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:00:06. > :00:11.Tonight, the consequences of getting your sums wrong. Did people

:00:11. > :00:15.in Stoke-on-Trent lease their homes because somebody couldn't add up?

:00:15. > :00:22.You come out through your front door and what have you got? An

:00:22. > :00:27.empty building site. What can we do? We are stuck.

:00:27. > :00:31.The police are giving safety advice. 100 days after the riots, the

:00:31. > :00:36.roving reporter who went into the thick of it finds out if the

:00:36. > :00:41.Community is bouncing back I want to find out why this happened and

:00:41. > :00:45.if anything has been done to stop it happening again.

:00:45. > :00:50.On the anniversary of the Coventry blitz we have got a special report

:00:50. > :01:00.from the cathedral. This is Inside Out for the West

:01:00. > :01:08.

:01:08. > :01:12.First, could it be possible hundreds of homes in Stoke-on-Trent

:01:12. > :01:16.were knocked down because somebody got their sums wrong? We have been

:01:16. > :01:23.added up the figures and talking to some of the people displaced by

:01:23. > :01:27.demolition in a programme that was meant to regenerate the city. Marc

:01:28. > :01:31.Glover Jones used to live in Stoke- on-Trent, and didn't want to move,

:01:31. > :01:37.but the council decided to demolish the streets around two men are

:01:37. > :01:42.planted jeep -- regenerate the city. He left when vandals started at

:01:42. > :01:48.setting light to homes and the pigeons moved in next door. When we

:01:48. > :01:53.first moved there it was every the cookhouse, the neighbours looked

:01:53. > :01:59.after each other, any problems were dealt with, be the well-built,

:02:00. > :02:06.really nice. Didn't want to live anywhere else. He now lives in a

:02:06. > :02:10.tall, thin, three-storey house that he and his wife did like as much

:02:10. > :02:15.with' Rusty windows, the kitchen needs replacing. He owned his old

:02:15. > :02:19.house but the council have a 30% stake in the new one, because he

:02:19. > :02:24.couldn't get a mortgage. When he walks past the derelict land he

:02:24. > :02:29.once lived he has little confidence in the future.

:02:29. > :02:33.Stoke will never improve because things never change, the same

:02:33. > :02:41.problems happened time and time again. They are not houses down and

:02:41. > :02:44.do nothing with the land. It ends up wasteland.

:02:44. > :02:48.A short walk from his old terraced house is this Street. While one

:02:48. > :02:55.side of the road is still standing the other side has been knocked

:02:55. > :03:00.down or boarded up, leaving bits of wallpaper flapping in the wind.

:03:00. > :03:03.Behold regeneration programme stalled halfway through a 15 year

:03:04. > :03:07.plan when the coalition government came in and stop the money. It has

:03:07. > :03:11.left people like Florence Walker in limbo, living in a bizarre

:03:11. > :03:18.landscape. I spend a fortune on my house over

:03:18. > :03:23.the years. Luckily my house is stopping. But the only thing this,

:03:23. > :03:32.if you look round the area, it is not a nice area. It looks like a

:03:32. > :03:36.living they reached. -- I lived in Beirut. Demolition and compulsory

:03:36. > :03:40.purchases began under Labour to bring the loads -- local have in

:03:40. > :03:45.store up to standard. Many properties were cold and damp.

:03:45. > :03:50.A falling population meant one in 10 was a lift in while others

:03:50. > :03:53.belonged to landlords who rented the mat to a transient population.

:03:53. > :03:59.It was an attempted to breathe life into the city which had been long

:03:59. > :04:02.neglected. Stoke has had 30 years of decline.

:04:02. > :04:10.We have not been able to arrest that but we have been able to take

:04:10. > :04:14.the edge off. In future we will not be able to do that. We are looking

:04:14. > :04:19.at the kind without government support and a managed decline.

:04:19. > :04:24.In the face of bleak predictions of a total housing market collapse, it

:04:24. > :04:28.was knocking whole streets full of houses down the best way forward? A

:04:28. > :04:33.few weeks ago Prince Charles visited Stoke-on-Trent and ask the

:04:33. > :04:39.council or why they were pulling down Victorian heritage homes?

:04:39. > :04:43.Could the answer be somewhere somebody couldn't add up? We have

:04:43. > :04:48.been doing some number-crunching on the options costed before homes

:04:48. > :04:52.were demolished here in Slater Street. They included comprehensive

:04:52. > :04:55.renovation or demolition. We have discovered in an assessment for

:04:55. > :04:59.renovation a positive figure representing the increased market

:04:59. > :05:05.value of renovated homes was actually added to the costs when it

:05:05. > :05:11.should have been taken away. That made renovation appear �14 million

:05:11. > :05:16.more expensive than it actually was. The council points out the mistake

:05:16. > :05:20.was noted in the 2006 public inquiry, but the inspector came out

:05:20. > :05:24.in favour -- favour of clearance having decided the future value of

:05:24. > :05:28.homes can be them predicted adding householders can be forced to

:05:29. > :05:32.renovate them anyway. We have spoken to experts who say you

:05:32. > :05:36.cannot do a financial assessment without taking the benefits into

:05:36. > :05:41.account as well as the costs. One even did the sums again, finding

:05:41. > :05:50.more mistakes and showing that even if you discount the increase market

:05:50. > :05:53.value figure renovation would still have been �9 million cheaper. In

:05:53. > :06:01.middle port Ted Owen campaigned to keep the old streets, demolishing

:06:01. > :06:07.only those beyond repair. I think Renew had a wonderful opportunity

:06:07. > :06:13.with the money they have got to invest in a community in the wake

:06:13. > :06:21.of refurbishment. We had it all costed out. He would have cost

:06:21. > :06:29.something in the region of �20,000 per property. And to demolish some

:06:29. > :06:37.of it, to open up the area, to refurbish another set of Coronation

:06:37. > :06:40.Streets if you like, that was the weight it batch that was the way

:06:41. > :06:46.forward. -- that was the way forward. Whatever you did was very

:06:46. > :06:56.poor. What you did actually was fail. That is what you did. That

:06:56. > :06:58.

:06:58. > :07:06.For customers of the traditional hole-in-the-wall shop, demolition

:07:06. > :07:11.has blighted lives and destroyed communities. To somebody who comes

:07:12. > :07:18.in from outside he wouldn't know what Stoke on Trent is about. It

:07:18. > :07:22.was about the pottery. Now it is probably known more for the

:07:22. > :07:28.football club. The community has just gone. It is just derelict here

:07:28. > :07:32.at the moment. All the space needs filling up. In the middle of a

:07:32. > :07:35.demolished area the hole in the wall is the last shop selling

:07:35. > :07:41.oatcakes in the traditional way, through the window of an ordinary

:07:41. > :07:46.house. It has been handled very poorly. They told us originally it

:07:46. > :07:56.would be a 15 year plan. Five, seven years down the line, it has

:07:56. > :07:59.fallen apart. Everybody has jumped ship. At least people like myself

:07:59. > :08:05.are trying to sort myself out and get myself out of here but I don't

:08:05. > :08:08.know where to go. At a bit of a loss. You have got to take into

:08:08. > :08:12.account at the time at which the programme developed and it wasn't

:08:12. > :08:16.just here, it was across a number of northern cities, particularly in

:08:16. > :08:19.Stoke-on-Trent, we had 3,000 empty properties and we were losing

:08:19. > :08:23.population at the rate of 1,000 residents each year so the trend

:08:23. > :08:26.were going the other way, we were going to have more empty properties

:08:26. > :08:30.if we didn't do something to stop a complete housing market collapse

:08:30. > :08:35.that had happened in parts of Manchester and Salford and

:08:35. > :08:38.Newcastle. We needed to do something quickly to get the

:08:38. > :08:42.confidence back to developers and residents there we are trying to

:08:42. > :08:47.deal with the situation, and put something positive from the

:08:47. > :08:49.investment we can put into it. Before they could finish the

:08:49. > :08:54.Investment the government stopped the promised money. For Brendan

:08:54. > :08:57.Nevin it was a vote of no confidence in the area.

:08:57. > :09:01.Ideologically this government doesn't believe in intervention, he

:09:01. > :09:05.believes in letting places think or swim. Large parts of the Midlands

:09:05. > :09:11.and North of England are not competitive. At the moment they are

:09:11. > :09:15.being left to sink rather than swim. The housing minister turned down

:09:15. > :09:18.our request for an interview. Instead he issued a statement

:09:19. > :09:22.denying abandoning Stoke, saying the money was stopped because

:09:22. > :09:26.renewal wasn't working. He said the government is committed to helping

:09:26. > :09:36.residents who are stranded in derelict neighbourhoods, and had

:09:36. > :09:37.

:09:38. > :09:41.announced a �13 million lifeline As the council promises there was

:09:41. > :09:46.doomed the action in the areas currently left in number, one idea

:09:46. > :09:50.being put forward by Tom Nocher is to allow local groups to take over

:09:50. > :09:56.some of the assets and rebuild their communities themselves.

:09:56. > :10:02.Attracting funding from ethical lenders and government grants.

:10:02. > :10:10.me another option. We have no housing market, local authority

:10:10. > :10:14.budgets are eye-watering late high. Developers are up reticent about

:10:14. > :10:19.investing in these areas, stepping back. We need to think about

:10:19. > :10:22.creative options. This is what we can test. Realistically, I think it

:10:22. > :10:27.will be like this in five, 10 years, I don't think anything will have

:10:27. > :10:32.changed. That is the reason I have suggested we try to work with

:10:32. > :10:38.groups to do it. Leaving the land bacon like this is perhaps the

:10:39. > :10:43.worst option. We know it rains public resources. We know for many

:10:43. > :10:48.bring residents it is not great living adjacent to land like this.

:10:48. > :10:52.The impotence -- emphasis has to be an doing something.

:10:52. > :10:56.For people still living with strokes boarded-up streets it may

:10:56. > :11:00.seem amazing all this could have happened because someone couldn't

:11:00. > :11:09.add up. Many of them don't have any confidence in the future

:11:09. > :11:13.mathematical skills of our leaders, both local and national. Ferries

:11:13. > :11:18.people have told us things. The main one is down to the fact the

:11:18. > :11:23.value of the land with has not on it than with a house on it. People

:11:23. > :11:27.are set to make a lot of money. Unfortunately we are in the way.

:11:28. > :11:32.They should get their priorities right. Make it a decent area like

:11:32. > :11:38.it was before. Not keep saying we are going to do this, do that. And

:11:38. > :11:46.get nothing done. Everybody makes these decisions, not one of them

:11:46. > :11:51.have to live with it 24 hours a day. We have to.

:11:51. > :12:01.You can join in the debate on BBC Radio Stoke tomorrow morning, full

:12:01. > :12:01.

:12:01. > :12:08.details on our Facebook page. You can also lead your comments.

:12:08. > :12:12.It is 100 days this week since the Birmingham riots. He can forget the

:12:12. > :12:16.presenter from Sangat TV he drove right into the thick of it?

:12:16. > :12:19.I don't care if I lose my life, at the end of the day it is about

:12:19. > :12:26.humility, it is ridiculous what is happening.

:12:26. > :12:36.Now he is back with a report for Inside Out, and we are asking how

:12:36. > :12:38.

:12:38. > :12:44.Birmingham is my home, I love this city. But for two days in August

:12:44. > :12:50.anarchy reigned. It was a place I didn't recognise. I was here when

:12:50. > :12:55.it happened, reporting live. It is like a small war zone at the moment.

:12:55. > :13:05.It is really bad. The police are giving the safety advice. The

:13:05. > :13:07.

:13:07. > :13:11.images we filmed were beamed into They have got him. 100 years --

:13:11. > :13:15.days on, I want to find out why this has happened and if anything

:13:15. > :13:25.has been done to stop it happening again. I joined at the police as

:13:25. > :13:27.

:13:27. > :13:32.they tried to track down those Sangat TV is broadcast from the

:13:32. > :13:36.back room of a house in Birmingham. It is a satellite channel for

:13:36. > :13:46.Britain's Sikh community. Until recently, this was its only news

:13:46. > :13:49.

:13:49. > :13:52.programme but on 8th August, all Good evening. A large-scale police

:13:52. > :13:58.operation is under way tonight after a series of violent

:13:58. > :14:02.disturbances... After news came in of the riots, we grabbed the

:14:02. > :14:09.cameras and a hit the road. I went live on television for the very

:14:09. > :14:12.first time. Do not let your children out. It is really bad. My

:14:12. > :14:17.aim was to tell them to stay safe. This is what is happening, please

:14:17. > :14:25.make sure you do not come out and look after your property and your

:14:25. > :14:30.children. Stay out of trouble. They are running.

:14:30. > :14:33.We were first on the scene, beating the big networks to it. The

:14:33. > :14:42.community station became a rolling news channel and soon we became

:14:42. > :14:52.part of the story. When we saw a police officer running after a

:14:52. > :14:59.

:14:59. > :15:04.group of young men, we offered him This is what we need to do, the

:15:04. > :15:08.community. The police are protecting us and doing their job...

:15:08. > :15:13.We filmed the arrest and won plaudits at the highest level.

:15:13. > :15:18.me praise Sangat TV who helped the police to catch a criminal. But

:15:18. > :15:24.that was an exercise in social responsibility by that media

:15:24. > :15:28.organisation. 100 days on, I am meeting the officer who grabbed a

:15:28. > :15:36.lift with us tonight at the squat where he made the arrest. This is

:15:36. > :15:41.the first time I have seen him since. How do you do? Pleasure. It

:15:41. > :15:47.is good to see you. It was one of those strange things. We never got

:15:48. > :15:52.the chance to have a talk afterwards. I am under no doubts,

:15:52. > :15:57.he would have got away if they have not helped. We might still have

:15:57. > :16:01.been looking for him now, three months on. He was right here, my

:16:01. > :16:07.colleagues and I managed to detain him, arrested him, right there and

:16:07. > :16:12.then. At that point, it was get him into the van, into custody, and

:16:12. > :16:18.deal with it later. It was only after that that we got the chance

:16:18. > :16:25.to sit down and think, those guys it did me a favour. They held the

:16:25. > :16:30.catch that guy. You could couldn't ask for anything more than that.

:16:30. > :16:35.don't care if I lose my life. At the end of the day, it is about

:16:35. > :16:40.humanity. It is very emotional. It is ridiculous what transient... It

:16:40. > :16:44.was a frightening time and even now I have no idea why people laid

:16:44. > :16:48.siege to their own communities. Dr Patrick Tissington has an

:16:48. > :16:52.explanation. He is a psychologist from Aston University who studies

:16:52. > :16:56.people's behaviour during crisis. It is interesting. There is a man

:16:56. > :17:00.there who has just tried to kick in the door. There is a big grin on

:17:00. > :17:04.his face. He is not normally allowed to do that sort of thing.

:17:04. > :17:09.He has done it and no one has stopped him. In that moment, what

:17:09. > :17:15.he is sharing is a very powerful gesture, it to say, I can do what

:17:15. > :17:20.ever I like. It is only that -- when the rest of the crowd realise

:17:20. > :17:24.it is open, they going to see what they can take. They do not take

:17:24. > :17:28.very much, they're not really about stealing the property. What do they

:17:28. > :17:33.are about his power. Being able to get away with things they would not

:17:33. > :17:38.normally be able to. The rioters were not just after a big-screen

:17:38. > :17:48.televisions. Many were also after power and status. What they did was

:17:48. > :17:48.

:17:48. > :17:53.criminal and wrong and it led to I watched Abdul Qudoos agreed but

:17:53. > :18:00.for his two brothers who were hit by a car while at protecting the

:18:00. > :18:07.community from looters. He has lost his life. He was somebody's brother,

:18:07. > :18:12.somebody's son. It was heartbreaking to watch. This was my

:18:12. > :18:18.community too. That gives me the strength... Days later there was a

:18:18. > :18:23.peace rally, designed to bring people together after the riots and

:18:23. > :18:28.prevent a backlash. When I saw Abdul Qudoos there, I embraced him.

:18:28. > :18:32.He told me that our communities must stay together. Has that piece

:18:32. > :18:40.lasted? It is a question I want to ask Mohammed Abbasi who helped

:18:40. > :18:46.organise the rally. There was a lot of tension after the events on

:18:46. > :18:51.Dudley Road. Things seemed to calm down a lot. Rather than Asian and

:18:51. > :18:56.black people being at each other's throats, we have come together in

:18:56. > :19:02.many areas. I think people are making a lot more effort, not just

:19:02. > :19:07.a amongst the black and Asian communities, but the wider society.

:19:07. > :19:12.I am proud that communities across the West Midlands have responded so

:19:12. > :19:16.well to the riots. It does not stop there. I have heard people helping

:19:16. > :19:22.shopkeepers too. I am on my way to meet one of the worst affected

:19:22. > :19:26.shopkeepers be during the riots. Let us see how he is coping. Ajay

:19:26. > :19:35.Bhatia has spent years building up his business but in less than a

:19:35. > :19:43.minute it was torn apart. We were really so low at that time. I was

:19:43. > :19:48.planning to close the business. The first six weeks, it was so, so bad.

:19:48. > :19:52.I was running around like a headless chicken, talking to people,

:19:52. > :20:00.how are we going to get the money? What is going to happen? The bills

:20:00. > :20:03.are piling up. Eventually, Britain responded. Ajay Bhatia had a royal

:20:03. > :20:11.visit and receive financial help from businesses, the council and

:20:11. > :20:16.members of the public. The response saved his business. After about 40-

:20:16. > :20:24.60 days, things started to happen. Things are getting better, day-by-

:20:24. > :20:30.day. What about the rioters themselves? What happened to them?

:20:30. > :20:34.The hunt for them goes on. This morning, I am joining the police

:20:34. > :20:41.for an early-morning raid as they tried to arrest more rioters.

:20:41. > :20:45.Police! Show yourselves. Birmingham, I watched the police

:20:45. > :20:49.stormed a flat and arrest a suspected looter. It is part of the

:20:49. > :20:55.biggest police investigation in the West Midlands for more than 30

:20:55. > :20:59.years. So far, they have made more than 600 arrests. This is exactly

:20:59. > :21:04.the results I wanted. This is what the police are doing as well. It is

:21:04. > :21:10.brilliant. It is good to see that they are not giving up. Whether it

:21:10. > :21:17.is 100 days, another hundred days, they are not going to get away pull

:21:17. > :21:21.stop -- get away. 100 days since the burning and

:21:21. > :21:24.riots. 14th November is always something of a sombre night in

:21:24. > :21:28.Coventry as it marks the anniversary of the terrible night

:21:28. > :21:32.when large parts of the city were flattened during World War Two.

:21:33. > :21:41.This evening, a special event is under way at the cathedral which

:21:41. > :21:46.attempts to look to the future. 71 years ago today, Coventry

:21:46. > :21:49.suffered a ferocious attack. Waves of German aircraft targeted be city

:21:49. > :21:53.in one of Britain's worst night of bombing during the Second World War.

:21:53. > :22:01.It was a long, brutal bombardment which left more than 500 people

:22:01. > :22:05.dead and much of the city centre in ruins. Coventry survived, and

:22:05. > :22:10.rebuild itself and today, few obvious signs remain of what

:22:11. > :22:16.happened back then. There is one. Coventry's old cathedral was the

:22:16. > :22:21.most shocking, highest profile victim of the bombing raid. Today

:22:21. > :22:26.its shattered medieval ruins still stand as a striking witness of the

:22:26. > :22:30.city's darkest night. After more than 70 years, the walls of this

:22:30. > :22:35.old place are starting to fall apart. Its future is under threat.

:22:35. > :22:40.I think this site is far too important to lose and capable of

:22:40. > :22:48.achieving more than it does today. Let me show you why I think it

:22:48. > :22:53.Old St Michaels was built towards the end of the Middle Ages and was

:22:53. > :22:56.originally a grand parish church. In fact, it had only been a

:22:56. > :23:02.cathedral for just over 20 years when the bombers struck. Now, what

:23:02. > :23:07.is left is starting to show its age. Where is the crack? When did it

:23:07. > :23:11.happen? It appeared to us in early September... The stonework is

:23:11. > :23:14.cracking and that is expensive to repair. There is a strong feeling

:23:14. > :23:20.that these ruins cannot be allowed to crumble because of what they

:23:20. > :23:26.represent. The ruins stand as something quite powerful, a

:23:26. > :23:29.reminder of war, its costs, the human tragedy of it. Therefore, we

:23:29. > :23:35.have a potential here to continue to develop that been on the site,

:23:35. > :23:40.not just about 1940, but about the ongoing human cost of war among

:23:40. > :23:45.civilian populations. The cathedral authorities want to preserve this

:23:45. > :23:50.place as a monument to war victims in Coventry and far beyond. Old St

:23:50. > :23:53.Michaels is certainly a striking memorial. These ruins have another

:23:53. > :23:59.valuable role to play. They can help us understand more about the

:23:59. > :24:06.history and people of this city. The Cripps are down here? You can

:24:06. > :24:11.see the two doors... -- the crypts. After the war, the cryptics were

:24:11. > :24:17.sealed off. Now they have been opened up, revealing a hidden part

:24:17. > :24:22.of the city. Here we are in the second crypt. It is an amazing

:24:22. > :24:28.space. We know there is another crypt through there. And then there

:24:28. > :24:35.is that? This is very interesting. It is full of rubble, we think from

:24:35. > :24:40.the November Blitz. We think -- we think this crypt was used as a skip.

:24:40. > :24:46.What do we know about it? We know nothing. There is no record. No

:24:46. > :24:49.photographs. We do not know the size of it on anything. What would

:24:49. > :24:55.we gain, what could the excavation of this area and its presentation

:24:55. > :24:58.tell us? About the wealth and investment by the wealthy Coventry

:24:58. > :25:03.merchants into this great apparent Church -- parish church and why it

:25:03. > :25:07.is so big and why we can see from the position of this chapel that it

:25:07. > :25:12.was actually quite a small church when it first started. This was

:25:12. > :25:17.standing on its own. It is a story of the success of Coventry in the

:25:17. > :25:21.late medieval period. That is a story too few people know. It has

:25:21. > :25:26.been forgotten. Old St Michaels can give us a glimpse of commentary in

:25:26. > :25:30.the late Middle Ages. But there is more. It can also shed a multi-

:25:30. > :25:40.coloured light on the city's artistic past. In the Middle Ages,

:25:40. > :25:45.church architecture was a -- with large Gothic windows and the

:25:45. > :25:52.stained glass was an expensive form of art. It told been story of

:25:52. > :25:55.common life. One of the greatest of all of the British Dane Karsten --

:25:55. > :26:02.stained-glass artist came from Coventry. His name was John

:26:02. > :26:06.Thornton. Thornton is probably best known for the stunning great east

:26:06. > :26:10.window at York Minster. His stained glass also adorned Old St Michaels.

:26:10. > :26:15.What few people realise is that much of it survives, or because

:26:15. > :26:22.someone had the bright idea to remove it before the war. The

:26:22. > :26:26.windows were dismantled into more than 2500 pieces, a treasure Hove -

:26:26. > :26:31.- treasure-trove of glass that was forgotten for years. Now we can put

:26:31. > :26:36.the puzzle back together. You have got all kinds of faces here. That

:26:37. > :26:43.would seem to be John the Baptist. A but Saints, with their haloes.

:26:43. > :26:48.Ladies, in contemporary dress will stop bearded men as well. All of

:26:48. > :26:52.the life, the character, the people from the late Middle Ages, when

:26:52. > :26:58.Coventry were at its peak, are still here to be met. If indeed.

:26:58. > :27:03.This is a very important aspect of commentary's heritage which to date

:27:03. > :27:09.has not been very well publicised. It is not often that you can get as

:27:09. > :27:13.close as this to pieces of art, glass art, which were produced in

:27:13. > :27:18.the Middle Ages. What would the value be to the City of Coventry if

:27:18. > :27:24.this class was cleaned, understood, publicised and put on display?

:27:24. > :27:29.would make Coventry a centre where class of great importance could be

:27:29. > :27:35.viewed by all those who are interested in all areas of up art

:27:36. > :27:40.history. It would even be a tourist attraction for the City as a whole.

:27:40. > :27:45.Old St Michaels can tell us a great deal about Coventry's recent and

:27:45. > :27:49.distant past. It has so much to offer, such potential to be useful

:27:49. > :27:53.and inspiring. We should not allow this to slip away. That is why

:27:53. > :27:58.today a campaign is being launched to raise a million pounds for this

:27:58. > :28:03.historic site. Old St Michaels and what it stands sport cannot be lost.

:28:03. > :28:08.But with a shared funding, protection, opening it up to the

:28:08. > :28:18.public, we can optimise and make it useful and then these ruins will

:28:18. > :28:18.

:28:18. > :28:25.become a gift for future You can see a special report on it

:28:25. > :28:29.tonight's events at the cathedral on BBC Midlands today at 10:25pm.

:28:29. > :28:34.That is all for now. During the next week.

:28:35. > :28:43.On that next week's programme... Eventually, when you hit the edge

:28:43. > :28:47.of the water, beak abroad will react. After one of the driest