:00:26. > :00:33.Hello and welcome to Inside Out. This evening, we are in Chevrolet.
:00:33. > :00:43.Marks & Spencer in the firing line. �1 million fine for ASBOs stock --
:00:43. > :00:47.for asbestos. It is reasonable to assume that it would have been
:00:47. > :00:53.licensed to as best as removal company. The thieves cashing in on
:00:53. > :01:02.high food prices and targeting our farmers. It is a combination of
:01:02. > :01:07.deer food, economic recession and a relatively soft target. We can set
:01:07. > :01:13.-- Storrar whole body so you are going to have four whole body is.
:01:13. > :01:16.We meet the people who believe they can be frozen into the future.
:01:16. > :01:24.few things the alternative is oblivion, what have you got to
:01:24. > :01:31.lose? It was established over a century
:01:31. > :01:35.ago in meets now Marks & Spencer is one of our most trusted brands. In
:01:35. > :01:40.2011, the company was fined �1 million over health and safety
:01:40. > :01:44.breaches when handling asbestos in one of its stores. The judge said
:01:44. > :01:48.M&S had turned a blind eye to complaints and could have put
:01:48. > :01:55.shoppers at risk. Were these problems confined to just one
:01:55. > :01:59.store? We investigate. Richard worked as a joiner and shop
:01:59. > :02:08.fitter in the 1960s. A lot of his work was with ASDA stores in Marks
:02:08. > :02:13.& Spencers in the North including Barnsley, Worksop and Hull. When he
:02:13. > :02:18.was cutting up the ports and shipping them to size, he describes
:02:19. > :02:24.how much asbestos dust was released into the atmosphere. In 2010, he
:02:24. > :02:27.died of mesothelioma, a cancer caused by breathing asbestos. His
:02:28. > :02:32.former employer paid compensation. M&S says his exposure could have
:02:32. > :02:37.come from many sources. It is impossible to say the link to
:02:37. > :02:41.working in M&S is the cause because these people work for long time
:02:41. > :02:45.over a variety of different projects in many buildings. It is
:02:45. > :02:55.unfortunate that many of the people who worked in the building trade at
:02:55. > :02:55.
:02:55. > :03:01.that time were exposed to asbestos. There are also staff members to its
:03:01. > :03:06.claim to developed asbestos related diseases from working at M&S. Peter
:03:06. > :03:11.Jackson was a warehouseman at M&S for almost 30 years. Seven years
:03:11. > :03:18.ago, he was diagnosed with Jesus and -- mesothelioma. The doctors
:03:18. > :03:22.kept saying you must have worked with asbestos. He said, I haven't.
:03:22. > :03:31.Them p to record a 12 week period in 1977 when the Ashton store has
:03:31. > :03:36.been refurbished. He was breathing dust from some working tiles.
:03:36. > :03:39.could see the dust in the air, men doing the work, him boiler suits
:03:39. > :03:45.and masks what I wore my ordinary clothes and didn't have any
:03:45. > :03:51.protection. The dust contained asbestos. Peter died of
:03:51. > :03:55.mesothelioma him to win -- 2008 and was paid compensation by M&S.
:03:55. > :03:59.you look back to the 60s, 70s and 80s, it is possible staff were
:03:59. > :04:04.exposed to asbestos in our stores. Society didn't understand the risks
:04:04. > :04:08.back them. It is tragic our staff were affected in this way. Any
:04:08. > :04:13.illness relating to asbestos is terrible and we did pay
:04:13. > :04:18.compensation which is a right. Our society has learnt and we have
:04:18. > :04:22.learnt and our policies have become industry leading. But retailers
:04:22. > :04:27.have stores that contain asbestos. Some have been fined for breaching
:04:27. > :04:33.the regulations. They include House of Fraser, the top, Topshop and
:04:33. > :04:37.John Lewis. Evidence we have of how Ellis, and some of its come from
:04:37. > :04:41.actors handle asbestos in the stores is worrying. It suggests
:04:41. > :04:50.that the risks to customers, staff and contractors may not have been
:04:50. > :04:54.fully acknowledged. One case in particular is concerning. In 1988,
:04:54. > :04:59.M&S refurbishes its store in Marble Arch in London. William Wallace, a
:04:59. > :05:03.health and safety officer, is horrified by what he sees. There
:05:03. > :05:06.were minefields, asbestos mine fields for want of a better
:05:06. > :05:11.expression. You could not have guaranteed the safety of anybody.
:05:11. > :05:15.He says he flags up the problems with little effect so he begins
:05:15. > :05:20.copy him pages from reports left by the day and night shifts for the
:05:20. > :05:25.construction manager. This report from April 1998 says that a shift
:05:25. > :05:31.has done it again. Cladding has been stripped with a sledgehammer.
:05:31. > :05:35.Asbestos is everywhere. It's the third occasion in a week where
:05:35. > :05:40.they've had to clear up after a dangerous occurrence. Somebody has
:05:40. > :05:48.to control the day shift if they don't want the store closed and the
:05:48. > :05:53.HSE crawling all over them. Horrendous, shocking, scandalous. I
:05:53. > :05:59.recommend it that in areas where there was asbestos, it be handed
:05:59. > :06:06.over to the licensed asbestos removal company. He rides Everest
:06:06. > :06:08.chairman Sir Richard Greenbury and meet senior managers. Come the Met
:06:08. > :06:15.says it takes the matter seriously and is taking the appropriate
:06:15. > :06:20.action. What action did it take? the face of it, the allegations are
:06:20. > :06:25.of worrying but our team thoroughly investigated it on the day, they
:06:25. > :06:29.resent -- investigated it three months afterwards, and we could
:06:29. > :06:34.find no case whatsoever to say that any member of staff or member of
:06:34. > :06:39.public was put at risk. M&S says William Wallace was mistake about
:06:39. > :06:44.what materials may have contained asbestos. We understand there was
:06:44. > :06:50.not asbestos everywhere. We invited Mr Wallace in. We met him in a
:06:50. > :06:58.third party location. His claims were discussed, he went away, we
:06:58. > :07:06.think, happy. At the same time, he was not taking this to the agency.
:07:06. > :07:09.There was a case to answer. Wallace begins working as a safety
:07:09. > :07:15.manager added Moss and Spencer store and is horrified again.
:07:15. > :07:21.was very little control on various contractors who were being asked to
:07:21. > :07:28.work on or with him as a ceiling voids. There were other reports of
:07:28. > :07:34.incidents that had occurred as very frightening. By Marina tip-off, the
:07:34. > :07:39.Health and Safety Executive swoops on the Reading store. M&S is
:07:39. > :07:45.prosecuted. This building worker gave evidence. He fears been
:07:45. > :07:48.blacklisted by the industry so we've disguised his identity. He
:07:48. > :07:58.described the goal stacking sand wedge packs. You could see the dust
:07:58. > :08:00.
:08:00. > :08:04.for him Dail on to this girl. We asked her to move somewhere else.
:08:04. > :08:12.But the manager went ballistic at us. He told us not to tell her
:08:12. > :08:16.where to go. The gaps in the ceiling are sealed with hardboard.
:08:16. > :08:20.These fell Dereham, merrily missing a child. You would have to say that
:08:20. > :08:29.trials would have had asbestos fibres am dust. As would the mother
:08:29. > :08:35.and everybody else. M&S tried to blame contractors for their
:08:35. > :08:39.problems. We will make sure that never happens again. We checked
:08:39. > :08:44.Dorothy -- thoroughly the policies and we are clear the policy to date
:08:44. > :08:46.is a leading standard in industry and probably in the world.
:08:47. > :08:53.firms were switched on the weather was potentially asbestos which
:08:53. > :08:57.could have been taken into the rest of the store. This was regrettable.
:08:57. > :09:03.The implementation was not good. We are sorry about that and we have
:09:03. > :09:09.taken steps to make sure it never happens again. M&S was fined �1
:09:09. > :09:15.million and ordered to pay �600,000 in costs. The judge said there had
:09:15. > :09:21.been a systemic failure by M&S management. Their response to
:09:21. > :09:25.asbestos a year -- complaints was to turn a blind eye because the
:09:25. > :09:29.asbestos work was already costings the company too much. To keep
:09:29. > :09:35.profits as high as reasonably possible, insufficient time and
:09:35. > :09:39.space were allocated to asbestos removal. M&S has never put profit
:09:40. > :09:43.before safety. There was no blind eye. Investigations were full and
:09:43. > :09:49.thorough. We had a good policy which the judge said was sensible
:09:49. > :09:54.and practical. The implementation was not good. We regret that. We
:09:55. > :09:57.are disappointed by those judge's comments. The judge said that
:09:57. > :10:02.everybody had no right to be anxious about whether they breathed
:10:02. > :10:08.about the -- asbestos fibres and what effect that might have about
:10:08. > :10:16.their well-being in the future. But M&S disagrees. I think him expert
:10:16. > :10:20.testimony in Reading, there was no risk to customers or staff for.
:10:20. > :10:25.contractors will also find and the company was a not guilty of
:10:25. > :10:29.asbestos breaches in Plymouth and Bournemouth. Every year, more than
:10:29. > :10:33.4,000 people die of mesothelioma and asbestos-related lung cancer.
:10:33. > :10:38.It can take decades to develop. The pace of the disease means many
:10:38. > :10:42.people never know when or where they were exposed to asbestos. Full
:10:42. > :10:47.Marks & Spencer and the whole of the retail industry what happened
:10:47. > :10:50.10, 20 or 30 years ago may still have an impact today. Any
:10:50. > :11:00.suggestion that contractors, shop workers will customers were put at
:11:00. > :11:01.
:11:01. > :11:11.risk deserves to be re-examined. We meet the people preparing for life
:11:11. > :11:16.
:11:16. > :11:21.Now, sheep rustling may be seen as an old-fashioned crime but cases
:11:21. > :11:26.have doubled since 2010. It's thought the rise is due to land be
:11:26. > :11:29.more expensive so the stolen ship are being sold illegally as food.
:11:29. > :11:34.Now it is a battle in the countryside to stay one step ahead
:11:34. > :11:37.of the thieves. The north of England boasts miles
:11:37. > :11:44.upon miles of stunning countryside. As well as beautiful views, it
:11:44. > :11:46.provides a living for those who raise animals and work the land.
:11:46. > :11:52.But this vast countryside also provides a great hiding place for
:11:52. > :12:01.people who aren't so keen on an honest day's work. The thieves who
:12:01. > :12:05.are targeting farmers and their stock. We take our ship away for
:12:05. > :12:09.winter grazing. We went back a month later to take more of way and
:12:09. > :12:13.we fouled 32 of them stolen. Martin Mitchell is a hill farmer in County
:12:13. > :12:22.Durham. All his sheep were insured but the loss of them is more than
:12:22. > :12:29.just financial. Not all sheep are the same. The sheep on your land,
:12:29. > :12:34.they will stay in the area that you own. So, you can't just go out and
:12:34. > :12:38.buy a sheep and put them on your land because they will wander off
:12:38. > :12:40.and go. Martin's animals disappeared without trace. He's now
:12:40. > :12:43.rebuilding his flock and stepping up security, especially during the
:12:43. > :12:53.winter months. Thefts might be easier during long, winter nights
:12:53. > :12:59.
:12:59. > :13:03.In the last two years, cases of rustling have more than doubled and
:13:03. > :13:06.it's a costly business. And that his �800 of my money that has been
:13:06. > :13:12.taken from me. Kevin Wilson knows what's it's like
:13:12. > :13:15.to be on the wrong end of the rural crime wave. He farms out of the
:13:15. > :13:19.small village of Blubberhouses in North Yorkshire, but rents fields
:13:19. > :13:22.all over the county to graze his sheep. We go round on Sunday
:13:22. > :13:31.morning, checking stock. I realised that a vehicle had been through a
:13:31. > :13:34.gateway. In this field, there were 200 feeding lambs. I gathered the
:13:34. > :13:40.lambs up in the field and counted them and realised approximately ten
:13:40. > :13:43.had gone missing. Kevin, though, is luckier than
:13:43. > :13:47.Martin and amazingly, within a few days, the police had tracked down
:13:47. > :13:50.his sheep. It was just in that area between those trees and the river
:13:50. > :13:56.where the sheep were recovered. It's less than two miles as the
:13:56. > :14:03.crow flies from where they'd gone. Down there, they're well out of
:14:03. > :14:09.public view. For me to recognise one of my sheep, at a distance, you
:14:09. > :14:17.can see the red mark that is on the side of the animal. Also, the
:14:17. > :14:24.Shipard tag, everyone has to be, so they have individual numbers -- the
:14:24. > :14:29.animal has a tag. So I can go into a flock of sheep and identify my
:14:29. > :14:33.lambs by that. So job done. But what happened to
:14:33. > :14:40.the thieves who stole them? They did a flit, they'd gone the
:14:40. > :14:48.following morning. Word had got out that we had
:14:48. > :14:51.identified the site of interest to All the same, Mark has an idea
:14:51. > :14:55.about who stole Kevin's sheep and today, he's making enquiries in the
:14:55. > :14:59.Tadcaster area, near York. I am from Knaresborough, just doing some
:14:59. > :15:09.inquiries into suspect vehicles. you give us the details, we do it...
:15:09. > :15:09.
:15:09. > :15:13.Pay Cichon, which is what we want. So it is time to hit the road again.
:15:13. > :15:17.But why have sheep become such a popular target for thieves?
:15:17. > :15:22.price of meat is going up, so when you have hard times and the food
:15:22. > :15:28.costs going there but you have effectively all of this food in the
:15:28. > :15:32.countryside, fairly nightie protected, then you would expect
:15:32. > :15:35.the rustling situation to increase -- likely protected.
:15:35. > :15:38.Stolen sheep are ending up on our dinner plates, but there's a
:15:38. > :15:41.warning for anyone who thinks black market meat is a bargain. Some
:15:41. > :15:45.people may be thinking it they get offered cheap meat, it is very
:15:45. > :15:48.tempting at the moment, but it has been butchered in the core of a
:15:48. > :15:53.field or in the back of a truck, that is the hygiene situation. It
:15:53. > :15:56.is not a good a deal as you might think.
:15:56. > :15:59.Back in North Yorkshire and the hunt is still on for the rustlers.
:15:59. > :16:02.Mark Ayre is off to Clitheroe market to follow up reports of
:16:03. > :16:07.sheep thieves trying to do business there. I wondered if you could just
:16:07. > :16:12.to check your computer records to see if this individual has carried
:16:12. > :16:14.out any transactions. We have won just over the top here.
:16:14. > :16:17.Mark compares notes with a colleague from Lancashire police,
:16:17. > :16:21.who hit the headlines with their first conviction for sheep rustling
:16:21. > :16:25.in 100 years. We traced them to County Durham and
:16:25. > :16:29.then we got them on a DNA and traced them back to a small village
:16:29. > :16:31.called Chipping. And those sheep belonged to farmer
:16:31. > :16:36.Robin Dean, who farms just outside Chipping, near Preston.
:16:36. > :16:40.When did you first notice you were missing 55 sheep? I'd gone at seven
:16:40. > :16:49.o'clock in the morning to feed them and there were only two left in the
:16:49. > :16:53.field. So I immediately knew there was something amiss. So you phoned
:16:53. > :16:57.the police. Did you ever think you'd see your sheep again? No, I
:16:57. > :17:01.have to admit I didn't, really. Even though they were in lamb, I
:17:01. > :17:04.thought they'd be slaughtered and used for meat. If that had happened,
:17:04. > :17:14.there'd be no trace of them. And that's where DC Elaine Smalley
:17:14. > :17:14.
:17:14. > :17:19.comes in. Officers attended a farm in Durham, where Mr Dean was able
:17:19. > :17:22.to identify his sheep. That led to the arrest of two people for the
:17:22. > :17:28.theft of them, but one of the people was maintaining that he'd
:17:28. > :17:34.bred them. So what we did was we DNAed the sheep and some of the
:17:34. > :17:38.parents of the sheep, which proved that they'd been bred at this farm.
:17:38. > :17:46.Were you surprised when the police suggested DNA testing? Yes, I was,
:17:46. > :17:49.actually. It was quite funny that we had to go to those lengths.
:17:49. > :17:52.I initially mentioned it to the victim in this case, I think he
:17:52. > :17:56.thought I was bonkers but I explained it was something we had
:17:56. > :18:03.to do to get that to court, so that someone would be brought to justice
:18:03. > :18:08.as a result of the theft. Over in North Yorkshire, PC Mark
:18:08. > :18:10.Ayre has made an unexpected breakthrough.
:18:10. > :18:19.While making his enquiries, he's come across a local resident who
:18:19. > :18:21.has some useful information. The man wishes to remain anonymous.
:18:21. > :18:29.certainly substantiates the sightings of the vehicle in the
:18:29. > :18:35.area. And which was what we were trying to set out to do in the
:18:35. > :18:39.first place. Mark does make an arrest and a man
:18:39. > :18:41.is charged but a few months down the line, the case is dropped at
:18:41. > :18:47.court. And neither of the two thieves who
:18:47. > :18:50.stole Robin Dean's sheep received custodial sentences either. For
:18:50. > :18:53.stealing �15,000 worth of sheep, there'll be some farmers who think
:18:53. > :18:56.those sentences are nowhere near stiff enough. That's right. Having
:18:56. > :19:02.spoken to some of the farming community, they've said, "Will that
:19:02. > :19:06.deter would-be sheep thieves?". I think not. It is always at the back
:19:06. > :19:10.of your mind, we did leave some stock in the field, or you take
:19:10. > :19:13.them away, you always think that they be, will they be there when
:19:13. > :19:19.you come to load them back up? You just have to keep your fingers
:19:19. > :19:23.crossed and hope you are not targeted again.
:19:23. > :19:28.Now, for a group of people in South Yorkshire, planning for the future
:19:28. > :19:31.has taken on a whole new meaning. Here in Sheffield is where UK
:19:31. > :19:34.Cryonics has its headquarters. Members want to be frozen when they
:19:34. > :19:40.die, in the hope that they can be brought back to life again in the
:19:40. > :19:43.future. Lucy Hester has been to meet them.
:19:43. > :19:51.On a quiet suburban street in Sheffield, in a garage, a small
:19:51. > :19:54.group of people are working together to try and cheat death.
:19:54. > :19:58.if you bring the arms ban. They're in the resurrection
:19:59. > :20:02.business. It sounds like sci-fi stuff, but they are deadly serious.
:20:02. > :20:05.This dummy is fondly known as Bob, but the procedure these people are
:20:05. > :20:10.practising now will eventually be carried out for real - on one of
:20:10. > :20:14.them. They're cryonicists. They want to
:20:14. > :20:17.be frozen when they die in the hope that, at some point in the future,
:20:17. > :20:19.the medical technology will exist to bring them back to life again.
:20:19. > :20:22.And this ordinary house in Sheffield is the countrywide
:20:22. > :20:25.headquarters for UK Cryonics - a group of likeminded people who
:20:25. > :20:34.promise to help get each other's dead bodies in tip-top condition
:20:34. > :20:38.for the deep freeze. The point of UK Cryonics is to be
:20:38. > :20:42.there when the person dies. As soon as death has been pronounced, we
:20:42. > :20:44.can cool them down, carry out the initial procedures, so they can be
:20:44. > :20:50.shipped to America without any further degradation of the body
:20:50. > :20:52.during the transport period. America and - recently - Russia are
:20:52. > :20:55.the only places where you can be specially stored and frozen
:20:55. > :21:05.indefinitely, so this is a timed trial of the pre-freezing
:21:05. > :21:05.
:21:05. > :21:09.preparations. Lopes, wrong one. idea is that if someone's going to
:21:09. > :21:11.live again, they need to preserve the brain as well as they can. So
:21:11. > :21:16.they cool the body, inject a cocktail of preserving chemicals
:21:16. > :21:19.and start mechanical CPR to keep oxygenated blood pumping around.
:21:19. > :21:22.None of these people are medically trained, and there has been no one
:21:22. > :21:30.to practice on for real, because none of their members have died in
:21:30. > :21:35.suitable circumstances. It is one thing to work on a dummy,
:21:35. > :21:39.it is another thing to work on a person that you know. I know, it is
:21:39. > :21:43.quite scary. You just have to say that the best thing you can do for
:21:43. > :21:47.this person is to get them preserved in the best possible way,
:21:47. > :21:52.and then just putted out of your mind and get on with doing the job.
:21:52. > :21:55.That put it out of your mind. you think about that? Yes, it is
:21:55. > :22:00.scary. What's going on in there is really
:22:00. > :22:03.a gamble. Not just a gamble that the technology will ever exist to
:22:03. > :22:06.resurrect them, but a gamble that they'll be able to make what they
:22:06. > :22:13.call a good preservation. Ever optimistic, though, parked on
:22:13. > :22:19.the driveway is the cryonicist's so called "ambulance to the future".
:22:19. > :22:22.We have got a ramp at the back for wheeling the patient in on the
:22:22. > :22:24.trolley, and the suspension lowers the so we can get them in quite
:22:24. > :22:27.easily. The ambulance would be despatched
:22:27. > :22:30.from Sheffield to the deathbed of one of their members, manned by a
:22:30. > :22:33.team of volunteers ready to start the preservation process
:22:33. > :22:38.immediately that person is pronounced legally dead. And if
:22:38. > :22:42.necessary, we can work on them in the ambulance as we are driving to
:22:42. > :22:47.the undertakers. It sought to strikes me as a bit of a gamble.
:22:47. > :22:52.is a gamble. But if you think, the alternative is a Bolivian, then
:22:52. > :22:57.what have you got to lose? -- oblivion.
:22:57. > :23:00.I've come to the Hunterian Museum in London. It's a kind of temple to
:23:00. > :23:03.mortality and the frailty of the flesh. It's the 18th-century
:23:03. > :23:08.collection of one surgeon, full of preserved specimens of human and
:23:08. > :23:17.animal body parts. This is precisely what Garret Smyth wants
:23:17. > :23:19.to transcend by being cryo- preserved. I don't see it as being
:23:20. > :23:26.dead. More like suspended de- animation. An interlude. So you're
:23:26. > :23:29.going to be frozen and shipped off to America? Yes, but just my head.
:23:29. > :23:33.That can make make people think "Ugh". How can you live without a
:23:33. > :23:42.body? You couldn't - they'd have to grow you a new set of limbs and
:23:42. > :23:47.organs. For anybody who is news to cryonics, they would listen to that
:23:47. > :23:51.and say it is fantastical, it is not real. Every step has a
:23:51. > :23:57.scientific basis to it. But it is all on the edge of research, so I
:23:57. > :24:00.can't show it you working now. If you had said to someone before the
:24:00. > :24:06.first heart transplant, "We'll cut your heart out and replace it with
:24:06. > :24:12.one from a dead person", you'd have just been laughed at. I have, as
:24:12. > :24:15.yet, to hear a good argument put forward for being dead.
:24:15. > :24:19.Leaving the museum, I'm struck by how much of the cryonicist's plans
:24:19. > :24:24.are built on hopes and dreams - and I wonder if a dead body could ever
:24:24. > :24:26.be brought to life. At the Institute of Nanotechnology in
:24:26. > :24:29.Glasgow, scientists say freezing a brain would be unlike freezing any
:24:29. > :24:34.other human organ. The brain's complexity means any cell damage
:24:34. > :24:40.could be catastrophic. The brain is a complex three-dimensional map of
:24:40. > :24:42.nerve cells that are connected to each other. And you don't have to
:24:42. > :24:49.change much of that to alter someone's personality, memories,
:24:49. > :24:56.behaviour. You just have to see what happens with people who have
:24:56. > :25:00.dementia or who have had strokes. To say you can take all the fluid
:25:00. > :25:10.out and just replace it with cryo- protectant and expect most of it to
:25:10. > :25:16.
:25:16. > :25:21.This is Arizona. It's the final destination for most of the UK's
:25:21. > :25:26.cryonicists. In the heat of the desert, they'll be deep frozen at
:25:26. > :25:29.Alcor's life-extension facility. Inside is a gallery - photos of the
:25:29. > :25:38.113 people stored here already, silently waiting to start the
:25:38. > :25:42.second of many life cycles. When the bodies arrive - or in Garret's
:25:42. > :25:48.case, his head - they're brought here to the lab, to be cooled to
:25:48. > :25:51.very low temperatures. We're going to do the separation, take the head,
:25:51. > :25:58.place it into here, tighten it down, and then use the medical grade
:25:58. > :26:02.antifreeze and flush out the head, rather than the entire body. It's
:26:02. > :26:05.also cheaper to have the head - or neuro - option, $80,000. A full
:26:05. > :26:11.body preservation will set you back around $200,000. Most people pay
:26:11. > :26:14.through life insurance. We got a full tour of Alcor. This
:26:14. > :26:24.is where the so-called patients are stored - in a kind of giant thermos
:26:24. > :26:24.
:26:24. > :26:30.flask full of liquid nitrogen. The temperature is minus 196
:26:30. > :26:38.Celsius. They are divided into four quadrants. For different sections.
:26:38. > :26:47.In each section, we can store a whole body. If a person chooses a
:26:47. > :26:53.new row, we can actually get 10 containers within the size and
:26:53. > :26:57.space -- a neuro. We also do pets. But we require that the members are
:26:57. > :27:03.also signed up, we won't take a pet and thus their owners are being
:27:03. > :27:06.preserve. For Alcor, it's a waiting game for
:27:06. > :27:09.science to perform a miracle and make it all possible.
:27:09. > :27:13.I really have very little idea of when we will bring back our
:27:13. > :27:16.patients. Of a surprise to be takes more than a century, it may take
:27:16. > :27:19.less. But when we do come back, the people there will well-preserved
:27:19. > :27:23.will come back first. It may not even require highly advanced
:27:23. > :27:27.technology, we just need to fix what killed them, fix the ageing
:27:27. > :27:30.process. For other people, it may be a lot longer but we really have
:27:30. > :27:35.to look into how we can repair damaged parts of the brains, it can
:27:35. > :27:43.be very challenging. And there will be many patients, probably, under
:27:43. > :27:45.none ideal conditions, who we won't be able to bring back. Alcor is no
:27:45. > :27:48.stranger to controversy. In 2009, an ex-employee made gruesome
:27:48. > :27:50.allegations concerning the treatment of bodies in Alcor's care
:27:50. > :27:55.- although he retracted these following court action. Despite
:27:55. > :28:05.that, 1,000 people worldwide are signed up, and counting.
:28:05. > :28:07.
:28:07. > :28:10.Back in Sheffield, they're all set for the future. Stored in the
:28:10. > :28:13.garage, Mike shows me the transport box which will be used for their
:28:13. > :28:18.members' final journey to the US. There is space all around which we
:28:18. > :28:21.can fill up with dry ice. This is science fiction. It's not
:28:21. > :28:25.possible to bring a long-dead body back to life. But the cryonicists
:28:25. > :28:32.believe it will be possible in the future - and this represents their
:28:32. > :28:35.best chance yet of living forever. Well, that is it from us for
:28:35. > :28:40.tonight. You can follow us on Twitter and Facebook, the details