:00:20. > :00:22.Hello and Welcome to Monday in Parliament, our look at the best
:00:23. > :00:24.of the day in the Commons and the Lords.
:00:25. > :00:32.Another day, another Prime Ministerial update on Brexit.
:00:33. > :00:34.I am ambitious and positive about Britain's future and these
:00:35. > :00:40.But the Labour leader isn't impressed.
:00:41. > :00:43.I'm now beginning to feel a very worrying sense of Groundhog Day
:00:44. > :00:48.Warnings for Britons who're returning home
:00:49. > :00:50.after fighting with IS terrorists in Iraq and Syria.
:00:51. > :00:53.We have to make sure that if they ever do return
:00:54. > :00:56.from Iraq and Syria, they do not pose a future threat to
:00:57. > :01:03.And a former Labour leader is fearful of what will happen
:01:04. > :01:07.Will the Minister join others in strongly urging the Bank
:01:08. > :01:08.of England not to increase interest rates,
:01:09. > :01:17.which would devastate families, businesses and the economy?
:01:18. > :01:20.But first - Theresa May has told MPs "important progress" on Brexit
:01:21. > :01:24.was made at the recent EU summit meeting.
:01:25. > :01:27.But the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said it sounded
:01:28. > :01:30.The Prime Minister must have been hopeful of at least a speeding-up
:01:31. > :01:33.in the Brexit talks process, when she sat down with negotiators
:01:34. > :01:41.and the European Council president Donald Tusk in Brussels last week.
:01:42. > :01:44.In the end, Mr Tusk said although not enough progress had
:01:45. > :01:47.been made to begin trade talks, reports of 'deadlock' may
:01:48. > :01:52.The leaders of the 27 remaining EU nations did agree to discuss
:01:53. > :01:56.arrangements on future talks amongst themselves.
:01:57. > :01:59.Reporting to MPs in the Commons, Theresa May said she had a "degree
:02:00. > :02:01.of confidence" of making enough progress by December
:02:02. > :02:10.So, Mr Speaker, I am ambitious and positive about Britain's future
:02:11. > :02:16.If we are going to take a step forward together,
:02:17. > :02:19.it must be on the basis of joint effort and endeavour
:02:20. > :02:23.But I believe that by approaching these negotiations in a constructive
:02:24. > :02:26.way, in a spirit of friendship and cooperation, we can
:02:27. > :02:28.and will deliver the best possible outcome that works
:02:29. > :02:35.And that belief was shared by other European leaders.
:02:36. > :02:38.Mr Speaker, I'm now beginning to have a very worrying sense
:02:39. > :02:48.Well, here we are again, after another round of talks
:02:49. > :02:50.and we're still no clearer as to when negotiations on Britain's
:02:51. > :02:55.future with our largest trading partner will actually begin!
:02:56. > :02:59.The Brexit Secretary still maintains no deal must be an option.
:03:00. > :03:02.While the Secretary of State for International Development says
:03:03. > :03:05.that leaving without a deal would not be the Armageddon that
:03:06. > :03:14.Does the Prime Minister believe the outcome that is not Armageddon
:03:15. > :03:21.might be setting the bar a bit too low?
:03:22. > :03:27.He talked about us making no real progress.
:03:28. > :03:33.Well, we haven't reached a final agreement but it's going to happen.
:03:34. > :03:36.I have a degree of confidence that we'll be able to get to the point
:03:37. > :03:40.After the Florence Speech, there is a new momentum,
:03:41. > :03:43.the Florence Speech was a step forward and it should be a positive
:03:44. > :03:46.response to the willingness to work in the interim period and there has
:03:47. > :03:51.Now, as it happens, those aren't my words, they are the words
:03:52. > :03:55.of Chancellor Merkel, the Taoiseach, the Swedish minister,
:03:56. > :03:57.the Italian Prime Minister, the Polish Prime Minister
:03:58. > :04:01.So, I can assure the right honourable gentleman that
:04:02. > :04:09.With the tenor of the Prime Minister's negotiations last week
:04:10. > :04:12.and her statement to the House today, is very much to seek
:04:13. > :04:14.a creative and pragmatic approach to a new deep
:04:15. > :04:17.Partnership is the keyword, is it not?
:04:18. > :04:21.Because no partnership is possible without dialogue within this house,
:04:22. > :04:23.with the European neighbours and fellow member states
:04:24. > :04:30.So, can the Prime Minister assure us that those talks will continue
:04:31. > :04:37.and that she will not listen to those, unfortunately
:04:38. > :04:40.on these benches sometimes, who want talks to stop and us to go
:04:41. > :04:45.I can assure my honourable friend that negotiations are continuing.
:04:46. > :04:48.As I said, we'll want to ensure we have worked to,
:04:49. > :04:55.it's what we're doing, we're working to get a good deal.
:04:56. > :05:00.Can I reassure my right honourable friend that anyone
:05:01. > :05:03.who is suggesting she is weak is seriously underestimating her.
:05:04. > :05:11.Seriously underestimating this party, which supports her.
:05:12. > :05:16.And underestimating the importance of the referendum mandate
:05:17. > :05:20.and the fact that she personally obtained more conservative votes
:05:21. > :05:25.than any other Conservative leader for 30 years.
:05:26. > :05:36.And will she stick to her guns, follow-through and have confidence
:05:37. > :05:41.that unfortunately the only people undermining her from this side,
:05:42. > :05:44.are people threatening to go into the lobbies with the Labour
:05:45. > :05:48.Would she clarify, is she saying today that if we haven't got
:05:49. > :05:50.a long-term trade deal agreed by this time next year,
:05:51. > :05:54.then there won't be any transition deal at all and Britain will end up
:05:55. > :06:05.An implementation period is about a period which is adjusting
:06:06. > :06:10.That's the basis on which I have put it forward to the European Union
:06:11. > :06:12.and that's the basis on which we will be negotiating
:06:13. > :06:16.Ernst and Young have warned that 83,000 city jobs
:06:17. > :06:18.could be lost if the UK loses its denominated
:06:19. > :06:21.Mr Speaker, businesses need certainty and we need to know
:06:22. > :06:24.the details of our future trading relationship and any transition deal
:06:25. > :06:28.It is absolutely critical that we stay in the single market
:06:29. > :06:39.Will the Prime Minister end Government's catastrophic
:06:40. > :06:41.ideological flirtation with a no deal scenario,
:06:42. > :06:43.take this off the table and do it today?
:06:44. > :06:45.I welcome my right honourable friend's update and indeed
:06:46. > :06:47.the tone and manner with which she is representing
:06:48. > :06:52.Whilst no deal is obviously better than a bad deal,
:06:53. > :06:55.does my right honourable friend agree that according to reports now,
:06:56. > :07:00.the German Foreign Ministry is preparing a draft trade accord
:07:01. > :07:03.and the Swedish national border trade is drawing up trade plans,
:07:04. > :07:05.there are real grounds for optimism that a mutually beneficial trade
:07:06. > :07:07.agreement can be struck which honours the instruction
:07:08. > :07:17.When is the Prime Minister going to face down the ideologues
:07:18. > :07:21.in her party, on her back benches and indeed in her own Cabinet,
:07:22. > :07:29.who from the safety of their stately homes and chateaux, their trust
:07:30. > :07:34.funds and their inherited wealth, clamour for a no deal
:07:35. > :07:40.that they know would do huge damage to the just about managing?
:07:41. > :07:46.It would leave the UK weaker and make her position in the world much
:07:47. > :07:50.smaller. When will she stand up for Remain raters and indeed the cam
:07:51. > :07:54.Ashleigh Crowter Sentinel-1A economic catastrophe that the
:07:55. > :08:02.Eurosceptic obsessives on her benches want to inflict upon us?
:08:03. > :08:07.Will be Prime Minister P the EU what is legally due to them, not a penny
:08:08. > :08:10.less, but not a penny more either? If the Government has got their tens
:08:11. > :08:14.of billions of pounds in its coffers, I'm not sure it has, then
:08:15. > :08:19.that money should be used to pay for things like social care and pay
:08:20. > :08:24.rises for public sector workers, not to give in the bottomless pit of the
:08:25. > :08:29.EU and into Jean-Claude Juncker's wine cellar, which I'm sure is
:08:30. > :08:32.rapidly diminishing as we speak, we can't let public sector workers in
:08:33. > :08:37.the eye if we give tens of billions of pounds to the EU that is not
:08:38. > :08:41.needed to be given to them legally. To she hear the Foreign Secretary's
:08:42. > :08:44.attempt to be helpful following European Council was monitored by
:08:45. > :08:48.quoting Shakespeare, including, there is a tide in the affairs of
:08:49. > :08:52.men which take up the flood, leapt on to fortune, from Julius Caesar,
:08:53. > :08:57.uttered by Brutus, who went on to start his litre and subsequently
:08:58. > :09:06.came to a sticky end himself? Isn't that a perfect metaphor for her
:09:07. > :09:09.predicament? I always welcome the literary and classical references
:09:10. > :09:12.that my right honourable friend brings to bear in his speeches and
:09:13. > :09:17.statements and he and I are both working to ensure we get the right
:09:18. > :09:20.deal for the UK when we leave. Theresa May.
:09:21. > :09:22.There's been a reaction in the Commons to the dramatic
:09:23. > :09:25.comment of a former Minister that the only way of dealing
:09:26. > :09:27.with British fighters for the so-called Islamic State
:09:28. > :09:29.terror group would be 'to kill them in almost every case'.
:09:30. > :09:32.Rory Stewart told BBC Radio the fighters for IS had moved away
:09:33. > :09:35.from any kind of British allegiance and were now a serious
:09:36. > :09:41.Around half of the 850 Britons thought to have joined IS, or Daesh,
:09:42. > :09:44.in Iraq and Syria are now believed to be back in the UK.
:09:45. > :09:54.Mr Stewart's remarks were raised at Defence question-time.
:09:55. > :09:57.One of the consequences of the success of the operations
:09:58. > :10:01.against Daesh has been the dispersal of many of their volunteers,
:10:02. > :10:06.including the United Kingdom citizens.
:10:07. > :10:08.Yesterday, the honourable member for Penrith and Border,
:10:09. > :10:10.the Minister of State for the Foreign Office
:10:11. > :10:14.and for Dyfed, said that as far as UK citizens were concerned
:10:15. > :10:17.to have served in crisis, the only thing to do,
:10:18. > :10:18.with one or two exceptions, was kill them.
:10:19. > :10:28.My honourable friend has made clear and I have made clear that those
:10:29. > :10:31.who have travelled to fight with Daesh in either Iraq or Syria,
:10:32. > :10:34.will have been committing a criminal offence.
:10:35. > :10:37.Daesh is a proscribed organisation and we have to make sure that
:10:38. > :10:41.if they ever do return from Iraq and Syria, they do not pose a future
:10:42. > :10:48.But they have made their choice, they have chosen to fight
:10:49. > :10:52.for an organisation that uses terror and the murder of civilians
:10:53. > :11:09.My constituent has just returned to Newark after fighting with the
:11:10. > :11:12.Turkish Peshmerga and helped him to defeat IS in Syria in northern Iraq.
:11:13. > :11:17.He's one of hundreds of British citizens who have done the same.
:11:18. > :11:21.Will the Defence Secretary note the contribution and bravery of these
:11:22. > :11:24.British citizens? But also strongly dissuade other young people from
:11:25. > :11:30.taking this extremely dangerous course in the future? I certainly
:11:31. > :11:36.know that and I would advise any British citizen intending for
:11:37. > :11:41.wanting to go to fight against Daesh, ISAs, the way to do that is
:11:42. > :11:44.to join our Armed Forces and get the professional training necessary and
:11:45. > :11:46.the respect for international humanitarian law that goes with it.
:11:47. > :11:48.Sir Michael Fallon. The top Civil Servant
:11:49. > :11:51.at the Ministry of Justice has said that security and stability
:11:52. > :11:53.in prisons is being affected Richard Heaton, Permanent Secretary
:11:54. > :11:58.at the MOJ, was giving evidence to a Public Accounts Committee
:11:59. > :12:00.inquiry into mental The Chief Executive of the Prison
:12:01. > :12:03.and Probation Service was challenged about cases of self
:12:04. > :12:05.harming and suicide. The level of staffing has been
:12:06. > :12:10.detrimental to the security and stability and good order
:12:11. > :12:14.in the prison, including the self confidence and ability to be
:12:15. > :12:20.resilient amongst offenders. So it was the case that offenders
:12:21. > :12:23.had a regular human contact with prison officers more often
:12:24. > :12:26.than has been the case So, bringing some prison officers
:12:27. > :12:30.back into the wing and establishing a proper one-to-one engagement
:12:31. > :12:31.with prison officers is incredibly important,
:12:32. > :12:34.partly because you can pick up on problems, partly
:12:35. > :12:36.because conversations can happen and the human space can operate
:12:37. > :12:39.whereby people don't feel alone. So, I mention staffing as my other
:12:40. > :12:44.one and as Michael says, as Mr Spurr says, erm,
:12:45. > :12:46.no, he hasn't said, so I'll say it, responding better
:12:47. > :12:52.to recommendations made by the ombudsman, by the inspector
:12:53. > :12:55.and by this committee and others, we haven't been as good as we should
:12:56. > :12:58.be on responding, keeping up-to-date with the recommendations against us,
:12:59. > :13:00.the ones we've accepted, so we're working very hard to make
:13:01. > :13:06.sure that when observations are made about failures,
:13:07. > :13:13.that they are acted on. Self harm incidents have increased
:13:14. > :13:16.by 73%, we've had the highest numbers on record taking her own
:13:17. > :13:21.life in prison, that's a pretty damning indictment of mental health
:13:22. > :13:32.within our prison system, especially when you consider 70% of those
:13:33. > :13:35.who took their own life were known Would you agree that is
:13:36. > :13:39.a damning indictment of the state of mental health
:13:40. > :13:41.services within our prison estate? I think the level
:13:42. > :13:44.of self harm and the deaths in prison
:13:45. > :13:48.are a dreadful thing. And yes, it is a damning indictment
:13:49. > :13:58.that anybody takes the Levels of self harm
:13:59. > :14:03.going up by this is something that worries all of us
:14:04. > :14:06.who work in prisons and actually every time I hear of a death,
:14:07. > :14:08.which I do It's more than dreadful, it's a sign
:14:09. > :14:13.that the system has utterly failed, Where 70% of these people are known
:14:14. > :14:17.to have a mental health condition, it is a sign that mental
:14:18. > :14:20.health services in prison have I think, as was said earlier,
:14:21. > :14:24.it is a sign of a whole range of things that aren't working
:14:25. > :14:28.how we would want them to work and I think there's a whole range
:14:29. > :14:30.of factors that have led to increases in self harm
:14:31. > :14:32.and suicide in prisons. And some of them were referred
:14:33. > :14:39.to earlier in your evidence. A lot of those things are in your
:14:40. > :14:41.control. Some things are in our control, absolutely. I am not
:14:42. > :14:46.denying the issue about the changes in the prison regime and the number
:14:47. > :14:52.is of staff, but there is an issue, as we just described, about changing
:14:53. > :14:55.drug use, changing the nature of people that come into prison as
:14:56. > :15:01.well. In particular, I would say from my experience that psychoactive
:15:02. > :15:09.drugs have had a wider impact, as is mentioned in earlier evidence, then
:15:10. > :15:12.you are reflecting on. There was no question that the level of self harm
:15:13. > :15:19.going up as been an issue. Effectively, 12% of men in the
:15:20. > :15:24.system are self harming. 28% of women are self harming. That is a
:15:25. > :15:29.significant proportion of people. The incidents have increased
:15:30. > :15:35.significantly. In terms of deaths, 2016 was a horrible year in terms of
:15:36. > :15:40.the number of deaths. Thankfully, the figures released in June for the
:15:41. > :15:46.year from June 2016 to 2017 are better. We are working hard to
:15:47. > :15:52.address and reverse the increase in the numbers of deaths. Those figures
:15:53. > :15:57.in June were better but not where we would want them to be. The rate of
:15:58. > :15:59.1.1 per 1000 is much too high. We're working hard to do that.
:16:00. > :16:02.You're watching our round-up of the day in the Commons and Lords.
:16:03. > :16:05.Still to come - a familiar figure in the House of Lords bows
:16:06. > :16:15.Last week, MPs voted 299 to zero to support a demand
:16:16. > :16:17.for the controversial new benefits system,
:16:18. > :16:23.The new system's come under fire for the long payment waits
:16:24. > :16:28.The vote was not a binding one on the Government,
:16:29. > :16:31.as it came at the end of what's termed an Opposition Day debate
:16:32. > :16:34.at Westminster, not during legislation.
:16:35. > :16:36.The Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary applied for the matter
:16:37. > :16:45.to be given an urgent Commons debate.
:16:46. > :16:50.Thank you Mr Speaker for allowing this important application which
:16:51. > :16:54.rises, as you know, after a decisive vote on a motion to pause Universal
:16:55. > :17:02.Credit roll out, supported by this House last week by 299 boats to
:17:03. > :17:11.zero. All previous governments have recognised that the failure to carry
:17:12. > :17:19.the House against a motion is a, and has been treated accordingly. --
:17:20. > :17:23.against the motion is a rebuke. It could magically affect the lives
:17:24. > :17:27.of up to 7 million people. They are the people who will be subject to
:17:28. > :17:30.the flawed Universal Credit programme. I thank you once again,
:17:31. > :17:36.Mr Speaker, for considering this application. I have listened
:17:37. > :17:38.carefully to the application from the honourable member. I am
:17:39. > :17:45.satisfied that the matter raised is proper to be discussed understanding
:17:46. > :17:52.order number 24. Does the honourable member, the Leader of the House
:17:53. > :17:59.question the honourable member has obtained the leave of the House. The
:18:00. > :18:01.debate will be held tomorrow, Tuesday 24th of October, as the
:18:02. > :18:05.first item of public business. And that debate
:18:06. > :18:07.will last three hours. Meanwhile, in the Lords,
:18:08. > :18:09.an independent or crossbench peer has claimed some people have
:18:10. > :18:13.resorted to burglary to pay off debts caused by the long waits
:18:14. > :18:16.for Universal Credit payments. Lady Meacher said delays
:18:17. > :18:20.in the system were leading to rises The issue of debt was discussed at
:18:21. > :18:46.question-time in the House of Lords. Personal debt will increase to
:18:47. > :18:53.unprecedented levels. The they are not the fault of the individuals.
:18:54. > :18:58.They have to wait for seven or eight weeks to get a payment, and then
:18:59. > :19:02.they get a painful four weeks. It is not possible for them to survive. We
:19:03. > :19:07.heard this morning that these people are resorting to burglary in order
:19:08. > :19:14.to pay their debts. Can the Minister help them by consulting with his
:19:15. > :19:17.colleagues? No need for people to engage in any of those kinds of
:19:18. > :19:21.activities from stop help is there. It is there in the shape of the
:19:22. > :19:26.advance, which is deep percent of people take advantage of. Universal
:19:27. > :19:33.Credit was brought in with cross-party support because with the
:19:34. > :19:38.very purpose that what it would do is it would stop the perverse
:19:39. > :19:42.incentives that meant under the previous benefits system, people
:19:43. > :19:48.would work more hours and be worse off than being in a system where it
:19:49. > :19:52.was better to work. A former Labour leader was also
:19:53. > :20:01.concerned about rising debt levels. Personal debt is back over 200
:20:02. > :20:08.billion. Council tax and utility bills are at record levels of
:20:09. > :20:12.default, and 40% of mortgage borrowers in our country have no
:20:13. > :20:16.experience of dealing with an interest-rate rise. In those
:20:17. > :20:23.perilous circumstances, will the Minister join others in strongly
:20:24. > :20:28.urging the Bank of England not to increase interest rates, which would
:20:29. > :20:34.devastate families, businesses and the economy and do nothing to
:20:35. > :20:38.diminish inflation, which is largely in any case the result of the
:20:39. > :20:48.post-referendum devaluation of the pound? He will know that it is
:20:49. > :20:54.difficult and possible for me to comment -- impossible for me to
:20:55. > :20:59.comment on that, which is set by the monetary policy. They are areas of
:21:00. > :21:05.concern because they are happening at a time when we have historic low
:21:06. > :21:09.interest rates. The crisis is upon us and it is evident that it is.
:21:10. > :21:15.Will the Minister recognise that the Government has got an opportunity
:21:16. > :21:20.tomorrow to accept an amendment tabled by the opposition for a
:21:21. > :21:23.breathing space for debtors in circumstances where the Government,
:21:24. > :21:27.during the general election of course, the Conservative party was
:21:28. > :21:31.in favour of this proposal. Can he not see that the urgency of the
:21:32. > :21:36.situation demands that they act tomorrow, positively? I think on
:21:37. > :21:42.this particular Bill, which is meant to be improving the level of debt
:21:43. > :21:47.advice, it has been brought in welcomed. This is about debt and the
:21:48. > :21:51.horrible situation that people get into because of debt. It is
:21:52. > :21:59.wonderful that the Government are trying to do something to reduce
:22:00. > :22:08.this and to make people more aware. But what incentive will they give to
:22:09. > :22:14.people to save? Debt is being addressed but there is no incentive
:22:15. > :22:17.at all to save stop certainly in the report that was referred to earlier,
:22:18. > :22:26.one of the staggering statements that was made their was that in over
:22:27. > :22:29.40%, Britons have over less than ?40 buffer in savings before they
:22:30. > :22:36.trigger into debt. That is one of the reasons why my honourable friend
:22:37. > :22:43.will be happy that we have established a help to save scheme,
:22:44. > :22:49.which will help people save ?50 a month. If they do that for two
:22:50. > :22:53.years, the Government will receive a 50% grant, to encourage saving.
:22:54. > :22:55.The Government plans to promote electric and driverless cars
:22:56. > :22:57.by requiring petrol stations and motorway service stations
:22:58. > :22:59.across the country to install more charging points.
:23:00. > :23:04.in the Automated and Electric Vehicles Bill,
:23:05. > :23:06.which has passed its first parliamentary hurdle.
:23:07. > :23:09.The bill also aims to specify who is liable for damages
:23:10. > :23:18.following accidents involving automated vehicles.
:23:19. > :23:25.Over the next decade, cars will change more than they have for life
:23:26. > :23:28.times. There will be changes to the way with power and fuel our cars and
:23:29. > :23:32.even changes to the way we pay for motoring. It is not just happening
:23:33. > :23:37.in the United Kingdom, it is happening around the world. Just as
:23:38. > :23:43.Henry Ford proved a century ago, there are huge chances for
:23:44. > :23:48.innovators to realise the revolutionary potential of new
:23:49. > :23:53.automotive technologies. Exports from vehicles are already worth 2.5
:23:54. > :23:58.billion to our economy. It is estimated the market for autonomous
:23:59. > :24:05.vehicles could be worth 28 billion by 2035. I bought a Nissan Leaf last
:24:06. > :24:11.month and I was struck by the fact that you have your own charging
:24:12. > :24:14.point, you need off-street parking. Obviously, that is not possible for
:24:15. > :24:20.anyone with a flat or a terraced house. Will ministers please
:24:21. > :24:25.consider, in all new housing developments, changing the planning
:24:26. > :24:31.rules to require charging points to be put into new roads, as well as at
:24:32. > :24:37.railway stations and in all publicly owned car parks, as in France? That
:24:38. > :24:42.is a very good point. I will happily have discussions with my colleagues.
:24:43. > :24:44.Finally, at the age of 95, the Conservative Lady Trumpington
:24:45. > :24:46.has announced her retirement from Westminster -
:24:47. > :24:48.she's made a final appearance in the Lords
:24:49. > :24:52.In a long and varied career, Lady Trumpington worked
:24:53. > :24:56.at the Bletchley Park code-breaking centre during the Second World War,
:24:57. > :24:58.served as mayor of Cambridge, and was a Government whip
:24:59. > :25:10.and a minister in Margaret Thatcher's governments of the 1980s.
:25:11. > :25:12.Lady Trumpington, a great character in the Lords.
:25:13. > :25:17.Mandy Baker will be here for the rest of the week.