:00:07. > :00:12.Hello from Dorchester and welcome to Inside Out. Plenty on the
:00:12. > :00:18.programme tonight. Coming up: the Dorset man banged up in Budapest
:00:18. > :00:22.but without being charged. How just is the justice system abroad?
:00:22. > :00:28.danger for all of us who are citizens of the United Kingdom is
:00:28. > :00:31.that we are all open to a prosecutor in an eastern European
:00:31. > :00:37.country. The protections for the individual that we in Britain take
:00:38. > :00:42.for granted disappear. Run down and closed how communities
:00:42. > :00:47.across the self are refusing to call time on their parts. They do
:00:47. > :00:50.not want to save them they want to buy them. For the first time I have
:00:50. > :00:57.suddenly felt a real community spirit that I have never felt
:00:57. > :01:01.before. An Thomas Hardy expert Tony walks
:01:01. > :01:11.fruit Wessex meeting modern-day versions of hardy's best loved
:01:11. > :01:16.
:01:16. > :01:20.characters. I must admit I never read any of his books. I have
:01:20. > :01:26.watched far from the madding crowd which I loved because of the
:01:26. > :01:36.landscape, the sheep and the shepherd character. This is Inside
:01:36. > :01:48.
:01:48. > :01:53.First tonight, European arrest warrants. It is supposed to be a
:01:53. > :01:58.fast-track way of getting one person from one European country to
:01:58. > :02:06.another in order to stand trial or serve a prison sentence, but as one
:02:06. > :02:12.man has found a, Darryl concerns of the system itself is being misused.
:02:12. > :02:16.Budapest, November last year. Michael Turner and his ex business
:02:16. > :02:20.partner Jason McGoldrick have been found guilty of fraud. Allegations
:02:20. > :02:24.they deny. Summing up, the judge says although guilty they are not
:02:24. > :02:29.criminals and should not have a criminal record. This case has
:02:29. > :02:33.taken seven years to reach court, for months of which Michael and
:02:33. > :02:37.Dixon were locked away in an ex KGB prison without being charged under
:02:37. > :02:43.the powers of the European Arrest Warrant. Treatment the campaigners
:02:43. > :02:47.believe more appropriate for terrorists, murderers and rapists.
:02:47. > :02:53.It is a completely inappropriate use of the European arrest warrants.
:02:53. > :02:56.The danger for us is that we are all open to a prosecutor in an
:02:56. > :03:06.eastern European country. The protections for the individual that
:03:06. > :03:13.
:03:13. > :03:17.we take for granted here all disappear. Six months ago at the
:03:17. > :03:21.Castle Inn. The landlord is raising money for his son's continuing
:03:21. > :03:25.legal battle. Seven years earlier, Mike and Jason were running a
:03:25. > :03:30.marketing company in Hungary called Dream Espana, offering holidays in
:03:30. > :03:36.the Canary Islands. After two years of trading, the company collapsed
:03:36. > :03:39.leaving behind a debt of �18,000. They say they returned to the UK
:03:39. > :03:43.under the impression they had followed all of the legal
:03:44. > :03:50.requirements of winding down the business. Three years ago, their
:03:50. > :03:56.story took a remarkable turn. when on holiday with my wife to
:03:56. > :04:06.Monaco. She was heavily pregnant at the time. We arrived back in the UK
:04:06. > :04:08.
:04:08. > :04:13.after a fantastic time and at passport control, they arrested me.
:04:13. > :04:20.I got a phone call from Jason who rang me and said that there is a
:04:20. > :04:26.European Arrest Warrant out in your name. Shocked certain straight away.
:04:26. > :04:32.What is this? You instantly think in the men at a policeman will
:04:32. > :04:37.arrests may. A I had never heard of the European Arrest Warrant. I
:04:37. > :04:42.thought why would they want to arrest Michael? The European Arrest
:04:42. > :04:48.Warrant was intended to be used explicitly to extradite people to
:04:48. > :04:52.serve a prison sentence or for the purposes of a criminal prosecution.
:04:52. > :04:59.But in Michael and Jason's case, a warrant had been served even though
:04:59. > :05:02.no decision had yet been made to prosecute. In 2001, the man lost a
:05:03. > :05:09.High Court battle to avoid extradition and had no choice but
:05:09. > :05:13.to hand themselves over. One and we got here Gatwick and we met the
:05:13. > :05:20.Hungarian authorities, that is when the nightmare began. It was one of
:05:20. > :05:27.the darkest days of my life. They wanted to search us and handcuff us,
:05:27. > :05:31.which they did. They believed and so did the police when we arrived
:05:31. > :05:36.on the other side, they believed we had been caught and handed over.
:05:36. > :05:41.They were prepared as if they were taking back desperate criminals.
:05:41. > :05:46.When they realised they were cameras present, the Hungarian
:05:46. > :05:52.officers took out balaclavas to cover their faces. We were
:05:52. > :05:57.surrounded by dozens of armed police officers with dogs who
:05:57. > :06:04.cordoned off the entire section of the airport. We sat at the back of
:06:04. > :06:14.a plane. It was cordoned off. We were told not to speak one word. It
:06:14. > :06:16.
:06:16. > :06:21.was not a nice situation. We were attached with a dog lead each and
:06:21. > :06:28.paraded through all of the travellers on holidaymakers waiting
:06:28. > :06:36.for their luggage. That will always stick out in my mind because it was
:06:36. > :06:43.terrifying and embarrassing. That is when it all sank in that we knew
:06:43. > :06:51.we had handed ourselves over but there was no transfer of trust. As
:06:51. > :06:59.soon as we got to Hungary we were caught criminals. It was quite a
:06:59. > :07:04.horrible feeling. We have concerns about the decision to use these
:07:04. > :07:08.extradition proceedings against Michael and Jason. It seems to us
:07:08. > :07:12.incredibly disproportionate for such minor allegations to go to the
:07:12. > :07:16.cost and put people through the ordeal of extradition proceedings,
:07:16. > :07:20.being shipped off to a foreign country and they have should have
:07:20. > :07:24.used other British things such as working with the police.
:07:24. > :07:32.Rather than being questioned, Mike and Jason were separated and locked
:07:32. > :07:37.up. We were taken to a police holding cell in the heart of the
:07:37. > :07:47.city and locked away in a very dark room with no ventilation, no taps,
:07:47. > :07:52.
:07:52. > :07:59.no toilet for three days separately. I think the first day was pretty
:07:59. > :08:04.low. We were refused a telephone call home, and they tried to get
:08:04. > :08:10.asked to sign paperwork when we arrived and we refused without our
:08:10. > :08:15.lawyer. It was a very tough situation. Are I was given
:08:15. > :08:19.assurances by the lead officer from Hungary that an Interpol officer, I
:08:19. > :08:23.was given assurances that when they got too hungry they would be able
:08:23. > :08:31.to phone straight away and let you know where they were. That is their
:08:32. > :08:35.right, they insisted. That did not happen. We had nothing. A I did not
:08:36. > :08:41.understand what the extradition, what the European Arrest Warrant
:08:41. > :08:46.requested from us. I believed at that time that I was going to spend
:08:46. > :08:51.two-23 years in that one room without seeing the outside world.
:08:51. > :08:55.No contact with anyone, but was the worst moment. Three days later,
:08:55. > :08:59.they were taken to court where they assumed they would be released on
:08:59. > :09:04.bail but the judge thought differently. Instead they were
:09:04. > :09:13.transferred to a former KGB high- security prison while their case
:09:13. > :09:20.was investigated. We arrived at 3 o'clock in the morning. We saw the
:09:20. > :09:28.room and we think, is the bucket the toilet? You really are lost.
:09:28. > :09:32.was so small it was ridiculous. Just a square room. No room to move.
:09:32. > :09:37.No room at all. My core and Jason did not need to be put in prison
:09:37. > :09:42.but they certainly did not to be put in those appalling conditions.
:09:42. > :09:46.Being locked in your cell for 23 hours a day is up inhuman. They did
:09:46. > :09:50.not pose any danger to other prisoners. You do start to lose
:09:50. > :09:55.your marbles because you have nothing to do. It is shocking to
:09:55. > :10:00.the system. That is why some countries use pre-trial detention
:10:00. > :10:05.as a way to persuade people to plead guilty and you can't help to
:10:05. > :10:11.suspect that was the intention here. Constant noise, a constant
:10:11. > :10:18.screaming, shouting. You could hear guards are beating people. It was
:10:18. > :10:25.just an awful place. Awful, awful place. There was a fictional
:10:25. > :10:29.character that was bandied about the prison. It was a guy who was
:10:29. > :10:35.going to get you and they used to taunt me with this fictional
:10:35. > :10:40.character all the time. High had to think, next week, I am getting out.
:10:40. > :10:46.In the next few days something will happen and I will get out. Michael
:10:46. > :10:50.and Jason were eventually released from prison after 115 days without
:10:50. > :10:55.charge. Two years later the trial has finally finished and the guilty
:10:55. > :11:01.verdict is sinking in. A I am deeply shocked by the decision
:11:01. > :11:06.today by the judge. A little bit confused because everything is done
:11:06. > :11:14.in Hungarian so why do not know the exact details of his summing up but
:11:14. > :11:17.I have three days to consider whether I will appeal the decision.
:11:17. > :11:22.Michael did decide to appeal despite the judge stating the man
:11:22. > :11:28.were not to be seen as criminals, he is determined to clear his name.
:11:28. > :11:32.It in the UK if the case were to be brought at all it would come up in
:11:32. > :11:35.the small claims court. The real issue is the misuse of the European
:11:35. > :11:40.Arrest Warrant. The Hungarian Authority said everything had been
:11:40. > :11:45.done by the book and neither man had complained during their
:11:45. > :11:49.detention. I think it is cases like this which really gets the
:11:49. > :11:52.politicians to focus on the laws they are signing up to and I hope
:11:52. > :11:56.the terrible experience that these men have been through all
:11:56. > :12:06.demonstrate the need to fax our extradition laws because people
:12:06. > :12:12.
:12:12. > :12:18.should not be put through the Don't forget, if you have this
:12:18. > :12:23.story you want us to look into, please drop as any meal. Pubs in
:12:23. > :12:28.this out there having a rough time. Sadly, hundreds more are expected
:12:28. > :12:38.to close in the next year. Not all communities are prepared for time
:12:38. > :12:48.to be called. They want to buy at pts. The one to buy their pub. --
:12:48. > :12:50.
:12:50. > :12:53.they want to. Nowadays, this is an all too common a sight. Pubs run
:12:53. > :12:55.down and closed, looking like they can't possibly have a viable future.
:12:55. > :12:58.Like the Tumbledown Dick in Farnborough, which has definitely
:12:58. > :13:01.seen better days. Situated on the main route from Portsmouth to
:13:01. > :13:04.London, it's been a coaching inn and pub for hundreds of years. In
:13:04. > :13:08.more recent years, up and coming bands like the Jam played gigs here.
:13:08. > :13:12.But it's been closed for five years and now the owners are selling it.
:13:12. > :13:15.This much-loved watering hole may soon be another burger bar. But in
:13:15. > :13:25.Farnborough they don't give up so easily and the locals aren't
:13:25. > :13:35.
:13:35. > :13:37.letting their pub go without a fight. For the first time in my
:13:37. > :13:43.before. This pub has been part of our heritage since Farnborough was
:13:43. > :13:46.built. Every generation feel an attachment to it. It was Fran
:13:46. > :13:49.Beauchamp who started the campaign to save the pub and says she now
:13:49. > :13:57.has 3,000 supporters determined not let it into another fast food
:13:57. > :14:02.restaurant. You only need to look around and see what the town looks
:14:02. > :14:12.like, and it is depressing. We pay a lot of money to live in this area
:14:12. > :14:13.
:14:13. > :14:23.and there was nothing for anyone to do. Generations of her family have
:14:23. > :14:26.
:14:26. > :14:31.gone there. We love the place. It was like a second home. You go in
:14:31. > :14:34.there and it is like a big lounge full of all your friends. Scott
:14:34. > :14:42.Fitzpatrick even met his wife at the Tumbledown Dick and their baby,
:14:42. > :14:44.Brook, has joined them on the demo. We both held that the so close to
:14:45. > :14:54.our hearts and that that was still open it would have been our choice
:14:55. > :15:06.
:15:06. > :15:11.for going back after the wedding for the party. Pubs have been hit
:15:11. > :15:20.by a Perfect Storm. Competition from the supermarkets who sell much
:15:20. > :15:26.cheaper alcohol. The smoking ban. Less in comes in families. And so
:15:26. > :15:28.these tied arrangements between their pubs and the brewers.
:15:28. > :15:32.it's not over yet for the Tumbledown Dick. The campaigners
:15:32. > :15:35.want to make an alternative bid to McDonalds and run the pub as a
:15:35. > :15:38.community venue. So, they've asked the council to list it as an asset
:15:38. > :15:46.of community value, which could help their cause, but will it be
:15:46. > :15:49.listed? This is the Seven Stars in Marsh Baldon in Oxfordshire. When
:15:49. > :15:52.it closed the villagers decided they wanted to save it. Luckily for
:15:52. > :15:58.them, the owner was happy to sell it at a price they could afford,
:15:58. > :16:08.just over �250,000. Everyone here put their hands in their pockets to
:16:08. > :16:09.
:16:09. > :16:14.help buy their pub. We felt it was much more likely to do well if the
:16:14. > :16:17.Community were involved, if everyone pitched in. It is the
:16:18. > :16:22.heart of the village. It is were everybody meets an comes together.
:16:22. > :16:27.It is lovely walking in here on a Friday night, it is like walking
:16:27. > :16:31.into a big party. The community is so diverse and it has brought
:16:31. > :16:39.everybody together. Everybody is on the same page and wants to get it
:16:39. > :16:46.open. The village has formed what essentially is a community company.
:16:47. > :16:52.Anyone can invest anything from �300 to �20,000. You might get a 2%
:16:52. > :16:58.return. The company then employs some to run the pub. Villagers
:16:58. > :17:04.believe getting the right landlord will be the key to its success..
:17:04. > :17:09.You need someone who has a smiling face, and says, do you want your
:17:09. > :17:11.usual? I think most villagers would like that. Things are moving very
:17:11. > :17:14.fast. They're already interviewing prospective landlords. In two
:17:14. > :17:19.weeks' time, the villagers hope to be the proud owners of the Seven
:17:19. > :17:25.Stars. Communities saving their pub is something that's happening all
:17:25. > :17:29.over. This is the Plough just eight miles away in Great Hasely, and
:17:29. > :17:32.here the beer is flowing again. Over 120 villagers raised the
:17:32. > :17:38.�400,000 to buy it when it closed, so many of the drinkers here
:17:38. > :17:48.actually own shares in their pub. They won't get rich, but that's not
:17:48. > :17:53.what it's about. The people who put the money into the pub will not get
:17:53. > :17:59.a commercial return. You are making this Investment with your heart,
:17:59. > :18:02.not your head, because it will not give you a nice income. Peter says
:18:02. > :18:05.the knowledge they've built up is now a blueprint for other villages
:18:05. > :18:08.wanting to do the same Back in Farnborough, campaigners are still
:18:09. > :18:16.hoping they can save their pub. get two calls a week, asking how
:18:16. > :18:20.did you do it? A village near by has just bought their pub, and they
:18:20. > :18:26.used Oliver Documentation. I think we're all sharing the information
:18:26. > :18:33.and more and more people, more villagers, will get the opportunity
:18:33. > :18:36.to buy their pub. It has now been listed as a community asset, which
:18:36. > :18:45.means that if McDonalds don't get planning permission, they'll have
:18:45. > :18:51.six months to put in their own bid to buy it. Now the whole -- now the
:18:51. > :18:58.real hard work begins! We have to fund raised. This is about
:18:58. > :19:02.something new that Farnborough or has an experienced -- that
:19:02. > :19:08.Farnborough hasn't experienced very often, and that is the community
:19:08. > :19:13.spirit. This is going to be a building run by the community, for
:19:13. > :19:23.the community. As far as I am concerned, it is worth every bit of
:19:23. > :19:32.
:19:32. > :19:41.The don't forget, you can comment on anything on tonight's show on
:19:41. > :19:46.Twitter. Now, to cast a bridge, the very heart of hardy's Wessex. Watch
:19:46. > :19:52.this, and I guarantee you will want to be far from the Madding crowd
:19:52. > :20:02.exploring the famous countryside, just like Tony Fincham, at Thomas
:20:02. > :20:02.
:20:02. > :20:10.Hardy expert. 1967 and the hills of Dorset are alive with the film crew
:20:11. > :20:17.turning Thomas Hardy's best-known book into a classic. I have been
:20:17. > :20:23.passionate about Thomas Hardy all my life. When Farmer Oak smiled,
:20:23. > :20:30.the corners of his might spread to be were within an unimportant
:20:30. > :20:37.distance of his ears. His eyes were reduced to mere chinks. My
:20:37. > :20:41.grandfather was a founding member of the Hardy Society. For the past
:20:41. > :20:46.five years I have been German. That would like the introduce you to
:20:46. > :20:51.some of the people and places from Hardy's life and literature. We are
:20:51. > :21:01.starting in the obvious place, the cottage where he was born in June
:21:01. > :21:02.
:21:02. > :21:05.1840. I am going to take key for a walk through Hardy countryside. A
:21:05. > :21:12.journey will take us through the real places which inspired Thomas
:21:12. > :21:16.Hardy and we will meet the people living in his landscape now. First,
:21:16. > :21:22.is it generation shepherd Sue Elsworth, who lives alike straight
:21:22. > :21:26.out of a Hardy novel. I have never read any of his books. I watched
:21:26. > :21:32.Far From the Madding crowd, I love that film. I think it is because of
:21:32. > :21:37.the landscape, the sheep and the shepherd character. Other than that,
:21:37. > :21:41.I can't say that I have read any of his books. In Thomas Hardy's Day,
:21:41. > :21:48.they were 500,000 cheapen Dorset, now there are just a third of that
:21:48. > :21:53.number. I have always done freelance shepherding. They used a
:21:53. > :22:03.lamp for different people from November through to May. I haven't
:22:03. > :22:04.
:22:04. > :22:13.got enough sheep to live off them. There is no money in its. You do it
:22:13. > :22:21.for the love of it. That is all how it -- all I have done it for, ever.
:22:21. > :22:27.This is the situation where Thomas Hardy set one of his farms. Just
:22:27. > :22:36.close the here, their awesome drop pits. But is were Gabriel's sheep
:22:36. > :22:45.were chased. The landscape she is working in his little changed since
:22:45. > :22:55.Hardy wrote about it 140 years ago. No electric here! I suppose that is
:22:55. > :23:01.a bit like Thomas Hardy's days! I just love the sheep. I love working
:23:02. > :23:08.outdoors, no matter the weather. I like being on my own. Me and the
:23:08. > :23:17.dogs and sheep, I am happy. Thomas Hardy based his novels and poems on
:23:17. > :23:23.what he called his spark real, part dream landscape of Wessex. What I
:23:23. > :23:31.like about this area is this is the group that Thomas Hardy followed to
:23:31. > :23:37.school on to the town of Dorchester, which he renamed cast a bridge.
:23:37. > :23:41.Over the hill from here is Duck Dairy Farm. Hardy fans are
:23:41. > :23:48.constantly knocking on the door as if following his literary footsteps.
:23:48. > :23:53.I am delighted here to find a working stonemason, a real-life
:23:53. > :24:00.Jude the obscure. We have had visitors, people have called by
:24:00. > :24:10.looking for hardy's cottage up the road. So, they say, this is the
:24:10. > :24:10.
:24:10. > :24:17.dairy! They have to explain to us the history! Coming here from Kent,
:24:17. > :24:24.I had no idea about Thomas Hardy and the connection. Quite often a
:24:24. > :24:31.group of people will come round and tell us their history, and I think
:24:31. > :24:36.it is quite interesting for these people still to be out here
:24:36. > :24:41.carrying on. Earning a living the same way as a character from a 19th
:24:41. > :24:45.century novel was not easy then, and it certainly isn't now. Despite
:24:45. > :24:52.love and what we do, it is quite difficult to make a living. If
:24:52. > :24:57.you're wanting to stick with your hammer and chisel, it takes a lot
:24:57. > :25:07.longer. In the past, labour costs weren't so high so it didn't matter
:25:07. > :25:10.
:25:10. > :25:17.as much. I don't think a stonemason has ever been particularly rich!
:25:17. > :25:24.The words of the stonemason who taught him, ring in his ears.
:25:24. > :25:30.said, the couple who carved together, star of together! This
:25:30. > :25:35.estate is now an agricultural college, but in the day up Thomas
:25:35. > :25:40.Hardy it was the home of a beautiful dairy maid he took his
:25:40. > :25:48.fancy ants inspired Test of the Dervock bills. On from here we go
:25:48. > :25:55.over the breach and the flooded water meadows. Nearing the final
:25:55. > :26:00.chapter of our brief literary journey. We enter walk at the
:26:00. > :26:04.church, the place Thomas Hardy remains, and the centre of the
:26:04. > :26:08.universe or Thomas Hardy enthusiasts like me. Here we find
:26:08. > :26:13.Bill, who knows what the real people behind the fictional
:26:13. > :26:18.characters are laid to rest. this churchyard, apart from the
:26:18. > :26:26.Hardy family, all the local people are buried who featured in Under
:26:26. > :26:30.the Greenwood Tree. We have funny heard him for example, he died when
:26:30. > :26:40.she was just 20. She was a teenage girl with Thomas Hardy in the same
:26:40. > :26:43.
:26:43. > :26:49.school. Not only his bill at Thomas Hardy fan, he once lived in the
:26:49. > :26:54.house that Thomas Hardy designed and had built. I am Dorset born-
:26:54. > :27:00.and-bred. We have the connection to go and give in hardy's House, just
:27:00. > :27:08.a mile away. This is a photo of Thomas Hardy and his wife, Emma,
:27:08. > :27:18.and bases Bill, his wife and son. we had a lease on there for 21
:27:18. > :27:21.
:27:21. > :27:27.years. We loved every minute of it. Thomas Hardy died in 1928. He had
:27:27. > :27:32.wished to be buried with his first wife, Emma. By public demand his
:27:32. > :27:36.ashes were placed in Port corner at Westminster Abbey, but his heart
:27:36. > :27:46.was buried in Wessex in the heart of the landscape he loves,
:27:46. > :28:03.
:28:03. > :28:06.surrounded by the people he wrote A variety of people from the
:28:06. > :28:16.countryside in those days are buried in this churchyard. This was
:28:16. > :28:20.his favoured ground. He came here, worship here, his family was here,
:28:20. > :28:26.he is buried here. There is something very peaceful about this
:28:26. > :28:30.place. Some beautiful Thomas Hardy country