:00:02. > :00:05.Hello from Southampton and welcome to Inside Out. Here's what's coming
:00:06. > :00:08.up tonight. The mum and 13-year-old daughter at
:00:08. > :00:13.the centre of the teenage contraception row give their first
:00:13. > :00:18.TV interview. I was in the lesson and she asked
:00:18. > :00:22.me if I was sure if I wanted to go through with it and I said yes.
:00:22. > :00:26.Then I had it put in my arm and then I went back to lesson.
:00:26. > :00:29.For sex under 16, that's wrong. What next? Abortions in the
:00:29. > :00:33.classroom? Booking your dream holiday home
:00:34. > :00:37.online, but this time hundreds gets scammed.
:00:37. > :00:40.Complete devastation, humiliating as well. They stole your money with
:00:40. > :00:43.no intentions of letting you have the holiday.
:00:43. > :00:47.Behind-the-scenes with Surrey police in their attempts to catch
:00:47. > :00:51.the culprits. To be quite honest, it was just
:00:51. > :00:55.greed. They simply just thought that they would be able to take the
:00:55. > :00:58.money and that would be the end of And the war detective putting names
:00:58. > :01:03.to our unknown soldiers. Two of them have now been
:01:03. > :01:07.identified. Both were identified by artefacts, personal artefacts.
:01:07. > :01:10.I was shocked. When I first saw that they found his body, it
:01:10. > :01:20.suddenly brought World War I right into your front room.
:01:20. > :01:30.
:01:30. > :01:33.I'm Jon Cuthill and this is Inside First tonight, she hit the
:01:33. > :01:37.headlines when her mum found out she had a contraceptive implant
:01:37. > :01:40.fitted at school. The 13-year-old girl from Southampton was at the
:01:40. > :01:45.centre of an international debate over contraception and young
:01:45. > :01:49.teenagers. Jane Goddard has been to meet them
:01:49. > :01:53.for their first television interview.
:01:53. > :01:58.I'm 13 and my boyfriend is 13 and we're both in year nine at our
:01:58. > :02:01.school. And we're having sex so we wanted to get sorted.
:02:01. > :02:07.She's my daughter and she's tried her best to look after her own
:02:07. > :02:10.interests and to protect herself from pregnancy. So I'm proud of her
:02:10. > :02:15.for doing that, but I'm not happy that she's lost her virginity,
:02:15. > :02:18.obviously. The 13-year-old year nine
:02:18. > :02:23.schoolgirl from Southampton had a contraceptive implant inserted in
:02:24. > :02:26.her arm with a local anaesthetic. It's about the size of a matchstick.
:02:26. > :02:32.Manufacturers say it's well over 99% effective and it lasts for
:02:32. > :02:34.three years. In our school, we had discussions,
:02:34. > :02:37.like, girl groups and they talked about different ways of
:02:37. > :02:45.contraception and I found out about it through that and I thought it
:02:45. > :02:48.was the best way so I asked for it. What about other methods?
:02:48. > :02:58.Condoms are always an option for contraception, but they fail and
:02:58. > :03:01.not in young people. I thought the implant was the most effective way.
:03:01. > :03:04.As far as I was aware, they were doing sex education, giving out
:03:04. > :03:09.condoms and advice and everything else. Not actually doing implants
:03:09. > :03:12.at school. That should be down to the doctor, but what they should be
:03:12. > :03:18.teaching kids at school is to build a relationship, build trust, but
:03:18. > :03:23.sex is going to go on unfortunately. No, I'm not happy about it,
:03:23. > :03:26.obviously, but what can I do? Put a chastity belt on her?
:03:26. > :03:28.Southampton's long had a problem with teenage pregnancy, so when the
:03:28. > :03:36.government introduced a drive to get contraception straight to
:03:36. > :03:39.teenage girls, here in Southampton, they took the clinic's into schools.
:03:39. > :03:43.We currently deliver sexual health services as part of the health and
:03:43. > :03:46.well-being agenda in schools. Nine schools in Southampton. And they
:03:46. > :03:48.come into those services and they see a specially trained
:03:48. > :03:51.practitioner who undertakes a comprehensive risk assessment and
:03:51. > :03:58.works with them to look at whether they're at risk in terms of the
:03:58. > :04:01.sexual relationship that they're having.
:04:01. > :04:05.Younger people are having sex nowadays. I know adults don't want
:04:05. > :04:10.to think that, but they are and I know some of them want to not
:04:10. > :04:13.jeopardise their life and they want to get sorted.
:04:13. > :04:21.So, last June, without telling mom, the 13-year-old opted for the
:04:21. > :04:25.implant. Legally, no-one had to inform her family or her doctor.
:04:25. > :04:30.I was in a lesson and the lady came into my class and said, can I
:04:30. > :04:34.borrow you? And then we went into a different room and she asked me if
:04:34. > :04:41.I was sure I wanted to go through with it. She told me there are some
:04:41. > :04:47.risks, but they're not major. I said yes. Then I just had it put in
:04:47. > :04:50.my arm and then went back to lessen. All young people need to be assured
:04:50. > :04:53.that the services they access are confidential. The law is very clear
:04:53. > :04:56.that young people, if they're capable to do so, in consultation
:04:56. > :05:03.with the health practitioner have the right to make their own choices
:05:03. > :05:06.about the care they access. And it's their choice to do so. I want
:05:06. > :05:08.to stress that, in every contact with the young person, they're
:05:08. > :05:11.encouraged to share that they visited our services with their
:05:11. > :05:18.parents or carers, but it's their choice or decision if they choose
:05:18. > :05:24.not to do so. Very angry. They've done it behind
:05:24. > :05:27.parents backs, quite meekly, actually. My daughter has done the
:05:27. > :05:30.right thing by trying to protect herself on the advice of them, but
:05:30. > :05:33.for actually making that life changing decision for a young child,
:05:33. > :05:42.that should be made by a family doctor, the parent and not the
:05:42. > :05:44.schools. Not in the classroom. Based at the University of
:05:45. > :05:51.Southampton, Prof Roger Ingham is a world-renowned academic researching
:05:51. > :05:57.the sexual behaviour of teenagers. Southampton has a relatively high
:05:57. > :06:00.rate of teenage conceptions. There are big effort to reduce them. We
:06:00. > :06:03.know that young people will respond to school-based services and we've
:06:03. > :06:07.seen over the last 10 years, the rates have come down quite
:06:07. > :06:12.dramatically. The guidelines were established in the House of Lords
:06:12. > :06:15.25 years ago so they've been around for a long time. As far as I can
:06:15. > :06:17.see, those guidelines were followed in this case to the letter, so
:06:17. > :06:20.there's no question of criticising the health service staff, no
:06:20. > :06:23.question of criticising the schools for making their premises available
:06:23. > :06:30.to the health service to come in and do the job they're trained to
:06:30. > :06:37.Mom is also concerned that it's it was so easy to get the implant,
:06:37. > :06:41.perhaps not enough emphasis was put on compulsory after-care.
:06:41. > :06:47.What they've done is neglect her afterwards. It's interfering with
:06:47. > :06:50.her mind, interfering with her body development, what else?
:06:50. > :06:54.All young people are offered follow-ups. Young people of that
:06:54. > :06:56.age are monitored closely through the services. They would be
:06:57. > :07:00.building relationships with the specialist practitioners. We can
:07:00. > :07:03.offer appointments, we can't make people keep them. But those young
:07:03. > :07:07.people are in our sites. We're aware of them and we'll be
:07:07. > :07:11.continuing to provide them with ongoing support.
:07:11. > :07:15.I think I regret not speaking to my mum before I had it done. I think
:07:15. > :07:20.they should offer to come see us again and check if we're all right.
:07:20. > :07:22.They should advise you more to speak to your parents if you can.
:07:22. > :07:26.The health and education authorities responsible say they're
:07:26. > :07:30.simply taking part in a government strategy. The girl in question
:07:30. > :07:37.isn't an isolated case. Last year, across the country, 1700 girls aged
:07:37. > :07:41.13 and 14 were fitted with the contraception implant.
:07:41. > :07:44.They're exploiting the girls to get the pregnancy rates down. STI's are
:07:44. > :07:50.on the increase so without these monthly checks, with chlamydia and
:07:50. > :07:53.everything else, who's protecting my daughter? If you're doing
:07:53. > :08:00.invasive surgery in school, in school time, then let her get on
:08:00. > :08:03.with it knowing that there are side effects.
:08:03. > :08:06.There's evidence that young people are having sex, no doubt about it.
:08:06. > :08:09.The question is, should you allow them to go on having sex without
:08:09. > :08:13.protection or should you try and protect them? Even though, strictly
:08:13. > :08:16.peaking, it's illegal. It's a very pragmatic issue. In a sense, I was
:08:16. > :08:19.pleased that the system seems to be working and that a young girl who
:08:19. > :08:23.has decided to have sex had actually got herself protected
:08:23. > :08:27.which was a very sensible and reasonable thing to do.
:08:27. > :08:34.For sex under 16, that's wrong. They should be building more of
:08:34. > :08:41.that on relationships at school, not doing surgical implants. What
:08:41. > :08:48.next? Abortions in the classroom? I do have some regrets of growing
:08:48. > :08:52.up, in a way, so young, but I wouldn't change anything, really.
:08:52. > :08:57.So you're just happy as long as you're not going to get pregnant?
:08:57. > :09:01.In a way, yes. When do you want kids then?
:09:01. > :09:09.About when I'm 24 and have got a job and a house. Possibly a husband.
:09:09. > :09:12.At this time of year, lots of us are thinking about our holidays.
:09:12. > :09:15.Traditionally we'd be booking in places like this, but statistics
:09:15. > :09:20.show nowadays more than half of us are braving it and booking our own
:09:20. > :09:24.holidays online. Why not? Look at this a villa in Majorca, six
:09:24. > :09:31.bedrooms, four bathrooms, stunning views and the private pool. It
:09:31. > :09:34.sounds like the perfect holiday. What could possibly go wrong?
:09:34. > :09:37.Decided to have a look at some villas on the Internet, searched
:09:37. > :09:41.through a couple of websites trying to find a villa that was suitable
:09:41. > :09:45.for the three families that were going.
:09:46. > :09:50.Unfortunately, Julie fell in love with that dream Majorca villa.
:09:50. > :09:53.We chose this particular one which was in Santa Ponsa are in Majorca.
:09:53. > :09:56.I contacted the owner through e- mail, she then e-mail me back and
:09:56. > :10:00.said, "yes, we can accommodate that," and this was the amounts
:10:00. > :10:06.that was the cost of the villa. I think it was around about the total
:10:06. > :10:10.of 5700 and something pounds. The villa was owned by Tracy and
:10:10. > :10:13.Derren Grant. They weren't travel agents, but I tell you what, they
:10:13. > :10:17.definitely had the knack of getting bookings.
:10:17. > :10:23.On certain weeks, they had up to 10 parties booked into the villa. So
:10:23. > :10:29.it wasn't just a case of making �2750 per week. On one week in
:10:29. > :10:31.August, you can times that by 10. Your card number.
:10:31. > :10:34.The grants seemed perfectly hospitable and reassuring. They
:10:34. > :10:40.would answer any questions about the villa immediately via e-mail
:10:40. > :10:43.and phone. Once they'd been paid, that good service stopped.
:10:43. > :10:48.I actually transferred money from my bank account to the owner's bank
:10:48. > :10:51.account. I heard nothing, nothing at all. So I sent another e-mail
:10:51. > :10:55.and I actually said in the e-mail that I was getting worried because
:10:55. > :11:01.she'd not responded and it had been, maybe a week since I paid the
:11:01. > :11:06.balance. And I still got no response.
:11:06. > :11:08.Julie had transferred money to an account at this bank in Farnham. An
:11:08. > :11:10.account police were already investigating on behalf of another
:11:10. > :11:18.hopeful holidaymaker who also was having trouble contacting the
:11:18. > :11:21.Grants. We managed to establish that the
:11:21. > :11:23.villa was being marketed on a number of websites and enquiries
:11:23. > :11:26.with those websites by one of my colleagues established, in fact,
:11:26. > :11:29.those websites had received a number of reports from other people
:11:29. > :11:36.all stating that they believed there was a fraud taking place with
:11:36. > :11:39.this villa. The Grants were overbooking the
:11:39. > :11:46.villa to such a degree that at one point, 12 holidays were scheduled
:11:46. > :11:49.in for the same week. What's more, the property wasn't even available.
:11:49. > :11:56.They were advertising the villa for holiday bookings knowing that there
:11:56. > :11:59.was a tenant in the villa and the villa was not available for hire.
:11:59. > :12:01.I had a phone call informing me that the villa was under police
:12:01. > :12:04.investigation with the Surrey police and they informed me that
:12:05. > :12:07.there was maybe another 16 families that also reported the same thing
:12:07. > :12:17.and there was people from Norway, Switzerland, France, all these
:12:17. > :12:21.
:12:21. > :12:24.people that had up this particular villa, as well.
:12:24. > :12:27.There are all different age ranges from young teenagers that have
:12:27. > :12:30.their first group holiday as friends going away, there was a
:12:30. > :12:35.party from Sweden and again, a group of girl teenagers going away
:12:35. > :12:39.so they didn't get to go to their holiday. In fact, one of those went
:12:39. > :12:43.out. And you can imagine, at their age going out on their first
:12:43. > :12:46.holiday with all their friends expecting a good time to turn up at
:12:46. > :12:49.a villa where it's no longer available.
:12:49. > :12:54.Police learned that the money that Julie and others have taken into
:12:54. > :12:58.the bank account had long gone. But the investigation team was not
:12:58. > :13:01.giving up. Although the account was linked to a bogus address, upon
:13:01. > :13:11.closer examination there was a tantalising reference to a cottage
:13:11. > :13:12.
:13:12. > :13:16.in Dorset. So the team headed west. Colleagues and myself attended that
:13:16. > :13:21.address and spoke to the occupants at that address who turned out to
:13:21. > :13:23.be the parents of one of the offenders.
:13:23. > :13:28.But the parents denied knowledge of the Grants whereabouts so the
:13:28. > :13:33.police began to search the house for clues.
:13:33. > :13:36.I seized two diaries from a bedside drawer. Mrs Grant, who at that time
:13:36. > :13:43.was I believe 73, became visibly distressed at the fact that I had
:13:43. > :13:46.seized these two diaries. In essence, I had a tug of war with
:13:46. > :13:53.Mrs Grant over these two diaries where she forcibly tried to remove
:13:53. > :13:56.them from my hand. Written in the back of one of the diaries was an
:13:57. > :14:00.address. So at the time, we suspected that that was where they
:14:00. > :14:03.were living. Meanwhile, Julie had to come to
:14:03. > :14:08.terms with her lost holiday and break the news to the other
:14:08. > :14:12.families who were travelling with her, that their money had gone.
:14:12. > :14:18.Complete devastation. I felt responsible because I book this
:14:18. > :14:23.holiday on behalf of the other parties. Humiliating, as well. You
:14:23. > :14:26.feel that you have been taken for a ride. They stole your money with no
:14:26. > :14:32.intentions of letting you have a holiday and it is a hard lesson to
:14:32. > :14:34.The address the police found in the diary led them to a luxury
:14:34. > :14:42.farmhouse in Somerset, from where the Grants were running their
:14:42. > :14:46.business. The game was up. They must be really stupid people. To
:14:46. > :14:50.think they can get away with such a thing. Because in this day and age,
:14:50. > :14:53.there's a lot of things traceable. Because they were doing it through
:14:53. > :14:58.e-mail, bank account transfers and such, I just don't know how they
:14:58. > :15:05.thought they could get away with it. The Grants were arrested on
:15:05. > :15:07.suspicion of fraud. Having managed to con hundreds of people out of
:15:07. > :15:12.their holidays, they were brought to Guildford police station for
:15:12. > :15:16.questioning. Whilst Derren and Tracey had plenty to say about
:15:16. > :15:20.their villa to potential customers, to police it was a different matter.
:15:20. > :15:24.You are aware, Mr Grant, aren't you, of a number of outstanding debts?
:15:24. > :15:26.No comment. You've tried to obtain money fraudulently from these
:15:26. > :15:35.holidaymakers, whilst knowing they would not be able to use the
:15:35. > :15:38.services of the villa and the facilities there. No comment.
:15:38. > :15:44.Mr and Mrs Grant maintained their not guilty plea right up to the day
:15:44. > :15:46.of the trial. What right did either of you have
:15:46. > :15:50.to fraudulently mislead these people that the villa was available
:15:50. > :15:56.for rent? No comment. Mrs Grant was questioned for a number of hours
:15:56. > :15:59.and never gave one answer to a single question. No comment.
:15:59. > :16:04.She chose, as is her right, of course, to reply "no comment" to
:16:04. > :16:09.all the questions put to her. December, at the Crown Court here
:16:09. > :16:12.in Guildford, at the 11th hour, the Grants had a change of heart.
:16:12. > :16:20.the last minute, pleaded guilty, so the actual trial did not go ahead,
:16:20. > :16:25.and then they were sentenced in December. I am glad they didn't get
:16:25. > :16:27.away with it in the end. They've been punished. He stated he was
:16:27. > :16:33.responsible for sending all of those e-mails, despite them being
:16:33. > :16:36.in Tracey's name. Because of that, Mr Grant was sentenced to 27
:16:36. > :16:45.months' imprisonment and Tracey Grant, his wife, was sentenced to 9
:16:45. > :16:48.months' imprisonment for their part in the fraud. I think, to be quite
:16:48. > :16:52.honest, it was just greed. They were living far beyond their means.
:16:52. > :16:57.They had no means of employment at the time, and their daughter was
:16:57. > :17:00.attending a private school. While the Grants are holidaying at Her
:17:00. > :17:04.Majesty's pleasure, it looks like their victims will only ever see a
:17:04. > :17:10.fraction of their money back. Meanwhile, there are lessons to be
:17:10. > :17:12.learned. To safeguard yourself, I think it is quite difficult in that
:17:12. > :17:15.environment. However, there is insurance out there, either through
:17:15. > :17:22.your bank account or through these companies that advertise, that
:17:22. > :17:25.specifically cover fraud advertising. So if this case
:17:25. > :17:28.happens, you are covered by your insurance company. Two to three
:17:28. > :17:33.people involved in this case have received their money back through
:17:33. > :17:36.their bank account or through this insurance scheme. I'm still in
:17:36. > :17:42.shock and disbelief that somebody could actually do that, and to
:17:42. > :17:49.think they can actually get away with it. I just don't think they
:17:49. > :17:52.realise how hurtful and disappointed people can be. Some of
:17:52. > :17:55.the websites offer an insurance policy and when people are booking
:17:55. > :17:58.a holiday for something like this, perhaps that is something they need
:17:58. > :18:04.to think about, to book the insurance with the website and that
:18:04. > :18:07.hopefully will protect them. really would think twice about
:18:07. > :18:15.using a private owner again. Although I have used private owners
:18:15. > :18:24.previous to this and everything's been OK. I suppose now it is a big
:18:24. > :18:27.Finally tonight, imagine getting a call to tell you that the body of
:18:27. > :18:31.one of your distant relatives has just been found. Someone, perhaps,
:18:31. > :18:41.who died nearly 100 years ago. Making that call is the job of a
:18:41. > :18:44.specialist unit with the Ministry Sue Raftree is in London. She's
:18:44. > :18:50.trying to find out about some men who died almost 100 years ago in
:18:50. > :18:53.northern France. I've come here to see the archivist at the Honourable
:18:53. > :19:01.Artillery Company, to discuss the remains of four soldiers that were
:19:01. > :19:04.found in Bullecourt in August 2009. These soldiers were killed in the
:19:04. > :19:07.First World War. Like many casualties, they were buried by
:19:07. > :19:13.their comrades near the battlefield where they died. Identifying them
:19:13. > :19:20.won't be easy. The identity discs were blown off the soldiers because
:19:20. > :19:24.they were not steel, as they are today. So therefore, it is very
:19:24. > :19:28.difficult. But we do establish - and have established in the past -
:19:28. > :19:32.personal identification of soldiers. We are very hopeful that this will
:19:32. > :19:36.happen in this instance. It's a typical case for Sue, who works for
:19:36. > :19:39.the MoD in Gloucestershire. When the remains of servicemen from the
:19:39. > :19:47.two world wars are discovered, it's her job to identify them, find
:19:47. > :19:49.relatives and arrange a military burial. Today, she is meeting
:19:50. > :19:52.regimental archivist Justine Taylor. We actually have a very kind
:19:52. > :19:58.volunteer in Antwerp who's compiled a list of Second Battalion members
:19:58. > :20:01.who died in the First World War. Justine's been very helpful and
:20:01. > :20:06.she's provided the war diary, lots of information, lots of very
:20:06. > :20:11.informative books. We know the heights of the four soldiers that
:20:11. > :20:17.have been found. I'm very excited. I've got to this stage where we may
:20:17. > :20:22.be able to identify somebody. excited, but she knows these things
:20:22. > :20:25.take time. Remains of some of the many thousands of war heroes still
:20:25. > :20:35.listed as missing, with no known grave, are found each year around
:20:35. > :20:36.
:20:36. > :20:40.the world. Some can be easier to identify than others. The wreckage
:20:40. > :20:44.of a British bomber's been found in Italy and thanks to detailed flight
:20:44. > :20:47.records, Sue knows exactly who was on board.
:20:47. > :20:55.BBC London 94.9. Robert Elms, weekdays from midday, and Saturday
:20:55. > :20:59.morning. It means another trip to London, this time for a radio
:20:59. > :21:02.appeal. Now, I know there's a case you're working on at the moment.
:21:02. > :21:09.Tell us a bit about that. About four months ago, a Boston aircraft
:21:09. > :21:12.BZ590 was found in Italy. Boston was on a reconnaissance
:21:12. > :21:17.mission when it was shot down in 1945, just weeks before the end of
:21:17. > :21:23.the war in Europe. The crew, including David Rakes and Alexander
:21:23. > :21:29.Bostock, all died. Their relatives have come forward, but Sue needs to
:21:29. > :21:34.find one other family. One that we need to find now is Flight Sgt
:21:34. > :21:39.David Millard-Perkins' family. that's why you're here today,
:21:39. > :21:42.because we might just be able to help. Sue will have to wait to see
:21:42. > :21:46.if anyone gets in touch, but when families do, they usually want to
:21:47. > :21:56.know much more. She's in Wiltshire, meeting relatives of a soldier
:21:57. > :21:59.
:21:59. > :22:04.whose remains have been found in the Midlands. -- Netherlands.
:22:04. > :22:07.to meet you. I'm June. And they've turned out in their numbers. For
:22:07. > :22:10.them, this is all about finding out what happened to the man who was
:22:10. > :22:14.lost but not forgotten. Right, then, well, thank you very much for
:22:14. > :22:18.coming today. I know you've come from a long way and I appreciate it
:22:18. > :22:22.very much. He was my gran's brother and she talked about him all the
:22:22. > :22:25.time. I was really little then. She died when I was about 10. But
:22:25. > :22:30.that's how I remember him. Being really important in her life,
:22:30. > :22:33.really. But it always felt like he was... You know, like I knew him. I
:22:33. > :22:36.still call him Uncle Lewis, you know? Even though he was my Great
:22:36. > :22:42.Uncle Lewis. Lewis Curtis from Cornwall was a member of the
:22:42. > :22:44.Wiltshire Regiment. He died in October 1944. His battalion had
:22:44. > :22:49.been advancing through Holland, but met fierce resistance from the
:22:49. > :22:54.Germans. Today, his family are learning about where he was
:22:54. > :23:00.discovered, and plans for his burial. So we are effectively
:23:00. > :23:04.looking at the first available opportunity being July onwards.
:23:04. > :23:09.There is a lot to take in, and if you just slowly absorb it, that's
:23:09. > :23:13.lovely. It certainly is a lot to take in. But for everyone, it has
:23:13. > :23:18.been a poignant day. This whole thing has been very emotional for
:23:18. > :23:22.all of us. Today has brought all of us together, as a family, you know?
:23:22. > :23:28.And we were saying that we very rarely get to get together these
:23:28. > :23:32.days. I feel very honoured to have met such a marvellous family, and
:23:32. > :23:38.to be part of such an exciting adventure that we're going to go on
:23:38. > :23:43.and that in the end, we can have closure for this family.
:23:43. > :23:47.One family close to getting that final closure. But what about Sue's
:23:47. > :23:49.other cases? It's now several weeks since her meeting with the
:23:49. > :23:56.regimental archivist in London about those First World War
:23:56. > :23:59.soldiers. So is there any news? Bullecourt, yes, we've done some
:23:59. > :24:06.more research with the archivist, and two of them have now been
:24:06. > :24:09.identified. Both were identified by artefacts - personal artefacts.
:24:09. > :24:14.Two soldiers identified, and now begins the task of tracking down
:24:14. > :24:18.the families. And that's not easy, as Sue is finding out on the Boston
:24:18. > :24:23.Bomber case. Unfortunately, that radio appeal hasn't had the impact
:24:23. > :24:26.she'd hoped. Regrettably, there were no callers regarding the
:24:26. > :24:32.identification of the family for Perkins, however we've now gone to
:24:32. > :24:38.the Commonwealth War Graves. They've put it on their website and
:24:38. > :24:42.we are now trying to trace him through other means.
:24:42. > :24:46.When Sue does manage to complete a case, it often ends a mystery that
:24:46. > :24:51.has haunted families for years. When Edward Hartley was killed, his
:24:51. > :24:55.loved ones knew he had died, but very little else. I think my mother
:24:55. > :24:58.must always have wondered what happened to Edward. He would have
:24:58. > :25:05.perhaps been the love of her life, so she must have wondered all the
:25:05. > :25:08.rest of her life - she lived to be 86 - what has happened to him.
:25:08. > :25:11.Lance Sgt Hartley died at Arnhem in Holland, during Operation Market
:25:11. > :25:21.Garden, the unsuccessful attempt by the Allies to force their way into
:25:21. > :25:21.
:25:21. > :25:24.Germany in 1944. His remains were identified seven years ago. Sue
:25:24. > :25:34.traced his daughter and she was guest of honour at a rededication
:25:34. > :25:43.
:25:43. > :25:50.It was really emotional. I think the kind of occasion where all the
:25:50. > :25:55.hairs stand up on the back of your neck. And you want to cry, as well,
:25:55. > :26:04.really. It was really very, very special. Probably one of the best
:26:04. > :26:07.days of my life. Yes, it was one of the best days of my life.
:26:07. > :26:12.So, Sue's work can end up meaning so much to the families these men
:26:12. > :26:16.left behind. She's back on the road again - this time in Hampshire. The
:26:16. > :26:22.relatives of one of the First World War soldiers has been in touch.
:26:22. > :26:25.family actually found me through the Great War Forum. They were
:26:25. > :26:33.looking at the website and came across that we were trying to trace
:26:33. > :26:40.the relatives of Capt Prichard. They contacted me, because I have a
:26:40. > :26:46.lot to do with the Great War Forum. It was very fortuitous that they
:26:46. > :26:51.were looking at that time. Hello, nice to meet you. Come in.
:26:51. > :26:56.We are pleased to see you. I can only remember as a very young boy...
:26:56. > :26:59.Londoner John Prichard died in May 1917. He was defending a position
:26:59. > :27:05.near the village of Bullecourt in northern France. His company was
:27:05. > :27:11.almost completely wiped out in the attack. 95 years on, his family
:27:11. > :27:16.were amazed to discover his remains had been found. I was shocked. When
:27:16. > :27:21.I first saw that they had found his body, it was a complete shock. And
:27:21. > :27:25.then I was ecstatic that we were very happy about that. I thought,
:27:25. > :27:28."I can't wait to tell the rest of the family". And, as my daughter
:27:28. > :27:33.says, it makes it really real. It has suddenly brought World War I
:27:33. > :27:39.right into your front room. You have a personal connection with it.
:27:39. > :27:46.And we feel incredibly honoured, as a family. We will be the people
:27:46. > :27:54.that finally lay this captain to rest. Another case drawing to a
:27:54. > :27:57.close. And there's good news on the Boston Bomber crew man, too. David
:27:57. > :28:00.Perkins' family has been in touch. Sue also hopes to start arranging
:28:00. > :28:04.his burial soon. It's very frustrating at times, because the
:28:04. > :28:08.work has to be very thoroughly investigated. There's only a team
:28:08. > :28:18.of two - my colleague and I - and we both find it very rewarding.
:28:18. > :28:18.
:28:18. > :28:25.It's an honour and a privilege to And that's just about all we've got
:28:25. > :28:29.time for. I'll see you next week. Me, Jamie, Lexus and Caley sleep on
:28:29. > :28:34.that dining room bit there. Children in poverty - the families
:28:34. > :28:39.coping on the breadline in 2012. this was another part of the world,
:28:39. > :28:43.the aid trucks would be heading out. But because it is our world, we