:00:11. > :00:12.On tonight's show, we tell a little known story from World War
:00:13. > :00:17.I about two brothers from one of Birmingham's most famous falilies.
:00:18. > :00:24.They may have had different paths during the war but they started from
:00:25. > :00:27.the same place. They wanted to do what they felt they could do, as
:00:28. > :00:30.quickly as possible, to help the country.
:00:31. > :00:32.And following the success of the BBC film Marvellous about former
:00:33. > :00:39.Stoke City Kit man Neil Baldwin we find out more about the real Neil.
:00:40. > :00:46.My life has always been marvellous. Marvellous is a great word `nd I'm
:00:47. > :00:50.very pleased this has been done I'm Andy Akinwolere.
:00:51. > :01:10.Welcome to Inside Out. Absolute legend, especially around
:01:11. > :01:12.these parts. His story was turned into a film which went out on BBC
:01:13. > :01:15.Two on Thursday. It was transmitted last Thursday
:01:16. > :01:17.night and met rave reviews and the reaction
:01:18. > :01:19.on social media was immense. Neil is a well known at
:01:20. > :01:22.Keele University where he's worked unofficially
:01:23. > :01:24.as a student's friend for 50 years, and is a former a kit boy for his
:01:25. > :01:38.beloved football club, Stokd City. Who is this man? I think we should
:01:39. > :01:42.find out. Thursday night at Keele
:01:43. > :01:45.University's student union, and the crowds are gathering for thd
:01:46. > :01:53.showroom but Neal is worried about tonight. People are walking out
:01:54. > :01:59.already. 41, 42. Some more have just come in. For the first time, his
:02:00. > :02:04.story, well`known locally, hs about to be shared with 1.5 million
:02:05. > :02:09.people. He grew up in Stoke`on`Trent and was once labelled with learning
:02:10. > :02:12.difficulties but as his audhence are about to find out, this has never
:02:13. > :02:19.stopped him. For half a century he has been coming to the Univdrsity
:02:20. > :02:25.and help new students to settle in. How does it feel to have a solid? ``
:02:26. > :02:38.have this honour? It is a great night. This is my story. Right.
:02:39. > :02:44.Do you think your student friends will enjoy this? I hope so. The
:02:45. > :02:49.Premier is going well and the campuses captivated by Neal's
:02:50. > :02:57.approach to life. How do yot do it? How do you stay so positive? I have
:02:58. > :03:09.always wanted to be happy so I decided to be. Brilliant. I'm going
:03:10. > :03:15.to write some of the stuff down You think about good things. Thd film
:03:16. > :03:18.was incredible. It really dhd encapsulate Neil a person. His
:03:19. > :03:26.kindness, his warmth, his shmplicity but not in a bad way all. In a rare
:03:27. > :03:30.way. Can you drop me off on the way? It's not really on my way. Ht is if
:03:31. > :03:35.you go that way to drop me off. Yes, of course. Of course. Everyone loves
:03:36. > :03:46.Neal. He is a great charactdr to have around. `` Neil. It's ` great
:03:47. > :03:51.experience to him to do this and it's great to watch him, watch his
:03:52. > :03:54.story. At the end of the film, he is ready to addresses an audience but
:03:55. > :03:57.he wants a little introducthon from his friend of 50 years, Malcolm
:03:58. > :04:04.Clarke, whom he met here on campus. Hello. I'm Neil Baldwin. Welcome to
:04:05. > :04:15.Keele University. Hello, I'l Malcolm. Stoke City fan? Very much
:04:16. > :04:20.so. Are you? Yeah, yeah I al. Introduce...
:04:21. > :04:27.I hope I've lived up to the billing. I think it's absolutely brilliant,
:04:28. > :04:32.marvellous. Way they capturdd the essence of this man I thought was
:04:33. > :04:43.superb. The amazing thing is, it's all true. Marvellous was marvellous.
:04:44. > :04:46.It has been a great life. And for Malcolm, his lifelong friend, who
:04:47. > :04:50.also features in the film, ht's the end of a four`year process but even
:04:51. > :04:53.in the early days when the phone was being discussed, his student friends
:04:54. > :04:57.looked out for him and he looked out for them. I will tell you a small
:04:58. > :05:02.story. When I introduced hil for the first time to the people who were
:05:03. > :05:07.interested in making the film, the captain of Neal's football team came
:05:08. > :05:12.up, came with him and after a short while, he made his apologies and
:05:13. > :05:16.left. I then realised that he had come just to make sure that we were
:05:17. > :05:22.bone fide and this wasn't some kind of a scam. When he was sure about
:05:23. > :05:25.that, he went on his way, and I think that sums up the care that the
:05:26. > :05:33.students chauffeur him, just as he looks after them. My life h`s always
:05:34. > :05:42.been marvellous. I have alw`ys said marvellous is a great word `nd I'm
:05:43. > :05:46.very pleased that it has bedn done. I have been told I do quite a good
:05:47. > :05:54.impression of Neil Baldwin. Is that right? Do an impression of le. My
:05:55. > :06:03.name is Jack! There you go. BBC radio Stoke. So many of you talking
:06:04. > :06:07.about Marvellous this morning. It is the day after the night before
:06:08. > :06:15.and the reaction to the fill on social media show it has captured
:06:16. > :06:24.the nation's imagination. W`tch Marvellous on BBC Two. Cannot stop
:06:25. > :06:33.smiling. George, watch Marvdllous on BBC Two. Utter inspiration. Steve,
:06:34. > :06:41.marvellous on BBC Two, what a lovely piece of television. He seels a
:06:42. > :06:51.great man, full of good. I think everybody who came and everxbody who
:06:52. > :06:55.works on the film was great. Hello. The phone is ringing off thd hook
:06:56. > :07:03.but Neal cannot afford to slow down. He runs a football team and is
:07:04. > :07:10.looking for new recruits. It's my own team, picked by me, man`ged by
:07:11. > :07:16.name, captained by me. At ldast you cannot be dropped. Exactly.
:07:17. > :07:24.I'm making a poster for my football team on Monday and Tuesday `t Keele
:07:25. > :07:31.University. It shows that M`rvellous has been a great film. It's to get
:07:32. > :07:40.people to sign up. Being hole alone also offers him a chance to reflect.
:07:41. > :07:44.Gemma Jones plays the character of his mum. My mum was a great mum and
:07:45. > :07:55.I'm proud of what she has done for me. It... I have been trying to be
:07:56. > :08:04.happy in my life, and I've `lways tried to.
:08:05. > :08:10.If in doubt, when I'm not hdre, ask Doris on the till. She will tell you
:08:11. > :08:15.what is healthy and what is not Doris? She doesn't look all that
:08:16. > :08:19.well to me. She can keep an eye out for you. Looks like I should be
:08:20. > :08:21.keeping an eye on her. For goodness sake. All I want to know is you can
:08:22. > :08:39.stand on your own two feet. It is Sunday morning and Ne`l is
:08:40. > :08:47.back on campus for the 53rd year, ready to greet the new studdnts
:08:48. > :08:53.arriving. `` Neil. All the best in your studies at Keele University.
:08:54. > :08:56.All the best. There is a stream of well`wishers stopping to
:08:57. > :09:06.congratulate him on his TV debut. It will be a poorer place without him.
:09:07. > :09:10.We have known this guy is a special person for a long time and now what
:09:11. > :09:16.makes us happy is the rest of the world knows about him and hhs
:09:17. > :09:22.legend. It's a treat to see. He s getting the recognition I'vd always
:09:23. > :09:23.thought he deserved. Today hs just a welcome day for the students.
:09:24. > :09:29.Tomorrow, Neal will be players were his football club. So I
:09:30. > :09:37.thought I would get in earlx and see if I was good enough to makd the
:09:38. > :09:43.squad. But `` Neil. What do you reckon? I think you're very good. Of
:09:44. > :09:54.ten. But are you good at making cups of tea and washing kit? Comd and
:09:55. > :10:00.join our football club! Tod`y is our final day filming. He is recruiting
:10:01. > :10:06.for his reporting. Fridays, for until six. It's at the sports
:10:07. > :10:12.centre. His lifelong friend, Malcolm Clarke, is here to with him.
:10:13. > :10:16.Welcome, you know him better than anyone. Has he changed much since
:10:17. > :10:23.the film has come out? I thhnk he is loving the exposure but bashcally, I
:10:24. > :10:29.don't think it will go to hhs head. He has always been comfortable with
:10:30. > :10:29.being very well`known and the this takes it to a new level. Once people
:10:30. > :11:36.do series.
:11:37. > :11:47.Each year there are 400 deaths as a result of drowning. That yot have
:11:48. > :11:51.got to understand how tempthng it must be to go for a swim,
:11:52. > :15:11.considering the amazing sumler we have had. I
:15:12. > :15:14.careful in open water. It is different to this lovely pool. But
:15:15. > :15:25.lidos like this are not avahlable to everyone. These facilities `re not
:15:26. > :15:29.cheap. How can we encourage local councils to get behind this?
:15:30. > :15:36.and I think we?d be unrealistic to expect every council to build
:15:37. > :15:40.a new lido ` but you can have safe swimming in open water sites.
:15:41. > :15:46.So putting life guards on a reservoir and patrolling it
:15:47. > :15:49.like they do at the beach, it?s not impossible to do that,
:15:50. > :15:52.you just need to find the rhght sort of water, the right conditions and
:15:53. > :16:10.You are seeing is about safdty, but also about creativity. We all need
:16:11. > :16:27.to learn about risk and how to manage it. I know first`hand how
:16:28. > :16:34.dangerous the water can be. Four years ago I learned to swim and it
:16:35. > :16:37.was not a pretty sight. Then I was in the deepest ocean on earth, but
:16:38. > :16:53.it was all under the watchftl eyes of my safety team.
:16:54. > :16:56.But out here, if you choose to get in the water
:16:57. > :16:59.fall into difficulty, I mean look around, it?s pretty remote.
:17:00. > :17:10.Even while we were doing thd interview children were plaxing in
:17:11. > :17:16.the river. We?re just here and there are
:17:17. > :17:19.clearly a lot of signs about. I can?t get over it, no,
:17:20. > :17:26.it?s devastating, I just want to go up to her and say,
:17:27. > :17:40.what do you think you?re dohng, If we use common sense we c`n reduce
:17:41. > :17:56.the risks. Spot the danger. Take the safety advice.
:17:57. > :18:05.Only ever enter water where it?s safe and there?s a lifeguard
:18:06. > :18:10.We?re working with the council to get signs up and buoyancy ahds,
:18:11. > :18:15.fencing and working with thd RLSS because we strongly believe that the
:18:16. > :18:20.schools have swimming lessons which was the practical, but they don t
:18:21. > :18:22.have the water safety, which is the theory, so that?s what
:18:23. > :18:33.And for you to see the signs now must seem
:18:34. > :18:46.Yeah, it means that someone has listened to what we?ve had to
:18:47. > :18:51.say and hopefully it will s`ve another family going through
:18:52. > :19:31.Now I promised it to you at the top of the show and herd it is `
:19:32. > :19:34.Two brothers from one of Birmingham's most famous falilies,
:19:35. > :19:37.Laurence and Bertie Cadbury, saw plenty of action on the frontline
:19:38. > :19:41.Former boxer Richie Woodhall uncovers a tale full of conflict
:19:42. > :19:53.Laurence and Bertie Cadbury wrote lots of letters to each othdr
:19:54. > :19:55.Both risked their lives facing dangers they
:19:56. > :19:59.With special access to their private papers we?re going to
:20:00. > :20:08.Dear Bertie, all the guns in creation seem to be here?
:20:09. > :20:20.I?m on my way to Bournevilld, home to Cadbury?s world famous
:20:21. > :20:33.I feel quite excited and privileged. I?ve come to meet
:20:34. > :20:43.historian Rebecca Wynter who has read all of the letters.
:20:44. > :20:47.She knows the brothers' story better than the Cadburys themselves.
:20:48. > :20:50.They are absolutely of fighting age, so there would have been thhs
:20:51. > :20:53.decision that they would have had to have made as to exactly what are
:20:54. > :21:02.The letters show Laurence w`s the first to go, not as a fhghter,
:21:03. > :21:05.but as a founding member of the Friends Ambulance Unht.
:21:06. > :21:10.They were a group of young Puakers volunteers.
:21:11. > :21:13.His younger brother Bertie wanted to fight and joined the Roy`l
:21:14. > :21:20.I went to Chingford where I learned to fly and having got
:21:21. > :21:23.on rather fast I transferred to this station, which is said to bd
:21:24. > :21:31.Like many families today thd Cadburys don't know this
:21:32. > :21:42.I think it's fascinating because I didn?t really talk to
:21:43. > :21:46.my father about the war and he never spoke to me about it.
:21:47. > :21:52.I'm learning about the roles my father played
:21:53. > :21:57.in it, that my uncle Egbert played in it, and that's education`l
:21:58. > :22:08.Sir Dominic Cadbury is Laurdnce s son and he?s keen to hear more about
:22:09. > :22:16.On our arrival it was prettx evident we had to get busy good and quick,
:22:17. > :22:21.The letters, which have been hidden away in the archives
:22:22. > :22:24.at the University of Birmingham for decades, document Laurence `nd
:22:25. > :22:36.You've read all the letters which I haven't.
:22:37. > :22:42.I know he went at the earliest opportunity to France.
:22:43. > :22:49.They race across and the large doors open and they're
:22:50. > :22:56.confronted with a mass of sdething humanity, they're on the floor,
:22:57. > :22:59.on straw, they've been therd for three days, so the stench is quite
:23:00. > :23:17.So this is their first introduction to war
:23:18. > :23:20.I'm keen to find out what lhfe was like for Bertie and
:23:21. > :23:33.Pilots back then were like pioneers. The planes that they flew are still
:23:34. > :23:39.flying today. These hangars at the Shuttldworth
:23:40. > :23:45.Collection in Bedfordshire `re By keeping them flying they try to
:23:46. > :23:50.keep the memories While Bertie's early letters capture
:23:51. > :24:04.his excitement, after just ` month at his base in Great Yarmouth the
:24:05. > :24:09.reality of war was hitting home I heartily agree with you about this
:24:10. > :24:13.bloody murder that's going on. Nearly all
:24:14. > :24:19.the men I know have been done in. 14,000 British airmen died hn
:24:20. > :24:21.World War One. The average life expectancy
:24:22. > :24:28.for a new pilot was just 11 days. It was a very dangerous lifdstyle,
:24:29. > :24:34.there's no doubts about that. Compared with what we experhence
:24:35. > :24:36.today they were indeed sacrhficed Young people think of themsdlves as
:24:37. > :24:58.invincible. Another visitor has dropped
:24:59. > :25:03.in hoping to learn more Being from
:25:04. > :25:11.a Quaker family do you think your Yes I think he was, reading
:25:12. > :25:17.a little more into the history. To me he was a loving grandpa,
:25:18. > :25:20.but indeed he was a rebel, With his gunner he shot
:25:21. > :25:38.down two German Zeppelin bolbers. Like Sir Dominic, Justin never heard
:25:39. > :26:07.the story from the man himsdlf, but I turned my machine and att`cked the
:26:08. > :26:13.Zeppelin head on. Within a latter of seconds flames started weephng.
:26:14. > :26:25.Within a short time she went hurtling down.
:26:26. > :26:27.Wow, I can't say any words to match what
:26:28. > :26:36.It's an extraordinary piece of history, I can absolutelx hear
:26:37. > :26:41.and feel the man as he tells the story it's awe inspiring.
:26:42. > :26:44.Going to war was a huge dildmma for the Cadbury brothers because
:26:45. > :26:48.they were Quakers and their famous father George was committed to the
:26:49. > :26:58.The letters also show the brother's began to doubt their decisions.
:26:59. > :27:00.While Bertie spoke of bloodx murder, Laurence's papers show he
:27:01. > :27:09.Something his war hero brother strongly advised against.
:27:10. > :27:12.To join now would be disastrous so for God's sake don't dre`m
:27:13. > :27:15.of doing so for I'm absolutdly positive you would regret it.
:27:16. > :27:17.While Laurence worried about whether he should fight, thd letters
:27:18. > :27:22.With a plunk and a roar, up go bits of the house and the air
:27:23. > :27:25.You can?t turn and run as inclination suggests.
:27:26. > :27:29.For all of the dangers and dilemmas they faced, both Bertie and Laurence
:27:30. > :27:32.stood by their decisions and the units they served in.
:27:33. > :27:34.Both brothers were decorated for bravery and the Cadburys
:27:35. > :27:44.An important detail for the family today.
:27:45. > :27:58.They may have had different paths but started from the same place
:27:59. > :28:11.and would not have thought they were as different as we do now.
:28:12. > :28:17.Richie Woodhall there with the Cadbury brothers' storids.
:28:18. > :28:21.Maybe you'd like to find out some more stories
:28:22. > :28:23.from where you live ` go to the bbc website bbc.co.uk/hhstory
:28:24. > :28:25.and punch your postcode in to discover dozens of
:28:26. > :29:05.Next week we will have thred more stories.
:29:06. > :29:07.Hello, I'm Sophie Long with your 90 second update.
:29:08. > :29:09.A freeze on working-age benefits for two years.
:29:10. > :29:11.That's among the Chancellor's plans to cut welfare
:29:12. > :29:14.and the nation's debt if the Tories win next year's general election.
:29:15. > :29:15.Pensions, disability and maternity pay
:29:16. > :29:20.wouldn't be affected but Jobseekers Allowance and child benefit would.
:29:21. > :29:24.Ann Maguire was stabbed to death at a Leeds school in April.
:29:25. > :29:26.Today thousands attended a memorial service for the teacher.
:29:27. > :29:29.Her family say they've been comforted by the community.