:00:00. > :00:14.Hello and welcome to a new series of Inside Out.
:00:15. > :00:20.Did we vote out? Of course H did, I could not believe immigration was
:00:21. > :00:38.going to be a major card. There is a point because yot have
:00:39. > :00:41.two young ones here and thex have got a future.
:00:42. > :00:50.The fishermen blaming Europd for the ones that got away. We got to put
:00:51. > :00:55.them back! Lovely fish, mord than enough on a dinner plate th`t. Throw
:00:56. > :01:11.it away. It doesn't matter hf we are in or out, this is inside ott.
:01:12. > :01:20.We have seen protests on thd streets and arguments among politichans
:01:21. > :01:27.about what happens next. Here in the South, Gosport put it differently.
:01:28. > :01:29.Down on the South coast, Designer and steadfast European
:01:30. > :01:33.Wayne Hemingway isn t taking the Referendum result lying down.
:01:34. > :01:41.I ve put an EU flag up do you think it ll go down well?
:01:42. > :01:48.Up in Oxford crime writer, Dreda Say Mitchell, is taking
:01:49. > :01:56.My name s Dreda Say Mitchell and I m proud to say I voted Leave.
:01:57. > :02:02.I m in Oxford which overwhelming voted to Remain.
:02:03. > :02:05.These two people with very opposing views are taking to the strdets
:02:06. > :02:11.in two very different places to suss out what we all want next.
:02:12. > :02:15.I call myself a pro-immigration leaver and that s really important
:02:16. > :02:23.to me that you can and the rest of the country.
:02:24. > :02:34.I m all for immigration but I don t believe we need to be
:02:35. > :02:39.Here at Oxford Castle the fhrst person I m going to have it
:02:40. > :02:44.out with is their tour guide, Paul Kyberd.
:02:45. > :02:52.What was Oxford thinking voting remain?
:02:53. > :03:01.I could not believe the immigration was a major card.
:03:02. > :03:17.People were getting so uptight that people were coming here an `wful
:03:18. > :03:25.situation, but come on a lot of these people are skilled.
:03:26. > :03:30.That s right 80% of EU migr`nts of working age here are employed,
:03:31. > :03:35.compared with only 75 per cent of Brits.
:03:36. > :03:39.That s my point - I don t think leaving the EU means we havd
:03:40. > :03:42.But Dreda, the Leave campaign was all about immigration
:03:43. > :03:49.I m here in Gosport where worryingly for me, 64% of voters
:03:50. > :03:55.One of those is taxi driver, Jean, who s lived here for 40 years.
:03:56. > :04:00.So you voted partly on immigration didn t you?
:04:01. > :04:09.That the rules and regulations will be a bit more stringent.
:04:10. > :04:19.We haven t got the infrastrtcture, the schools?
:04:20. > :04:22.The majority of migrants are economic migrants they don t
:04:23. > :04:34.If the jobs aren t here for them it means the economy is tanking a bit.
:04:35. > :04:37.I mean we should be strong dnough to say hang on a minute we should
:04:38. > :04:41.regulate this it s getting a bit silly.
:04:42. > :04:46.If Immigration is such a big deal here in Gosport
:04:47. > :04:50.aren t we better tackling from within the European Unhon?
:04:51. > :04:52.We need to put the Great back in Britain.
:04:53. > :04:58.And all the better for being diverse.
:04:59. > :05:00.Adrian here moved from Birmhngham to run his cafe on
:05:01. > :05:15.I think immigration here should be like in Australia instead of people
:05:16. > :05:20.coming over and getting what they want from the NHS.
:05:21. > :05:24.The Polish they work, the Indians they work,
:05:25. > :05:31.I don t mind them sorts being in the country.
:05:32. > :05:40.But the number sponging is so small?.what they bring
:05:41. > :05:59.Do you think any immigrants should go back.
:06:00. > :06:14.Yes ? the one s who s never done a day s work.
:06:15. > :06:18.So for the guy from the cafd immigration was the biggest
:06:19. > :06:28.thing and he expects some migrants to WAYNE PTC
:06:29. > :06:32.I m a Pro-Immigration Leaver so don t share Adrian s views.
:06:33. > :06:35.But I do think leaving the DU will help small businesses
:06:36. > :06:41.I m going to go and visit Graham who opened his dream
:06:42. > :06:47.There are over 50 independent traders here
:06:48. > :06:56.Like many here, Graham wanted to stay in the EU.
:06:57. > :07:00.We survive in Oxford because of the tourist markdt
:07:01. > :07:03.and I guess I was fearful that if we close our barriers
:07:04. > :07:07.people might think twice about coming here on holidax.
:07:08. > :07:10.Because of the weakness in the pound, I mean although we ve
:07:11. > :07:14.only been open for just over a year our business in July is up
:07:15. > :07:17.about 30% year on year so obviously their euros
:07:18. > :07:20.and their dollars are going further and I do wonder whether mord
:07:21. > :07:26.people are visiting the UK as a consequence.
:07:27. > :07:31.I think it s too early to say one way or another.
:07:32. > :07:44.I m optimistic that Graham s Gelato shop is one of many businesses
:07:45. > :07:55.Come on guys it s summer .you re going to be selling more icd cream.
:07:56. > :08:00.How can that ever be a good thing for our businesses
:08:01. > :08:04.We were stopped from trading with a lot of countries.
:08:05. > :08:12.Who were we stopped from trading with?
:08:13. > :08:22.He was told he had to have straight bananas.
:08:23. > :08:36.Leaving those behind will allow us to set our own laws and deal
:08:37. > :08:56.Did you vote remain cos of the support system?
:08:57. > :09:09.There seems to be an attitude, we re on our own.
:09:10. > :09:13.We need the court of human rights, the government needs to be
:09:14. > :09:21.I think we ve now got an opportunity to make a much fairer
:09:22. > :09:27.I respect your positive thinking Dreda but that won t
:09:28. > :09:32.In fact I m worried for the next generation and not convinced
:09:33. > :09:38.the people I met in Gosport realised the importance of their votd.
:09:39. > :09:47.Well there is a point cos you ve got two youngens
:09:48. > :09:55.20 year olds have got 60 ye`r olds ahead of them now and you vd gone
:09:56. > :09:57.against what they want for their lives.
:09:58. > :10:02.Not really you ve caught me out a bit there.
:10:03. > :10:07.In fact 75 % of voters aged under 24 voted to remain.
:10:08. > :10:48.What have you done with the union Jack? It's been put somewhere.
:10:49. > :11:03.I m not leaving Europe but I m leaving Gosport.
:11:04. > :11:12.I cannot say anything about this except gorgeous, you cannot help but
:11:13. > :11:14.smile. If you want to get in touch with the
:11:15. > :11:17.show, send us an e-mail. The number of fishermen in the UK
:11:18. > :11:20.has halved since the 1980s, with many of those left blaling
:11:21. > :11:36.the EU for the decline. Every morning is a different time
:11:37. > :11:46.obviously depending on tide but it s Mike Bailey has been fishing out
:11:47. > :12:07.of Poole harbour for over 30 years. Recently his business
:12:08. > :12:10.has been struggling. The amount of fish Mike is `llowed
:12:11. > :12:14.to catch is limited by strict quotas, put in place
:12:15. > :12:19.to stop overfishing. Every month and that you get
:12:20. > :12:22.a new set of quotas for the month, and you work out what it s worth
:12:23. > :12:26.and you think well that s two days fishing and that s
:12:27. > :12:28.meant to last a month. It s overzealous, it s gone too far
:12:29. > :12:31.and they re making rules Obviously now the referenduls
:12:32. > :12:38.actually happened now we will get Not over hopeful, but hoping a lot
:12:39. > :12:43.of the rules and regulations will disappear and we can m`ke it
:12:44. > :12:48.at a more local level. There s a shoal of fish, 50,
:12:49. > :12:51.60 fish in that shoal. Tides running too much at the moment
:12:52. > :12:56.so we can t shoot now so we ll carry on and see if we can
:12:57. > :12:59.find a bigger shoal. Today Mike and his brother Dave
:13:00. > :13:04.are fishing for bass. Any boats coming, Mike?
:13:05. > :13:07.No, clear of boats. They re under pressure
:13:08. > :13:12.for a big catch. Not in terms of numbers,
:13:13. > :13:19.but each fish has to be large enough This year the minimum
:13:20. > :13:22.size for bass has been increased to 42 centimetres,
:13:23. > :13:26.just over 16 inches. Most of the bass mike catchds
:13:27. > :13:29.no longer measure up, When we first started fishing
:13:30. > :13:36.for bass the size limit Now we ll be chucking ?150,
:13:37. > :13:44.?200 worth back last year s size. Not a fortune but would havd been
:13:45. > :13:49.nice this morning. Oh well, let s do it,
:13:50. > :13:57.let s get it done. Well over last year s
:13:58. > :14:00.size, lovely fish. Some days we can catch
:14:01. > :14:06.hundreds of fish like this. At least the method we re
:14:07. > :14:14.using with a ring net they ve got If we were using set
:14:15. > :14:18.nets and that we d be Oh well, I ll throw him back
:14:19. > :14:23.quickly while he s got Throwing money away means
:14:24. > :14:29.the crew don t get a wage. This is the first minimum shze
:14:30. > :14:33.increase since 1990. The fish that Mike is throwhng back
:14:34. > :14:37.have been sold to shops and It s annoying this is
:14:38. > :14:43.what we target; this More than enough on a dinner
:14:44. > :14:52.plate, that. Born and bred to catch fish
:14:53. > :14:59.and you ve got to throw thel back. Of the 33 bass Mike and Davd have
:15:00. > :15:03.caught so far, 28 end I d rather the ?5 or ?6
:15:04. > :15:19.in my pocket than that. Whilst EU rules are hitting Mike s
:15:20. > :15:24.wallet it, was the UK that pushed for tighter restrictions after bass
:15:25. > :15:30.stocks fell across northern Europe. They ve never been worried
:15:31. > :15:33.about the stocks before, now all of a sudden, new rules,
:15:34. > :15:43.new regulations, throw it away. Ooh, pinning our hopes
:15:44. > :15:47.on this one aren t we? This could pay for your van diesel
:15:48. > :15:51.to get down here this morning. I reckon he is, he s
:15:52. > :15:54.got a bit of length. At the moment, most
:15:55. > :16:03.of the undersized fish Mike is made to throw back have a good
:16:04. > :16:06.chance of surviving. January, yeah January
:16:07. > :16:12.coming up January 17, So all the small fish
:16:13. > :16:18.we have to bring in, This is another EU law
:16:19. > :16:24.the government wants to keep post The new landing obligation
:16:25. > :16:31.is to stop large commercial trawlers discarding tonnes of dead fhsh
:16:32. > :16:33.in search of a more All fish, no matter the sizd,
:16:34. > :16:39.will count towards a boats puota Undersize fish still can t be sold
:16:40. > :16:48.for human consumption. I don t understand how
:16:49. > :16:51.you have to land everything, Whereas we can throw it back
:16:52. > :16:55.like we ve just done, we ve thrown it back and at least
:16:56. > :16:57.we ve got a chance of It s got a chance to re-produce
:16:58. > :17:01.and all the rest of it. Yeah but the authorities once
:17:02. > :17:07.they ve taken it ashore? They ve got to pay for it to go
:17:08. > :17:14.to a landfill I suppose. It doesn t make sense in wh`t we ve
:17:15. > :17:17.been doing for years, and taking care in what we ve been
:17:18. > :17:20.doing in letting We ve done it with pride and now it
:17:21. > :17:26.doesn t make sense. Do not make us take all our
:17:27. > :17:29.undersize and kill it I get quite emotional about that
:17:30. > :17:38.if that does happen. It doesn t make sense,
:17:39. > :17:44.the rules are stupid. Fishing laws aren t
:17:45. > :17:47.just set by the EU. Our south coast fishermen
:17:48. > :17:50.are regulated by our own government and the United Nations,
:17:51. > :17:55.as well as the European Union. With an exit from the EU
:17:56. > :17:58.on the horizon, Mike and Dave want change,
:17:59. > :18:03.but is that actually possible? Tom Appleby is one of the UK s most
:18:04. > :18:08.prominent marine law experts. A lot of European law implelents
:18:09. > :18:13.international law so we can t walk away and think they no longdr apply
:18:14. > :18:17.because we are still bound by those There are all sorts of arrangements
:18:18. > :18:22.that go on about the amount of the sea so that we don t take
:18:23. > :18:26.fish off our neighbours, so it isn t a case of putting a line
:18:27. > :18:30.around a map and saying this is our sovereignty,
:18:31. > :18:32.that s not going to be In or out of the EU,
:18:33. > :18:36.it s the government s job to decide how much Mike and Dave
:18:37. > :18:39.are allowed to catch, as it shares out the nation`l quota
:18:40. > :18:44.amongst our fishermen. Inshore fishermen like Mike and Dave
:18:45. > :18:48.make up 80% of the UK fleet, but receive a tiny share
:18:49. > :18:52.of the national quota. The inshore fleet has something
:18:53. > :18:57.like between 2 and 4% of thd quota for the UK national quota,
:18:58. > :19:00.and yet there are individuals running around with larger
:19:01. > :19:05.proportions than that. That is the biggest problem facing
:19:06. > :19:08.the UK at the moment, and that s got nothing
:19:09. > :19:11.to do with Brussels. We asked the government
:19:12. > :19:17.what they planned to do to help people like Mike and Dave now
:19:18. > :19:19.we are leaving the EU. They wouldn t tell is if thdy had
:19:20. > :19:35.any plans to help inshore fhshermen Mike and Dave both voted
:19:36. > :19:38.to exit the EU, hoping this But with the UK set to leavd,
:19:39. > :19:44.many rules may have to remahn, and Mike and Dave s future
:19:45. > :19:49.hangs in the balance. I m just trying to work out
:19:50. > :19:52.what value we ve got today compared ?100 worth of keepable and we ve
:19:53. > :20:04.thrown away just over ?200 worth. Take away ?30 for fuel
:20:05. > :20:07.that leaves ?70 left No, yeah that s it, leaves ts
:20:08. > :20:35.with ?70. This special is part of the Britons
:20:36. > :20:41.Brexit Britain Day and you can join in the conversation right now on
:20:42. > :20:45.Twitter. Finally, if you bux cut flowers these days, chances are they
:20:46. > :20:47.have been shipped in from overseas but that was not always the case.
:20:48. > :20:52.Especially here in the south. 50 years ago the British Flower
:20:53. > :20:59.industry was blooming in thd South. With over 100 farms in the `rea
:21:00. > :21:03.these bouquets of Chrysanths would have ended up pride of place
:21:04. > :21:09.in vases across Britain. Today if you buy flowers
:21:10. > :21:12.from your local supermarket, they will almost certainly have
:21:13. > :21:16.sprouted up from further afheld 90% of our cut flowers are now
:21:17. > :21:22.shipped in from overseas. But just recently the British
:21:23. > :21:37.bloom is fighting back. It is huge. How big a crop to you
:21:38. > :21:39.have? It is three acres. We harvest thousands of stems a day and we grew
:21:40. > :21:40.over 40 different varieties. Ben Cross from West Sussex
:21:41. > :21:52.is a fourth generation flowdr farmer People think, is that what xou do?
:21:53. > :21:56.The pale links are different from the Reds and different to the
:21:57. > :21:58.oranges. They are like us, different habits throughout the year.
:21:59. > :22:01.But things haven t always been so rosy.
:22:02. > :22:03.Whilst growing up, his family saw all of the nearby
:22:04. > :22:19.The main thing is cheap imports they could not compete. As ` kid, I
:22:20. > :22:22.got blisters making boxes that we send to Covent Garden, Sedgdfield
:22:23. > :22:23.and you worked hard for a f`ir price.
:22:24. > :22:28.With London orders reducing, Ben looked for business nearby.
:22:29. > :22:35.I am getting more florists to buy direct from growers. We do 000 boxes
:22:36. > :22:41.a week to wholesalers who c`re where their flowers come from.
:22:42. > :22:43.Ben s not the only flower grower who is benefiting
:22:44. > :22:49.At a smallholding near the rural town of Steyning in Sussex,
:22:50. > :23:03.flower grower Shelly Marks-Thomson has a busy day ahead.
:23:04. > :23:06.Three years ago Shelley gavd up her job in teaching to start
:23:07. > :23:19.It's something I always wanted to do, to be able to just grow and
:23:20. > :23:20.share. And the secret to her
:23:21. > :23:34.success ? weddings. We cut 700 stems for another
:23:35. > :23:42.wedding. The bride is coming to collect bills. These are a daisy, a
:23:43. > :23:51.more robust version. They are brilliant and they are fant`stic. A
:23:52. > :23:55.lot of it is to do with people embracing the seasonality of flowers
:23:56. > :24:01.come just as they did with their fresh produce, understanding to have
:24:02. > :24:05.a juror in January is not rdally realistic unless you want it flown
:24:06. > :24:09.in from across the world. It is much nicer to have what is actually what
:24:10. > :24:11.you see on the roadside or hn some of his garden at the time that they
:24:12. > :24:13.are supposed to be here. Shelley and her local florist Nell
:24:14. > :24:16.also believe business is booming thanks to a price rise in ilported
:24:17. > :24:28.flowers since the country We have seen the uncertaintx at the
:24:29. > :24:32.minute is really starting to worry everyone, especially in the market
:24:33. > :24:35.with the trade agreements and things. No one knows what whll
:24:36. > :24:41.happen but prices are already rising whereas the English, their prices
:24:42. > :24:44.are staying the same. We know if we are quoting a wedding for ndxt year,
:24:45. > :24:50.we know what we have to charge because we know the prices `re going
:24:51. > :25:04.to stay pretty much the samd whereas from Holland, we just don't know.
:25:05. > :25:09.If we are ordering from the dutch market, it needs to be orders the
:25:10. > :25:12.day before so if I get a late order on the Friday and I needed by
:25:13. > :25:17.Saturday morning, I know I can recommend something locally grown
:25:18. > :25:23.and pick it up on my way to work the next day.
:25:24. > :25:32.Hampshire farmer Rosbie Morton believes to survive growers have
:25:33. > :25:39.We have 30,000 roses in all. Are you buying for the title of most
:25:40. > :25:45.frequent workplace 2016? Wotld like to think so. It is just curhous
:25:46. > :25:47.especially on a day like today. Hampshire farmer Rosbie Morton
:25:48. > :25:49.believes to survive growers have to tap into not just our sense
:25:50. > :25:53.of sight but our sense of slell Something that wasn t
:25:54. > :26:02.always top priority. The breeders at one point ddcided
:26:03. > :26:09.the important thing about roses was longevity and colour and sh`pe and
:26:10. > :26:19.formation. They took the path down that route. When I started, I wanted
:26:20. > :26:25.to bring smell back into thd roses. It is so linked with memorids.
:26:26. > :26:27.Everyone says when they smell them, that reminds me of my grandlother 's
:26:28. > :26:29.garden. It certainly takes xou back. Rosbie was brought up travelling
:26:30. > :26:42.the country with her parents. Army background. My mother hs an
:26:43. > :26:46.incredible Gardner and she was my inspiration and she always had a
:26:47. > :26:52.scented rose Autry in her G`rdner, as my grandmother. She cratdd a
:26:53. > :26:56.garden even if she was only in a place for a year or two so H grew up
:26:57. > :27:02.with that smell and you nevdr forget it. People are starting to support
:27:03. > :27:06.British flowers much more. There was a time when they thought, wd could
:27:07. > :27:11.have the most exotic flowers from South America or New Zealand and now
:27:12. > :27:23.I think they have realised that what you grow at home is really beautiful
:27:24. > :27:34.traditional flowers. Favourhte one? That is a really tricky one. It has
:27:35. > :27:38.to be this one. I cannot sax anything apart from gorgeous. It is
:27:39. > :27:39.beautiful. You cannot help but smile.
:27:40. > :27:42.Back at the flower farm, the mother of a bride
:27:43. > :27:49.and the groom have come to pick up their wedding flowers.
:27:50. > :27:56.So many and beautiful! It is just fantastic. I think this is what you
:27:57. > :28:00.have ordered. Better than what we imagined when we ordered! That is so
:28:01. > :28:08.lovely. Absolutely delighted. Gorgeous. We are a suffix pdople and
:28:09. > :28:12.these are suffix flowers. Wd are in a barn that is 600 years old and is
:28:13. > :28:16.part of the landscape. This is in keeping and this is what we want and
:28:17. > :28:29.it is what we should be tryhng for, the whole atmosphere.
:28:30. > :28:35.Television has never smelt so good! That's it for now, we have ` great
:28:36. > :28:40.series coming up and I will see you next Monday. Next week, if xou think
:28:41. > :28:44.your commute is about, spard a thought that the passengers of
:28:45. > :28:50.Southern rail. I am a disgrtntled commuter, this is the seventh week
:28:51. > :28:54.of this commuter hell that we are all placed in. I just cannot do this
:28:55. > :29:05.any more, it is too stressftl and upsetting.
:29:06. > :29:07.Hello, I'm Riz Lateef, with your 90-second update.
:29:08. > :29:11.The Prime Minister has ruled out a points-based system
:29:12. > :29:14.Theresa May said it wouldn't control numbers coming in.