:00:00. > :00:09.Good evening and welcome to the programme. This evening we `re in
:00:10. > :00:22.the stunning grounds of chats Playhouse in Derbyshire.
:00:23. > :00:27.Good evening and welcome to Inside Out. Tonight we reflect on the life
:00:28. > :00:33.of the dowager distress of Devonshire, the last of the famous
:00:34. > :00:37.sisters. But first tonight, we hear from the family of teacher `nd
:00:38. > :00:47.Maguire about her tragic de`th doing the job she loved. We feel that she
:00:48. > :00:56.is irreplaceable. Irreplace`ble as a wife, as a mother, as a sister.
:00:57. > :01:02.Also, how do we help heal the emotional scars of the soldhers who
:01:03. > :01:14.return from war? Today, the memorial service was held for up `` for
:01:15. > :01:20.schoolteacher Anne Maguire. Her family has been talking to our
:01:21. > :01:23.report about their loss. Anne Maguire, the teacher khlled in
:01:24. > :01:27.her classroom during a Spanhsh lesson. A teenager is due to go on
:01:28. > :01:32.trial for the murder in a fdw weeks' time. At today's memorial
:01:33. > :01:42.service, the city paid tribtte to an extraordinary woman who madd a
:01:43. > :01:49.difference to thousands of lives. This guitar wielding choir
:01:50. > :01:52.conducting Spanish`speaking prayer in encouraging curvaceous presence
:01:53. > :02:13.in our lives `` vivacious presence. When we spoke to her family a few
:02:14. > :02:21.days ago, today's memorial was very much on their minds. I'm gr`teful to
:02:22. > :02:30.the Council and the of Leeds for organising the memorial service in
:02:31. > :02:36.memory of her life. She was a very shy person and she would not have
:02:37. > :02:41.enjoyed being the centre of attention but she would havd been
:02:42. > :02:46.working very hard in the background to make sure everything was going
:02:47. > :02:51.well. I think what we are hoping for is not just our message but the fact
:02:52. > :02:56.that there is going to be so any people they're bringing thehr own
:02:57. > :03:01.individual memories and togdther we can paint a picture of the person
:03:02. > :03:11.she was. She brought you up as her own. It is a special person that
:03:12. > :03:23.does that. It is. We will bd forever grateful. We all have some stories
:03:24. > :03:28.to Dell `` tell. It was the kind of person that she was. The ovdrriding
:03:29. > :03:36.thing that we feel is that she is irreplaceable. She is irreplaceable
:03:37. > :03:41.as a wife, a mother, as a shster, as an aunt, as a grandmother. We have
:03:42. > :03:50.all lost per person. There hs a definite emptiness. Our mum was
:03:51. > :03:55.always there for us. She usdd to stand by us, she was a rock, she
:03:56. > :04:02.provided support and kindness and love in whatever we did. Yotr wife,
:04:03. > :04:07.your mother, your aunt, was the favourite teacher of so manx pupils
:04:08. > :04:12.over the years. How does th`t make you feel that so many other people
:04:13. > :04:17.have held in such high regard for her touching their lives as a
:04:18. > :04:28.teacher? We have always been aware of her popularity. We could go
:04:29. > :04:34.nowhere and the surrounding area when somebody would not be heard to
:04:35. > :04:38.shout hello. I am so grateftl to my teachers that was special in my life
:04:39. > :04:41.and I absolutely understand those people that when they see hdr have
:04:42. > :04:45.to tell her what she did for them and they understand that shd would
:04:46. > :04:54.be so grateful to know how they have succeeded. Her face was verx
:04:55. > :05:14.important to the land was no doubt a huge guiding her own life. How
:05:15. > :05:22.important it was very strongly by her faith. She took her faith very
:05:23. > :05:31.seriously. The guided her in her professional and family lifd. It
:05:32. > :05:42.gave her the framework that made her the giving and the wonderful person
:05:43. > :05:46.she was. I think a generosity of spirit is some thing I have thought
:05:47. > :05:57.more about. Throwing up, I felt that she gave everything to me `` growing
:05:58. > :06:04.up. She did it for all of us. That is a really special person `nd
:06:05. > :06:06.manages to affect that many lives. I think her faith was that strong that
:06:07. > :06:14.even as a family come indivhdually, even if we lost our way is `long the
:06:15. > :06:20.`` faith along the way, she brought us back to where we should be. That
:06:21. > :06:33.is the case now, especially after she has gone. Many people would have
:06:34. > :06:41.seen you outside the school in the days after, reading the messages
:06:42. > :06:50.that had been left. How much of a support were all those mess`ges
:06:51. > :06:57.Yes, I remember that day very well. The very empty hollow sick feeling
:06:58. > :07:05.inside. And reading those mdssages made us feel so comforted and so
:07:06. > :07:17.able to understand that othdrs were feeling the pain as well. They were
:07:18. > :07:22.of great comfort to us. And some of the messages, especially by some
:07:23. > :07:30.very young people, were verx poignant and moving. We havd so many
:07:31. > :07:32.of our own it will stories `nd memories and we are so gratdful that
:07:33. > :07:37.people shared theirs becausd it has allowed us to see her through their
:07:38. > :07:43.eyes. And add those two are all memory banks. You have all those
:07:44. > :07:51.messages. What does it mean to have those messages in your possdssion?
:07:52. > :08:00.It means a great deal. I sthll read them on occasion. And receive a
:08:01. > :08:07.great deal of solace from them. They are important. They are tre`sured by
:08:08. > :08:13.as now. Yes. We now have a charity in your mother 's memory. What do
:08:14. > :08:18.you hope the legacy of that will be? I think we really want her legacy to
:08:19. > :08:22.be something that stands for everything she was and encolpasses
:08:23. > :08:28.everything she did in her work, the person she was to summon people She
:08:29. > :08:34.taught for 40 years. She will have affected thousands of pupils and
:08:35. > :08:42.probably shape their career choices, decisions they madd in
:08:43. > :08:44.their live `` lives. We feel her legacy should be something that
:08:45. > :08:51.continues this work and what you gave to people. This lunch time
:08:52. > :08:56.schools across Leeds join friends, colleagues and generations of Anne
:08:57. > :09:02.Maguire 's pupils in a memo `` minute silence in memory of a
:09:03. > :09:07.wonderful woman. She was a special teacher to so many over the years.
:09:08. > :09:12.She was obviously special in her home life as well. She was very
:09:13. > :09:17.special. She was the mainst`y of the family. She was the centre xacht ``
:09:18. > :09:22.centre of our family. The one thing I am certain of, if she had a
:09:23. > :09:26.choice, she would be with us here and now, and she would love the
:09:27. > :09:40.situation where we are all together. She was a very loving
:09:41. > :09:48.dedicated wife and a natural mother and it was her natural mothdring
:09:49. > :10:01.qualities that I think made her such a wonderful teacher.
:10:02. > :10:05.If you would like to get in touch with us then you can. The address is
:10:06. > :10:15.on the screen. Coming up, wd look back on the incredible life of the
:10:16. > :10:19.Dowager Duchess of Devonshire. At the end of the year, British troops
:10:20. > :10:23.will pull out of Afghanistan. During the conflict, many soldiers have
:10:24. > :10:26.lost their lives whilst othdrs have suffered terrible injuries. But it
:10:27. > :10:31.is families with loved ones returning who will be looking out
:10:32. > :10:48.for the less visible impacts of war. Before it is too late.
:10:49. > :10:55.We are hoping to raise loads and money `` loads of money. Mary and
:10:56. > :10:59.Karen are united through thdir loss. He died a week before Ashlex and
:11:00. > :11:13.that is what brought us togdther. We are now very good friends.
:11:14. > :11:18.Mary and Karen's sons were war veterans, but were only 23 `nd 4
:11:19. > :11:26.when they died. They are relembered year. The two young men, were not
:11:27. > :11:30.killed in Afghanistan or Ir`q, they had left the Army, but they couldn't
:11:31. > :11:41.leave behind the emotional trauma of war. Lee and Ashley took thdir own
:11:42. > :11:46.lives just one week apart. He was such a lovely young boy. In his
:11:47. > :11:53.later teenage years, she was always the life and soul of the party. He
:11:54. > :12:01.loved the Army, and this was going to be the career he would choose. I
:12:02. > :12:05.noticed, as soon as we got him from the airport after his tour had
:12:06. > :12:10.finished, the look on his f`ce, you look so vacant, it wasn't hhm any
:12:11. > :12:19.more. It wasn't the fun lovhng happy little soul. Lee was really
:12:20. > :12:24.happy`go`lucky, a prankster who kept everybody entertained. He joined the
:12:25. > :12:28.Army just before his 18th bhrthday. He was doing really well and
:12:29. > :12:35.enjoying it. After Afghanistan, that was when we noticed a changd. He got
:12:36. > :12:42.moody quiet. His friends sahd he wasn't the same. We asked hhm to
:12:43. > :12:50.tell us about it, and he sahd we didn't need to know. Ashley is at
:12:51. > :12:57.risk of suicide. A couple of weeks before he was released. Exactly the
:12:58. > :13:03.same with glee. The systems have failed. There needs to be a better
:13:04. > :13:08.link between the MOD and doctors, but there also needs to be lore
:13:09. > :13:16.help. The MoD told me mental health is a top priority. To ensurd a
:13:17. > :13:21.better continuity of care, when a veteran registers with AGP the
:13:22. > :13:28.doctor receives a letter st`ting that they have received milhtary
:13:29. > :13:32.medical services. But it is not the whole answer. The veteran still have
:13:33. > :13:42.to admit that they have a problem and ask your help. They can wait
:13:43. > :13:47.four years. `` four years. This man was a nurse in the Territorhal
:13:48. > :13:52.Army. He had been a nurse bdfore, but nothing prepared him for the
:13:53. > :13:58.time he spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Children coming in
:13:59. > :14:00.having been bombed, shot at. Men and women, limbs missing,
:14:01. > :14:09.life`threatening injuries. The worst thing I saw was a man whose body I
:14:10. > :14:20.had to guard over. He had h`d his head blown off. It was a grden line.
:14:21. > :14:23.`` clean line. On his return, Phil's wife noticed a real
:14:24. > :14:27.difference. He had never re`lly shown any aggression or angdr
:14:28. > :14:31.beforehand, and I was very heavily pregnant and it came to a point in a
:14:32. > :14:36.car park, where he just completely lost it with somebody else over what
:14:37. > :14:40.seemed to be nothing. When we got home, I said, you need to go and get
:14:41. > :14:46.help or you need to leave, because I was not prepared to bring up my baby
:14:47. > :14:50.with the person who was likd that. After four years of suffering and
:14:51. > :14:55.ten weeks of NHS counselling, he was referred to the veterans mental
:14:56. > :15:04.health charity, Stressed and its medical centre. It took me `n hour
:15:05. > :15:09.to get out of the car and go through the doors. A second residential stay
:15:10. > :15:16.has made the difference. It saved my life and my marriage. I can
:15:17. > :15:24.definitely say, if it wasn't for them, I would not be here. Ht is
:15:25. > :15:31.very hard. And to admit that something is wrong, that's really
:15:32. > :15:35.hard. There is a big worry `bout when we withdraw from Afghanistan as
:15:36. > :15:47.to how many mental health c`ses there will actually be. I think
:15:48. > :15:54.there will be a tidal wave. Armed Forces Day in Nottingham. Even
:15:55. > :15:59.doctors in the forces can f`il to recognise their own poster Latic
:16:00. > :16:04.stress for decades. `` post`traumatic stress disorder for
:16:05. > :16:08.decades. This man is a doctor who specialises in psychiatry. This is
:16:09. > :16:13.me as a colonel in Germany, before the war started. In 1979, following
:16:14. > :16:20.the birth of his son, he was stationed in Northern Ireland. Barry
:16:21. > :16:24.attended the Warrenpoint atrocity after the first bomb and thdn a
:16:25. > :16:30.second exploded. A close frhend of mine was blown to pieces. B`rry
:16:31. > :16:38.struggled for the next 25 ydars A fellow GP convinced and he had PTSD.
:16:39. > :16:44.A little light bulb went on, and I'd not, no, no. I can't go mad. Using
:16:45. > :16:48.the pejorative term, mad. I didn't like being labelled as mad, and I
:16:49. > :16:51.still don't. I would much r`ther have lost an eye or a leg, `nd I
:16:52. > :16:57.would have treated myself as a hero and be proud to say, I was there. I
:16:58. > :17:37.am the veteran Lee is an ch`mpion. Deborah
:17:38. > :17:40.access, and it has developed a mental health support network. The
:17:41. > :17:44.National Memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire, where the nales of
:17:45. > :17:47.those who have fallen in battle are in great. The names of the `nd
:17:48. > :19:00.Ashley won't be found suicides. The devastation on the
:19:01. > :19:07.family. These lads have fought for their country, our boys, went to
:19:08. > :19:13.war, got medals, come out whth a different battle that nobodx seems
:19:14. > :19:18.to care about. Going through Ashley's medical notes and three
:19:19. > :19:23.entries, being placed on suhcide watch on the day of his reldase
:19:24. > :19:29.next of kin not being inforled of any of this, that's is the hardest
:19:30. > :19:46.thing I have to swallow, to be quite honest with you. If I knew, my son
:19:47. > :19:55.would still be here. Definitely This is the village where the
:19:56. > :19:58.Dowager Duchess of Devonshire spent her later years. Deborah Mitford
:19:59. > :20:02.played a key role in turning Chatswood into one of Britahn's best
:20:03. > :20:18.loved stately homes, and eight successful business. She had an
:20:19. > :20:23.amazing life. It is the lifd story reads like a who is who of the 0th
:20:24. > :20:28.century. She mixed with roy`lty presidents, prime ministers, and on
:20:29. > :20:38.a single notorious occasion, with her sister Unity Mitford, she had
:20:39. > :20:41.tea with Hitler. Here, she will be remembered for her role in saving
:20:42. > :20:45.one of the nation's favourite places, turning Chatswood b`ck into
:20:46. > :20:50.a stately home to visit. It is a place she, with reluctantly
:20:51. > :20:59.expressed pride, was able to share with the millions who came. It is
:21:00. > :21:02.beautiful. I get heaps of ldtters from people saying, I have had a
:21:03. > :21:06.terrible illness or a terrible tragedy in my life, and I h`ve gone
:21:07. > :21:17.to walk in the park at Chatswood and I feel much better. Deborah Mitford
:21:18. > :21:22.was the youngest of six sisters and one brother, a family which became
:21:23. > :21:28.notorious in the 1930s. Jessica became a communist, Nancy a
:21:29. > :21:36.successful author, Diana married the fascist leader Moseley. Months
:21:37. > :21:41.later, Deborah was dancing with the son of Joseph Kennedy, the
:21:42. > :21:48.ambassador to Britain. She wrote in her diary that Jack Kennedy was
:21:49. > :21:53.rather boring but nice. Isn't it strange? But that is the sort of
:21:54. > :22:00.thing that did happen. The thing was that my sister knew Hitler very
:22:01. > :22:15.well, pretty well, and he sdemed to be very fond of her. Troops and
:22:16. > :22:18.police guard at every entrance to the docks. It was the occashon of
:22:19. > :22:24.the arrival of the Unity Mitford, friend of Hitler. Unity Mitford was
:22:25. > :22:29.demonised at home. When war broke out, she shot herself in thd head
:22:30. > :22:35.with a pistol. By Christmas 193 , with Hitler's, Deborah and her
:22:36. > :22:38.mother managed to get Unity Mitford home via Switzerland, but the
:22:39. > :22:44.cameras were in wait at Folkestone, the press had been tipped off. Unity
:22:45. > :22:48.never fully recovered and dhed in 1948. Deborah said she could not
:22:49. > :22:57.help loving her sister, whatever the politics. It was never in the least
:22:58. > :23:08.bit interesting. It went ovdr my head. It was the person I loved
:23:09. > :23:12.Deborah married her love in 194 , Andrew Cavendish, an officer in the
:23:13. > :23:18.Coldstream Guards, was the second son of the Duke of Devonshire. While
:23:19. > :23:22.the build`up to war tore ap`rt the Mitford family, the consequdnces of
:23:23. > :23:28.war were hard to bear. Her brother, Tom, was killed. Henry Wyndham,
:23:29. > :23:36.killed in the war. My brothdr, killed in the war. Willie C`vendish
:23:37. > :23:41.married a woman called Kathleen His death meant Andrew and Deborah
:23:42. > :23:48.workers to the dukedom. Awftl. Andrew was his father's error. Then
:23:49. > :23:55.another big surprise was th`t my father died when he was onlx 55 In
:23:56. > :24:00.1950. The rich estates like Chatsworth have become unpopular
:24:01. > :24:04.after the First World War. For the second, the mood of the country seem
:24:05. > :24:13.to be, terror them down. Thd feeling against houses like this was
:24:14. > :24:18.absolutely 100% against. Knock them down, get rid of them, nobody wants
:24:19. > :24:25.them. Death duties for the new Devonshire 's were severe. The Duke
:24:26. > :24:33.had to sell and give away properties to pay them off, until 1974. It was
:24:34. > :24:38.Hugh made all the decisions about the death duties. 80%, everxthing.
:24:39. > :24:47.Pictures, works of art, stocks and shares, land, the lot. The
:24:48. > :24:51.magnificence design for one noble family is partly shared by ordinary
:24:52. > :24:58.people, making themselves at home. People think they belong here. They
:24:59. > :25:01.think that this belongs to them and that has always been the case,
:25:02. > :25:15.because it has always been open to the public. It was all been ever
:25:16. > :25:20.since it was built. `` open. It stands were a former mansion held
:25:21. > :25:24.Mary Queen of Scots. The prdsent Duke of Devonshire is unwilling to
:25:25. > :25:32.bear the burden of living at Chatswood house. He is contdnt with
:25:33. > :25:35.the modest evens with house nearby. They were soon advised to lhve in
:25:36. > :25:40.Chatsworth, to put a family in their again. It was seen as very natural
:25:41. > :25:45.to Andrew and his family to come back and live here. We had lived
:25:46. > :25:50.away for ten years, so we knew it intimately. We used to drivd across
:25:51. > :25:54.and I used to say to Andrew, that is a nice house, I want to livd there.
:25:55. > :26:00.He used to say, do be quite. In the end, we came. The visitors were far
:26:01. > :26:04.from ordinary. President Jack Kennedy is one hour late arriving at
:26:05. > :26:07.Gatwick Airport. He will be making an unscheduled visit to the grave of
:26:08. > :26:12.his sister Kathleen end of his sister Kathleen induction. Ht was
:26:13. > :26:18.1963, the year he was assassinated. He is a Chatsworth. This is a letter
:26:19. > :26:22.I wrote to my sister to say he is coming here tomorrow, a proper
:26:23. > :26:30.mystery trip. Two helicopters arrived yesterday afternoon, I was
:26:31. > :26:39.set to meet them, and out ttmbled several men and a Brigadier. It was
:26:40. > :26:42.a well`planned visitor `` vhsit far from unscheduled. His helicopter
:26:43. > :26:47.landed up there, by the graveyard, and his secret serviceman s`id, you
:26:48. > :26:50.can't go to Chatsworth, it hs open to the public, it is out of the
:26:51. > :26:55.question, but of course he came He walked up the west and their work
:26:56. > :27:03.just the few visitors, it w`s not a nice day, and they looked at this
:27:04. > :27:09.man coming up the stairs, it was a real double take for a few of them,
:27:10. > :27:16.and they couldn't believe it. She never met Elvis, but she did have
:27:17. > :27:18.his memorabilia and his mushc. I couldn't see him in the flesh
:27:19. > :27:26.because he was dead before H realised what he was, but I have
:27:27. > :27:32.been to Graceland twice. So beautiful when he was young. And his
:27:33. > :27:38.voice is better than any of the singers that have been sincd then.
:27:39. > :27:45.But I have ever heard. `` that I have ever heard. Graceland was
:27:46. > :28:00.second only to the White Hotse. Chatsworth remains one of Britain's
:28:01. > :28:06.biggest attractions. Life hdre was made absolutely wonderful bx the
:28:07. > :28:11.support of the staff. The lot of living with all of those people
:28:12. > :28:14.working with them is somethhng that is not open to many, and th`t I
:28:15. > :28:19.suppose is rather the thing I take away with me from the garden to the
:28:20. > :28:28.forms, to the inside of the house, everything. She liked to quote her
:28:29. > :28:42.friend JFK. Ask not what yotr country can do for you. Ask what you
:28:43. > :28:48.can do for your country. Th`t is all for tonight from your Chatsworth.
:28:49. > :28:52.Make sure you join us next week `` you add a Chatsworth. Six wdeks on
:28:53. > :29:01.from a rubber six scandal wd will be investigating how men travelled from
:29:02. > :29:07.all the country to abusing girls there. `` the Rotherham scandal