Mike McCormack

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:00:00. > 3:59:59need not fear, he will be setting out on a tour of the UK. Strong

:00:00. > :00:00.wires, I hope! There isn't a single full

:00:00. > :00:00.stop in Mike McCormack's The story is a monologue that reads

:00:07. > :00:10.like a string of thoughts, sometimes poetic, sometimes

:00:11. > :00:13.rough, often disturbing. And they tell us about one man

:00:14. > :00:16.in one hour, on one day, His hopes and his disappointments,

:00:17. > :00:23.his fears and loves. A character is revealed,

:00:24. > :00:26.and so is the world This is a adventurous storytelling

:00:27. > :00:32.by a master craftsman. It's quite a bold thing to do,

:00:33. > :00:55.to write a novel of more than 250 It is, but you write the books that

:00:56. > :01:02.present themselves to you, and that's the way the book,

:01:03. > :01:04.the way Solar Bones You mean in its content,

:01:05. > :01:09.in the thoughts that you were dealing with,

:01:10. > :01:11.and not as a conscious It just seemed that was the way

:01:12. > :01:15.you should write it down? Very early on in the composition

:01:16. > :01:18.of the book, I realised that the narrator was the sort

:01:19. > :01:22.of person he was, and that he would speak

:01:23. > :01:26.in a continuous rolling rhythm. And once I had got that in my mind,

:01:27. > :01:33.it became second nature. And it recalled in it one

:01:34. > :01:36.of the exercises I had set myself years ago as a writer,

:01:37. > :01:40.to come in every morning and sit down at my desk and write whatever

:01:41. > :01:47.it was that came into my head. And the only strictures I put

:01:48. > :01:50.on it was that it had to transition neatly from what I had done the day

:01:51. > :01:53.before and that it had And so when I realised the book

:01:54. > :01:59.was going to be written in a continuous ongoing rhythm,

:02:00. > :02:03.I recalled that exercise. There is a natural feeling, I think,

:02:04. > :02:07.most readers will have, of a kind It would be hard to think that

:02:08. > :02:13.you didn't have Joyce somewhere in your head when you were producing

:02:14. > :02:19.a book of this kind. People have spoken about the book

:02:20. > :02:23.as a stream-of-consciousness novel, It doesn't have that kind

:02:24. > :02:30.of telegraphic staccato rhythms that you associate

:02:31. > :02:36.with stream of consciousness. It's much more an attempt to write

:02:37. > :02:38.something continuous, However, as an Irish writer,

:02:39. > :02:42.I've always been conscious of the fact that our great writers

:02:43. > :02:46.are experimental writers, I've always admired their

:02:47. > :02:50.recklessness and courage, So I would like as a writer

:02:51. > :02:56.to think that you had a part of that yourself,

:02:57. > :03:00.so that was where I took my... And of course, you're writing not

:03:01. > :03:05.just about an individual whose thoughts are happy and sad

:03:06. > :03:09.and confused, and sometimes crystal clear, and whose

:03:10. > :03:12.emotions are laid bare. And you are writing about a feeling

:03:13. > :03:20.of a country coming out of, really, an economic catastrophe which has

:03:21. > :03:24.impacted on people's lives in a very direct way,

:03:25. > :03:27.so it's a very contemporary novel I didn't set out to write a novel

:03:28. > :03:36.of the crash, or post-crash. Basically, what I set out to do

:03:37. > :03:39.was to capture the mind and life of this one

:03:40. > :03:43.man, this engineer. And as an engineer,

:03:44. > :03:45.as a civil engineer, that puts him at a nexus of a whole

:03:46. > :03:49.series of forces, politics, economics, all sorts of social

:03:50. > :03:56.movements and everything like that. Even civic catastrophes,

:03:57. > :03:59.like contamination of water The allure for me about Marcus

:04:00. > :04:04.Conway is that he's an engineer, God gave us heaven and earth

:04:05. > :04:10.and then He hands it over to engineers, and engineers make

:04:11. > :04:13.the world, and I was interested in seeing this man, who has this

:04:14. > :04:18.complete involvement with the world So that was what I found

:04:19. > :04:23.attractive about him. Well, you talk about

:04:24. > :04:25.the engineering, you also dropped in God there,

:04:26. > :04:28.and of course the book unfolds on All Souls' Day,

:04:29. > :04:34.the idea that there are these souls It begins with the tolling

:04:35. > :04:39.of the Angelus bell, and that bell seems to toll right

:04:40. > :04:41.through the book. I mean, you talk of its rhythmic

:04:42. > :04:45.character and the way it rolls on, and I suppose the sound of that

:04:46. > :04:50.as a kind of call to prayer, it really goes right

:04:51. > :04:52.through the book from beginning The book is an hour

:04:53. > :04:55.long and it's suspended One is the divine marker at 12:00

:04:56. > :05:02.and the other is the temporal marker for the 1:00 news at 1:00,

:05:03. > :05:11.so the book is spanned between... It's an hour long but in

:05:12. > :05:14.that hour he gets... He's inundated with a cascade

:05:15. > :05:18.of memories of his whole life. He's a soul who's susceptible

:05:19. > :05:21.to that kind of thing. And he himself remarks about that

:05:22. > :05:24.hour in the middle of the day. He always found it a soft,

:05:25. > :05:28.strange hour, in which the morning's best energies are gone and it's too

:05:29. > :05:34.early to sit down for the dinner, and the 1:00 news hasn't happened

:05:35. > :05:38.yet, so it's betwixt and between, and it seems to be susceptible

:05:39. > :05:41.to people like him. There's a fatalism running

:05:42. > :05:43.through the book too, a sense that things aren't random,

:05:44. > :05:46.that they appear And he talks about putting one foot

:05:47. > :05:52.in front of the other We're doomed to go through this

:05:53. > :05:56.journey in a very deliberate Is a nobility in itself

:05:57. > :06:06.and a heroism in itself, The book is a hymn to the everyday

:06:07. > :06:13.in many senses, and it's a hymn to a world that he has put his faith

:06:14. > :06:17.in, not only has he built, I think the longer I've dwelt on it

:06:18. > :06:22.after I've written it, the more it has kind of revealed

:06:23. > :06:25.itself to me as a book about faith. He went looking for God

:06:26. > :06:28.at an early stage in his life, and God effectively gave him two

:06:29. > :06:31.fingers and told him to go away And he turned from God

:06:32. > :06:36.and he became an engineer. And as his son says,

:06:37. > :06:39.his son puts it, he says, "You turned from the cross

:06:40. > :06:42.and you took up the theodolite, You laid that on the

:06:43. > :06:47.world and that." So it's a book about faith

:06:48. > :06:55.and a book about the everyday. It's a hymn to engineers

:06:56. > :06:57.and engineering. You talk about the experimental

:06:58. > :07:00.tradition in so much Irish writing. And that sort of heartbeat

:07:01. > :07:10.in his dramatic prose is the kind The heartbeat and the idea

:07:11. > :07:25.of a pulse was very much a concern with me in the book,

:07:26. > :07:29.and I don't know whether I managed to capture it or not,

:07:30. > :07:31.but it was certainly one Of course, being steeped in Beckett

:07:32. > :07:36.as well, you assimilate these things by osmosis,

:07:37. > :07:39.and they become a part of your fabric as a writer,

:07:40. > :07:45.as an Irish writer. You talk about being

:07:46. > :07:48.an Irish writer. Do you ever find that it's a bit

:07:49. > :07:56.weighty and a bit imprisoning? I've always considered myself

:07:57. > :08:01.to be an Irish writer, whatever that means,

:08:02. > :08:05.but for me it meant tapping into that reckless and generous

:08:06. > :08:10.tradition of experiment that Our greatest writers

:08:11. > :08:14.were unusual, I think, in that our greatest writers,

:08:15. > :08:17.our greatest fiction writers are exclusively our

:08:18. > :08:20.experimental writers. Beckett and Joyce and Flann O'Brien,

:08:21. > :08:25.the father, son and holy ghost, And if you're talking

:08:26. > :08:29.about any other writers, you've lowered your eyesight,

:08:30. > :08:31.you've lowered your So I wanted to take my cue

:08:32. > :08:39.from their experimental tradition, and did it tentatively

:08:40. > :08:43.in Notes From A Coma, my prayer novel, but I think grabbed

:08:44. > :08:48.it a bit more two-handedly in Solar Mike McCormack, thank you very much

:08:49. > :09:10.for talking about Solar Bones. A decent enough day across most of

:09:11. > :09:14.the UK today. We have a bit of rain in the forecast a night, mostly

:09:15. > :09:16.across northern areas, and it has been raining in Northern Ireland,

:09:17. > :09:17.Scotland, the Lake