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:00:13. > :00:15.Hello and welcome to Monday in Parliament.

:00:16. > :00:20.Sympathy and support for people affected by the severe flooding

:00:21. > :00:33.It is devastating for those people who were previously affected by

:00:34. > :00:36.flooding who believe that things would be better.

:00:37. > :00:42.Labour calls Universal Credit the new IDS postcode lottery.

:00:43. > :00:47.It is arbitrary. It is not fair. If you are a low wage working mother it

:00:48. > :00:50.And fears of a possible coordinated cyber attack

:00:51. > :01:00.There are huge fallibilities in the connections between the banks and

:01:01. > :01:06.the rest of the economy that some people say could lead to panic and

:01:07. > :01:09.one seasoned observer as a possibility of financial Armageddon.

:01:10. > :01:12.A clean-up operation is under way in the North West of England

:01:13. > :01:14.after Storm Desmond brought winds, torrential rain and flooding

:01:15. > :01:18.The worst hit areas were Cumbria and Lancashire where over 5,000

:01:19. > :01:21.homes were flooded - and tens of thousands were left without power.

:01:22. > :01:25.There was a record breaking amount of rainfall.

:01:26. > :01:28.David Cameron visited Cumbria to talk to local people

:01:29. > :01:34.In the Commons there were expressions of sympathy

:01:35. > :01:40.MPs debated England's flood defences and how far climate change is

:01:41. > :01:46.responsible for episodes of extreme weather.

:01:47. > :01:48.On Saturday night we saw an unprecedented amount of rainfall.

:01:49. > :01:50.More than a month's rain fell in one day.

:01:51. > :01:53.During Saturday night main rivers all across Cumbria exceeded

:01:54. > :01:59.There is a mark on the bridge in Carlisle showing

:02:00. > :02:08.The 2005 flood was half a metre higher than 1853 which was

:02:09. > :02:14.This flood was half a metre higher again.

:02:15. > :02:17.We will continue to ensure that all resources are made available to

:02:18. > :02:22.Cobra will continue to meet daily to oversee recovery efforts

:02:23. > :02:27.and I will be travelling to Cumbria and Lancashire after this statement

:02:28. > :02:38.to continue to ensure we are doing all we can to help those affected.

:02:39. > :02:43.I know local communities will want to know what action Government will

:02:44. > :02:46.be taking to support the recovery phase.

:02:47. > :02:54.I am pleased to confirm to the House that my colleague the Communities

:02:55. > :02:56.Secretary will shortly be opening the scheme for local

:02:57. > :03:00.100% of eligible costs will be met by the Government.

:03:01. > :03:02.Your predecessor was not someone prepared to acknowledge

:03:03. > :03:05.Does the Secretary of State agree that extreme weather

:03:06. > :03:09.events unfortunately are increasingly a feature of British

:03:10. > :03:13.weather and that Government policy has to adapt accordingly?

:03:14. > :03:15.In one year alone the Coalition slashed flood spending

:03:16. > :03:22.Will the Secretary of State now accept that this left

:03:23. > :03:27.the UK unprepared for extreme weather events?

:03:28. > :03:30.It has been devastating for those who previously were

:03:31. > :03:33.affected by flooding who believed that things would be better and have

:03:34. > :03:36.My huge sympathy goes to those business owners

:03:37. > :03:39.and local residents and I hope to meet them later today and tomorrow.

:03:40. > :03:42.And the honourable lady is absolutely right about the extreme

:03:43. > :03:47.As we say it is consistent with the trends we are seeing

:03:48. > :03:51.Climate change is factored into all the modelling work

:03:52. > :03:58.And clearly in the light of this extreme weather we are going

:03:59. > :04:04.And she defended the Government's record on flood defences.

:04:05. > :04:07.Over the last Parliament we spent 1.7 billion on capital spending

:04:08. > :04:14.That was a real terms increase on what was spent between 2005

:04:15. > :04:21.Our next six-year programme is 2.3 billion which again represents

:04:22. > :04:29.The floods that have brought so much damage throughout the north west.

:04:30. > :04:32.I would like to reinforce the point about insurance claims.

:04:33. > :04:34.Insurance claims should be met speedily,

:04:35. > :04:42.People's needs are now and not in six months' time.

:04:43. > :04:46.Also put on record my thanks to the emergency services and the

:04:47. > :04:51.Department for Transport for the work they put in over the weekend.

:04:52. > :04:55.Can the Secretary of State assure me that she will continue to work with

:04:56. > :04:58.farmers in my constituency to ensure that the devastation that some of

:04:59. > :05:01.them suffered over recent days will be looked at with some sympathy?

:05:02. > :05:06.Some parts of York were four metres underwater.

:05:07. > :05:08.This is the second flooding they have had within a month.

:05:09. > :05:11.Businesses pay a heavy price for flooding.

:05:12. > :05:15.Can the Secretary of State ensure that sandbags

:05:16. > :05:18.and pumps are available free for businesses because they do pay

:05:19. > :05:32.One has to live through such an event to understand

:05:33. > :05:36.the devastation that that visits upon communities and families.

:05:37. > :05:39.But the Secretary of State has made a great deal of

:05:40. > :05:42.play about the real terms increase in flood maintenance spending.

:05:43. > :05:45.However can she assure the House that she thinks there is an adequate

:05:46. > :05:48.level of funding to start with in the budget for flood maintenance

:05:49. > :05:52.and that the Environment Agency is adequately funded to discharge its

:05:53. > :05:58.role in relation to flood prevention and flood response?

:05:59. > :06:01.Liz Truss replied that the flood defences

:06:02. > :06:04.in Cumbria did delay the impact but it was clearly an area that

:06:05. > :06:10.A man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after a knife

:06:11. > :06:14.attack at Leytonstone Underground station in east London on Saturday.

:06:15. > :06:17.A 56-year-old man was left with serious stab wounds

:06:18. > :06:21.and another person was injured during the attack.

:06:22. > :06:23.At the start of the day in the Commons,

:06:24. > :06:29.the Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith made a brief comment.

:06:30. > :06:31.His constituency is in North East London.

:06:32. > :06:36.Questions to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

:06:37. > :06:50.Mr Speake,r I wonder whether with your permission I might just take

:06:51. > :06:52.this opportunity, given the weekemd's events in my borough, to

:06:53. > :06:55.say on behalf of myself and my other colleagues on the other side of the

:06:56. > :06:58.House that we wish a speedy recovery to those who have

:06:59. > :07:02.been injured by this tragic event at the Tube station in Leytonstone.

:07:03. > :07:04.When question time got underway, Iain Duncan Smith faced criticism

:07:05. > :07:07.about plans to cut the welfare budget by ?12 billion.

:07:08. > :07:09.MPs said that people moving on to the new benefit -

:07:10. > :07:14.Universal Credit - would be worse off than they are now.

:07:15. > :07:17.The Government's forced U-turn on tax credits is very welcome to

:07:18. > :07:21.those families in my constituency that were set to be affected

:07:22. > :07:25.by it but many are being moved on to the Universal Credit system and

:07:26. > :07:29.Given that young people in particular will not qualify for

:07:30. > :07:34.the Government's so-called national living wage how does the Government

:07:35. > :07:43.The key thing about what he is saying is that first of all

:07:44. > :07:49.as a result of the budget there is nothing new in the Spending Review.

:07:50. > :07:53.Long-term generosity of the welfare system will be cus

:07:54. > :08:03.In other words the 12 billion savings were exactly as pretty

:08:04. > :08:07.Can I just say Universal Credit has a huge effect.

:08:08. > :08:09.Published figures this week show that Universal Credit means more

:08:10. > :08:11.people go into work faster, they stay in work longer

:08:12. > :08:15.That is a huge change that will affect young people dramatically

:08:16. > :08:31.The truth is the Chancellor bailed himself out of the hole he dug on

:08:32. > :08:33.tax credits by raiding the Universal Credit system creating a deeply

:08:34. > :08:36.unfair two tier system where a working mother on Universal Credit

:08:37. > :08:39.will next year be ?3,000 worse off than her equivalent on tax credits.

:08:40. > :08:44.In all 2.6 million families will be ?1,600 on average worse off.

:08:45. > :08:52.It is arbitrary, it is unfair, and if you are a low wage working

:08:53. > :09:02.Let me just say to the honourable gentleman,

:09:03. > :09:04.his party who has opposed Universal Credit from the outset can hardly

:09:05. > :09:08.say that they are in the slightest bit interested in how it works.

:09:09. > :09:11.The reality is all of those calculations for lone parents do

:09:12. > :09:24.The childcare package that comes with Universal Credit is

:09:25. > :09:30.Perhaps you would like to keep quiet and listen for once to somebody who

:09:31. > :09:34.I say to him very simply that the childcare package on

:09:35. > :09:36.Universal Credit gives parents with children childcare support for every

:09:37. > :09:44.Under tax credit they got next to nothing.

:09:45. > :09:48.While we welcome the apparent U-turn on cuts to tax credits it appears

:09:49. > :09:55.that the cuts to work allowance will continue to go ahead under

:09:56. > :09:57.Universal Credit, hitting families just as hard.

:09:58. > :10:01.Can the Secretary of State assure us today that

:10:02. > :10:04.the tax credits U-turn will also apply to the corresponding elements

:10:05. > :10:06.of Universal Credit or confirm our suspicions that this so-called

:10:07. > :10:11.The Universal Credit position is exactly as set out in the summer

:10:12. > :10:13.budget and that means as we understand it and as we calculate

:10:14. > :10:19.it, and the figures released in the last 24 hours show categorically,

:10:20. > :10:22.there will be a huge improvement to the numbers

:10:23. > :10:25.people going back into work, working full-time, and earning more money.

:10:26. > :10:28.And he believed that eventually Neil Gray would be one

:10:29. > :10:34.of the first people to say, thank God we brought in Universal Credit.

:10:35. > :10:38.Now back in February a report by the Public Accounts Committee found

:10:39. > :10:40.very little progress had been made on the implementation of Universal

:10:41. > :10:44.Credit, which has been beset by delays and concerns about cost.

:10:45. > :10:47.Revisiting the scheme with the DWP Permanent Secretary Robert Devereux

:10:48. > :10:53.MPs still felt that the department was not coming entirely clean.

:10:54. > :10:57.There is nothing in the public domain by reference to

:10:58. > :11:08.which this committee, the taxpayer, can measure the success or failure

:11:09. > :11:19.The point he is making repeatedly and quite rightly if these are

:11:20. > :11:22.fairly broad-based milestones but we are now getting to the point

:11:23. > :11:25.of actual physically delivery on the ground and I don't think there

:11:26. > :11:28.should be any reason for the DWP to hide what the aims are.

:11:29. > :11:30.We understand these big projects may slip at times.

:11:31. > :11:33.But knowing what the aim was and then being able to ask

:11:34. > :11:35.questions about why there has been slippage is pretty important.

:11:36. > :11:38.The flexibility, we sometimes feel on this committee, has been used

:11:39. > :11:43.You have, I suggest, not put into the public domain the dates

:11:44. > :11:45.by which milestones are supposed to be achieved which are presently

:11:46. > :11:48.internal to the Department so that neither I, nor this committee, nor

:11:49. > :11:51.Parliament, nor the taxpayer can see whether you are behind again.

:11:52. > :11:58.My first question to the Prime Minister in the summer was when will

:11:59. > :12:00.Universal Credit come into Bristol South, to which he said, soon.

:12:01. > :12:04.We cannot operate on the principle of soon.

:12:05. > :12:07.It has now started with the low hanging fruit if you like.

:12:08. > :12:09.But in talking to our constituents day by day,

:12:10. > :12:12.without the detail of what Mr Phillips is talking about, we cannot

:12:13. > :12:29.It is causing a great deal of upset on the ground.

:12:30. > :12:32.Have you shared a detailed plan or indeed any plan with local

:12:33. > :12:34.authorities and other delivery partners for the roll-out of the

:12:35. > :12:39.As I explained they are talking to them about that now.

:12:40. > :12:44.Is that every local authority in the country as part of this?

:12:45. > :12:47.We're looking to those local authorities who we think will be

:12:48. > :12:49.in the first phase of the May 2016 plan.

:12:50. > :12:52.We're doing that on the basis of not central Government dictating

:12:53. > :12:58.How many authorities is that in 2016?

:12:59. > :13:03.By May 2016 I will want to have settled the plan for 2016, 2017.

:13:04. > :13:10.How many authorities are you talking to in whose area this is going to be

:13:11. > :13:21.By the end of about 2017 we will be...

:13:22. > :13:28.We will be doing five in May and we have just announced them.

:13:29. > :13:34.When will the twin track approach come to an end?

:13:35. > :13:43.When is it finally going to be on digital service?

:13:44. > :13:46.As part of the roll-out of digital service,

:13:47. > :13:52.as we roll out an application, we will end of the live service and

:13:53. > :13:55.move people from the live service over to the new full-service.

:13:56. > :14:01.It is acceptable for you to say I do not know.

:14:02. > :14:13.I was just trying to explain to you that this process, what date,

:14:14. > :14:17.The final cases on the live service we expect to be finished

:14:18. > :14:23.In October '18 the live service will be finished.

:14:24. > :14:29.You are asking us to be clear about when are going to be seeing things.

:14:30. > :14:41.We are quite consciously saying to you, I am not going to put out

:14:42. > :14:43.the best guess of the entire shooting match because I

:14:44. > :14:47.do not have a best guess that is worth the paper that is written on.

:14:48. > :14:51.Can I have your undertaking that perhaps you and your colleagues will

:14:52. > :14:54.have a discussion as to useful milestones that might be set by

:14:55. > :14:56.reference to which this committee, Parliament and the taxpayer can

:14:57. > :14:59.measure whether or not this programme is doing well and

:15:00. > :15:02.I am very happy to have that conversation.

:15:03. > :15:17.Thank you. It was a relieved looking Mr

:15:18. > :15:17.Devereux who was finally told he could go.

:15:18. > :15:19.You're watching Monday in Parliament, with me,

:15:20. > :15:23.Now, the Government has been urged to carry out more research

:15:24. > :15:24.into the impact on bees of neonicotinoid pesticides.

:15:25. > :15:28.The UK has seen a decline in bee numbers and MPs are divided

:15:29. > :15:32.MPs used a debate in Westminster Hall to consider an e-petition,

:15:33. > :15:43.signed by 90,000 people, calling for a full ban to be reintroduced.

:15:44. > :15:48.There have been field studies that suggest that the levels of exposure

:15:49. > :15:50.experienced by bees in the wild are not sufficient enough to cause any

:15:51. > :15:55.negative consequences for pollinators. The problem with

:15:56. > :15:58.relying on this assertion is that there has not been experiments of a

:15:59. > :16:02.significant scale to provide definitive evidence to base our

:16:03. > :16:08.approach to neonicotinoids. The current usage authorised by the

:16:09. > :16:11.government would be a good chance to ascertain on a bigger scale what

:16:12. > :16:16.they impact may be. Science must always be front and centre in taking

:16:17. > :16:19.decisions, but where it is uncertain, the precautionary

:16:20. > :16:21.principle should always come to the fore.

:16:22. > :16:24.Earlier this year, the single study used to justify the UK voting

:16:25. > :16:29.against current restrictions was widely discredited. Key scientists

:16:30. > :16:33.behind it actually left to join a pesticide company. Does he agree in

:16:34. > :16:35.light we also need to rebuild the decision?

:16:36. > :16:41.High number of signatures on the petition shows the concern of the

:16:42. > :16:44.public. I would urge the government to gather together more scientific

:16:45. > :16:47.evidence from the EU research, as well as science currently using a

:16:48. > :16:52.banned neonicotinoids, and I would like to see them consider other

:16:53. > :16:56.types of neonics which are currently authorised but may have a

:16:57. > :17:00.detrimental effect. Since 1990, we should be reminded, the UK has lost

:17:01. > :17:04.around 20 species of bees. We cannot afford to keep losing these crucial

:17:05. > :17:08.pollinators. Bees have been the unhappy victims

:17:09. > :17:11.of neonicotinoid use, and their decline is utterly devastating for

:17:12. > :17:14.wildlife and damaging for food production and our agricultural

:17:15. > :17:19.economy, and it is time the government ends what some others

:17:20. > :17:22.fear might be a slight case of knee jerk anti-Europeanism, and that

:17:23. > :17:26.would be to publish scientific sense and make sure our bees and farmers

:17:27. > :17:30.can flourish in future. No one can argue that insecticides

:17:31. > :17:34.are designed to kill insects. They are actually acute toxins, so bees

:17:35. > :17:39.and other important pollinators are bound to be killed by insecticides

:17:40. > :17:45.targeted at, for example, the flea beetle, which is the pest attacking

:17:46. > :17:47.the oilseed rape, which farmers want to control.

:17:48. > :17:53.Bees and pollinating insects are vital to our health, well-being in

:17:54. > :17:56.future. These pats tight -- pesticides are rightly banned in the

:17:57. > :17:59.EU while full-time to the test carried out as yet they are harmful.

:18:00. > :18:03.The decision by the Scottish Government and the Cabinet Secretary

:18:04. > :18:06.Richard Lochhead that they will not support any relaxation of

:18:07. > :18:14.restrictions unless there is clear evidence that neonicotinoids do not

:18:15. > :18:17.pose any threats to these species is correct and the right way to

:18:18. > :18:21.proceed. In 2013, the last government was

:18:22. > :18:27.found to be failing in the majority of its environmental commitments.

:18:28. > :18:31.30% of UK ecosystem services, such as pollination, were found to be in

:18:32. > :18:36.decline. We come preventively failed to deliver on -- they come

:18:37. > :18:40.preventively failed to deliver on their biodiversity strategy, and

:18:41. > :18:43.their promise to leave the environment in a better condition

:18:44. > :18:47.than they had founded. Over the next 25 years, there is a 25 year plan to

:18:48. > :18:50.restore the UK's biodiversity, and it has not begun to start to put

:18:51. > :18:53.that right. We are adopting a precautionary,

:18:54. > :18:58.evidence -based principle. We are very clear that in adopting the

:18:59. > :19:01.precautionary principle, it should be a precautionary principle based

:19:02. > :19:05.on an assessment of risk, not based on theoretical hazard. If you want a

:19:06. > :19:11.precautionary approach, over time, we will have fewer pesticides that

:19:12. > :19:15.are available in general, but as they are removed, as a precaution,

:19:16. > :19:20.it is important that we make available the opportunity to grant

:19:21. > :19:24.an emergency authorisation. Otherwise, what you have is a sort

:19:25. > :19:31.of unintended consequence. You start farmers to start to use other

:19:32. > :19:34.chemicals to escape the attention of the scientific immunity, but they

:19:35. > :19:37.may be even more damaging. For example, when this band first came

:19:38. > :19:42.in, there was some evidence that there was a shift to using another

:19:43. > :19:46.chemical which was actually dangerous to birds. They then moved

:19:47. > :19:47.to ban that chemical. Say you have to consider the unintended

:19:48. > :19:48.consequences. To the Lords now,

:19:49. > :19:50.where peers questioned the Government over how secure the UK is

:19:51. > :19:53.against the threat of cyberattacks. In particular,

:19:54. > :20:03.concerns were raised about the My Lords, one of the most serious

:20:04. > :20:09.threat we face is that of coordinated cyber attack against the

:20:10. > :20:13.UK financial sector. The Bank of England have shown that individual

:20:14. > :20:17.banks, especially the large banks, are pretty well protected, but

:20:18. > :20:20.they're right huge vulnerabilities in the connections between the banks

:20:21. > :20:26.and the rest of the economy, which some people say could lead to

:20:27. > :20:31.panic, and one quite seasoned observer described as a possibility

:20:32. > :20:35.of financial Armageddon, the meltdown of the system, given that

:20:36. > :20:37.most money today is electronic, no longer held in the form of cash.

:20:38. > :20:40.Lord Giddens asked what steps the government was taking to address

:20:41. > :20:48.As regards the specific point, as he may know, there have been a number

:20:49. > :20:51.of exercises the financial sector, including the City of London, have

:20:52. > :20:59.been able to take in recent years. Waking Shark One, Waking Shark To,

:21:00. > :21:03.the market wide exercise, plus more recently, the Resilient Shield

:21:04. > :21:10.exercise, last month, between the US and UK. In June, it was agreed that

:21:11. > :21:14.the bank, the PRA and the FRC a should also arrange for sea bass

:21:15. > :21:19.tests to become one component of regular cyber resilience assessment

:21:20. > :21:25.within the UK financial system. The noble Lord and Minister will may

:21:26. > :21:30.be aware that the infrastructure in most of the exchanges of the

:21:31. > :21:40.internet service providers in this country is supplied by a Chinese

:21:41. > :21:46.company. In the previous Coalition Government, I believe Sir Malcolm

:21:47. > :21:54.Rifkind was commissioned to go and enquire as to the vulnerability the

:21:55. > :21:55.country has, with the possible instruction of the Chinese

:21:56. > :21:59.government to shut our systems down. government to shut our systems down.

:22:00. > :22:05.And I wonder whether the noble Lord has any results of this

:22:06. > :22:11.investigation by Sir Malcolm Rifkind. He should also be aware

:22:12. > :22:15.that the United States do not allow this company to operate.

:22:16. > :22:20.Clearly, we are not complacent on this issue. I would like to also

:22:21. > :22:24.point out that virtually every telecommunications network worldwide

:22:25. > :22:28.incorporates foreign technology. Can I ask the noble Lord, the

:22:29. > :22:33.minister, to confirm that the firing chain for Trident in its entirety is

:22:34. > :22:39.head capped, as it certainly was until 2006 -- air gapped, and

:22:40. > :22:44.therefore in vulnerable to cyber attack, and Canales confirm any

:22:45. > :22:47.updates planned to that firing chain will remain air gapped? If it is

:22:48. > :22:48.not, clearly that gives a vulnerability.

:22:49. > :22:51."Air gapped" means that the network operating Trident is isolated

:22:52. > :22:52.from other systems that could be less secure.

:22:53. > :22:55.The minister said he could not comment on the details of security

:22:56. > :23:00.for the nuclear deterrent, but that it was guarded from cyberattack.

:23:01. > :23:07.May I ask the noble Lord, the Minister, if he can update the

:23:08. > :23:09.figures, I think, from last year, of substantial attacks on the British

:23:10. > :23:15.governing institutions and businesses which were then running

:23:16. > :23:18.between 150 and 200 per month? Has that figure changed substantially,

:23:19. > :23:21.and has there been the slightest indication that since the Chinese

:23:22. > :23:24.leadership pledged to the Prime Minister that they would lay off,

:23:25. > :23:28.that there has indeed been an easing from that quarter?

:23:29. > :23:34.I can give some figures. GCHQ typically responds to an average of

:23:35. > :23:39.17 sophisticated attacks on government networks per quarter. In

:23:40. > :23:42.summer 2014, GCHQ responded to approximately 200 incidents, and

:23:43. > :23:43.during summer 2015, this figure doubled to nearly 400.

:23:44. > :23:45.The founder of the Big Issue magazine, John Bird,

:23:46. > :23:50.Mr Bird set up the publication in 1991 as a way of helping

:23:51. > :23:53.He will sit as a crossbench or independent peer,

:23:54. > :24:13.I, John, Lord Birt, do swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful

:24:14. > :24:17.and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth, Her

:24:18. > :24:18.Majesty and successors, so help me God.

:24:19. > :24:21.And the steady stream of former Lib Dem MPs into the House of Lords

:24:22. > :24:32.continued with the arrival of Andrew Stunnell.

:24:33. > :24:36.I, Lord Andrew Stunnell, do swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful

:24:37. > :24:37.and swear true allegiance to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth.

:24:38. > :24:41.A fresh effort to allow voting at 16 has been made during a debate on the

:24:42. > :24:44.The Liberal Democrat Norman Lamb argued that 16-year-olds

:24:45. > :24:57.My argument is that we can reduce it, because people at the age of 16

:24:58. > :25:01.and 17 do, as he rightly says, have rights, and can play a significant

:25:02. > :25:07.part in society, joining the Armed Forces, for example, working and

:25:08. > :25:11.paying taxes on their income, marrying. These are all significant

:25:12. > :25:14.rights and responsibilities, and if they have rights and

:25:15. > :25:18.responsibilities, they ought surely to have a say in the election of our

:25:19. > :25:23.national government and in the election of local authorities as

:25:24. > :25:27.well. I give weight. If he were charged with a serious

:25:28. > :25:30.offence, would he really wants 16 and 17-year-old serving on a jury,

:25:31. > :25:34.deciding on his guilt, or innocence? Because I certainly would

:25:35. > :25:37.not, and I think there is a level of majority we are talking about, and

:25:38. > :25:40.drawing a line is an appropriate one. If you would not want a

:25:41. > :25:43.16-year-old sitting on a jury deciding whether you go to jail for

:25:44. > :25:48.ten years, I suggest you would not want to let them pay a part in the

:25:49. > :25:49.election of the country. -- play a part.

:25:50. > :25:51.And it looks as if the Government shares his concerns.

:25:52. > :25:54.Ministers are likely to block proposals voted through by the House

:25:55. > :25:57.of Lords to let 16- and 17-year-olds vote in the EU referendum.

:25:58. > :25:58.And that's it from Monday in Parliament.

:25:59. > :26:02.Keith Macdougall will be here for the rest of the week but