:00:07. > :00:16.Hello. Tonight we are on patrol with the volunteers providing vital
:00:16. > :00:21.support to the West Midlands ambulance service. There were
:00:21. > :00:28.around awful lot of poorly people yesterday. It will stop you getting
:00:28. > :00:34.glaucoma. Which would you choose? And the secret to live in 10 years
:00:34. > :00:41.longer. Does more wealth mean better health? Poorer people tend
:00:41. > :00:48.to buy the Paul Auster -- strong staff. The kids tend to get as much
:00:48. > :00:58.down their throat as they can for as much -- little money as possible.
:00:58. > :01:08.
:01:08. > :01:13.First tonight, it is being called the biggest reorganisation of the
:01:13. > :01:17.NHS since it started 65 years ago. It has been hugely controversial
:01:17. > :01:27.and it is costing billions of pounds. But what exactly will
:01:27. > :01:27.
:01:28. > :01:31.change when it happens in 10 weeks' time? This is lovely, madam,
:01:31. > :01:35.because this inhaler would actually go with your coat. And a free
:01:35. > :01:40.examination. Do you want to come here and cough, sir? I can give you
:01:40. > :01:43.those half price. Plus something for your water retention. I'm a GP.
:01:43. > :01:48.And today I'm taking healthcare into the community, where it's
:01:48. > :01:53.needed. All the sample bottles you could ever need and I'll throw in a
:01:53. > :01:57.crutch. It's all free. It's all paid for. This is what the biggest
:01:57. > :02:00.shake-up in the history of the NHS is all about - giving local doctors,
:02:00. > :02:06.nurses and patients the chance to call the shots and shop around for
:02:06. > :02:08.the best care. At least that's the Government's plan. But many doctors
:02:08. > :02:14.think the reforms are untested, expensive and over-complicated - a
:02:14. > :02:18.view I shared with the former health secretary Andrew Lansley.
:02:18. > :02:22.The difficulty with this is that it's 353 pages of wonk. It's
:02:22. > :02:26.absolutely impossible to understand it. I choose my words carefully. It
:02:26. > :02:29.is unreadable. What did you actually say? It's wonky. But I've
:02:29. > :02:33.been wading through the jargon, and it's clear the reforms will affect
:02:33. > :02:37.us all. It's vital we put politics aside and try to understand exactly
:02:37. > :02:41.what they'll mean for patients. Until now the NHS has been like a
:02:41. > :02:46.big supermarket chain that only sells its own brands. It's a one
:02:46. > :02:49.stop shop where all the tricky decisions are made for you. In
:02:49. > :02:59.theory, you should get the same high quality care whether you live
:02:59. > :03:02.in Scunthorpe or Southend. But like any monopoly, it's far from perfect.
:03:02. > :03:04.The Government's bringing in the market place model instead -
:03:04. > :03:12.introducing more choice and competition, and putting GPs in
:03:12. > :03:15.charge instead of civil servants. But will it work?
:03:15. > :03:20.So if I just check your eyes there... I can confirm you have two
:03:20. > :03:24.eyes. We're doing two X-rays for the price of one. And I can throw
:03:24. > :03:27.in a free brain scan if you like. One change we're told patients
:03:27. > :03:30.should notice is care much closer to home. Hospitals and GPs will
:03:30. > :03:33.have more freedom to bring in innovative ideas. Technology might
:03:33. > :03:38.monitor your health at home and routine surgery could be done at
:03:38. > :03:41.high street clinics. Hospitals in Gloucestershire have already teamed
:03:41. > :03:47.up with a charity to send this mobile chemotherapy unit into rural
:03:47. > :03:55.communities. For cancer patients like Graham Freeman, it's a
:03:55. > :03:59.lifeline. The concept is great, moving the treatment to the person.
:03:59. > :04:03.Because it is a bit of a trauma, suffering from the chemotherapy and
:04:03. > :04:13.the travelling. Bringing the treatment closer to the person is a
:04:13. > :04:13.
:04:13. > :04:18.lot better. You do feel a little bit better. But could this shift
:04:18. > :04:21.towards more localised care mean hospitals will have to close? To
:04:21. > :04:26.find out I've come to London, to one of the world's most respected
:04:26. > :04:29.independent think tanks on health policy - the King's Fund. I don't
:04:29. > :04:32.think we'll see many hospitals closing as a result of care coming
:04:32. > :04:34.closer to home. It will mean hospitals changing their roles,
:04:34. > :04:40.perhaps fewer A&E departments, fewer maternity services provided
:04:40. > :04:43.in existing hospitals. But that could be to the benefit of patients
:04:43. > :04:49.if we're able to plan that in the appropriate way and get better
:04:50. > :04:55.outcomes by concentrating those services in fewer hospitals.
:04:55. > :04:59.might not be keen though, if it's your A&E that's closing. The second
:04:59. > :05:05.thing patients should notice is more choice. Three tomatoes for �1!
:05:05. > :05:08.Anybody? Three inhalers for the price of two. Come and get them!
:05:08. > :05:12.Two caulies, �1.50 over there! We've got a separate queue here for
:05:12. > :05:16.six symptoms or less. Competition in the NHS isn't new, but the
:05:16. > :05:23.reforms step it up a notch. The NHS will become a marketplace, with
:05:23. > :05:26.private companies competing with the NHS for business. So when your
:05:26. > :05:33.GP says you need a scan, your options may look less like this,
:05:33. > :05:39.and more like this. But it should be quality, not price, that will
:05:39. > :05:41.decide which are allowed to offer care. It's already happening here
:05:41. > :05:50.on the high street, where Specsavers are treating NHS
:05:50. > :05:53.patients in 218 of its hearing centres. When I came to Specsavers,
:05:53. > :05:58.they do private and NHS, which I find is better than going to the
:05:58. > :06:03.hospital. You know you go to the hospital, there's a lot of
:06:03. > :06:10.travelling and I don't think you get such a personal attention. So
:06:10. > :06:14.this is much, much better. When you press the button in, you'll hear
:06:14. > :06:17.two beeps which will allow you to use the telephone then. The plan is
:06:17. > :06:19.for patients like Doreen to choose their provider by looking at new
:06:19. > :06:24.performance league tables. But companies must play by the rules
:06:24. > :06:28.and can't encourage NHS patients to go private. Ultimately, Specsavers
:06:28. > :06:32.want to protect the NHS work that we've managed to gain here and we
:06:32. > :06:35.don't want to do anything to try and jeopardise that. We're not
:06:35. > :06:45.going to try and sell a hearing aid, upsell a patient at all during that
:06:45. > :06:46.
:06:46. > :06:49.time. Market competition could drive up standards and lower costs.
:06:49. > :06:52.But if profits slip, companies could pull out or even go under,
:06:52. > :06:57.leaving patients in the lurch. Remember the collapse of Northern
:06:58. > :07:01.Rock? Imagine if customers had been queuing not for their life savings
:07:01. > :07:03.but for life-saving surgery. there is going to be a bigger role
:07:04. > :07:06.for private companies in delivering care to patients, then there is
:07:06. > :07:09.always a possibility, however remote, that that company will not
:07:09. > :07:12.be successful, that we will see something like Northern Rock in
:07:12. > :07:14.healthcare. The Government's anticipating that. It's putting in
:07:14. > :07:17.place what's called a "failure regime" so that the regulator can
:07:17. > :07:23.intervene and ensure continuity of services even if the organisations
:07:23. > :07:27.are not providing care to the right standard. The third thing patients
:07:27. > :07:31.may notice is a shift in their relationship with their GP. So if I
:07:31. > :07:36.said, "Trust me, I know the best place to go to get your heart
:07:36. > :07:42.surgery." Would you say, "Yeah, you're the doctor. Dr Phil, you
:07:42. > :07:45.look like a ginger George Clooney. I love, I trust you."? Since the
:07:45. > :07:49.birth of the NHS, doctors have taken the trust of patients for
:07:49. > :07:53.granted. But as GPs offer more and more treatments, they could find
:07:53. > :07:56.themselves referring patients to their own services. Add private
:07:56. > :08:03.companies into the mix and there's real scope for a conflict of
:08:03. > :08:08.interest. So just open really wide. Say "ahh." Ahh. That's great, thank
:08:08. > :08:12.you. But should we really be worried? In Bath, Jasmine Bishop is
:08:12. > :08:15.seeing a GP on the NHS. But believe it or not, he actually works for
:08:15. > :08:19.Virgin. Yup - they of planes, trains and super-fast broadband
:08:19. > :08:23.fame also run this walk-in centre, along with 170 other NHS services...
:08:23. > :08:27.Although you wouldn't know it from the branding. As Virgin takes over
:08:27. > :08:30.more of the NHS, what's to stop you referring patients on to another
:08:30. > :08:35.Virgin service to make money for the company, rather than in the
:08:35. > :08:38.best interests of the patient? of our GPs, like any GP in the
:08:38. > :08:44.country, have to offer patients a choice when they're being referred
:08:44. > :08:49.for another service. So in the end, it's down to the patient to choose
:08:49. > :08:51.where they go. And of course, GPs and other clinical staff have a
:08:51. > :08:56.professional responsibility too to make sure that they're finding the
:08:56. > :09:02.best care for their patients. That doesn't differ because those GPs
:09:02. > :09:06.are employed by us. And you have to ask if patients really mind who
:09:06. > :09:10.provides their care. Did you know that this health centre was run by
:09:10. > :09:15.Virgin? No. Would it make any difference to you as a patient
:09:15. > :09:19.whether it's run by an ordinary NHS GP or a private company? No. So all
:09:19. > :09:22.that matters to you is what? What do you care about in your
:09:22. > :09:26.treatment? That I get the best treatment I possibly can get really.
:09:26. > :09:30.Which of these sample bottles would you like, madam? We've got three on
:09:30. > :09:34.choice today. The bottom line is that if you have a good idea to
:09:34. > :09:38.improve your care, tell your GP. If he or she can make it happen, we
:09:38. > :09:42.know the reforms are working. It's been a huge upheaval just to get
:09:42. > :09:46.the NHS to listen to patients. And I hope for all our sakes it works.
:09:46. > :09:56.I can't lug all this back again. Come on, it's got to go today. Last
:09:56. > :10:02.
:10:02. > :10:05.chance! With changes in how we by health
:10:05. > :10:12.provision is -- comes the hope that some of those age-old conditions
:10:12. > :10:17.will be fixed. Things like alcohol abuse, obesity and smoking. We all
:10:17. > :10:21.know what is bad for us but we just keep on doing it. In Portsmouth,
:10:21. > :10:26.for decades, healthcare professionals have been trying to
:10:26. > :10:29.work out a problem which just as not seem fair. Why people who are
:10:29. > :10:33.less wealthy died much earlier than those just over the road with a bit
:10:34. > :10:39.more money. Louisa Bennett is a mother of two
:10:39. > :10:42.lively children and she's expecting a third. She does her best on a low
:10:42. > :10:47.income and benefits, but there's a problem. She has diabetes, often
:10:47. > :10:57.caused poor diet and lack of exercise. It's putting her and her
:10:57. > :10:59.
:10:59. > :11:02.unborn baby at risk. I am 38 weeks pregnant but obviously because I
:11:02. > :11:06.have type 2 diabetes, I am going in tomorrow to be induced early
:11:07. > :11:12.because obviously I have got quite a big baby. I am getting very
:11:12. > :11:17.nervous but I cannot wait to meet him. With each pregnancy I have had,
:11:18. > :11:21.I have then had to have insulin through my pregnancy. I have to
:11:21. > :11:27.inject myself three times a day and also check my blood sugar levels.
:11:27. > :11:34.Any normal pregnancy, you're only go to see the midwife sort of five
:11:34. > :11:38.times throughout your pregnancy. Whereas I have to go to the
:11:38. > :11:44.hospital every fortnight to see the diabetic team. And every four weeks
:11:44. > :11:47.to be scanned. Steve has other problems. He needs to lose 12 stone.
:11:47. > :11:51.That's half his body weight. In Portsmouth, if you're overweight
:11:51. > :12:01.and live in a poor area, you are likely to die ten years sooner than
:12:01. > :12:02.
:12:02. > :12:12.your rich neighbours. I have always been big. I have always been the
:12:12. > :12:18.
:12:18. > :12:23.size really. This is the bigger -- I am not really a big eater. I
:12:23. > :12:32.cannot eat three curries. I'd pick foot through the day and I drink
:12:32. > :12:38.quite a bit of a cult. 15 pts quite easily which does not help. Hello
:12:39. > :12:44.the road in Portsmouth. Food shops are everywhere. -- London Road.
:12:44. > :12:48.This is where you shop for yourself and your children. In it is easy to
:12:48. > :12:53.give your children chocolate and crisps. They have got to have that
:12:53. > :13:01.in their diet even though it is not ideal. Do not give them this and
:13:02. > :13:10.that... People do not. It is about their kids. In many deprived areas,
:13:10. > :13:17.health problems are passed down generations. What was it? Lung
:13:17. > :13:23.disease, but I have had none at all. It's just carries on and you do
:13:23. > :13:30.what you want to do. I do smoke but not as much as he smokes. I do not
:13:30. > :13:37.want too much stress at the moment. But I do smoke because it is easier
:13:37. > :13:44.than not it's making. Hello life is stressful. We have both got young
:13:44. > :13:49.kids. I think it is important that you do get something for yourself
:13:49. > :13:54.at the end of it. I think a cigarette every now and then is not
:13:54. > :14:00.the end of the world. Everybody has got a choice about what to eat and
:14:00. > :14:05.drink. But money is tight and fast food is cheap and it is easy to
:14:05. > :14:09.make unhealthy choices. The new GP group in Portsmouth said that
:14:09. > :14:15.living in poor areas does push people into making dangerous
:14:15. > :14:20.decisions. Especially in Portsmouth, low income affects the way in which
:14:20. > :14:28.people access services. It is not just help but they behave
:14:28. > :14:32.differently. It is different. Some people in lower social and economic
:14:32. > :14:37.groups drink and smoke more and their diets might not be what we
:14:37. > :14:42.would want. And also the environment in which they live is
:14:42. > :14:51.challenging. That is the housing side of things and also aspects of
:14:51. > :14:59.their education. We tend to find patients in Portsmouth where public
:14:59. > :15:05.-- the public ignore symptoms. But also, maybe because of their need
:15:05. > :15:09.to carry on working and providing for family, as a result of that,
:15:09. > :15:15.when they present the conditions that we are presented with, they
:15:15. > :15:23.are more advanced. Especially conditions such as cancer. That
:15:23. > :15:27.tends to be at a more advanced state and challenging to treat.
:15:27. > :15:32.Louisa is at the Queen Alexandra Hospital. She is being induced
:15:32. > :15:38.because of her diabetes. It means that there should as might be
:15:38. > :15:42.raised during pregnancy. If there sugars are raised it will affect
:15:42. > :15:47.the baby and they are likely to put on more weight on the trunk of the
:15:47. > :15:52.body, including extra padding around the shoulders and stomach.
:15:52. > :16:01.This can make for difficult deliveries. The shoulders can get
:16:01. > :16:04.stuck or a difficult delivery with a Caesarean section. A Because I am
:16:04. > :16:11.eating so much and diabetes as well is generally for larger people
:16:11. > :16:17.anyway... Obviously if I looked back at my time now, eating
:16:17. > :16:20.healthier back then, you know, are quite would not have been so big. I
:16:20. > :16:28.would have exercised more and not been as big. I would have
:16:28. > :16:35.definitely changed my lifestyle. Drinking lots of the air, going to
:16:36. > :16:41.the kebab shop on by way home. I was not healthy at all. There was a
:16:41. > :16:45.time when I could not even run properly, after having children. It
:16:45. > :16:50.is not what you want for your family. You want to be able to go
:16:50. > :16:57.out and play with them and be a mother. I am losing weight and I am
:16:58. > :17:03.going to continue doing that. notice that type one is pretty
:17:03. > :17:10.static. We have not had any big increases with type 1 diabetes with
:17:10. > :17:20.ladies. We have definitely noticed an increase in typed it. And these
:17:20. > :17:20.
:17:20. > :17:26.are ladies under 45. -- type two. We should not be seeing that and we
:17:26. > :17:35.are. Some times, three generations of the same family are getting
:17:35. > :17:39.diabetes, one after each other and diet is usually to blame. Steve
:17:39. > :17:43.Nelson's days of eating too much are about to come to an end. He is
:17:43. > :17:48.having an operation to shrink his stomach and it will cost the NHS
:17:48. > :17:55.�10,000. If it works it will pay for itself in three years as his
:17:55. > :17:58.health improves. Today's I am doing an operation which should help him
:17:58. > :18:07.Roose significant weight. His weight has become a real problem
:18:07. > :18:16.for him. -- Louis significant weight. -- get rid of. He knows he
:18:16. > :18:26.has to lose weight. Surgery is the only way that is going to happen.
:18:26. > :18:29.
:18:29. > :18:39.am overweight. I am down as being overweight. In 2000 I had pneumonia
:18:39. > :18:41.and was taken to hospital. I have not smoked since 2000. I had a
:18:41. > :18:51.problem with my lung which came from pneumonia and being laid up in
:18:51. > :18:54.
:18:54. > :18:59.bed. It was a bit of a shock and it scares me a bit. A unfortunately,
:18:59. > :19:06.as a country and as a society, we are facing an increase in obesity
:19:07. > :19:10.severe enough to cause illness. And while prevention has to be the main
:19:10. > :19:15.thrust, unless we treat the people that have found themselves in the
:19:15. > :19:19.obesity trap, we will not make headway and the NHS will always be
:19:19. > :19:23.under pressure from people with illness caused by their weight.
:19:23. > :19:30.That goes along with social and economic class and access to good
:19:30. > :19:35.food and good habits. What I am going to do is I am going to take
:19:35. > :19:41.what should be going into your stomach and create a short cut so
:19:41. > :19:45.that the food goes straight into his intestine. Unfortunately, it
:19:45. > :19:53.means I am operating on a perfectly normal digest its system in order
:19:53. > :19:56.to stop people eating. About half of obese patients have lost their
:19:56. > :20:06.jobs because they are so big and three-quarters come from low-income
:20:06. > :20:07.
:20:07. > :20:12.families. He is now doing to hand and 50 operations per year. -- 250.
:20:12. > :20:17.I'm wish I did not have to do that. But it is the only thing that works
:20:17. > :20:27.for people severely overweight and there are more each year. He is
:20:27. > :20:31.reducing his stomach from the size of a melon to the size of an egg.
:20:31. > :20:37.Alcohol, all social classes drink it but you are four times more
:20:37. > :20:40.likely to die from it if you are poor. Cliftons is well known in
:20:40. > :20:49.Portsmouth and he is dancing with the cheapest alcohol that he can
:20:49. > :20:59.buy. I am happy with no alcohol. Alcohol is nothing. It ruins my
:20:59. > :21:01.
:21:01. > :21:10.life and it ruins eternity. I have had alcohol for 26 years. It is not
:21:10. > :21:20.in my family. I am the alcoholic! I do not need alcohol! I am addicted.
:21:20. > :21:24.
:21:24. > :21:29.White cider is a popular drink. There is almost as much alcohol in
:21:29. > :21:34.three litres as in a bottle of vodka. It is a very high-strength
:21:34. > :21:39.cider and we have got high-strength lagers and it varies. The poorest
:21:39. > :21:43.people tend to by the strong drinks and other people by strong drinks
:21:43. > :21:49.as well because of stress and the children get as much as they can
:21:49. > :21:57.for as little as possible. You can buy a couple of bottles for as low
:21:57. > :22:02.as �2.50 and a 1 litre bottle for one pound 59p. Very cheap.
:22:02. > :22:09.river bus has turned up to offer free scams but it is often not be
:22:09. > :22:17.able that they need to reach that turn up. -- the liver baas has
:22:17. > :22:22.turned up for free scanning. More people die of liver disease in
:22:22. > :22:26.Portsmouth than almost anywhere else in the country. The main thing
:22:26. > :22:30.we try to do is make people aware that it is important to keep your
:22:30. > :22:35.liver healthy. We have got increasing liver disease in this
:22:35. > :22:45.country and more people are dying of liver cancer and related issues.
:22:45. > :22:45.
:22:45. > :22:52.We are trying to change that. not going to hurt... It is not
:22:52. > :22:58.invasive. It takes a few moments. It is like an ultrasound. It shows
:22:58. > :23:01.when the liver is scarred and damaged. The amount of drinking is
:23:01. > :23:08.what could be considered a harmful level and it could endanger your
:23:08. > :23:17.help. As a step is advice on how to keep your leather healthy. It does
:23:17. > :23:22.not seem to be damaging your liver. Especially keep away from saturated
:23:22. > :23:28.fat and look at carbohydrates. If like myself you are a bit
:23:28. > :23:33.overweight you can start to reduce that. Likewise with alcohol, people
:23:33. > :23:38.might be buying some of the cheaper alcoholic drinks, certainly some of
:23:38. > :23:44.the cheap cider and lager, they are eight big issue, because they are
:23:44. > :23:48.packed full of units. Consultant Richard Aspinall sees many people
:23:48. > :23:56.with liver damage. On average they drink nine bottles of vodka every
:23:56. > :24:00.week, or 20 bottles of wine. Just 10% of them have jobs. For some
:24:00. > :24:04.people it is about getting away from alcohol. You have got them
:24:04. > :24:09.advertised on billboards and bust shelters and buses driving past and
:24:09. > :24:13.it is in every convenience store and petrol station and if you turn
:24:13. > :24:20.on your television, all set operas are centred around a pub at
:24:20. > :24:24.lunchtime. And I turned on my radio on the weighty work this morning at
:24:24. > :24:30.half past six and we had an advert for cider and it is impossible to
:24:30. > :24:37.get away crumpet. We must be aware about the -- it is impossible to
:24:37. > :24:44.get away from it. The youngsters drink these and they are very
:24:44. > :24:49.strong. They drop them inside drinks, these sized classes in a
:24:49. > :24:56.pint and knock it down. It is binge drinking. It is not my generation
:24:56. > :25:00.at all. It has definitely changed. These are very popular. The
:25:01. > :25:05.youngsters are not drinking because they liked the taste of it. They
:25:05. > :25:10.are drinking it because they want to get drunk. It is as simple as
:25:10. > :25:14.that and that is why the market is full of these new shops and that
:25:14. > :25:24.sort of things with different coloured fibres, mint, hazelnut, it
:25:24. > :25:30.takes that Labour out of the drink. -- flavour. I had got people that I
:25:30. > :25:37.drank and some people are trying to make a living. I am not saying that
:25:37. > :25:43.it is right that people did that but it is not my place to police it.
:25:43. > :25:48.Without a doubt it is strong alcoholic staff causing problems.
:25:48. > :25:52.Interestingly up in Suffolk they have got a scheme asking all off-
:25:52. > :26:02.licences in a certain area to take certain drinks away from shells of
:26:02. > :26:03.
:26:03. > :26:11.and terribly. I think they found out that out of 120 off-licence
:26:11. > :26:15.shops, 80 agreed. I think that is a great way forward. It are I was
:26:16. > :26:20.told to stop selling a certain type of drink and everybody agreed, that
:26:20. > :26:25.would be fine but you cannot have 10 people doing it and 20 not doing
:26:25. > :26:31.it. That would be great. The end NHS is changing but the challenge
:26:31. > :26:35.of low income as and poor health is not. At the end of the day we have
:26:35. > :26:41.to appreciate people have a choice. People can choose to do the wrong
:26:41. > :26:49.thing but we have to get them the opportunity to do the right thing.
:26:49. > :26:53.Louisa has had her baby. Jack weighed almost �10 and had problems
:26:53. > :26:58.with his breathing and was taken straight To neonatal care and 10
:26:58. > :27:03.days later she left hospital without him. It was not nice him
:27:03. > :27:07.being taken away from me but he is in the best place and I feel fine.
:27:07. > :27:17.As long as he is being looked after that is my main concern and he will
:27:17. > :27:20.be home I hope in 80 days. -- in a few days. He is operation was
:27:20. > :27:27.successful and his small stomach means he will be on a strict diet
:27:27. > :27:37.for the rest of his life. A couple of spoonfuls of porridge. 1
:27:37. > :27:42.teaspoon of yoghurt, for Breakfast. Totally filled up. They make time
:27:42. > :27:50.for exercise. Mashed potato and gravy, three spoonfuls and I felt
:27:50. > :27:55.bloated but builders do not. Maybe it is a class thing. Maybe it is
:27:55. > :28:00.when he won on a nice job and it is part of your lifestyle to go to the
:28:00. > :28:08.gymnasium and had a flash car. But council estate people, it is not
:28:08. > :28:12.part of their lifestyle. It is going down to the park. And if you
:28:12. > :28:17.are thinking of changing your life and becoming healthier this year I
:28:17. > :28:25.would like to hear from you. We are looking to hear from a ball that
:28:25. > :28:32.are cutting back on cigarettes, alcohol, or kebabs. Contact me...
:28:32. > :28:36.That is it for now. I will see you next time. Next week, a crash
:28:37. > :28:44.course in the classics for one group of children. Its 200 years