Barbara Taylor Bradford

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:00:53. > :01:00.So, welcome James Paterson. Thank you. What are Book Shots? Well,

:01:01. > :01:05.hopefully, they're a revolution in reading and the way we look at

:01:06. > :01:11.books. At the least they're going to continue an evolution. They're under

:01:12. > :01:18.150 pages. Relatively inexpensive and hopefully impossible to put

:01:19. > :01:21.down. It's like one of my regular books, at like 145 pages, very

:01:22. > :01:25.tight. You can get on the train, you go to work, you get on the train

:01:26. > :01:30.going home and you have read one. So you have accomplished something

:01:31. > :01:34.which is kind of cool. The slogan is all thriller, no filler. Is that

:01:35. > :01:41.what makes you think somebody will pick up one of these rather than a

:01:42. > :01:46.magazine or go online? It's like reading a movie. There's no fat,

:01:47. > :01:51.it's all story. You know, hopefully with good characters. If you like

:01:52. > :01:54.Alex Cross, here is one you haven't read before but it just happens so

:01:55. > :02:03.quickly. Here in England we are going to start with six. It's kind

:02:04. > :02:07.of a category. There will be a Alex Cross, a zoo, one about the Royals

:02:08. > :02:12.which is fun. There is one about a big heist, a diamond heist. Recently

:02:13. > :02:20.I was interviewed in my office and I pulled out these eight very deep

:02:21. > :02:25.drawers and I have 107 of these book shots that are either finished now

:02:26. > :02:29.or in process and of the so 7 I would say 80 are stories that I

:02:30. > :02:32.created. It's like, oh, my God, the person

:02:33. > :02:37.that interviewed me over there went like this is insane. This is crazy,

:02:38. > :02:43.I said, great, this is insane. But I think for readers this is going to

:02:44. > :02:47.be a real boon. Because they are addictive.

:02:48. > :02:50.You have written some of them but like your full-length novel, you

:02:51. > :02:53.employ a team of co-writers, tell us a bit about how that works,

:02:54. > :02:58.I wrote last year over 2000 pages of outlines.

:02:59. > :03:00.My outlines are always three or four drafts.

:03:01. > :03:08.And usually when I co-write a book, I write

:03:09. > :03:12.an outline, for these it may be 30 pages and it is chapter by chapter.

:03:13. > :03:15.And what I will do with the co-writer

:03:16. > :03:17.is give them the outline, I will say please contribute to the

:03:18. > :03:20.outline because that is useful and it gets the co-writer

:03:21. > :03:30.The template for the BookShots is every single chapter moves

:03:31. > :03:34.both the characterisation and the story forward and turns on the

:03:35. > :03:45.meaning you can't see it, you can't feel it, and taste it

:03:46. > :03:49.and smell it, if it is not moving forward and I'm not interested

:03:50. > :03:51.characters I will say, hold it, we have lost something here.

:03:52. > :04:00.Then I will make suggestions and occasionally

:04:01. > :04:02.I did not figure out the outline correctly or more often

:04:03. > :04:14.If you look at them, they are smaller,

:04:15. > :04:17.thinner and hopefully on the trains and planes you will see

:04:18. > :04:24.I have read that you work seven days a week,

:04:25. > :04:27.52 weeks of the year, is that true, do you not

:04:28. > :04:31.even take a day off for Christmas day?

:04:32. > :04:34.Christmas I would say would be a very light day but generally

:04:35. > :04:39.Somebody said you are lucky if you find something you like

:04:40. > :04:42.to do and it is a miracle if somebody will pay you to do it.

:04:43. > :04:48.Doing these BookShots, it has been the most fun year

:04:49. > :04:57.of my life, because I love to tell stories and I was

:04:58. > :05:00.blocked with the books I had because I had the Alex Cross

:05:01. > :05:04.and it was like we don't need any more hardback,

:05:05. > :05:07.so there was no place for me to let my imagination go

:05:08. > :05:12.I will have more content than Marvel by the end of this year.

:05:13. > :05:15.It is little wonder that you are known as the busiest man

:05:16. > :05:18.in publishing, not just because of the number of books you write,

:05:19. > :05:21.but because of the time and the money you spend

:05:22. > :05:26.on championing literacy, why is that so important?

:05:27. > :05:29.For me, the most important thing is getting kids reading.

:05:30. > :05:32.Because if our kids do not become competent readers,

:05:33. > :05:34.especially kids at risk, how are they going

:05:35. > :05:40.If they get through, ten and 11 and they are not competent...

:05:41. > :05:46.There'll be a drag on society and the city

:05:47. > :05:50.and all of us, and it will make for a harder life for them

:05:51. > :06:00.As an individual I can't do much to solve global warming

:06:01. > :06:04.or health care crisis, whatever, but as an individual

:06:05. > :06:08.we can all get the kids in our homes reading, mostly,

:06:09. > :06:11.we can help the local school, we can help the local libraries,

:06:12. > :06:15.libraries are a big issue now and how they get funded in England.

:06:16. > :06:18.I just hope that people will stand up and go,

:06:19. > :06:21.our libraries are really important, we need the money for libraries.

:06:22. > :06:25.How much does your interest in this stem from the fact

:06:26. > :06:28.that you had a son who was a reluctant reader?

:06:29. > :06:37.When he was eight-years-old, that summer, we said you can read every

:06:38. > :06:44.And we said yes, unless you want to live in the garage because we read

:06:45. > :06:58.But we said this is going to be painless,

:06:59. > :07:02.so we've got a dozen books like Percy Jackson,

:07:03. > :07:05.and one of mine and by the end of the summer Jack had read

:07:06. > :07:08.a dozen books and his reading skills went up dramatically,

:07:09. > :07:10.and ultimately they have SAT scores in America

:07:11. > :07:13.so a perfect score in reading is 800 and he had 800 in reading,

:07:14. > :07:15.and he is going to an Ivy League college.

:07:16. > :07:18.In terms of what can happen, if you take charge

:07:19. > :07:19.with your children, make it your responsibility.

:07:20. > :07:21.There is nothing more important than a mother or

:07:22. > :07:25.father or grandparents to do than make sure the kids read.

:07:26. > :07:30.It is good you get them out with exercise but they

:07:31. > :07:37.You are hugely successful, a writer of

:07:38. > :07:41.commercial mainstream fiction, do you hanker

:07:42. > :07:43.after writing the great American novel?

:07:44. > :07:45.I have already - they are just commercial!

:07:46. > :07:56.On my gravestone, "James kept a lot of people up late at night."

:07:57. > :07:58.And BookShots are going to be one of the reasons.

:07:59. > :08:15.This is going to change the way people read.

:08:16. > :08:23.Although she says that she thinks of it as comic, the comedy is darker

:08:24. > :08:30.than forever. For one of our most prolific and most read authors Crock

:08:31. > :08:36.lat was an international bestseller and memorable film.

:08:37. > :08:43.Sler An exploration of some of the most troubling relationships between

:08:44. > :08:47.teachers and pupils and the havoc they can sometimes wreak. It strikes

:08:48. > :08:52.me that schools attract you, you like them, don't you? I am very

:08:53. > :08:56.fobbed of schools, I taught in them for 15 years and they're wonderful

:08:57. > :09:01.observations of community. The observation here is as I said at

:09:02. > :09:07.the beginning, pretty dark. It's funny, it's touching. But it goes to

:09:08. > :09:12.some very dark places. Both in terms of the staff and their charges. It

:09:13. > :09:15.does. I found that schools are a kind of perpetual stage for tragedy

:09:16. > :09:19.and farce and everything in between. So many things can happen. It's an

:09:20. > :09:23.unpredictable environment. And that isn't just because of setting, it's

:09:24. > :09:28.because of the age of those involved. You are talking about

:09:29. > :09:32.adolescents going through crises, some imagined, some real and

:09:33. > :09:38.relationships with teachers which are inevitably delicate things. I

:09:39. > :09:41.think so, yes. It's an intense stage of life, adolescence, you feel

:09:42. > :09:46.things very strongly. You can experience experience things for the

:09:47. > :09:50.first time and they can be powerful that they're completely create an

:09:51. > :09:53.upheaval in your life. I found it interesting to be part of but it's

:09:54. > :09:56.daunting as well because later I realised as a teacher you can really

:09:57. > :10:00.influence somebody's life and people remember you and they remember what

:10:01. > :10:04.you said and if it was unfair they will resent it in a way that an

:10:05. > :10:08.adult I don't think would resent. Some bad things happen in this book,

:10:09. > :10:11.I will not talk about what they are, it's safe to say you are led into

:10:12. > :10:17.territory that's become more familiar to us in the last two or

:10:18. > :10:22.three years, allegations of sexual impropriety and misconduct and so on

:10:23. > :10:25.and emotional trauma with staff and pupils, did you know that's what you

:10:26. > :10:28.were getting into when you started? Not entirely, no. I think what

:10:29. > :10:34.happened was I started off with a germ of an idea in this book and

:10:35. > :10:37.then in real life Operation Yewtree started to unfold and I found there

:10:38. > :10:40.was an uncomfortable crossover in what I was writing about and what

:10:41. > :10:43.happened in the world. It became much darker and more topical than I

:10:44. > :10:48.thought it would be. You touch on the question in this book of

:10:49. > :10:53.atmospheres that can develop, rather hysterical ones leading to a kind of

:10:54. > :10:56.almost a witch-hunt atmosphere, or a territory where there are false

:10:57. > :11:00.accusations and difficulties and great damage done as a consequence.

:11:01. > :11:04.It's something that clearly fascinates you, the unfairness that

:11:05. > :11:10.is lurking there under the surface. Yes, I think so. Also the past and

:11:11. > :11:16.how the past affects the present. And how memory is not inherently a

:11:17. > :11:20.reliable tool, particularly when dealing with experiences of trauma,

:11:21. > :11:25.how memory can be affected by all kind of things happening in the

:11:26. > :11:31.present day and how memory can sometimes be both unreliable and

:11:32. > :11:35.frightening. The main character has been a teacher for a long time, this

:11:36. > :11:39.has happened to him again and again. There's that interesting sense of

:11:40. > :11:44.having seen generations of pupils coming through in his case to learn

:11:45. > :11:47.classics or not to learn, first of all, you clearly adore him. I am

:11:48. > :11:51.very fond of him. We are not entirely the same person but I might

:11:52. > :11:56.have grown into him if I stayed at the school in which I taught for

:11:57. > :11:59.long enough. He's flawed in a lot of ways but ultimately he has a good

:12:00. > :12:03.heart. He is warm, he is affectionate. He loves his job. He

:12:04. > :12:08.is aware of the consequences of the job that he does. He is aware that

:12:09. > :12:13.he is affecting young lives and he has a strong sense of duty. I also

:12:14. > :12:18.like the fact that he is a bit of a subversive. That he has various

:12:19. > :12:22.prejudices which is unaware of, he has favourites and he is unaware of

:12:23. > :12:26.this. He is bad with technology. He likes the odd sneaky fag outside

:12:27. > :12:30.when he shouldn't have. One of the interesting things about the way you

:12:31. > :12:39.construct the narrative here is that you have got an older man talking

:12:40. > :12:41.but you have youngsters as well so they're inhabiting different -

:12:42. > :12:45.they're in the same place in the school. That's right. I had the

:12:46. > :12:50.benefit of being in that environment for long enough to pick up a lot of

:12:51. > :12:55.voices, to remember the way teenager boys talked, the way older members

:12:56. > :12:59.of staff talked, and so I have borrowed from colleagues, from

:13:00. > :13:10.pupils who are now ex-pupils and watch the whole process with joy

:13:11. > :13:14.from Twitter and Facebook. You are a great Twitter user? I am, yes. A lot

:13:15. > :13:17.of boys say I remember this and read this book and often they turn up to

:13:18. > :13:25.readings and of course they all think I am writing about them, which

:13:26. > :13:29.isn't quite true, but there are certainly little vinets. It's a dark

:13:30. > :13:36.story but you are having fun. You are a successful author, widely

:13:37. > :13:41.read, are you irritated when people say you are the Chocolate woman?

:13:42. > :13:47.Does it sometimes hang around your neck? Inevitably a little. I am very

:13:48. > :13:52.grateful for the response to it and the fact that people loved it and I

:13:53. > :13:59.love it too and I am still writing about those characters. What I find

:14:00. > :14:02.irssome, if anything, is that assumption I will do the same thing.

:14:03. > :14:08.I could go in almost any direction and have done, I am lucky in that

:14:09. > :14:10.sense. You are and you take what I might call the authorial

:14:11. > :14:16.responsibility seriously. You are speaking up for authors and recently

:14:17. > :14:20.you talked about not going to one nameless literary Festival because

:14:21. > :14:23.they were expecting all kind of things and exclusive contracts and

:14:24. > :14:27.saying, hang on, authors deserve to be treated in a better way. It's not

:14:28. > :14:30.just about me, about me wanting money or special treatment,

:14:31. > :14:36.completely the opposite. I would like is for people to see writing as

:14:37. > :14:39.a job, it's a profession. And to treat authors professionally and

:14:40. > :14:41.this is particularly important for young authors who have a real

:14:42. > :14:46.difficulty sometimes in getting to Festivals because of what it's going

:14:47. > :14:49.to cost them. They don't make much money writing, contrary to public

:14:50. > :14:53.opinion. Absolutely. The average salary for professional author is

:14:54. > :14:56.?11 thousand a year, according to the Society of Authors, this isn't

:14:57. > :15:00.much, not many of us get to write for a living and make a reasonable

:15:01. > :15:04.living out of it. You are an author who conforms I think to one of the

:15:05. > :15:11.wonderful stereotypes, you work in a shed at the bottom of the garden. I

:15:12. > :15:17.do, yes. You enter a different world when you are there? Shed world is a

:15:18. > :15:21.specific space. It's psychologically important for an author to have a

:15:22. > :15:24.work space, particularly somebody like me who was on a timetable for a

:15:25. > :15:28.long time, it's difficult to manage time and difficult to get into the

:15:29. > :15:33.psychological head space of writing. So I think it's important to create

:15:34. > :15:37.a place where you work and nothing else happens, whether it's a shed,

:15:38. > :15:41.whether it's a desk, when I was just starting off I didn't have a desk,

:15:42. > :15:45.so I had two objects that I would put in front of my laptop when I

:15:46. > :15:50.wanted to write and that created the work space, wherever it was.

:15:51. > :15:53.Sometimes I am working on two at once, in fact nearly always because

:15:54. > :15:58.I have books I write on sunny days and book I write on dark days. This

:15:59. > :16:03.was a dark day book? Definitely a dark day book. Although it has some

:16:04. > :16:04.glimpses of sunshine in there. I should say it's fun, as well. Joanne

:16:05. > :16:15.Harris, thank you very much. Well, this is about as much snow as

:16:16. > :16:20.I can offer in this weather forecast. It's going to be an

:16:21. > :16:23.incredibly mild Christmas, pretty windy too, especially across

:16:24. > :16:28.Scotland, particularly Boxing Day. It will be stormy there. This is the

:16:29. > :16:29.next storm,