :27:55.kites, buzzards or ravens. Now we have buzzards, red kites and ravens.
:27:56. > :27:58.That is mainly because the red kites have come back and the
:27:58. > :28:01.poisoning has stopped. People don't persecute the birds any more. I
:28:01. > :28:05.think it's rather nice having them all back here again. It's where
:28:05. > :28:08.they should be. They were here 120 years ago and it's nice to have
:28:08. > :28:16.them back. You personally, how do you feel? Pretty good about it,
:28:16. > :28:25.And Reading University is currently running a survey on the feeding of
:28:25. > :28:31.red kites. For more information, drop me an e-mail.
:28:31. > :28:35.Look at that. Spring is on the way. See you next time.
:28:35. > :28:39.Next week, the online fraudsters taking us for a ride. If I wanted
:28:39. > :28:43.to break into your house, I would know when you were away, how long
:28:43. > :28:48.you were gone for. Spend any time online these days and chances are