Meg Rosoff

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0:00:04 > 0:00:05Now it's time for Meet the Author.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08Mal Peet was a much-loved writer of what book shops

0:00:08 > 0:00:11like to call 'young adult fiction' although he greatly disliked labels

0:00:11 > 0:00:12of that kind.

0:00:12 > 0:00:15When he died last year he left an unfinished novel, Beck,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18the story of an orphan boy marooned in Canada during the Depression and

0:00:18 > 0:00:22trying to make a life for himself.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Now the book has been finished by his friend,

0:00:24 > 0:00:27another favourite among young readers, Meg Rosoff.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29So what is it like to finish the story of a friend

0:00:29 > 0:00:32and bring it to a conclusion?

0:00:32 > 0:00:35Welcome.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54It must have been quite an emotional experience to pick up the manuscript

0:00:54 > 0:00:59of a friend and try to finish it?

0:00:59 > 0:01:01Yes, it was emotional in the best way, actually.

0:01:01 > 0:01:05We had never really made a firm arrangement and when Mal called me

0:01:05 > 0:01:12to say that the chemo hadn't worked and that he knew he was going to die

0:01:12 > 0:01:17quite soon, he said my great regret is that I haven't been able

0:01:17 > 0:01:20to finish this book.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23And I just said, I will do it for you and that was it.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26And we never spoke about it, he never told me what he intended

0:01:26 > 0:01:28or what I should do with it.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30So it was like a kind of silent dialogue, in a way,

0:01:30 > 0:01:33and because we were such close friends, it was like keeping

0:01:33 > 0:01:36that conversation going.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38That's rather interesting.

0:01:38 > 0:01:40Did you know anything about the book before these conversations?

0:01:40 > 0:01:42Nothing, literally nothing.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44I had no idea it was historical...

0:01:44 > 0:01:46So you opened it like a reader?

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Yes, yes.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50It was...

0:01:50 > 0:01:53I guess it was incredibly lucky, actually, that I connected with it

0:01:53 > 0:01:58enough so that I could treat it as my own book.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00But every writer has a voice, a way of expressing himself

0:02:00 > 0:02:03or herself on the page.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06That is individual.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08That's what makes a writer a writer.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12And here you were, with your friend stalking the pages.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14Did you want to write as him or as yourself

0:02:14 > 0:02:18and will we see the join?

0:02:18 > 0:02:22Well, I hope you don't see the join, although I think anyone

0:02:22 > 0:02:25who knows my writing and Mal's writing really well might recognise

0:02:25 > 0:02:29bits and pieces that are more Mal or more me.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31But...

0:02:31 > 0:02:34Yes, it is two separate voices but on the other hand,

0:02:34 > 0:02:38he and I were so close, in a way, and we had such similar sensibility

0:02:38 > 0:02:44that I didn't have to think about writing like Mal Peet.

0:02:44 > 0:02:46I was writing as the voice of the book and that,

0:02:46 > 0:02:49for some reason...

0:02:49 > 0:02:51Because it's a strong enough voice.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53So that you can pick it up.

0:02:53 > 0:02:54Get its rhythms.

0:02:54 > 0:02:57Exactly.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00I found it remarkably effortless in the sense of picking up the voice

0:03:00 > 0:03:06and because I can't write the way Mal writes.

0:03:06 > 0:03:07He and I write quite differently but...

0:03:07 > 0:03:12You know, it's like adopting someone else's baby.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15You're not always thinking of someone else's mother, you are

0:03:15 > 0:03:18being the mother to that child.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21The boy in Beck, he is born as it were, by accident,

0:03:21 > 0:03:25by a sexual liaison, as a result of a sexual liaison that

0:03:25 > 0:03:29shouldn't have taken place or wasn't meant to.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31He is orphaned, educated by the Christian Brothers,

0:03:31 > 0:03:38in a school, in pretty harsh circumstances.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41He finds himself in the wilds of Canada during the Depression.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44This is the classic boy thrown into the wilderness and having

0:03:44 > 0:03:45to find himself, isn't it?

0:03:45 > 0:03:49It's an elemental story.

0:03:49 > 0:03:53It is an elemental story and it's interesting that the trajectory

0:03:53 > 0:03:55from Liverpool to Canada...

0:03:55 > 0:03:58I mean, Canada was such a wilderness and it was a wilderness

0:03:58 > 0:04:00after the American West was a wilderness.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02It almost has elements of the western, you know,

0:04:02 > 0:04:09the individual against nature as well as...

0:04:09 > 0:04:14The emptiness that lies ahead.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17The great emptiness and the kind of emptiness of his future and how

0:04:17 > 0:04:21he is going to somehow resolve what it means to have a home.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24Do you think because you didn't talk to Mal Peet about this,

0:04:24 > 0:04:27as you've told us, do you think the way you see

0:04:27 > 0:04:31the boy coming through it, developing,

0:04:31 > 0:04:37finding himself, is probably the same as he would have found it?

0:04:37 > 0:04:40I think he would have written a whole extra section to the book

0:04:40 > 0:04:44and I didn't want to get into writing a quarter of a book

0:04:44 > 0:04:47completely from scratch.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50I wrote a bit less than that in the end and...

0:04:50 > 0:04:54Do I think he would have been happy with what we did?

0:04:54 > 0:04:57Yeah, I think he would have been very happy, actually.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00And in fact I was rereading at the other day and thinking,

0:05:00 > 0:05:03damn, it would have been such fun to collaborate on a book

0:05:03 > 0:05:07because he did all the stuff that I don't particularly like doing,

0:05:07 > 0:05:11which is the plot and I did all the stuff that I think he liked

0:05:11 > 0:05:13doing less, which is the going over and over and refining

0:05:13 > 0:05:17and refining and you know, adding characters and fixing

0:05:17 > 0:05:21the dialogue and all that kind of stuff.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24You have written, both of you, he did and you do,

0:05:24 > 0:05:28for the same kinds of readers.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31He didn't like and I don't think you like the categorisation

0:05:31 > 0:05:33of readers by age because it can become a straitjacket, really,

0:05:33 > 0:05:37you write a book for all ages.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40But your focus has been for a similar, maybe

0:05:40 > 0:05:42what they call young adults.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45And I suppose in that sense, you are looking at the world

0:05:45 > 0:05:50through the same lens.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53I think both of us were interested in adolescence, more than interested

0:05:53 > 0:05:57in an adolescent audience and I think that there's

0:05:57 > 0:06:02a distinction, in a way and most writers will probably tell

0:06:02 > 0:06:04you that they are not very much focused on their audience

0:06:04 > 0:06:08when they are writing.

0:06:08 > 0:06:09No.

0:06:09 > 0:06:12You are focused on what is in your head.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14My own adolescence was quite a difficult period, not in the sense

0:06:14 > 0:06:18of having ended up in jail or being a drug addict or anything

0:06:18 > 0:06:20like that, but in terms of struggling to figure out

0:06:20 > 0:06:22where the edges of the world were and what it

0:06:22 > 0:06:25meant to be grown-up.

0:06:25 > 0:06:27Now, now that I am somewhat older, I actually think that really

0:06:27 > 0:06:30the whole trajectory of life is a transition from childhood

0:06:30 > 0:06:32to adulthood and that really, that process doesn't end

0:06:32 > 0:06:37until the day you die.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39The question is, do you ever get there?

0:06:39 > 0:06:41And I think the answer is no.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44A lovely phrase you used earlier when you talked about finding

0:06:44 > 0:06:47the edges of the world and in a way that is what the boy in Beck

0:06:48 > 0:06:52is trying to work out.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54He is in the wilds of Canada, has had a particularly

0:06:54 > 0:07:01difficult childhood, no home, cast adrift,

0:07:01 > 0:07:07so it's a very unusual experience and yet, the feelings he has

0:07:07 > 0:07:10and the things he learns are things that people who are living

0:07:10 > 0:07:15very conventional lives will also recognise.

0:07:15 > 0:07:16Yes.

0:07:16 > 0:07:17They've just been exaggerated.

0:07:18 > 0:07:18Exactly.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21That is what fiction does, an awful lot of the time.

0:07:21 > 0:07:24I'm always a little bit suspicious of too much plot in a novel

0:07:24 > 0:07:27because I sort of think the ideal novel should have no plot

0:07:27 > 0:07:30at all and really just concentrate on the mental journey but actually,

0:07:30 > 0:07:32it's a little bit more readable when the character

0:07:32 > 0:07:35is going through real hardship, in real life.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38I suspect what you hope most of all about this book

0:07:38 > 0:07:41is that Mal Peet would have liked the way it ends.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44I feel...

0:07:44 > 0:07:47Absolutely convinced that he'd have just had a laugh and a drink

0:07:47 > 0:07:51and said, you know, thank you for doing this,

0:07:51 > 0:07:53let's try it again.

0:07:53 > 0:07:55So I...

0:07:55 > 0:07:59Never felt any self-doubt in picking this up as a project and it was

0:07:59 > 0:08:02partly because when you are very close to someone you can almost

0:08:02 > 0:08:06hear their voice in your head.

0:08:06 > 0:08:10And it wasn't that he was directing me what to do, he was mostly,

0:08:10 > 0:08:11kind of, cheering me on.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13Meg Rosoff, thank you very much.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16Thank you.

0:08:26 > 0:08:26Hello.

0:08:26 > 0:08:27Hello. Good