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:00:02. > :00:05.Hello. Tonight we're in Bristol, a city that finds itself in the

:00:05. > :00:14.national spotlight once again as the Jo Yeates murder trial reaches

:00:14. > :00:24.its conclusion. Vincent Tabak guilty of murder. And

:00:24. > :00:27.following the case new revelations about his shady background.

:00:27. > :00:33.It is a manipulative man, very cunning, he watched this

:00:33. > :00:38.investigation unfold. Also in the programme, this man says he can

:00:38. > :00:41.help you avoid paying for care in your old age. I'm here to show you

:00:41. > :00:48.how you can avoid care fees. good to be true? And should this

:00:48. > :00:51.man be allowed to seek help from his wife to end his life? I don't

:00:51. > :00:59.be -- I don't think people realise what an awful thing it is, you

:00:59. > :01:01.cannot relieve their pain. This is all I can do for him. With

:01:01. > :01:11.surprising stories from familiar places you're watching Inside Out

:01:11. > :01:14.

:01:14. > :01:17.This is Canynge Road in Bristol, a street we've all become familiar

:01:17. > :01:21.with after the events of the 17th December last year. It was here

:01:21. > :01:23.that Jo Yeates met her death at the hands of her next door neighbour

:01:23. > :01:26.Vincent Tabak. After the jury delivered its verdict, additional

:01:26. > :01:28.evidence emerged that Tabak had accessed violent pornography on his

:01:28. > :01:38.computer. Our home affairs correspondent Steve Brodie has been

:01:38. > :01:43.

:01:43. > :01:45.investigating the secret life of Tabak thought his cleverness and

:01:45. > :01:49.deceit would prevent him being convicted of a brutal murder. He

:01:49. > :01:58.was wrong. He is a manipulative man, very cunning, he watched this

:01:58. > :02:03.investigation unfold. We fully expected him to lie when he went

:02:03. > :02:09.into the witness box Jo Yeates' killer is behind bars. Vincent

:02:09. > :02:12.Tabak. Guilty of a murder that's dominated the news for weeks.

:02:12. > :02:15.Tonight I talk exclusively to the man in charge of his defence, and

:02:15. > :02:22.ask why the judge wouldn't admit evidence about Tabak's contact with

:02:22. > :02:27.prostitutes and his use of violent pornography. It proved very little

:02:27. > :02:33.as to what actually happened in the fatal few minutes in Joanna's flat.

:02:33. > :02:36.Jo Yeates was murdered here days before Christmas. But after a

:02:36. > :02:42.three-week trial, we're no closer to knowing the truth of those

:02:42. > :02:47.fateful minutes. Tabak said he was invited in. Jo was his neighbour.

:02:47. > :02:53.That he misread the signs. And he didn't mean to kill her. No-one

:02:53. > :02:59.believed him, especially the man who caught him. We believe that

:02:59. > :03:02.Joanna was killed very shortly after she arrived home. The only

:03:02. > :03:11.two people who know what happened that night, one is Jo and

:03:11. > :03:16.unfortunately, she was killed. And it's Vincent Tabak. So who is

:03:16. > :03:21.Vincent Tabak? I sat in this court day after day for three weeks

:03:21. > :03:24.watching him, he was always calm and collected. He would sit with

:03:24. > :03:30.his head in his hands, only feet away from Jo's parents and her

:03:30. > :03:35.boyfriend, Greg Reardon. And even when the judge sent him down for a

:03:35. > :03:38.minimum of 20 years, he again showed little, if any emotion. I

:03:38. > :03:41.was there when they discovered Jo's body on Christmas Day, left by the

:03:41. > :03:49.side of the road and covered in leaves and snow, and when the

:03:49. > :03:52.missing person's inquiry turned into a murder hunt. That would

:03:52. > :04:01.ultimately bring out Tabak's lies and an interest in prostitutes and

:04:01. > :04:04.hardcore, violent pornography that Tabak's story starts in Holland

:04:04. > :04:14.where the police first really interviewed him and the people who

:04:14. > :04:17.

:04:17. > :04:20.knew him. People that we spoke to there describe almost a social

:04:20. > :04:22.inadequate, couldn't put it in any different words to that. Someone

:04:22. > :04:29.who was probably not particularly comfortable around woman,

:04:29. > :04:32.comfortable in social circumstances, even amongst his peers. This is a

:04:32. > :04:42.view shared by some of those who knew Tabak here, Uden, Holland,

:04:42. > :04:45.

:04:45. > :04:49.where he grew up. Sometimes, he say something, sometimes he was in his

:04:49. > :04:52.own and he didn't see you and he didn't say anything. There was home,

:04:52. > :04:55.old parents, a little boy only in the house, older brother and

:04:55. > :05:05.sisters were out of the house, so, I think he was perhaps a little

:05:05. > :05:08.lonesome. But it was back to that family in Holland that Tabak

:05:08. > :05:15.travelled for the New Year, calmly, coolly, with his girlfriend, days

:05:15. > :05:18.after killing Jo. As her parents laid their flowers in the snow,

:05:18. > :05:24.Tabak was online, already looking to keep one step ahead of the

:05:24. > :05:27.investigation. He researched details of the unsolved murders of

:05:27. > :05:35.Melanie Hall and Anni Dewani, looked up how he could get rid of

:05:35. > :05:38.evidence and even watched a time lapse video of a body decomposing.

:05:38. > :05:43.You've heard the evidence from his internet use of how he was

:05:43. > :05:46.monitoring media reports. He'd also researched around the definitions

:05:46. > :05:48.of murder and manslaughter, so he was fully aware of what we, the

:05:48. > :05:57.prosecution, had to prove for murder, and likewise, what was

:05:57. > :06:04.necessary for manslaughter. But it was the other websites he was

:06:04. > :06:06.looking at that really concerned the police. On the morning of the

:06:06. > :06:09.murder he was looking at pornography but more chillingly

:06:09. > :06:12.days after strangling Jo, he was watching violent hardcore images of

:06:12. > :06:21.men choking women during sex, images of women tied up in car

:06:21. > :06:23.boots, and others being bound and gagged. But the judge ruled this

:06:23. > :06:28.information couldn't be put before the jury, even Tabak's girlfriend

:06:28. > :06:30.and her father knew nothing about it, and told us it was depraved.

:06:30. > :06:33.Neither could the jury hear that Tabak had contacted prostitutes

:06:33. > :06:40.while in the US on business, including at this hotel, where he

:06:40. > :06:44.checked in under a false name. The judge said none of this could prove

:06:44. > :06:48.the killing was premeditated. And Tabak's defence lawyer, who spoke

:06:48. > :06:51.exclusively to me just two hours before the verdict, agreed.

:06:51. > :06:57.Sometimes people think because there is some bad character, or

:06:57. > :07:03.reprehensive behaviour, it must go in. It doesn't follow that it has

:07:03. > :07:06.to go in. It has to go in to prove a point. Even if it had been

:07:06. > :07:09.admissible, there's then the further test as to whether it would

:07:09. > :07:17.be prejudicial and derail a fair trial, we didn't actually get to

:07:17. > :07:22.that. But it clearly in my view would've been prejudicial. It

:07:22. > :07:25.didn't actually go to what actually happened in that period of time.

:07:25. > :07:31.But Tabak's lawyer admits they never claimed that Tabak was an

:07:31. > :07:36.innocent. Whilst the material may well have been considered

:07:36. > :07:38.reprehensible in many respects. What the judge did say is that Mr

:07:38. > :07:46.Tabak could not promote himself effectively before the jury as a

:07:47. > :07:50.man of good character. Mr Clegg who conducted the defence for Mr Tabak

:07:50. > :07:53.was at pains to ensure we did not go down that path. We were very

:07:54. > :07:59.neutral when it came to Mr Tabak's character. Jo's family have mixed

:07:59. > :08:02.views. Her brother Chris told us the jury should have known about

:08:02. > :08:07.Tabak's character, but no-one wanted a prejudiced trial, or an

:08:07. > :08:12.appeal. Her father said it was right the jury didn't know and

:08:12. > :08:15.wasn't certain the pornography had contributed to the murder. This

:08:15. > :08:18.barrister and member of the justice select committee acknowledges that

:08:18. > :08:24.had Tabak got away with murder, there could've been public outrage

:08:24. > :08:27.The public will rightly ask questions and be concerned. But I

:08:27. > :08:30.think they need reassuring that the law has been changed, that material

:08:30. > :08:40.is capable of being admitted before a jury, but only on a very strict

:08:40. > :08:43.test of relevance. And let's imagine for a moment, that it's you

:08:43. > :08:46.or me in the dock, or any of our friends and family, we would expect

:08:46. > :08:49.fairness, we would expect strict tests to be applied when it comes

:08:49. > :08:52.to previous material relating to bad character that may have

:08:52. > :08:55.happened years ago, which may not have any relevance in the case, but

:08:55. > :09:04.which if it went in before a jury, could unfairly prejudice a

:09:04. > :09:07.defendant in their eyes. I'd rather have safe convictions and fair

:09:07. > :09:15.trials than witch hunts and a general blackening of character

:09:15. > :09:24.which is irrelevant to the issue in the case. I think we've got the

:09:24. > :09:27.Jo Yeates' father David has told the BBC he was still trying to come

:09:27. > :09:30.to terms with what he felt, he's still got a lot of unanswered

:09:30. > :09:35.questions, but at least he's got a starting point for the rest of his

:09:35. > :09:39.life. As far as Vincent Tabak is concerned, we still don't know

:09:39. > :09:47.everything about his secret life. The police are still questioning

:09:47. > :09:54.him and there could be further Steve Brodie on the trial of

:09:54. > :09:57.Vincent Tabak who was found guilty of murder on Friday. Later in the

:09:57. > :10:06.programme the Wiltshire man hoping that a change in the law will allow

:10:06. > :10:13.his wife to assist in his death. Some days it this life gets too

:10:13. > :10:17.much for me and a break down and Needing care when you're older

:10:17. > :10:20.could cost around �50,000 a year. So, when someone tells you that he

:10:20. > :10:24.has a way of getting someone else to foot the bill, well, that sounds

:10:24. > :10:26.like a tempting offer. David Whiteley's been investigating a

:10:26. > :10:36.company targeting pensioners here in the West with just such a

:10:36. > :10:41.promise. One in four of us will need long-

:10:41. > :10:45.term care and if you have more than �23,000 in savings and property you

:10:45. > :10:52.will be expected to pay for your care. That is a worry for some

:10:52. > :10:55.people who would rather keep their assets in the family. I am a co-

:10:55. > :11:01.founder of the Universal Group and I am here to show you how you can

:11:01. > :11:05.avoid care fees. This man claims he knows how you can avoid fees. He

:11:05. > :11:13.says he is better than a solicitor. Your local solicitor wouldn't be

:11:13. > :11:18.able to do this. They come to us to do it. Five years ago Bernard and

:11:18. > :11:22.Christine wanted new wills. They went to Steve long. Earlier this

:11:22. > :11:30.year he phoned Bernard unexpectedly. His business had a new product, to

:11:30. > :11:35.avoid care fees. He said you could get out of paying care home fees by

:11:35. > :11:42.setting this trussed up that would stop the council getting their

:11:42. > :11:48.hands on your money. -- setting this trussed up. It would be �3,000.

:11:48. > :11:55.It is a lot of money. Our first reaction was, we would have to

:11:55. > :12:01.think about that. In the end he managed to talk us into agreeing

:12:01. > :12:08.with him, but I have since found that if a trust was set up for that

:12:08. > :12:13.sole purpose, that would disqualify itself. Beryl also had a visit from

:12:13. > :12:21.Steve long. He said the money would all be ring-fenced that you

:12:21. > :12:26.couldn't, the government couldn't get hold of it. For care home fees.

:12:26. > :12:36.He suddenly says there is a fee you have to pay, and if possible we

:12:36. > :12:38.

:12:38. > :12:44.would like to have it tonight. It was �3,500. We have asked several

:12:44. > :12:48.solicitors and they have told us similar trusts would cost between

:12:48. > :12:55.712 hundred pounds. Care home fees cannot run to thousands of pounds

:12:55. > :13:01.he year so it is only natural to worry about these costs. Steve runs

:13:01. > :13:06.seminars to explain his solutions to these concerns.

:13:06. > :13:11.We went to some of his seminars and listened to whose claims about

:13:11. > :13:21.himself and his products. This one was in Bristol. We do seminars like

:13:21. > :13:21.

:13:21. > :13:24.this for solicitors. You have the whole room of solicitors

:13:24. > :13:34.specialising in elderly client care and not one of them knows how to do

:13:34. > :13:35.

:13:35. > :13:40.it. It is a specialist niche stop - - specialist niche. Caroline is a

:13:40. > :13:48.solicitor specialising in wills and Administration of Estates. Perils

:13:48. > :13:54.of professional lawyers who undertake wills and trusts, and

:13:54. > :13:59.membership of solicitors for the elderly will have many thousands of

:13:59. > :14:04.members together he would be able to set up these sorts of trusts.

:14:04. > :14:11.But also they have to have a very good working understanding of

:14:11. > :14:15.social care assessments and funding. She wants to make sure that Peter's

:14:15. > :14:20.inheritance... The man behind the group is Stephen long. In his

:14:20. > :14:24.seminars he makes many claims that make him and his companies and

:14:24. > :14:28.well-connected and important. work with a top barrister in the

:14:28. > :14:32.country, we do seminars with solicitors. We have spoken to the

:14:32. > :14:37.Bar Council and they told us no one would claim to be the country's top

:14:37. > :14:41.barrister. He doesn't seem to be quite as well connected as he

:14:41. > :14:48.claims, but he does sound well qualified. And a qualified

:14:48. > :14:52.accountant and a lawyer. He isn't. We have checked with the UK

:14:52. > :14:57.accountancy organisations and the solicitors Regulation Authority. He

:14:57. > :15:02.is a member of the Society of trusts and Estate Practitioners.

:15:03. > :15:07.How accurate are his crimes? An undercover producer asked him if

:15:07. > :15:12.the elderly person who isn't well could use one of the trusts to

:15:12. > :15:17.avoid care fees. Provided he hasn't already been assessed or receiving

:15:17. > :15:21.care, it is straightforward. local authority will look at the

:15:21. > :15:27.reasons for trust was actually created, and if they feel it was

:15:27. > :15:31.done for the purpose of putting the asset beyond their reach, then of

:15:31. > :15:37.course they could take it into account in an assessment and treat

:15:37. > :15:40.the person as if they still have the asset. If the motive is to

:15:41. > :15:48.avoid paying care home fees the trust may end up doing precisely

:15:48. > :15:52.the opposite. That is exactly how Steve Long markets his product.

:15:52. > :15:56.am here to show you how you can avoid fees. In the end it is the

:15:56. > :15:59.local authority who decides so we asked the local government

:15:59. > :16:03.association which represents local authorities just what the rules are.

:16:03. > :16:08.They told us if you put your assets into a trust deliberately designed

:16:08. > :16:12.to avoid care fees the local authority can treat you as they

:16:12. > :16:16.used still own the assets. That seems clear. So we wrote to Mr Long

:16:16. > :16:20.to explain why he gives misleading statements in his seminars. His

:16:20. > :16:24.office told us he was out of the country until the end of the week.

:16:24. > :16:27.Then is of his claim some of his mistakes were due to an ear

:16:27. > :16:31.infection. I hope his hearing is better now because he is still in

:16:31. > :16:38.the country and giving a seminar at this hotel here in Gloucester and

:16:38. > :16:43.they do hope his hearing is better. I have got a few questions for him.

:16:43. > :16:48.His office said universal asset protection is totally committed to

:16:48. > :16:55.excellent customer care and that their fees are not excessive. But

:16:55. > :16:59.he has not given specific answers to most of our questions. I have

:16:59. > :17:02.got to rescue a question. Why is it you are selling a product called

:17:02. > :17:07.How to avoid care fees when by marketing it as that you are in

:17:07. > :17:11.fact possibly, could be, rendering it useless. That is not the advice

:17:11. > :17:16.we have received. Nice of you to have come unannounced into a

:17:16. > :17:20.seminar. We have been in touch, asked you a few questions about the

:17:21. > :17:24.validity of what you're doing with these trusts. Actually wear

:17:24. > :17:27.advertising ourselves as how to avoid care fees you are shooting

:17:27. > :17:32.yourself in the third. It is not the advice we have received.

:17:32. > :17:37.have you received it from, this is from the government?

:17:37. > :17:41.When we look at the cases we dealt with and you have put me on the

:17:41. > :17:46.spot... A we have been trying to get in touch with you, your office

:17:46. > :17:49.told us you are the country. I am not prepared to discuss and

:17:49. > :17:55.television the intellectual property we have, all I can say is

:17:55. > :17:58.the trust that we used as 100% track-record, we have documentary

:17:58. > :18:03.evidence of local authorities except in the trust works.

:18:03. > :18:08.market yourself as one of only five companies but specialises in this

:18:08. > :18:11.kind of the elderly care trusts and that is not true. We say we are one

:18:11. > :18:15.of five specialist providers that we know of their provide these for

:18:15. > :18:18.other people. Any firm of solicitors who knows and

:18:18. > :18:23.understands the rules around this would be able to do that. Strange

:18:23. > :18:28.that he said the opposite when he didn't know he was being recorded.

:18:28. > :18:33.Your local solicitor will not be able to do this. It is a specialist

:18:34. > :18:37.niche. So which Mr Long should we believe and what, I learn? If you

:18:37. > :18:40.are thinking of putting your property into a trust to avoid care

:18:40. > :18:50.fees remember, they are not suitable for everyone and they may

:18:50. > :18:50.

:18:50. > :18:56.not work. My first reaction was to say no. But he continued and

:18:56. > :19:06.eventually wore a stand. If you have put him you'll know he is a

:19:06. > :19:09.pleasant man and obviously a good And if there's something you'd like

:19:09. > :19:18.us to investigate then why not get in touch? Our email address is

:19:18. > :19:24.It is one of the most difficult ethical questions of our time is it

:19:24. > :19:27.ever acceptable to assist in the death of a loved one? In the next

:19:27. > :19:30.few weeks, the Commission on Assisted Dying is due to present

:19:30. > :19:40.its recommendations on what system, if any, should be set up to allow

:19:40. > :19:44.Like most people I didn't give suicide a thought despite being

:19:44. > :19:48.able to do it legally. Then I had my stroke and the choice of life or

:19:48. > :19:51.death was taken away from me. It certainly is true that you don't

:19:51. > :19:55.know what you have until you no longer have it. Tony Nicklinson

:19:55. > :20:02.would like to end his life. Six years ago, a massive stroke left

:20:02. > :20:05.him paralysed below the neck and unable to speak. His condition is

:20:05. > :20:11.called locked in syndrome. He is rarely able to leave his home in

:20:11. > :20:15.Melksham. Right from the word go, when he was still in intensive care,

:20:15. > :20:20.I said to the doctors, he won't want to live like this. We knew it

:20:20. > :20:25.would come. But because of his disabilities,

:20:25. > :20:29.Tony needs his wife Jane to help him to end his life. For this, she

:20:29. > :20:36.could face a murder charge. So together, they are trying to change

:20:36. > :20:44.the law. I can't see how anybody could think it's right that Tony's

:20:44. > :20:47.right to take his own life has been taken away. Jane has told her

:20:47. > :20:51.husband's story to a commission set up to explore whether people should

:20:51. > :21:01.be given assistance to die. The commission has been contacted by

:21:01. > :21:03.

:21:03. > :21:06.over a thousand people since it launched a year ago. In the coming

:21:06. > :21:09.weeks, it'll report its suggestions to Parliament. Something in excess

:21:09. > :21:11.of 80% of the population in the UK would like some change in

:21:11. > :21:15.legislation. But the work of the commission has enraged those

:21:15. > :21:18.campaigners who don't want a change in the law. There's no chance of it

:21:18. > :21:28.producing any worthwhile conclusion at all. It's purely a publicity

:21:28. > :21:33.

:21:33. > :21:39.Tributes have been paid to the husband and wife from acrobat who

:21:39. > :21:42.travelled to a Swiss euthanasia clinic. More than 150 people have

:21:42. > :21:44.ended their lives by travelling from the UK to countries where

:21:44. > :21:47.assisted suicide is legal. Nobody has yet been prosecuted for

:21:47. > :21:51.accompanying them. But assisting somebody to end their life is

:21:51. > :21:57.illegal in the UK, which means Tony Nicklinson must continue to live a

:21:57. > :22:00.life that's unrecognizable from the one he enjoyed before his stroke.

:22:00. > :22:05.He was the life and soul of the party type. An ex-rugby player, a

:22:05. > :22:10.real alpha male, bit of a daredevil. You know, he went sky diving, did

:22:10. > :22:17.all sorts of crazy things. Tony could outlive Jane. His condition

:22:17. > :22:25.might not cut his life short. But now, being unable to speak, move or

:22:25. > :22:31.do anything for himself life has become unbearable for him. He

:22:31. > :22:35.communicates using a computer that recognises his eye movements.

:22:35. > :22:38.case, I awake with dread, knowing that I will have to endure another

:22:38. > :22:41.session of being manhandled by the carers as they shower and dress me

:22:41. > :22:51.to get ready for yet another tedious day. Some days, this life

:22:51. > :22:51.

:22:51. > :22:54.gets too much for me and I break down and cry. He knows that a time

:22:54. > :22:57.will come when he says enough is enough, and really his only option

:22:57. > :23:00.is Switzerland, which he might possibly consider eventually, if

:23:00. > :23:05.our legal case doesn't pan out, or starvation, which is a very nasty

:23:05. > :23:08.way to go. It seemed critically important to all of us, that we

:23:08. > :23:13.went out to see how those countries that had changed legislation, how

:23:13. > :23:15.the change was managed in practice. But I think it's unlikely we'd be

:23:15. > :23:23.able to import any particular system in a country straight into

:23:23. > :23:30.England. But some pro-life campaigners think they've already

:23:30. > :23:33.won the debate and the commission is a waste of time. Most of the

:23:33. > :23:36.reputable people who would normally give evidence have refused to do so,

:23:36. > :23:40.because the subject has been thrashed to death in the House of

:23:40. > :23:43.Lords fairly recently, eight hours of debating. What has happened all

:23:43. > :23:46.over the world, is that pro- euthanasia societies have spoken a

:23:46. > :23:52.lot about the very rare, but very emotive cases of people who could

:23:52. > :23:55.not kill themselves and seriously want to. This is a tiny proportion

:23:55. > :23:58.really, of people, and one has to be sympathetic, but it's very

:23:58. > :24:01.important to make sure people understand that disabled people are

:24:01. > :24:10.very opposed to any change in the law that protects them at the

:24:10. > :24:16.moment. Michael Wenham has motor neurone disease, a degenerative

:24:16. > :24:19.condition that damages the nervous system. He is also worried that a

:24:19. > :24:29.change in the law could affect how society views people with

:24:29. > :24:45.

:24:45. > :24:51.disabilities. People begin to judge Michael relies on his wife Jane to

:24:51. > :24:56.help him. There may be a time when, like Tony, he is unable to do

:24:56. > :25:00.anything for himself. Michael decided not to give evidence to the

:25:00. > :25:06.commission, and Tony relies on his wife to speak on his behalf during

:25:06. > :25:13.debates. So Michael agreed to come to Tony's home to discuss face to

:25:13. > :25:17.face, how legalising assisted dying might affect society. Welcome,

:25:17. > :25:27.please make yourself comfortable. Thank you for agreeing to this

:25:27. > :25:37.

:25:37. > :25:39.But you can determine your own fate, because you can commit suicide

:25:39. > :25:49.without assistance whereas some people cannot. Why deny them the

:25:49. > :25:49.

:25:49. > :26:55.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 65 seconds

:26:55. > :26:58.That isn't the issue. It's about Both Tony and Michael await the

:26:58. > :27:04.recommendations the Commission on Assisted Dying will make in the

:27:04. > :27:09.coming weeks. But Jane Nicklinson is determined to keep fighting for

:27:09. > :27:13.the right to help her husband. Obviously nobody wants to give

:27:13. > :27:18.their husband a lethal dose of something, under any circumstances.

:27:18. > :27:27.If I had to do it, would I be able to do it? I don't know until the

:27:27. > :27:30.time comes. I like to think that I would. It's what he wants and if

:27:30. > :27:35.you love someone, you'd do anything to help them. What more can I do?

:27:35. > :27:39.There's nothing I can do. I don't think people realise what am awful

:27:39. > :27:48.thing it is to see the person that you love in there, and you can't

:27:48. > :27:51.relieve their pain. This is all I And if you'd like details of

:27:51. > :27:59.organisations which can offer help on strokes and locked in syndrome

:27:59. > :28:03.then you can call the BBC action line. The number is 08000 566 065.

:28:03. > :28:08.Your call is free from a landline but mobile operators will charge.

:28:08. > :28:11.The lines are open 24 hours a day. Well, unfortunately that's where we

:28:11. > :28:20.must bring things to a close tonight but you can continue a

:28:20. > :28:23.conversation about the programme on Twitter using #insideout.

:28:23. > :28:33.In next week's programme unhappy campers, we meet the protestors

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