0:00:15 > 0:00:17Hello and welcome to Monday In Parliament,
0:00:17 > 0:00:18our look at the day at Westminster.
0:00:18 > 0:00:19The headlines...
0:00:19 > 0:00:23The Defence Secretary says he has full confidence in the Trident
0:00:23 > 0:00:26nuclear deterrent, but won't give the Commons any details on reports
0:00:26 > 0:00:30of an unarmed missile going off course in a test last year.
0:00:30 > 0:00:34Labour have questioned the Prime Minister's response.
0:00:34 > 0:00:38And yet when she came to this House on the 18th of July to
0:00:38 > 0:00:41call on members to back the renewal of Britain's nuclear submarines,
0:00:41 > 0:00:45she did not say a word, not a single word.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47But many Conservative MPs defended Trident and the need
0:00:47 > 0:00:50to keep the tests secret.
0:00:50 > 0:00:54Is it not the case that the unilateralists
0:00:54 > 0:00:56opposite who are complaining today are in the position of eunuchs
0:00:56 > 0:00:58complaining about the cost of Viagra?
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Also tonight, users of adult social care explain what the shortage
0:01:02 > 0:01:05of funding means for their lives.
0:01:05 > 0:01:08It's now legally acceptable for them to just say use
0:01:08 > 0:01:10incontinence pads even if you're not incontinent because
0:01:10 > 0:01:14you can't have a night-time carer.
0:01:14 > 0:01:17The Defence Secretary has told MPs he has "full confidence"
0:01:17 > 0:01:19in the Trident nuclear weapons system, following reports
0:01:19 > 0:01:23of an unarmed missile going off-course during a test launch.
0:01:23 > 0:01:27But Sir Michael Fallon would not be drawn on the reports,
0:01:27 > 0:01:29other than to tell MPs not to believe everything
0:01:29 > 0:01:31they read in the papers.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34Before an urgent question on the subject from a former defence
0:01:34 > 0:01:36minister, there was a call from the Conservative
0:01:36 > 0:01:39Jacob Rees-Mogg for the Commons sit in private.
0:01:39 > 0:01:44Mr Speaker, as the matters we are about to discuss
0:01:44 > 0:01:47are of the utmost confidentiality and may give succour to Her
0:01:47 > 0:01:48Majesty's enemies, I beg to move...
0:01:48 > 0:01:55I beg to move that the House sit in private.
0:01:55 > 0:01:58Under standing order number 163, I am obliged to put this question
0:01:58 > 0:02:06to the House without debate.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08The question is that the House do sit in private.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10As many as are of the opinion, say "aye".
0:02:10 > 0:02:11Aye.
0:02:11 > 0:02:12To the contrary, "no".
0:02:12 > 0:02:13No.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15I think the noes have it.
0:02:15 > 0:02:16The noes have it.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18In June last year, the Royal Navy conducted a demonstration
0:02:18 > 0:02:23and shakedown operation designed to certify HMS Vengeance
0:02:23 > 0:02:29and her crew prior to their return to operations.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33This included a routine, unarmed Trident missile test launch.
0:02:33 > 0:02:39Contrary to reports in the weekend press, HMS Vengeance and her crew
0:02:39 > 0:02:42were successfully tested and certified as ready to rejoin
0:02:42 > 0:02:47the operational cycle.
0:02:47 > 0:02:54We do not comment on the detail of submarine operations.
0:02:54 > 0:02:59I can however assure the House that during any test-firing,
0:02:59 > 0:03:01the safety of the crew and public is paramount and is
0:03:01 > 0:03:04never compromised.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08He will have seen the press at the weekend, the claims
0:03:08 > 0:03:11that the missile veered off towards the United States.
0:03:11 > 0:03:15Could he confirm whether that was the case?
0:03:15 > 0:03:18Could he also tell the House when he was first informed
0:03:18 > 0:03:21that there was a problem with the test and when his
0:03:21 > 0:03:23department informed the then Prime Minister David Cameron
0:03:23 > 0:03:26of the problem?
0:03:26 > 0:03:31Yesterday, the Prime Minister refused four times on live
0:03:31 > 0:03:33television to say when she became aware of the details
0:03:33 > 0:03:36of this missile test.
0:03:36 > 0:03:40Today number ten admitted that the Prime Minister was told
0:03:40 > 0:03:43about this incident as soon as she took office.
0:03:43 > 0:03:47And yet when she came to this House on the 18th of July to call
0:03:47 > 0:03:49on members to back the renewal of Britain's nuclear submarines,
0:03:49 > 0:03:53she did not say a word, not a single word.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56Mr Speaker, this is just not good enough.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59The British public deserve the facts on a matter of importance
0:03:59 > 0:04:07of Britain's nuclear deterrent and they deserve to hear those facts
0:04:07 > 0:04:09from the Prime Minister, not in allegations sprawled
0:04:09 > 0:04:10across a Sunday paper.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12Is the Secretary of State telling us that nothing went wrong
0:04:12 > 0:04:16on this particular launch?
0:04:16 > 0:04:18While accepting that the nuclear deterrent needs to be
0:04:18 > 0:04:25shrouded in secrecy, it also needs to deter and once
0:04:25 > 0:04:27stories get out there that a missile may have failed,
0:04:27 > 0:04:31isn't it better to be quite frank about it,
0:04:31 > 0:04:34especially if it has no strategic significance as in this case
0:04:34 > 0:04:38it probably has none?
0:04:38 > 0:04:42It is absolutely outrageous that this House had to rely
0:04:42 > 0:04:45on a leak to a Sunday newspaper to find out about this
0:04:45 > 0:04:47and the subsequent cover-up.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50Can the Secretary of State tell me when did he first find out
0:04:50 > 0:04:53about this missile failure?
0:04:53 > 0:04:56Was it he who informed the new Prime Minister
0:04:56 > 0:04:59about the failure and who took the decision not to inform
0:04:59 > 0:05:05Parliament of this incident?
0:05:05 > 0:05:12Well, the honourable gentleman, of course, is opposed to the Trident
0:05:12 > 0:05:15deterrent that has kept this country safe for so many years.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17Let me, first of all, caution him against believing
0:05:17 > 0:05:21everything he has read in the weekend press.
0:05:21 > 0:05:22Ah, yes.
0:05:22 > 0:05:23Young Gove.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25Mr Michael Gove.
0:05:25 > 0:05:30Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34Would my right honourable friend agree that investment
0:05:34 > 0:05:36in our continuous at sea nuclear deterrent has bought us not only
0:05:36 > 0:05:39peace since 1968 and the protection of western Europe but has also
0:05:39 > 0:05:41congruent with our position as a Permanent Five member
0:05:42 > 0:05:43of the UN's Security Council?
0:05:43 > 0:05:47And is it not the case that the unilateralists opposite
0:05:47 > 0:05:49who are complaining today are in the position
0:05:49 > 0:05:54of eunuchs complaining about the cost of Viagra?
0:05:54 > 0:06:01I agree with all three, all three of my right honourable
0:06:02 > 0:06:03friend's propositions.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06The Secretary of State has advised us not to believe everything we read
0:06:06 > 0:06:09in the Sunday newspapers but should we believe the White House official
0:06:09 > 0:06:11who, while we've been sitting here debating,
0:06:11 > 0:06:15has confirmed to CNN that the missile did auto
0:06:15 > 0:06:18self-destruct off the coast of Florida and if that is the case,
0:06:18 > 0:06:20why is the British Parliament and the British public the last
0:06:20 > 0:06:24people to know?
0:06:24 > 0:06:25Mr Hague.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28We do not, in this House, nor has any previous Government
0:06:28 > 0:06:35given operational details of the demonstration and shakedown
0:06:35 > 0:06:40operation of one of our submarines conducting a test with one
0:06:40 > 0:06:43of our Trident missiles.
0:06:43 > 0:06:45Later, in the House of Lords, the historian Lord Hennessy said
0:06:45 > 0:06:49he witnessed the test last June.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53May I declare an interest in that I witnessed the launch in question
0:06:53 > 0:06:55from the survey vessel two and a half miles away
0:06:55 > 0:06:59from where the missile came out of the sea?
0:06:59 > 0:07:06My Lords, may I put it to the noble Earl, the minister,
0:07:06 > 0:07:09with great respect, that for those of us who support the independent
0:07:09 > 0:07:11deterrent, very powerfully supported, and also the building
0:07:11 > 0:07:13of the four dreadnoughts submarines in the successor class,
0:07:13 > 0:07:20it would make it much easier for us to make the case generally in
0:07:20 > 0:07:23the country when we are interviewed in the media if the noble Earl
0:07:23 > 0:07:25could assure us that a full analysis has been successfully made
0:07:25 > 0:07:29of whatever it was that went wrong, and I have no knowledge at all
0:07:29 > 0:07:34of the nature of what went wrong, and remedies have been put in place.
0:07:34 > 0:07:36The Defence Minister, Lord Howe, said there was "absolute
0:07:36 > 0:07:38confidence" in the system.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40The government has launched a new industrial strategy preparing
0:07:40 > 0:07:42for Britain's post-Brexit future.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45The plans, personally unveiled by the Prime Minister at a cabinet
0:07:45 > 0:07:47meeting in Cheshire, include a ?556 million
0:07:47 > 0:07:57boost for the so-called "northern Powerhouse",
0:07:57 > 0:08:00an overhaul of technical education and a ?170 million cash
0:08:00 > 0:08:01injection for science, technology, engineering
0:08:01 > 0:08:03and innovation.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05The Business Secretary told MPs it was about creating
0:08:05 > 0:08:08the right conditions for new and growing enterprises.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10To meet these challenges, we have identified ten pillars around
0:08:10 > 0:08:14which the strategy is structured.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17That is to say ten areas of action to drive growth across the economy
0:08:17 > 0:08:20and in every part of the country.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22They're to invest in science, research and innovation,
0:08:22 > 0:08:28to further develop our skills, to upgrade our infrastructure,
0:08:28 > 0:08:31to support businesses to start and grow, to improve public
0:08:31 > 0:08:34procurement, to encourage trade and investment,
0:08:34 > 0:08:38to deliver affordable energy and clean growth, to cultivate
0:08:38 > 0:08:42world leading sectors, to drive growth across all parts
0:08:42 > 0:08:45of the country and to create the right institutions to bring
0:08:45 > 0:08:48together sectors and places.
0:08:48 > 0:08:51Across all of these areas, the Government is taking strategic
0:08:51 > 0:08:55decisions to keep British business on the front foot.
0:08:55 > 0:08:59There is a glaring inconsistency between the noble aims of this green
0:08:59 > 0:09:01paper and the threats made by the Prime Minister to turn
0:09:01 > 0:09:04Britain into an offshore tax haven if she fails
0:09:04 > 0:09:08in her Brexit negotiations.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11Until now, the industrial strategy has seemingly consisted of one deal,
0:09:11 > 0:09:14made in secret with Nissan.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17If the Nissan deal didn't last six months, how can businesses be
0:09:17 > 0:09:25confident of the other commitments in this green paper?
0:09:25 > 0:09:27It's often said, correctly, that an industrial strategy
0:09:27 > 0:09:30is a long-term project and that to work it must outlast
0:09:30 > 0:09:33particular governments.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36With this in mind, I can pledge our support for its broad aims
0:09:36 > 0:09:39from this side of the chamber but I feel compelled to ask,
0:09:39 > 0:09:42can the Secretary of State count on the same from his own side?
0:09:42 > 0:09:46When we previously debated the industrial strategy here,
0:09:46 > 0:09:48one of his own honourable friends said they had
0:09:48 > 0:09:49two problems with it.
0:09:49 > 0:09:51One was industrial and the other was strategy.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54However good this industrial strategy may be, we have to accept
0:09:54 > 0:09:56that the biggest threat to Scotland's economy and I believe
0:09:56 > 0:09:59the UK economy is the lack of access to the markets and the skilled
0:09:59 > 0:10:03people that come through our EU membership.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06Will he give serious consideration to the Scottish Government's plans
0:10:06 > 0:10:08that would see Scotland maintain its membership
0:10:08 > 0:10:10of the European single market?
0:10:10 > 0:10:15There's one area of infrastructure where Britain lags behind
0:10:15 > 0:10:17all our competitors enormously and that's with the
0:10:17 > 0:10:22cost of childcare.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24Childcare in Britain costs more than every other OECD country apart
0:10:24 > 0:10:28from Switzerland and takes up over 40% of the average wage and yet it's
0:10:28 > 0:10:31hardly mentioned in his green paper.
0:10:31 > 0:10:34This is the way to liberate the talent of women,
0:10:34 > 0:10:36what's he going to do about it?
0:10:36 > 0:10:40In the green paper that the Secretary of State has brought
0:10:40 > 0:10:42forward there is mention of an overhaul of technical
0:10:42 > 0:10:46and vocational education.
0:10:46 > 0:10:52Can I say to him I think what this country needs is a cultural change,
0:10:52 > 0:10:54a shift to valuing technical and vocational education and skills
0:10:54 > 0:10:56education as highly as it does academic education?
0:10:56 > 0:11:00And until that changes, the Secretary of State will not
0:11:00 > 0:11:03achieve what he wants, however much all of us want him to.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05The Prime Minister's strategy lacks concrete proposals for Wales,
0:11:05 > 0:11:08considering our ?5 billion of trade and good net surplus with the EU,
0:11:08 > 0:11:13Wales is set to suffer most at the pursuit of a brutal Brexit.
0:11:13 > 0:11:22Does the Minister accept that doing nothing to counter the loss
0:11:22 > 0:11:24of the EU convergence funding will serve only to exacerbate
0:11:24 > 0:11:26the already significant geographical wealth and earnings inequalities
0:11:26 > 0:11:27which characterise the British state?
0:11:27 > 0:11:33May I welcome this wide ranging discussion of Government
0:11:33 > 0:11:38policies at this time, even if the broad buffet of good
0:11:38 > 0:11:41things outlined will unleash a torrent of insatiable demands,
0:11:41 > 0:11:46not least from the Davos business leaders jetting back
0:11:46 > 0:11:49with their Government advisers to barge their way to
0:11:49 > 0:11:54the front of the table?
0:11:54 > 0:11:57So will my right honourable friend assure me that his agenda will be
0:11:57 > 0:11:58set by entrepreneurs?
0:11:58 > 0:12:00Greg Clark assured him there would be, as he put it,
0:12:00 > 0:12:02"no cosy clubs for the incumbents".
0:12:02 > 0:12:08Where does the crucial role of free markets sit in the strategy?
0:12:08 > 0:12:18It runs through every page of the strategy, Mr Deputy Speaker.
0:12:23 > 0:12:23Laughter
0:12:23 > 0:12:24Laughter at
0:12:24 > 0:12:24Laughter at the
0:12:24 > 0:12:24Laughter at the diplomatic
0:12:24 > 0:12:26Laughter at the diplomatic reply.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29At the start of the day, the writs were moved for two
0:12:29 > 0:12:33by-elections following the departure of two Labour MPs.
0:12:33 > 0:12:37I beg to move that, Mr Speaker, to issue his warrant to the clerk
0:12:37 > 0:12:40of the crown to make out a new writ for the electing other
0:12:40 > 0:12:42member to serve in this present Parliament...
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Both elections will be held on the 23rd February.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47One is to replace the Jamie Reed, who represented Copeland -
0:12:47 > 0:12:49he's taken a job at Sellafield Nuclear Power Plant.
0:12:49 > 0:12:51The other replaces Stoke-on-Trent Central's Tristram Hunt,
0:12:51 > 0:12:55who is becoming the director of London's Victoria
0:12:55 > 0:12:57and Albert Museum.
0:12:57 > 0:12:59Now, moves which would allow local councils in England to keep
0:12:59 > 0:13:02all the proceeds from business rates raised in their area have
0:13:02 > 0:13:04had their first main debate in the Commons.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08The local government Finance Bill will also enable councillors to vary
0:13:08 > 0:13:10the level of business rates.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12Ministers say the move would encourage local
0:13:12 > 0:13:15authorities to boost business, increasing the income from local
0:13:15 > 0:13:18taxes that can be spent in the area.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20I am often told that local authorities lack
0:13:20 > 0:13:25meaningful incentives to grow their local economies.
0:13:25 > 0:13:28They tell me the system is overcentralised, that residents
0:13:28 > 0:13:32see no connection between the level of local taxation and the level
0:13:32 > 0:13:36of services they receive, that the proceeds of local growth
0:13:36 > 0:13:41disappear into national coffers, forcing councils to go cap in hand
0:13:41 > 0:13:44asking Whitehall for funding.
0:13:44 > 0:13:48Mr Deputy Speaker, that is not good enough.
0:13:48 > 0:13:53Local authorities, local businesses and local communities deserve
0:13:53 > 0:13:57a better deal and this Bill will provide it.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00It could exacerbate the social care crisis and leave council taxpayers
0:14:00 > 0:14:05having to foot even more of the bill for local services.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08Badly introduced, it could deepen regional inequality and increase
0:14:08 > 0:14:13the divisions between those areas with a large business
0:14:13 > 0:14:17community and those with more entrenched barriers to growth.
0:14:17 > 0:14:20We support the principle of a 100% business rate retention,
0:14:20 > 0:14:23but it needs to be accompanied by a redistribution formula,
0:14:23 > 0:14:26which redresses the divide between those councils that do have
0:14:26 > 0:14:31sizeable business rates income already and those that don't.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34The Shadow Local Government Minister, Gareth Thomas.
0:14:36 > 0:14:37You're watching Monday In Parliament.
0:14:37 > 0:14:38Our top story...
0:14:38 > 0:14:40The Defence Secretary says he has full confidence
0:14:40 > 0:14:43in the Trident nuclear deterrent, but has refused to give any details
0:14:43 > 0:14:46on press reports suggesting a missile went off-course
0:14:46 > 0:14:49during a test last June.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56Now, last week Surrey County Council announced it would be holding
0:14:56 > 0:14:59a referendum to find out whether voters would approve a big
0:14:59 > 0:15:02rise in council tax to pay for better social care.
0:15:02 > 0:15:05The Council said care was in crisis, a message that's been echoed
0:15:05 > 0:15:07elsewhere in the country.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10MPs on the Communities and Local Government Committee heard
0:15:10 > 0:15:14the views of three people who use adult social care services.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19The main worry I think comes from not that even that my quality
0:15:19 > 0:15:24of life would have improved but that if my condition gets worse,
0:15:24 > 0:15:27and I don't know what's going to happen in the future,
0:15:27 > 0:15:30that the care won't increase to even keep, to even be dignified, really.
0:15:30 > 0:15:35I know of local authorities now that say at night-time if you need
0:15:35 > 0:15:44assistance going to the toilet it's now legally acceptable for them
0:15:44 > 0:15:46to just say use incontinence pads, even if you're not incontinent,
0:15:46 > 0:15:49because you can't have a night-time carer.
0:15:49 > 0:15:54Now, I don't need that fortunately at the moment but that is a fear
0:15:54 > 0:15:56for me that if one day I needed that support,
0:15:56 > 0:15:58would it actually be provided?
0:15:58 > 0:16:03I have been in the process of recently having health
0:16:03 > 0:16:08professionals and social care professionals making
0:16:08 > 0:16:12a recommendation and the panel who have never met me making
0:16:12 > 0:16:16a decision around providing something that's ?500 cheaper
0:16:16 > 0:16:21and I have now got to trial a product that isn't going to work
0:16:21 > 0:16:25and is wasting my time and the professionals' time just
0:16:25 > 0:16:26to please the panel.
0:16:26 > 0:16:30It's all about, for me, it has all been a game
0:16:30 > 0:16:32of aligning what you need
0:16:32 > 0:16:35with the people that can often support you and sometimes your voice
0:16:35 > 0:16:38gets lost within that.
0:16:38 > 0:16:42I think people who enter this profession of providing care do
0:16:42 > 0:16:47so with a sense of vocation and a sense of service and a desire
0:16:47 > 0:16:51to want to make a difference and to change things and to be
0:16:51 > 0:16:57of service and I happen to be mindful of not taking
0:16:57 > 0:17:03that for granted and certainly not abusing it but it is a messy,
0:17:03 > 0:17:06it's a messy place to go, this.
0:17:06 > 0:17:08I get six hours a week for socialisation,
0:17:08 > 0:17:11whatever that means.
0:17:11 > 0:17:16That includes, has to include my food shopping,
0:17:16 > 0:17:18my hospital appointments, which average one a week,
0:17:18 > 0:17:22going to church and if I want to go swimming, because none of those
0:17:22 > 0:17:24things can be separately, you know, they don't get covered otherwise.
0:17:24 > 0:17:27So by the time you've done that, there is no socialisation left.
0:17:27 > 0:17:31There's certainly no flexibility or, you know if a friend rings up
0:17:31 > 0:17:33and says "do you want to go here?"
0:17:33 > 0:17:36It's "oh sorry, I've used by hours."
0:17:36 > 0:17:41So, for me, I think it's, you know, you try and get on and you try
0:17:41 > 0:17:46and make most of the situation and I do find myself having make
0:17:46 > 0:17:54choices sometimes so there will be times and I think I want to go here,
0:17:54 > 0:17:57I won't have a shower or I won't cook a meal
0:17:57 > 0:18:00that day with my PA, I'll use the time to do
0:18:00 > 0:18:02the socialisation aspect of it because otherwise you become
0:18:02 > 0:18:04extremely isolated and that's quite depressing or, you know,
0:18:04 > 0:18:07it's hard not to feel like I'm a 31-year-old and my friends that
0:18:07 > 0:18:10were in university with me are all out doing all these things
0:18:10 > 0:18:14and actually my life looks extremely different to theirs.
0:18:14 > 0:18:18I live in my own home, my own home is becoming more
0:18:18 > 0:18:20like an institution.
0:18:20 > 0:18:26I have support and there are times and I feel really isolated
0:18:26 > 0:18:29and I need that additional support but it's not available and for me
0:18:29 > 0:18:32it has been really detrimental and it has really had a massive impact
0:18:32 > 0:18:37on my mental ill-health.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40It's something that I would think that lots of people with care
0:18:40 > 0:18:43and support needs often struggle with, so, you know, the practical
0:18:43 > 0:18:47stuff is amazing, you know, I'm grateful to live in a country
0:18:47 > 0:18:50where we do have that system, but sometimes I just feel like I'm
0:18:50 > 0:18:54a product of a system that is just functional, so I'm just like dress,
0:18:54 > 0:18:57wash, eat, nothing about well-being, nothing about relationships
0:18:57 > 0:19:03and the hardest thing is being somebody that has hopes
0:19:03 > 0:19:07and dreams and aspirations and you have to sometimes say
0:19:07 > 0:19:12to yourself and people around you, that's not possible.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15Now, there have been further calls for increased sex and relationships
0:19:15 > 0:19:17education in schools to tackle online grooming for child abuse.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20But at Home Office Questions, ministers insisted the resources
0:19:20 > 0:19:24for staying safe online were available and schools
0:19:24 > 0:19:25were already taking action.
0:19:25 > 0:19:29Can I urge the House that people recommend to their constituents that
0:19:29 > 0:19:32a process of contributing to keeping their own children safe
0:19:32 > 0:19:35is to take time out to look at the Think You Know campaign
0:19:35 > 0:19:38on the National Crime Agency because we all, I as a parent,
0:19:38 > 0:19:41have a role in making sure my children know
0:19:41 > 0:19:45what's safe online.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48But actually, don't children need to be educated about how to help
0:19:48 > 0:19:51themselves stay safe online and wouldn't it be the case
0:19:51 > 0:19:55if we had compulsory sex and relationship education that
0:19:55 > 0:19:58every school could make sure that every child knew
0:19:58 > 0:19:59how to be safe online?
0:19:59 > 0:20:04Can I ask the Honourable Lady to go onto the website
0:20:04 > 0:20:06of the National Crime Agency and look at the Think
0:20:06 > 0:20:07You Know campaign.
0:20:07 > 0:20:13It is tailor-made for children to go through the tutorial online
0:20:13 > 0:20:15and it's broken down by age, so my young children
0:20:15 > 0:20:19have an appropriate curriculum to look at and it makes
0:20:19 > 0:20:22a real difference.
0:20:22 > 0:20:24There's even one for her so she could follow it
0:20:24 > 0:20:27and understand how she can be safe online and make sure
0:20:27 > 0:20:28children are as well.
0:20:28 > 0:20:31The Minister is being far too glib on this.
0:20:31 > 0:20:33All the research shows the best intermediary for teaching children
0:20:33 > 0:20:35is someone they trust in the school.
0:20:35 > 0:20:40That is the truth and online work isn't actually very effective.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44Isn't it the truth that bullying, exploitation, is rampant and isn't
0:20:44 > 0:20:48it about time we stopped making excuses and took on the Googles
0:20:48 > 0:20:51and the people who allow this to be transmitted?
0:20:51 > 0:20:54The honourable gentleman misses the point.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58We are taking on the Googles and the big internet companies
0:20:58 > 0:21:03and also if he spends time in the schools, in the primary
0:21:03 > 0:21:06school when my children go to, they are given classes on how
0:21:06 > 0:21:10to stay safe online.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13This is not done in a silo way, it's not just a website,
0:21:13 > 0:21:16it's a website, it's teachers, its parents, everyone has a role
0:21:16 > 0:21:18in it and that is being delivered.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21The challenge we have in the world of the internet is keeping pace
0:21:21 > 0:21:23with the huge numbers of referrals we get every month from
0:21:23 > 0:21:26international paedophiles who abuse the internet to exploit our children
0:21:26 > 0:21:29and take advantage of the very latest technology, to make
0:21:29 > 0:21:31sure our law enforcement agencies are having to constantly go
0:21:31 > 0:21:33the extra mile to catch them.
0:21:33 > 0:21:39Mr Speaker, we have had a dreadful local case where an international
0:21:39 > 0:21:41paedophile ring such as the one the Minister was mentioning
0:21:41 > 0:21:44infiltrated a chat room aimed at 9-year-olds with really
0:21:44 > 0:21:45dreadful consequences for those children.
0:21:45 > 0:21:51Could the Minister tell us what investment the government
0:21:51 > 0:21:53is making to help the police and other law enforcement
0:21:53 > 0:21:57agencies deal with and stamp out this sort of abuse?
0:21:57 > 0:22:00I'm grateful to my honourable friend, the National Crime Agency's
0:22:00 > 0:22:04child exploitation and online protection command receives an extra
0:22:04 > 0:22:09?10 million this year and in November 2015,
0:22:09 > 0:22:13the NCA joined up with GCHQ in a joint operation to make sure
0:22:13 > 0:22:18that we tackle some of the most complicated crimes online.
0:22:18 > 0:22:22Labour's Rupa Huq raised the immigration status of EU
0:22:22 > 0:22:28nationals in the UK seeking some certainty following the Brexit vote.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30People like Mrs Fabio La Paras, Spanish by birth but married
0:22:30 > 0:22:34and resident in Acton for decades, now dismayed at having been rejected
0:22:34 > 0:22:39because they cannot prove either five years continuous service
0:22:39 > 0:22:42with the same employer or having paid in for
0:22:43 > 0:22:44private health insurance.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47Can the Home Secretary revisit these rigid requirements that penalised EU
0:22:47 > 0:22:52nationals like her who have been homemakers or students,
0:22:52 > 0:22:54on short term contracta or self-employed and end
0:22:54 > 0:22:56this bureaucratic nightmare?
0:22:56 > 0:23:00There is no penalising of people like the lady who the Honourable
0:23:00 > 0:23:03Lady was referring to.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07We continue to value the important contribution that EU nationals make
0:23:07 > 0:23:11to this country and I would repeat and I would urge the honourable lady
0:23:11 > 0:23:13to follow the advice I previously set out,
0:23:13 > 0:23:16which is to reassure constituents like the one she referred to that
0:23:16 > 0:23:21in fact we are doing our best to ensure that their future will be
0:23:21 > 0:23:24secure and as the Prime Minister says, it will be an early
0:23:24 > 0:23:25priority to do so.
0:23:25 > 0:23:27The Home Secretary Amber Rudd replying there.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30Now, returning to social care, Labour peers have called
0:23:30 > 0:23:32on ministers to reverse cuts
0:23:32 > 0:23:33in funding, which they say have had
0:23:33 > 0:23:36a knock-on effect on the whole of the National Health
0:23:36 > 0:23:37Service in England.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40Raising the matter at Question Time in the Lords, Lady McDonagh said
0:23:40 > 0:23:44the government had cut the social care budget by nearly ?2 billion.
0:23:44 > 0:23:49It is the case that the government have cut ?1.8 billion to social
0:23:49 > 0:23:52care during this period, which has led to the escalation
0:23:52 > 0:23:58of the ?2.5 billion in NHS debt.
0:23:58 > 0:24:01I don't know whether it's through incompetence or ideology
0:24:01 > 0:24:05but the government has set about providing us with the most
0:24:05 > 0:24:08expensive and the worst system of care for the elderly
0:24:08 > 0:24:10in the Western world.
0:24:10 > 0:24:12Can I ask the noble Lord the minister whether he would use
0:24:12 > 0:24:18all his powers of persuasion to do what the Chancellor wanted to do
0:24:18 > 0:24:21last year and persuade the Prime Minister to put more money
0:24:21 > 0:24:24into local authorities for social care?
0:24:24 > 0:24:28It will save lives and money.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31The Minister said he accepted there were challenges still there.
0:24:31 > 0:24:32There are a million more over 65-year-olds
0:24:33 > 0:24:37than there were in 2010.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40The social care is under a lot of pressure, of course it is,
0:24:40 > 0:24:42which is why in the Autumn Statement additional money was
0:24:42 > 0:24:43outlined for social care.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46There is ?900 million extra over the next couple of years
0:24:46 > 0:24:49and the precept is rising faster than it was previously
0:24:49 > 0:24:51and we have the Better Care fund.
0:24:51 > 0:24:54So there is money going in, but I accept the fact
0:24:54 > 0:24:55that there is pressure on the system.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58The Minister said he accepted there were challenges still there.
0:24:58 > 0:25:00And that's all from me for now.
0:25:00 > 0:25:02Kristina Cooper's here for the rest of the week but from me,
0:25:03 > 0:25:07Joanna Shinn, goodbye.