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:00:23. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to the programme. Coming up The government's

:00:25. > :00:26.challenged over its plans to delay its proposals

:00:27. > :00:29.Should children be able to take their books

:00:30. > :00:34.And with Parliament due to come to an end this week so MPs can hit

:00:35. > :00:37.a Lords minister is gearing up for a busy time.

:00:38. > :00:42.When all the MPs disappear to try and get re-elected, it is the Lords

:00:43. > :00:48.The Environment Secretary, says the Government will publish

:00:49. > :00:53.draft plans to tackle air pollution on 30th June,

:00:54. > :00:57.The courts had given ministers until 4pm to set out measures

:00:58. > :01:04.to combat illegal levels of nitrogen dioxide pollution.

:01:05. > :01:06.On Friday the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

:01:07. > :01:08.lodged an application with the High Court

:01:09. > :01:10.to postpone publication of its draft clean air plan

:01:11. > :01:16.It argued the move was necessary to comply with

:01:17. > :01:18.election "purdah" rules limiting government announcements

:01:19. > :01:24.with political implications during the election period.

:01:25. > :01:27.Answering an urgent question in the Commons,

:01:28. > :01:29.the Environment Secretary said significant progress

:01:30. > :01:38.on air quality had been made since 2010, but...

:01:39. > :01:40.Due to the failure of Euro vehicle

:01:41. > :01:42.emissions standards to deliver the expected improvements in air

:01:43. > :01:46.quality, the UK is among 17 European countries, including France and

:01:47. > :01:49.Germany, who are not yet meeting EU emissions targets for nitrogen

:01:50. > :01:53.dioxide in parts of some of our towns and cities.

:01:54. > :01:56.We are taking strong action to remedy that.

:01:57. > :02:00.My department, since last November, has

:02:01. > :02:03.been working jointly with the Department for Transport to update

:02:04. > :02:06.the government's national air quality plan for nitrogen dioxide.

:02:07. > :02:09.We have updated the analytical base for the plan to reflect new

:02:10. > :02:12.evidence, following the VW scandal, and the failure of the EU regulatory

:02:13. > :02:18.regime to deliver the improvements expected on emissions. The plan

:02:19. > :02:23.adapts to these new circumstances by setting out a framework for action.

:02:24. > :02:25.But the new plan had been postponed

:02:26. > :02:32.in line with longstanding guidance and convention.

:02:33. > :02:40.The propriety and ethics team in Cabinet Office had told us that it

:02:41. > :02:43.would not be appropriate to launch the consultation and publish the air

:02:44. > :02:47.So the government has therefore applied

:02:48. > :02:50.to the High Court for a short extension of the deadline, to

:02:51. > :02:53.publishing the National air quality plan for nitrogen dioxide. So that

:02:54. > :02:58.the government can comply with pre-election propriety rules. So

:02:59. > :03:03.the government is seeking to publish a draft plan by the 30th of June and

:03:04. > :03:10.live in areas with illegal air pollution.

:03:11. > :03:13.2000 schools and nurseries are close to roads with

:03:14. > :03:16.damaging levels of fumes and NHS estimates are that poor air quality

:03:17. > :03:22.contributes to 40,000 premature deaths every year.

:03:23. > :03:29.The situation has gone from bad to worse on this government's watch.

:03:30. > :03:32.And it has now escalated into what the Defra committee calls

:03:33. > :03:33.a public health emergency.

:03:34. > :03:36.It is unacceptable to hide behind the election to delay

:03:37. > :03:40.Cabinet Office rules are clear that purdah is not

:03:41. > :03:50.an excuse to delay acting on vital public health matters.

:03:51. > :03:53.Once the UK leaves the EU, the Commission are no longer able to

:03:54. > :03:57.levy fines on the UK Government for failing to act with due speed on the

:03:58. > :03:59.premature deaths of 40,000 people a year, caused by toxic air.

:04:00. > :04:01.Who does the government expect will be

:04:02. > :04:03.levying fines, initiating cases against the government

:04:04. > :04:16.I agree with the honourable gentleman again that this is a very

:04:17. > :04:18.significant and serious issue, and I find it rather distasteful

:04:19. > :04:21.that he would suggest the only reason we might be motivated

:04:22. > :04:24.as a government to deal with this is because of the threat of EU fines.

:04:25. > :04:26.We absolutely intend to deal with the issues,

:04:27. > :04:29.to make sure that the air is cleaner for the people

:04:30. > :04:32.of our country and to ensure that we are the generation that

:04:33. > :04:35.leaves our environment in a better state than we found it.

:04:36. > :04:38.Can I encourage her to look at the article in this week's

:04:39. > :04:47.British Medical Journal which clearly sets out the growing

:04:48. > :04:49.evidence to the benefits of active commuting,

:04:50. > :04:51.particularly travelling by bicycle and to encourage us

:04:52. > :04:55.She has been dragged to the House to make this statement.

:04:56. > :04:57.She has been putting off major decisions right

:04:58. > :05:00.across the future of her department on all those important issues.

:05:01. > :05:02.Can I put the record straight, just on the fact,

:05:03. > :05:04.my constituents won't understand, where children are being poisoned

:05:05. > :05:11.now, where pregnant women are being poisoned, now,

:05:12. > :05:14.pedestrians and cyclists are being poisoned and she is bringing some

:05:15. > :05:17.obscure mention about purdah to stop us doing something about it.

:05:18. > :05:25.Can I remind her that it is two years since we knew that Volkswagen

:05:26. > :05:28.had the scandal which broke and she has been here for two years

:05:29. > :05:40.What this government did was to lead the EU in sorting out emissions

:05:41. > :05:46.calculations to make sure that they were accurate, so, a few years ago,

:05:47. > :05:48.the EU assessment and the VW cheating and the wrong-headed

:05:49. > :05:53.emissions assessments were just that, they were wrong. Subsequently,

:05:54. > :05:56.led by this government, we have pressed for better calculations and

:05:57. > :06:01.assessments. We have been working extremely hard to get our plans

:06:02. > :06:05.ready, and this is a very short the peril to deal with propriety rules.

:06:06. > :06:06.We will be publishing our plan as soon as possible after the general

:06:07. > :06:07.election. MPs have approved legislation that

:06:08. > :06:15.allows for fresh Assembly elections in Northern Ireland to be deferred

:06:16. > :06:18.until the end of June. The Government has said it hopes

:06:19. > :06:21.the move will allow an agreement to be reached on the creation

:06:22. > :06:23.of a new power-sharing Executive following the latest

:06:24. > :06:26.Assembly election in March. Talks on setting up a body

:06:27. > :06:29.stalled before Easter. avoiding the need for direct

:06:30. > :06:37.rule or fresh elections. The Northern Ireland Secretary said

:06:38. > :06:46.talks were continuing. The restoration of devolved

:06:47. > :06:48.government remains achievable This will require more time and more

:06:49. > :06:53.focused engagement by the parties on the critical issues that remain,

:06:54. > :06:56.building on the discussions over the The bill before this house today

:06:57. > :07:02.would provide the space and the opportunities

:07:03. > :07:08.for the parties to do just that. We will remove the present legal

:07:09. > :07:14.barriers so that the Assembly can meet and an Executive can be formed

:07:15. > :07:17.at any point from Royal assent to the 29th of June, three weeks

:07:18. > :07:22.after the general election. We recognise that there will be

:07:23. > :07:25.focus on the general election. That is why the bill provides

:07:26. > :07:29.parties with the scope and space to continue discussions to resolve

:07:30. > :07:31.the outstanding issues while providing a period

:07:32. > :07:35.of reflection for the new government if a deal still does

:07:36. > :07:40.not prove possible. To be absolutely clear about this,

:07:41. > :07:44.is the Secretary of State stating to the House today from the dispatch

:07:45. > :07:51.box that the choice is very clear, and by putting in place the points

:07:52. > :07:54.he has made about appropriations, the groundwork has been laid

:07:55. > :08:00.for direct rule if that is required? I don't want in any way to prejudge

:08:01. > :08:05.the outcome of the coming weeks. I earnestly hope and believe

:08:06. > :08:08.and want to see devolved government That is what is profoundly

:08:09. > :08:15.in the best interests of Northern Ireland,

:08:16. > :08:19.seeing that local decision making. I think the strong message should

:08:20. > :08:23.come across this House of wanting to see that into position

:08:24. > :08:34.at the earliest The Shadow Northern Ireland

:08:35. > :08:41.Secretary backed legislation and called for an inquiry into the

:08:42. > :08:46.renewable energy scheme that brought the Zeca div down. -- the Zeca div

:08:47. > :08:50.down. -- the executive. We need to see parties trust

:08:51. > :08:53.each other and move away I say this to Sinn Fein

:08:54. > :08:56.clearly from this box, drop your demand for the DUP

:08:57. > :08:59.to stand aside while She has given assurances

:09:00. > :09:02.that she will fully cooperate with the inquiry,

:09:03. > :09:04.she will accept its outcomes and she won't hinder

:09:05. > :09:06.its progress in any way. That would be a huge step

:09:07. > :09:09.in the direction of building the trust and confidence that

:09:10. > :09:21.allowed sworn enemies to govern in People feel that they need and

:09:22. > :09:25.deserve answers. I have met many unionists who are horrified by the

:09:26. > :09:30.events around that situation. I will leave it at that. Clouds of

:09:31. > :09:35.confusion and poking each other in the IE only makes things worse. I

:09:36. > :09:39.say to the Secretary of State that it is vital that no stone is left

:09:40. > :09:45.unturned until devolution is restored in Northern Ireland. For me

:09:46. > :09:49.as a supporter of the visa process going forward, I am left now with a

:09:50. > :09:56.very serious doubt in my mind about whether Sinn Fein really want to be

:09:57. > :10:00.in government at all. And I am left with a very serious doubt in my mind

:10:01. > :10:06.about the work ability of the mandatory coalition model, as a

:10:07. > :10:12.basis for government, giving, as it does, Madam Deputy Speaker, Sinn

:10:13. > :10:18.Fein, a veto over the formation of government. Sinn Fein MPs don't take

:10:19. > :10:21.their seats at Westminster so could not reply to that but another

:10:22. > :10:26.unionist thought it was time to find a new way of doing things. We need

:10:27. > :10:29.to find another way of working together whether it is a voluntary

:10:30. > :10:33.coalition, if we have that, we have to make sure that we look after the

:10:34. > :10:39.minorities, so it is not without difficulties. We could even have a

:10:40. > :10:43.minority government if the two major parties cannot agree. We need to sit

:10:44. > :10:49.down, all of us, and find a way forward, because I know every single

:10:50. > :10:52.person sitting here wants solutions and can work together and yet, one

:10:53. > :10:55.party that isn't here, doesn't make it easy but it doesn't mean the

:10:56. > :10:58.other parties here are not at fault, too.

:10:59. > :11:00.Being able to bring English Literature books

:11:01. > :11:03.into the exam room would make testing harder, not easier,

:11:04. > :11:04.a Labour MP has told the Education Minister.

:11:05. > :11:10.Following a petition signed by more than 110,000 people,

:11:11. > :11:14.the government was taken to task on closed book examinations.

:11:15. > :11:17.Do teenagers really need to be able to recite the lines

:11:18. > :11:24.The Chair of the Petitions Committee is herself a former English teacher.

:11:25. > :11:27.I must confess when I saw this petition I had mixed feelings.

:11:28. > :11:29.English is my subject, it is what I was most

:11:30. > :11:32.interested in at school, I read English at university.

:11:33. > :11:39.And being of the generation I am my head is stuffed full

:11:40. > :11:44.of quotations from Shakespeare to Keats to DH Lawrence.

:11:45. > :11:47.My colleagues here know that my party piece around this time

:11:48. > :11:51.of year is to recite to them the opening of the general prologue

:11:52. > :11:55.to the Canterbury Tales in middle English, which I won't inflict

:11:56. > :12:01.The former chief regulator said in a blog, "Assessment

:12:02. > :12:05.is about learning and understanding, not memory."

:12:06. > :12:09.Now, I would be convinced by that were in not for one thing.

:12:10. > :12:13.In literature the exact words are important.

:12:14. > :12:17.A great writer chooses words with precision and an approximation

:12:18. > :12:21.of what they have said need not have the same force or convey

:12:22. > :12:29.I think the minister is perhaps old enough like me to perhaps

:12:30. > :12:33.remember the old Morecambe and Wise sketch where Shakespeare is writing

:12:34. > :12:36.rubbish and the milkman keeps coming in and helping him.

:12:37. > :12:41.So Shakespeare writes, "It's very cold, I said to Yorkie."

:12:42. > :12:43.And the milkman suggests how about, "Now is the winter

:12:44. > :12:51.I also think that open book exams can actually ask more testing

:12:52. > :12:55.questions and can do what the government says it wants

:12:56. > :12:59.to do, that is ensure that the brightest pupils are able

:13:00. > :13:10.So there is in fact I think a case for both kinds of examination.

:13:11. > :13:14.The government should think very seriously about part, at least,

:13:15. > :13:18.of English literature exams in future being done

:13:19. > :13:28.There is a popular quote that says life depends on science,

:13:29. > :13:33.Well, English literature is not an exact science and it makes no

:13:34. > :13:36.sense to test it in a way which basically amounts

:13:37. > :13:41.Many universities do not examine their literature students

:13:42. > :13:44.in this way because they know that rote learning is not a sign

:13:45. > :13:50.It is robust analysis and understanding that counts

:13:51. > :13:54.and what undergraduates are rightly tested on, so why on earth do we

:13:55. > :14:00.The Schools Minister, Nick Gibb, said there was no expectation that

:14:01. > :14:05.students would have to memorise large amounts of text.

:14:06. > :14:07.I'd like to reassure the honourable member,

:14:08. > :14:12.all honourable members of this chamber, that this is not the case.

:14:13. > :14:15.Pupils do not have to reproduce word for word what they have read

:14:16. > :14:23.The examination is not about testing pupils' ability to recall portions

:14:24. > :14:27.of the text that they have read, but it is a test of how well

:14:28. > :14:31.they understand and can interpret the literature

:14:32. > :14:35.And the minister said there were circumstances

:14:36. > :14:37.where having a text to hand might encourage a student

:14:38. > :14:43.If pupils have a good understanding of the text prior to the assessment,

:14:44. > :14:47.there is a risk that they might spend significant portions

:14:48. > :14:50.of the exam searching for references in the mistaken belief that this

:14:51. > :14:57.Again unless the text is provided, the mark schemes for the reformed

:14:58. > :15:00.qualifications do not expect extensive quotes from memory.

:15:01. > :15:12.You're watching Monday in Parliament with me Alicia McCarthy.

:15:13. > :15:14.The Communities Secretary has warned Labour not to play politics

:15:15. > :15:21.The exchange was part of an often bad tempered question time

:15:22. > :15:24.in the Commons which also saw the Conservatives accused of being

:15:25. > :15:29.The scale of rough sleeping homelessness in Britain

:15:30. > :15:36.And in a country as decent and as well off as ours

:15:37. > :15:41.But the level has more than doubled since 2010,

:15:42. > :15:44.directly as a result of the decisions that Conservative

:15:45. > :15:50.Mr Speaker, there are very few simple rules

:15:51. > :15:55.With a Labour government homelessness falls.

:15:56. > :16:04.And on June the 8th people will ask themselves,

:16:05. > :16:10.I know the honourable gentleman, he cares deeply about this issue,

:16:11. > :16:13.as we do on this side of the House and he shouldn't play

:16:14. > :16:18.This, Mr Speaker, is a very serious issue that unites

:16:19. > :16:24.We all want to see an end to rough sleeping, but the honourable

:16:25. > :16:27.gentleman knows as well as I do that the causes of rough

:16:28. > :16:28.sleeping are complex, they are not just economic.

:16:29. > :16:30.There are mental health problems, there are addiction

:16:31. > :16:33.problems and the honourable gentleman knows that.

:16:34. > :16:42.And we do have lessons to learn from abroad,

:16:43. > :16:45.but I am sure if he works with us, if we work together,

:16:46. > :16:48.we can all unite in helping rough sleepers for good.

:16:49. > :16:50.Then Labour questioned the Government's record on cracking

:16:51. > :16:52.If he actually cares about private tenants,

:16:53. > :16:55.why is this minister blocking borough wide, private

:16:56. > :17:02.Is his party still the slum landlords' friend?

:17:03. > :17:10.Mr Speaker, the suggestion that members on this side of the House

:17:11. > :17:13.don't care about these issues is as ridiculous as it is insulting.

:17:14. > :17:17.The work of labour councils that the Shadow Minister refers

:17:18. > :17:21.to is being funded by funding from this government.

:17:22. > :17:24.He is factually wrong to suggest that this government is blocking

:17:25. > :17:31.I can also point out to him the many reforms we are introducing

:17:32. > :17:33.like banning letting agent fees, assisting client management

:17:34. > :17:35.protection, reforms that when the Shadow Housing Minister

:17:36. > :17:40.was running this department were not in place.

:17:41. > :17:43.This is expected to be the last week that Parliament will sit before

:17:44. > :17:49.From next week politicians will be in full on campaigning mode.

:17:50. > :17:52.The election on June the 8th caught Westminster watchers by surprise

:17:53. > :17:55.when it was announced by Theresa May last week and comes as the UK gears

:17:56. > :18:05.Can he tell us what assessment the government has made

:18:06. > :18:07.about the amount of Parliamentary time that will be lost thanks

:18:08. > :18:10.to having a general election and whether that can be added

:18:11. > :18:12.in so there is adequate Parliamentary scrutiny

:18:13. > :18:16.of the negotiations, given that the limit

:18:17. > :18:19.for negotiations is two years and we are going to lose

:18:20. > :18:24.I can assure the noble Baroness and all your noble lordships

:18:25. > :18:28.that there will be ample time I am sure for a debate about the matters

:18:29. > :18:33.before us, not just over the months to come after the general election,

:18:34. > :18:40.I am sure everyone is looking forward to it.

:18:41. > :18:43.As regards the actual time lost, let me just draw the noble

:18:44. > :18:45.Baroness's attention to the fact that my understanding is, my Lords,

:18:46. > :18:48.that the General Affairs Council will not adopt the commission's

:18:49. > :18:51.draft negotiating guidelines until May the 22nd at the earliest

:18:52. > :18:54.and therefore political negotiations would not begin before

:18:55. > :19:01.And as the commission has said, those negotiations will now begin

:19:02. > :19:04.after the general election on June the 8th.

:19:05. > :19:08.Isn't the deeper problem that the Eurocrats are much more

:19:09. > :19:12.interested in keeping their sinking project of European integration

:19:13. > :19:16.afloat because it pays them so well than they are in meeting the needs

:19:17. > :19:28.of the real people of Europe which are much the same as ours?

:19:29. > :19:33.Well, the noble lord has his own unique way of saying

:19:34. > :19:39.My lords, it is in all our interests on this side of the channel

:19:40. > :19:44.and right across Europe to ensure that the withdrawal negotiations

:19:45. > :19:47.are to our interests and to Europe's interests and to ensure

:19:48. > :19:51.that our exit is smooth and orderly and that we continue to trade

:19:52. > :19:54.with our European partners as we have done for

:19:55. > :20:00.I think that is the overriding intention and it is good to see that

:20:01. > :20:02.so many of our European partners are saying similar

:20:03. > :20:07.On the subject of making the best use of Parliamentary time wouldn't

:20:08. > :20:11.it be a good start after the general election if every party

:20:12. > :20:16.in this house accepted the results of the referendum?

:20:17. > :20:20.That will be a very good thing, my lords, and it would be a very

:20:21. > :20:25.good thing as the Prime Minister has said that this party on our side

:20:26. > :20:28.of the House will be searching for a clear approach to those

:20:29. > :20:32.negotiations to ensure that we get the very best deal for this country

:20:33. > :20:38.Would the noble lord Minister care to confirm as he had in the past

:20:39. > :20:41.that accepting the results of the referendum does

:20:42. > :20:47.not have to imply not scrutinising what comes after?

:20:48. > :20:50.I have absolutely said many times before, and I have enjoyed

:20:51. > :20:53.the debates we have had in this house, that clearly this place,

:20:54. > :20:55.this house and the other place will obviously have a considerable

:20:56. > :20:58.role to play as we leave the EU in scrutinising the government's

:20:59. > :21:01.proposals and the way ahead and indeed obviously

:21:02. > :21:04.in the significant pieces of legislation, not least

:21:05. > :21:08.the Great Repeal Bill that Parliament will be asked to pass.

:21:09. > :21:14.Now, rightly or wrongly gardening is often thought of as a pursuit

:21:15. > :21:17.to be taken up in later life, but in the Lords one children's

:21:18. > :21:19.campaigner thought it could have real benefits for youngsters too.

:21:20. > :21:25.TV presenter and Liberal Democrat Peer Lady Benjamin

:21:26. > :21:27.is an ambassador for the Royal Horticultural

:21:28. > :21:35.Numerous reports have shown that children as young as four

:21:36. > :21:39.are suffering from depression and anxiety and research proves that

:21:40. > :21:42.gardening is not only therapeutic for them,

:21:43. > :21:46.it helps them and gives them a sense of continuity,

:21:47. > :21:50.a responsibility and understanding of food production and helps them

:21:51. > :21:55.with subjects across the curriculum, even a career in horticulture.

:21:56. > :22:01.So will the government work with the RHS Schools Gardening Campaign

:22:02. > :22:04.to deliver gardening opportunities to schools across the country

:22:05. > :22:07.and urge Ofsted to take this provision into account

:22:08. > :22:12.Well, the noble lady is quite right about the therapeutic benefits

:22:13. > :22:19.I know that the RHS, to which I pay tribute

:22:20. > :22:22.to her ambassadorship, it does a great campaign

:22:23. > :22:25.in schools for this, their campaign has over 32,000

:22:26. > :22:31.schools and organisations, including 68% of primaries and 78%

:22:32. > :22:33.of secondaries engaged, reaching 6 million children.

:22:34. > :22:36.As far as Ofsted is concerned we don't want to load Ofsted up

:22:37. > :22:39.with too many specific, narrow requirements,

:22:40. > :22:41.but as part of school inspections, inspectors consider the breadth

:22:42. > :22:46.and depth of the school curriculum and its impact on its children

:22:47. > :22:48.and where the school's use of outdoor space is

:22:49. > :22:52.having a positive impact inspectors will know this.

:22:53. > :22:55.They also expect schools to provide rich and varied extracurricular

:22:56. > :23:04.activities which may well include gardening.

:23:05. > :23:08.Now that the Minister has had a windfall of time land in his diary

:23:09. > :23:12.over the next few weeks, can I ask him whether or not

:23:13. > :23:15.he will find time to dig through the weeds of the school

:23:16. > :23:17.funding formula to see whether or not head teachers

:23:18. > :23:19.would have enough resources for school gardens and then perhaps

:23:20. > :23:23.the seeds of doubt will sprout that the line he is about to give us

:23:24. > :23:25.about the school funding formula wears a little thin?

:23:26. > :23:30.I am most impressed with the noble lord's ability to weave into this

:23:31. > :23:33.question something that might appear to be so off-piste but he will know

:23:34. > :23:36.from his previous experience of having done my job that

:23:37. > :23:40.when all the MPs disappear to try and get re-elected it is the Lord's

:23:41. > :23:47.But I will attempt to come back to him with a more fulsome

:23:48. > :23:54.Finally, tributes have been paid to Sir David Beamish,

:23:55. > :23:57.the clerk of the Parliaments, the most senior official

:23:58. > :24:00.in the Lords, who's retiring after more than 40

:24:01. > :24:13.The leader of the Lords said much had changed over that time.

:24:14. > :24:19.He leaves a very different house from the one he arrived back in

:24:20. > :24:27.1974, not least because I wasn't born before then. He leaves a more

:24:28. > :24:30.modern and diverse institution. He leaves the House and its

:24:31. > :24:34.administration well equipped to handle the considerable challenges

:24:35. > :24:38.to be phased in the coming years. I lords, Parliament and politics has

:24:39. > :24:41.changed considerably in those years since David first step through the

:24:42. > :24:47.doors of Parliament as a new, young clerk. The noble lady Leader of the

:24:48. > :24:52.House has rightly paid tribute to the past he has played in

:24:53. > :24:56.overseeing, managing and also leading change. Perhaps he took the

:24:57. > :25:00.advice of his mastermind specialist subject Nancy Astor when she said,

:25:01. > :25:02.the main dangers in this life I'd those people who want to change

:25:03. > :25:06.everything or nothing. Lady Smith referring there

:25:07. > :25:09.to the fact that away from his job at Westminster Sir David won the BBC

:25:10. > :25:11.Quiz show mastermind in 1988 with Nancy Astor

:25:12. > :25:14.as his specialist subject. And after those triubes,

:25:15. > :25:17.Edward Ollard was appointed as the new clerk of the Parliaments

:25:18. > :25:24.taking over from Sir David Beamish. And that's it from me for now,

:25:25. > :25:27.but do join me at the same time tomorrow for another roundup

:25:28. > :25:30.of the best of the day here at Westminster as the government

:25:31. > :25:32.tries to get the last handful of bills passed before Parliament

:25:33. > :25:35.dissolves for the general election. But for now from me,

:25:36. > :25:40.Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.