:00:08. > :00:15.Hallow, and welcome to Inside Out. On tonight programme: a pig farmer
:00:15. > :00:25.near Burton-on-Trent, some say it is a price not worth paying. Does
:00:25. > :00:26.
:00:26. > :00:31.the world really need more cheap meat? Is that the right direction?
:00:31. > :00:39.De you love your local roundabout? People here are fighting to keep
:00:39. > :00:46.theirs. I will chain myself to this roundabout until the bulldozers go
:00:46. > :00:56.away. As a new wave of Irish emigrants come to Birmingham, will
:00:56. > :00:57.
:00:57. > :01:07.they get a better welcome than they had 60 years ago? It said no Irish,
:01:07. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:25.No Blacks, No children. This is Inside Out for the Midlands.
:01:25. > :01:33.British pork producers said they cannot compete with cheaper imports
:01:33. > :01:43.from countries like Denmark, but now this Burton-on-Trent company
:01:43. > :01:43.
:01:43. > :01:53.says it has an answer to house more than 25,000 pigs. The plant has
:01:53. > :01:53.
:01:53. > :01:58.outraged some. We believe what we are doing is
:01:58. > :02:04.high welfare, getting the best possible standards we can. It isn't
:02:04. > :02:13.right for a pig to live its whole life without feeding the Sun on its
:02:13. > :02:17.back, or -- without having his nose in the ground. We were losing over
:02:17. > :02:25.�1 million a year two years ago when the pig industry was in a dire
:02:25. > :02:32.place. People are going to have to say this is going too far. Two pig
:02:32. > :02:35.farmers with opposing views. This man is planning a second
:02:35. > :02:43.agricultural revolution making bigger profits and providing
:02:43. > :02:52.cheaper meat. This farmer runs an organic farm, he is appalled by
:02:53. > :03:00.this brave new farming world. is a big difference. I agreed, but
:03:00. > :03:04.there is a big cast in that method of farming. The plan to have more
:03:04. > :03:11.than 25,000 pigs at this farm has led to a series of angry
:03:11. > :03:20.demonstrations. Several well-known faces have added their faces to the
:03:20. > :03:30.protest. I think it's barbaric, and really we should be creating more
:03:30. > :03:30.
:03:30. > :03:34.humane farming, and more sustainable farming practice.
:03:34. > :03:38.the world really need more cheaper meat? Do we want to be producing
:03:38. > :03:46.huge volumes of cheaper meat? Is that the writer direction of
:03:46. > :03:54.travel? Everything that's happening to our help would suggest otherwise.
:03:54. > :03:58.-- health. A room with a view, a rumour that this woman fears will
:03:58. > :04:07.be blighted by the application for the pig farm opposite, if it is
:04:07. > :04:17.approved. People say not in my backyard, but this really is in my
:04:17. > :04:19.
:04:19. > :04:23.backyard. Her son Tom suffers from a weak heart, he's worried that
:04:23. > :04:30.thousands of pigs will bring additional hazards to his already
:04:30. > :04:34.frail health. Having just come out of hospital, I'm not wanting to get
:04:34. > :04:40.diseases, I'm very susceptible to it, and anything could be quite
:04:40. > :04:45.serious to my heart. Can you guarantee to the people living next
:04:45. > :04:54.door that they will be no spread of disease? There will be no spread of
:04:54. > :04:59.disease, with regards to they won't be giving out -- with regard to
:04:59. > :05:04.disease, can they guarantee there will not give our pigs any disease?
:05:04. > :05:12.There will be far less problems than the units already in the
:05:12. > :05:21.village. These large pig farms and large dairies are new developments,
:05:21. > :05:25.the disease is associate with them, and the risks -- the diseases
:05:25. > :05:30.associated with them and the risks are fairly new. We cannot tell
:05:30. > :05:36.people if they will get sick. They cannot be certain that they won't.
:05:36. > :05:39.This man runs a farm of about half the number of pigs, but his animals
:05:39. > :05:46.are outdoors, and there were few objections. He is not against
:05:46. > :05:50.indoor farming, and sees roles of both. I firmly believe that this is
:05:50. > :05:58.the way I want to farm. The pigs have a lot of acres, they are
:05:58. > :06:08.running around, the piglets are running around. They have lots of
:06:08. > :06:11.
:06:11. > :06:16.fresh face and there -- they have lots of fresh air and space.
:06:16. > :06:22.this farmer, where there is Marc Emmers brass. The waste from these
:06:22. > :06:27.pigs provides energy, he likens this new farm to way modern luxury
:06:28. > :06:34.hotel for pigs. Comfortable, spacious and green. This system
:06:34. > :06:38.will not produce a smell. If he does, we will be shut down. This
:06:38. > :06:45.town has a women's prison, and the farm will be like a second
:06:45. > :06:49.according to local residents. have lived in the countryside or my
:06:49. > :06:58.life, I have no problem with farming. I don't see this as
:06:58. > :07:02.farming, this is industrial. year ago a dairy farm with Dewar
:07:02. > :07:07.plan to build a "super farm" after months of protests and
:07:07. > :07:14.demonstrations. Farms like this are commonplace in the United States,
:07:14. > :07:24.they usually much bigger than anything found here. This woman
:07:24. > :07:28.
:07:28. > :07:38.says that "super farm" buildings are too big for their size.
:07:38. > :07:39.
:07:39. > :07:45.pigs going out to grass, they are euphoric. In large tell you must --
:07:45. > :07:51.in large-scale European farms the pigs Arquette in such small space
:07:51. > :07:56.they cannot turn around. This farm would not exceed regulations. They
:07:56. > :07:59.say they are providing decent meat at a decent price. Most people now
:07:59. > :08:09.get their meat from supermarkets, but rarely question wearer comes
:08:09. > :08:12.
:08:12. > :08:16.from or how it produced. -- ready question where it comes from.
:08:16. > :08:21.Research we did a couple of years ago suggests that two-thirds or the
:08:21. > :08:27.meat brought into this country, the majority, would be illegal to
:08:28. > :08:37.produce in this country. Why would it be illegal? Many the conditions
:08:37. > :08:44.that the pigs are kept. In this country are kept in bigger pence. -
:08:44. > :08:54.- bigger enclosures. The foreign produce coming in is getting sub-
:08:54. > :08:54.
:08:55. > :09:00.standard systems. The government says we have a choice, farming
:09:00. > :09:04.minister Jim Paice says we can maintain sentimental farming, or
:09:04. > :09:12.set the industry on fire by producing more meet at affordable
:09:12. > :09:19.prices. What British farmers have always done well is the more
:09:19. > :09:24.extensive farming with higher welfare standards that may lead to
:09:24. > :09:29.a more expensive product, but it is one we can all feel better about.
:09:29. > :09:34.Earlier this month there was another demonstration against the
:09:34. > :09:44.application in Derby. The battle to decide what we eat, and how we
:09:44. > :09:44.
:09:45. > :09:49.produce it has only just begun. So, what do you think? Are you
:09:49. > :09:53.prepared to pay more for your sausages and bacon? Or are you
:09:53. > :10:02.being forced to shop for ever cheaper meat? Joined the boat on
:10:02. > :10:07.our Facebook page. -- join of the vote.
:10:07. > :10:14.This roundabout has made it on to wait candour Faure roundabout
:10:14. > :10:24.appreciation Society. By the time the calendar comes out it will be
:10:24. > :10:25.
:10:25. > :10:31.long gone. The people of Leek aren't happY.
:10:31. > :10:37.They're a community up in arms. Taking to the streets. They're at
:10:37. > :10:41.war, over a roundabout. This roundabout, in fact. And it's here
:10:41. > :10:44.that the lines of battle have been drawn. Plans to do away with the
:10:44. > :10:50.roundabout and replace it with traffic lights have left the locals
:10:51. > :10:57.up in arms. Save our roundabout. I am passionate aobout Leek and I
:10:57. > :11:02.will chain myself to the roundabout until the bulldozers go away! I'm
:11:02. > :11:06.absolutely thrilled that so many people have turned out this evening.
:11:06. > :11:10.You can't get rid of the roundabout, I love looking at the flowers,
:11:10. > :11:16.they're so beautiful. They brighten up the day as you go past and look
:11:16. > :11:21.at them. So, why on earth are people fighting to save a
:11:21. > :11:29.roundabout? I'm off to see a little girl who might be able to shed some
:11:29. > :11:35.light on it all. If they change your roundabout and put lights in,
:11:35. > :11:41.how would taht make you feel? make me feel sad, traffic lights
:11:41. > :11:48.don't do much, just stop traffic. As a member of the roundabout inner
:11:48. > :11:53.circle, Alex even asked for a royal helping hand. I wrote to Prince
:11:53. > :11:56.Charles but he didn't do anything, so we're going to number 10. You're
:11:56. > :12:04.going to hand in your petition and hopefully get them to change the
:12:04. > :12:09.minds of the local council. Yeah. Alex's grandmother Pam has been a
:12:09. > :12:14.driving forces behind the campaign. Pam, you're not happy at all about
:12:14. > :12:17.this roundabout being dug up? people of Leek are really angry,
:12:17. > :12:20.that for the sake of a new supermarket, the roads are going to
:12:20. > :12:30.be changed, the iconic roundabout infront od the war memorial will be
:12:30. > :12:32.
:12:32. > :12:34.gone. This sense of collective community spirit has inspired Pam
:12:35. > :12:44.to go one-step further, coming out of retirement to become Deputy
:12:45. > :12:45.
:12:45. > :12:47.Mayor. We're hoping that somehow we can get all the parties involved to
:12:47. > :12:56.back to the drawing board, and hopefully consult with the people
:12:56. > :12:58.of Leek of the new plans. And it's in line with Sainsbury's plans to
:12:58. > :13:06.build a new supermarket in town that the roundabout changes have
:13:06. > :13:09.come, well, about! The store, which will be built a mile down the road
:13:09. > :13:12.brings with it the promise of 600 jobs, fresh investment and plans to
:13:12. > :13:22.alleviate traffic congestion in the town centre by redesigning the road
:13:22. > :13:23.
:13:23. > :13:25.newtworks. Although locals have little objection to the new store
:13:25. > :13:33.being built, the roundabout plans have got one baker changing her
:13:33. > :13:38.focus from cakes to cameras. Sarah Gayton has been filming the whole
:13:38. > :13:45.campaign. This is such an important story to tell, these people, as
:13:45. > :13:49.part of the big society, they need to listen to the people of the town.
:13:49. > :13:51.I thought, if it's on the radio, it's brilliant, but it will go, so
:13:51. > :13:55.we needed some kind of visual record to show what happened,
:13:56. > :14:02.because I knew people wouldn't listen. Who's going to listen to
:14:02. > :14:05.us? So what's so special about this roundabout, I mean to the untrained
:14:05. > :14:15.eye, it looks like most other roundabouts, it's circular and well,
:14:15. > :14:16.
:14:16. > :14:20.cars go round it, So, this is THE roundabout, why is so special?
:14:20. > :14:24.is Leek and this is our roundabout. Absolutely gorgeous, it's the
:14:24. > :14:29.gateway to Leek. In the Spring, around March, the daffodils are
:14:29. > :14:35.stunning. It keeps people happy, it is our roundabout and we want to
:14:36. > :14:38.keep it for future generations. Well, I think I'm getting the
:14:39. > :14:43.picture, this roundabout certainly seems to mean a lot and these guys
:14:43. > :14:47.are well up for the fight. Wonder if their message is getting
:14:47. > :14:50.through? Well, unfortunately, according to Sainsbury's it might
:14:50. > :14:55.all be too late, the roundabout indeed seems set to go it's all
:14:55. > :14:57.just a matter of ironing out the new plans. In a statement they
:14:58. > :15:00.said: Councillors' decision to approve our plans was not
:15:00. > :15:02.challenged during the three-month judicial review period. In a
:15:02. > :15:04.meeting last year with local representatives we discussed the
:15:05. > :15:07.sensitivities and constraints of the overall scheme. We are pleased
:15:07. > :15:10.that the Leek Public Realm Steering Group recently voted to proceed
:15:10. > :15:20.with a local architect's option, and that it will be consulting the
:15:20. > :15:22.
:15:22. > :15:25.public again in due course. So, at the heart of this there
:15:25. > :15:28.appears to be two councils, the county council, who won't talk to
:15:28. > :15:31.us but sent us a statement, and they're saying that they're only
:15:31. > :15:38.following the plans layed out by the district council's masterplan
:15:38. > :15:45.for Leek. So let's see what the District Council have got to say.
:15:45. > :15:50.With young Alex firmly on the case, I joined her to get some answers.
:15:50. > :15:55.Why can't we save the roundabout when so many people want it?
:15:55. > :16:04.like the roundabout to stay but it's not possible. We are going to
:16:04. > :16:14.incorporate it into a garden area at the bottom of Derby Sreet. You
:16:14. > :16:15.
:16:15. > :16:17.will have flower beds and trees sitting there, but it has to moved.
:16:17. > :16:27.Job creation on the Moorlands, economic investment, flower beds
:16:27. > :16:27.
:16:27. > :16:37.don't put food on the table. might not put food on the table,
:16:37. > :16:44.but it's got people on this coach" It's seven o'clock in the morning,
:16:44. > :16:53.we on the route to London, and there is a good spirits. What I'm
:16:53. > :17:01.looking forward to most? Are you nervous? A little bit. But excited?
:17:01. > :17:10.Yes. I'm prepared, if the bulldozers come, I'm prepared to
:17:10. > :17:15.change myself to the lamp-post in the middle of the roundabout.
:17:15. > :17:20.Someone will have to remove me. If I do that, I will get a lot of
:17:20. > :17:30.people with me. That is quite extreme? That is how passionate I
:17:30. > :17:52.
:17:52. > :18:02.am. Shall we get in to investigate around about? Alex, we spoke to a
:18:02. > :18:02.
:18:02. > :18:11.local councillor, you be done that a local MP -- even met a local MP,
:18:11. > :18:21.what's left to do? We are going to Downing Street. Excited? Nervous? A
:18:21. > :18:26.
:18:26. > :18:31.little bit. I will look after you. We have handed in the petition,
:18:31. > :18:41.anything else to achieve? We have to say the roundabout, when not
:18:41. > :18:45.
:18:45. > :18:55.going to stop Punto has been saved. Let's hope that's done the trick.
:18:55. > :18:56.
:18:56. > :19:01.It will be saved. That's the end of Finally tonight, it seems that the
:19:01. > :19:05.Irish are coming. Economic problems there have led to a new wave of
:19:05. > :19:12.Irish immigrants looking for work in Birmingham. But will they get a
:19:12. > :19:16.better welcome now than they did 60 Birmingham has been the destination
:19:16. > :19:19.of choice for a deft -- generations of Irish immigrants. For many years
:19:19. > :19:29.it has had the third larger St Patrick's Day parade in the world
:19:29. > :19:30.
:19:30. > :19:33.and has a community of over 100,000 At Digbeth coach station, this has
:19:33. > :19:41.been the main arrival point for thousands of Irish migrants coming
:19:41. > :19:47.into Birmingham over the decades. For less than a mile up the road in
:19:47. > :19:56.St Ann's they will get a warm welcome at the Irish and Birmingham
:19:56. > :20:00.information and welfare centre for. We have about 150 people attending
:20:00. > :20:03.during the week, and we put a range of activities on. We provide them
:20:03. > :20:08.with a social setting where they can come. Some of these people
:20:08. > :20:11.might not see anyone from one end of the week to the next.
:20:11. > :20:14.Established in 1957, they provide welfare support to the settled
:20:14. > :20:21.Irish community as well as an information service for the latest
:20:21. > :20:24.arrivals looking for work. It tends to be probably 18 up to 30 year-
:20:24. > :20:27.olds coming at the moment. The demand on our service is a lot less
:20:27. > :20:33.than it used to be for the generation coming in because they
:20:33. > :20:38.have already made arrangements. global recession hit Ireland hard
:20:38. > :20:44.and unemployment stands at 14 %. Property prices have fallen through
:20:44. > :20:47.the floor. Now there is a new generation. Most Irish immigrants
:20:47. > :20:51.in recent years have further education qualifications like a
:20:51. > :20:54.degree or diploma, making them rather different from earlier
:20:54. > :21:01.generations, many of whom went to work in unskilled services or
:21:01. > :21:05.construction. There is no doubt the one of the areas that has had the
:21:05. > :21:09.most effect is young graduates coming out, because you have taken
:21:09. > :21:14.away their jobs in medical trade, the Education Trade, and the
:21:14. > :21:18.natural place for them to look is the UK. Graduates like Niall
:21:18. > :21:24.McCooey, after studying law in Ireland, secured himself a position
:21:24. > :21:28.with the law firm in Birmingham. What brought you to Birmingham?
:21:28. > :21:32.currently studying in the jewellery Quarter to start work with the law
:21:32. > :21:38.firm in September. The why Birmingham? Why not London? A good
:21:38. > :21:42.point. I think mostly because I have some family here and I could
:21:42. > :21:47.find my feet and get started and have some support. That influenced
:21:47. > :21:51.my choice, and also the fact I got a job. He is typical of young,
:21:51. > :21:55.well-educated professional migrants coming out of Ireland today. Very
:21:55. > :22:00.few of his friends have remained at home. I came from quite a rural
:22:00. > :22:04.part of Ireland, and many went to Dublin and Belfast and quite a few
:22:04. > :22:09.of my friends have been lucky and most of them have got work in those
:22:09. > :22:15.cities, and then some have come to the likes of Birmingham and London,
:22:15. > :22:19.and some have even gone further afield to like Australia and the US.
:22:19. > :22:22.Michelle tells a similar story. She is an occupational therapist, but
:22:22. > :22:31.when she finished her studies the any place she could find work was
:22:31. > :22:35.in Birmingham. I know people people in occupational therapy and Ireland
:22:35. > :22:39.would have walked into a job, and I know people you have done it. There
:22:39. > :22:43.would have been local work and short-term contracts, but they have
:22:43. > :22:50.stopped that now. What has the process been like in looking for a
:22:51. > :22:57.job back home? Has it been checking website regularly? Every day. I am
:22:57. > :23:02.on the same website constantly. My parents by the newspaper every day
:23:02. > :23:08.and check them, and I check every day, because there is such demand
:23:08. > :23:13.there could be something in the morning that is gone by the bin.
:23:13. > :23:18.How much do you miss your friends and family? I miss home every day.
:23:18. > :23:24.I don't think I will ever lose that ever. It is five-and-a-half years
:23:24. > :23:28.and I have not lasted. It wasn't so bad when I was studying, because I
:23:28. > :23:35.had Easter, the summer and I would look towards that, but when I got
:23:35. > :23:39.the job it was like, this is it, I have no set time to go home.
:23:39. > :23:44.what is it about the Irish economy that for generations has forced
:23:44. > :23:48.millions of people to leave their homes in search of work? The Irish
:23:48. > :23:52.economy is about 4.5 million people, roughly the size of the West
:23:52. > :23:59.Midlands conurbation, Birmingham, Coventry, Sandwell, all put
:23:59. > :24:02.together. It is a relatively small economy and people will typically
:24:02. > :24:06.look to go abroad to develop opportunities. So it is natural. It
:24:06. > :24:09.is what you would do if you lived in Birmingham or Manchester. It is
:24:09. > :24:15.what you do if you live in London. You can even look around at
:24:15. > :24:19.different places. Over at the Irish in Birmingham, they understand how
:24:19. > :24:26.hard it can be, when they arrived looking for work in the 50s and 60s,
:24:26. > :24:29.Britain was a very different place. Life was far from easy. Activity by
:24:30. > :24:39.the IRA and political tensions meant that the Irish were simply
:24:40. > :24:40.
:24:40. > :24:45.not welcomed. I didn't really like it to start with anyway. No Irish,
:24:45. > :24:49.No Blacks, no children. Those were on the windows if you're looking
:24:49. > :24:57.for Deeks. That must have been tough to begin with. You had left
:24:57. > :25:02.home and... Yes, it was very hard. That was not the type of thing we
:25:02. > :25:08.were used to. Everybody was the same. You would go out, get on the
:25:08. > :25:13.bus and no one would speak. I am sure it was because you are Irish,
:25:14. > :25:17.because as soon as you open your mouth they know you are. After many
:25:17. > :25:23.years, the Irish had made inroads in Birmingham, becoming a vital
:25:23. > :25:32.part of the wider community and infrastructure. But the pub
:25:32. > :25:39.The bombs were planted early in the evening, around �30 of blasting
:25:39. > :25:44.On a cold November night, the bombing of two city-centre pubs
:25:44. > :25:50.killed twenty-one people and injured 182. It was the worst
:25:50. > :25:54.terrorist attack on mainland Britain at the time. Birmingham was
:25:54. > :25:58.a home-from-home for the Irish. The pub bombings on their doorstep left
:25:58. > :26:04.them feeling killed riven and anxious. The community, once again,
:26:04. > :26:09.pushed into isolation. I was on the bus and I was outside Digbeth coach
:26:09. > :26:15.station when the bombs went off. You were so ashamed of the bombings.
:26:15. > :26:20.You had to hold your head down. felt ashamed? Why wouldn't you?
:26:20. > :26:26.Lives were lost. No matter who you are, you are a human being. Why
:26:26. > :26:31.take lives away? These days the Irish court is a proud focal point
:26:31. > :26:35.in Birmingham and the prejudice once held against them is long gone.
:26:35. > :26:38.I think the young people coming over don't have those issues to
:26:38. > :26:42.face. I think you'll find younger people coming over from Ireland,
:26:42. > :26:45.those bombings will never be mentioned and it won't come up in
:26:45. > :26:50.conversation, or the fact they are Irish, or any risk they might
:26:50. > :26:54.present. It is just not there anymore. So things are different
:26:54. > :27:00.now, but what worries Irish migrants today is whether they will
:27:00. > :27:03.find any work when they get here. But experts in Ireland are also
:27:03. > :27:09.concerned that history shows the likelihood of young immigrants ever
:27:09. > :27:12.returning diminishes the longer they are away. So many people are
:27:12. > :27:18.emigrating at the moment, and they come to cities like Birmingham, and
:27:18. > :27:23.I suppose a lot of them are in Korea's where they could move back,
:27:24. > :27:28.where as the job I am going into it is not that simple. I guess for
:27:28. > :27:35.them it is a more short-term view, or at least medium-term. Whereas
:27:35. > :27:41.for me it is medium up to long term. Paul Michel, the opportunity to
:27:41. > :27:45.return to her home in Ireland has finally come -- for Michelle.
:27:45. > :27:51.Thankfully I handed in my notice last Monday and it all came out all
:27:51. > :27:57.of a sudden. I have got a job in Northern Ireland, about an hour
:27:57. > :28:07.from where I live and I have taken it. I am going home in the next
:28:07. > :28:10.month. How do you feel about that? I'm very, very excited. The key
:28:10. > :28:20.question concerning emigration now is whether the economy in Ireland
:28:20. > :28:20.
:28:21. > :28:27.will recover in time to allow those That is all we have got for this
:28:27. > :28:33.week, but joined me again next Coming upon the programme next