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:00:15. > :00:18.Tonight on Newsnight Scotland - one year to the London Olympics and

:00:18. > :00:23.three until the Glasgow Commonwealth Games. Stunning venues

:00:23. > :00:27.are being built in both cities but when the crowds have gone home what

:00:27. > :00:33.are the benefits to Britain? And a revolution in the wake the

:00:33. > :00:40.justice system deals with and rape allegations. We will hear what it

:00:40. > :00:43.has done to change attitudes. Synchronised swimmers, a lone diver

:00:43. > :00:49.and Boris Johnson ruffling his hair - it can hardly escape you notice

:00:49. > :00:53.that today marks one year to go up until the London Olympics. Stunning

:00:53. > :00:58.stadiums are being built in the deprived area of east London and

:00:58. > :01:01.Glasgow has seen construction of a Velodrome and an athlete's village

:01:01. > :01:07.for the 2014 Commonwealth Games, but will these events make any

:01:07. > :01:11.lasting difference? We all love a party and there is no

:01:11. > :01:15.doubt that big events like the Olympics and the Commonwealth Games

:01:15. > :01:20.are enjoyed by millions, whether they are at the event or watching

:01:20. > :01:25.on TV. But it comes at a cost. Next year's London Olympics have a price

:01:25. > :01:30.tag of more than �9 billion but it is argued it will regenerate a run-

:01:30. > :01:36.down area of the capital and bring in jobs and new housing. It is also

:01:36. > :01:41.hoped the same thing will happen in Glasgow in 2014. In the short term

:01:41. > :01:45.there were jobs being created in the construction of the venues and

:01:45. > :01:52.there will be long-term jobs also in terms of staff who have to be

:01:52. > :01:57.employed in those anys to run the facilities. In the longer terms,

:01:57. > :02:01.the hope job creation and healthier lifestyles, participation in sport

:02:01. > :02:05.and raising the profile on the international stage will be a

:02:05. > :02:13.lasting benefit. It is another three years before Glasgow plays

:02:13. > :02:18.host to the Commonwealth Games but already there are signs of change.

:02:18. > :02:22.But what happens when those same athletes pack up and go home? The

:02:22. > :02:28.difficulty then will be translating these new buildings into a lasting

:02:28. > :02:32.legacy for Scotland. Many studies have been done but there is little

:02:32. > :02:37.proof that hosting big events like the games translates into a lasting

:02:38. > :02:42.benefit. Fault of the evidence I have collected is clearly showing

:02:42. > :02:47.that the numbers of jobs that are produced are far smaller than what

:02:47. > :02:52.is projected, and the cost of getting those jobs into the system

:02:52. > :02:57.is astronomical. Why do we need a Games event to create jobs? We can

:02:57. > :03:03.create jobs in other ways that are much more sustainable and long-term

:03:03. > :03:06.than needing a Games event to trigger those things. It was a

:03:06. > :03:10.problem the organisers of the 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester

:03:10. > :03:15.also came up against. When Newsnight Scotland visited last

:03:15. > :03:20.year, the organisers said and of his legacy had failed to

:03:21. > :03:25.materialise. Legacy itself is hard to grasp and hard for people to get

:03:25. > :03:31.their head around and that needs as much attention before the event as

:03:31. > :03:37.developing the bricks and mortar. I think the legacy side of it

:03:37. > :03:41.probably needs as much attention as some of the physical infrastructure.

:03:41. > :03:47.But Glasgow's organisers have laid out what legacy they expect and it

:03:47. > :03:50.is not just about creating jobs. Their plans include making Glasgow

:03:50. > :03:55.healthier and they say the new facilities like the Velodrome will

:03:55. > :04:02.help them get more people involved in sport. The Ovett in the East End

:04:02. > :04:07.for the indoor sports arena, we are also building a five-a-side

:04:07. > :04:12.football pitches beside the Velodrome, we are building a cycle

:04:12. > :04:16.track to encourage people to have taster sessions of cycling. All of

:04:16. > :04:22.this makes it easier for us to manage a process of getting more

:04:22. > :04:28.people to come and participate in sport. But cannot go achieve what

:04:28. > :04:34.many before have failed to do? worried about legacy. No big event

:04:34. > :04:39.has had a sporting legacy and I think what happens with all major

:04:39. > :04:44.events is that people are inspired to take up the sport, but to keep

:04:44. > :04:51.people doing that sport, you have to have capacity. You increase

:04:51. > :04:55.demand but unless you increase capacity, public tracks, public

:04:55. > :05:01.places to play in - there never has been and never will be an increase

:05:01. > :05:05.in legacy. And then there is the question of who benefits? In

:05:05. > :05:10.Stratford, many local people have been moved out to make way for new

:05:10. > :05:15.Olympic developments. Because the property prices in Stafford

:05:15. > :05:19.increase, it means the people who might have lived there before, the

:05:19. > :05:24.children of the people who have worked there for generations cannot

:05:24. > :05:28.afford property there. Most to regenerate its see that as a good

:05:28. > :05:34.thing, but it is a downside if you are one of the local people who

:05:34. > :05:39.wanted to buy a little flat next to your mum or down your road next to

:05:39. > :05:43.friends. The benefits accrued to property developers and we

:05:43. > :05:53.generators and the wealthy and the privileged classes, and those on

:05:53. > :05:53.

:05:53. > :05:59.the receiving end of those kinds of And then there is the sporting

:05:59. > :06:04.stars of the future. Manchester's Commonwealth Velodrome is credited

:06:04. > :06:09.with helping Chris Hoy become that a medallist at the Olympics. All

:06:09. > :06:13.these games have done their job if the cash invested his turn to gold?

:06:13. > :06:19.I am joined by the sports journalist Doug Gillon who has

:06:19. > :06:29.covered 10 Olympics and from Edinburgh, professor of Joe

:06:29. > :06:32.

:06:32. > :06:38.Is there any evidence that these things do any good? The evidence is

:06:38. > :06:44.a marginal. In fact, out of 17 Olympic Games that were studied,

:06:44. > :06:48.only half delivered the tangible bricks-and-mortar infrastructure

:06:48. > :06:52.legacy. These are largely aspirational events and they raised

:06:52. > :06:57.the hopes and dreams and increase the pride of place that is felt by

:06:57. > :07:02.citizens in the community. That in itself is an important legacy,

:07:02. > :07:07.after all, determined legacy comes from the Latin which means a decree.

:07:07. > :07:12.So if we bequeath to future generations, greater hopes to the

:07:12. > :07:19.future of these games, that is important. But talk of economic

:07:19. > :07:23.benefits? They are usually short- term benefits and in these studies

:07:23. > :07:26.that have been conducted, the economic benefit is usually very

:07:26. > :07:31.short term. However, it is difficult to determine this because

:07:31. > :07:41.they have not been sufficient studies to look at cities over her

:07:41. > :07:45.

:07:45. > :07:52.I think we are being to tunnel vision and. I'm sure Professor Gold

:07:53. > :07:57.Platt could tell me a lot more about cities like Sydney and

:07:57. > :08:00.Barcelona, which have had ongoing economic benefits, but I do not

:08:00. > :08:05.think we should look at the Olympics simply in terms of

:08:05. > :08:09.creating jobs, or the Commonwealth Games. To suggest that there are no

:08:09. > :08:13.benefits. Delhi staged the Commonwealth Games and hundreds of

:08:14. > :08:20.thousands of people got far better water as a consequence, which is a

:08:20. > :08:24.long-term health benefit. But the counter to that is that it is a

:08:25. > :08:28.funny sort of world where the people of Delhi have to host the

:08:28. > :08:32.Commonwealth Games to get decent water. But the fact is they would

:08:32. > :08:37.not have had it otherwise. By whole of the economic benefits that will

:08:37. > :08:41.accrue to London, and I do not think there will be too much

:08:41. > :08:46.benefit for Scotland in that, but the benefits are far broader. You

:08:46. > :08:52.have to look at the potential health benefits, if governments and

:08:52. > :08:56.Scott -- Sport Scotland used the Commonwealth Games and the UK uses

:08:56. > :09:00.the Olympic Games properly, then you can have a massive legacy

:09:00. > :09:07.benefit. You can have tens or hundreds of thousands of kids who

:09:07. > :09:13.will be inspired to go to athletics clubs, swimming clubs, gymnastics

:09:13. > :09:17.clubs. If we are not planning now to have foundation level coaches in

:09:17. > :09:23.sports clubs around Scotland and Britain, we have already failed on

:09:24. > :09:27.the legacy. I just wonder, Joe Goldblatt, whether there is not...

:09:27. > :09:32.Obviously the Olympics and the Commonwealth is on a different

:09:32. > :09:36.scale, but when we talk about cost- benefit analysis I can see what you

:09:36. > :09:42.are saying brother obviously applies to the Olympics in London,

:09:42. > :09:46.they are spending something like �7 billion. Haven't Glasgow been

:09:46. > :09:53.slightly more clever? Apart from the velodrome they are not building

:09:53. > :10:00.any special new sites. They have -- they will not be left with massive

:10:00. > :10:04.new sites. They planned to spend �500 million, which is not that

:10:04. > :10:08.much more than the cost of the Scottish parliament building in

:10:08. > :10:13.Edinburgh. It is not a massive investment to get some of the

:10:13. > :10:19.things that Doug Gillon hopes you will get. Yes, but it is not just

:10:19. > :10:23.about treasure. The term legacy has to do with bequeathing future

:10:23. > :10:27.generations gifts from the current generation. One of the gifts will

:10:27. > :10:33.be the well-being that is developed, the sense of well-being, the sense

:10:33. > :10:41.of confidence and pride in the citizens. Glasgow 2014 us well as

:10:41. > :10:45.London 2012 should endeavour to followed the Sydney model. The

:10:45. > :10:48.President of the Olympic Committee in Sydney said this was the

:10:48. > :10:54.greatest games ever. That should be the mission in terms of delivery

:10:54. > :10:59.but they should also look at Manchester in terms of providing

:10:59. > :11:04.human generation. Achievable legacies before, during and most

:11:04. > :11:12.importantly after the Games. What is that last point you are trying

:11:12. > :11:15.to make? A in terms of human regeneration it has to do with

:11:15. > :11:21.education and long-term training and engagement in sport, not short-

:11:21. > :11:30.term but long-term. That requires, as your film regarding Manchester

:11:30. > :11:33.suggested, starting early, even before the venues officially opened

:11:33. > :11:43.to have programmes that encourage young people to be part of the

:11:43. > :11:44.

:11:44. > :11:47.Commonwealth Games mission and eventually the legacy. Yes, but

:11:47. > :11:55.again, is there any evidence that Mancunians do more sports because

:11:55. > :12:01.of the Commonwealth Games? A whole thrust has to be creating more

:12:01. > :12:05.foundation level coaches. In Sydney, kids were turning up at swimming

:12:05. > :12:13.clubs and getting turned away because there were not enough

:12:13. > :12:17.coaches. If you infuse kids, like in Wimbledon week, and have a

:12:17. > :12:27.properly structured programme, you have a chance of poking my kids

:12:27. > :12:32.into a lifetime indulgence in sport. In Manchester they obviously did

:12:32. > :12:37.not do that. If you have a government with a stated aim to

:12:37. > :12:41.increase support but they do not do that to appease teachers, you do

:12:41. > :12:47.not get out of the starting blocks. The converse would be to say, can't

:12:47. > :12:52.you spend money having more PE in schools and encouraging children to

:12:52. > :12:56.take on sports and not have a Commonwealth Games? You could use

:12:56. > :13:02.the Olympics in London to do that equally well as the Glasgow games.

:13:02. > :13:09.They need inspirational events to hook them in. The tennis courts lie

:13:09. > :13:12.unused but in Wimbledon everybody is playing tennis. During the Open,

:13:12. > :13:17.everybody is playing golf. But if you do not have a structured

:13:17. > :13:21.programme to make it fun and keep it going, you lose the benefits.

:13:21. > :13:28.What about the velodrome, Joe Goldblatt? Can you see it being

:13:28. > :13:36.used after the Games? Yes, but only if the impetus begins long before

:13:36. > :13:44.the door is opened. As a dog was suggesting, education has to be

:13:44. > :13:50.part of the strategy from the beginning. -- dog. We have to avoid

:13:50. > :13:55.the Sydney challenge, when the group the seekers sign be final

:13:55. > :14:00.words, though the carnival is over, I will love you till I die. We

:14:00. > :14:08.don't want to wait until the closing ceremony. We want the love

:14:08. > :14:13.and the engagement now. From your study of events, what do you think,

:14:13. > :14:21.in terms of public events, give you the most Banfield but, in terms of

:14:21. > :14:31.economic development or broader terms? -- the most bang for your

:14:31. > :14:34.buck. Health, education and public self- did -- public safety are

:14:34. > :14:39.extremely important that all of them would be lost without the

:14:39. > :14:46.opportunity to come together as a local, regional, national and

:14:46. > :14:51.global community. Only a massive hallmark event or even a local gala

:14:51. > :14:55.or carnival provides that kind of atmosphere. I think the return on

:14:55. > :14:58.investment, if you will, is priceless. We have to leave it

:14:58. > :15:05.there. Thank you both very much indeed.

:15:05. > :15:10.No other crime is more complex than break. The words of the former lord

:15:10. > :15:20.advocate, won, who made reform of the prosecution of rape among her

:15:20. > :15:22.

:15:22. > :15:26.key priorities. -- Elish Angiolini. With historically low correction

:15:26. > :15:36.rates, the National Sex Crimes Unit was set up. The outgoing head of

:15:36. > :15:37.

:15:37. > :15:41.the unit has been speaking to our home affairs correspondent.

:15:41. > :15:46.Reporting rape is always difficult. Victims are traumatised, possibly

:15:46. > :15:51.injured and fearful they will not be believed.

:15:52. > :15:57.Everything that happens here is in your control.

:15:57. > :16:06.Archway Glasgow is part of what has been called a revolution in the way

:16:06. > :16:10.that rape victims are treated. The revolution was started by the

:16:10. > :16:17.former lord advocate, born mack, stung by criticism that Scotland's

:16:17. > :16:27.rape conviction rate, 3 %, was below list in Europe. -- the former

:16:27. > :16:30.

:16:30. > :16:40.lord advocate, bon Ann. -- and Elish Angiolini.

:16:40. > :16:42.

:16:42. > :16:48.They understand the forensics, how much Seaman or DNA d'you need.

:16:48. > :16:52.Memory loss, effective drugs. All of these things, our knowledge is

:16:52. > :17:00.getting better and better. When you have a specialist unit, the

:17:00. > :17:07.knowledge stays there. This is the examination area where

:17:07. > :17:14.we would take the victim to have a forensic examination.

:17:14. > :17:18.Archway Glasgow is central to that. Victims seek medical care and

:17:18. > :17:23.undergo examination and police interview in the same caring

:17:23. > :17:28.environment. Prior to that, if you had been

:17:28. > :17:33.assaulted you might contact the police, you might get forensic care

:17:33. > :17:38.from a medical examiner, you would probably have to access a sick --

:17:38. > :17:44.separate medical service, such as your GP, to get careful infections

:17:44. > :17:48.or pregnancy risk. You might have to go to A&E for minor injuries or

:17:48. > :17:56.have counselling through another service. You would have to tell

:17:56. > :18:04.your story hundreds of times. If you come to us or a dedicated unit

:18:04. > :18:08.like us, you tell your story once. It is all joined up.

:18:08. > :18:14.It is critical to understand that people who say they have been

:18:14. > :18:18.subject to dreadful sexual assault are traumatised. I can't make a

:18:18. > :18:21.trial a better experience for them. They will always have to go back in

:18:21. > :18:26.the mind and talk about the terrible thing that has happened.

:18:26. > :18:31.But I can provide an environment that is respectful and dignified

:18:31. > :18:36.for them and supportive, to allow them, in the best way possible, to

:18:37. > :18:40.tell their stories. Lord Carr low-wage is undertaking a

:18:40. > :18:46.review for the Scottish government. He is looking at the current

:18:46. > :18:50.requirement for corroboration, where one piece of evidence

:18:50. > :18:55.supports another. It has been blamed for the low level of

:18:55. > :19:00.conviction in rape. The latest figures show a third of rape cases

:19:00. > :19:07.result in convictions and overall there is a 78 % conviction rate in

:19:07. > :19:16.all sexual offences. Deryck Fox says that co-operation is essential

:19:16. > :19:20.to secured good convictions. I do not want to go to bed

:19:20. > :19:25.wondering if the conviction was safe. The great thing about

:19:25. > :19:29.protections in our law, it might not be corroboration, it might be

:19:29. > :19:35.other kinds of protections, the great thing is that it means that

:19:35. > :19:39.nobody can go to jail on a pointed finger. It is not just being

:19:39. > :19:44.convicted. Appointed finger of sexual impropriety can so --

:19:44. > :19:48.destroy somebody's likelihood and reputation even if the case never

:19:48. > :19:54.gets to court. They can be subject to vilification and they have no

:19:54. > :19:58.anonymity. We take very seriously the responsibility we have before

:19:58. > :20:05.launching an allegation, prosecution or asking the jury to

:20:05. > :20:13.convict. The number of cases seen at the

:20:13. > :20:23.Archway has increased. More of those could turn into convictions.

:20:23. > :20:24.

:20:24. > :20:32.The Scottish Daily Mail - McGrath Peter face a newborn child. --

:20:32. > :20:39.Abdul Al Bassett McGrath Peter face. The Scotsman - Shetland man held

:20:39. > :20:49.for global cyber sabotage. I will be back tomorrow. Until then,

:20:49. > :21:11.

:21:11. > :21:16.For the Midlands it looks like a fine day and a lot sunnier across

:21:16. > :21:21.parts of eastern England compared to Wednesday. Across the south-west

:21:21. > :21:26.we might see some increase in cloud, maybe the odd spot of drizzle, but

:21:26. > :21:31.that will be it, really. You might have some brightness and across

:21:31. > :21:35.Wales there will be the odd spot of rain but some brightness possible.

:21:35. > :21:40.For Northern Ireland, after a wet night in some places, things

:21:40. > :21:47.brightening up across the bay. Temperatures not as high as they

:21:47. > :21:52.were but pleasant enough in the sunshine. Not as warm tomorrow, it

:21:52. > :21:57.will be tried both. Across many parts of the UK the sunshine should

:21:57. > :22:05.return. By Friday, plasm with light winds. Across the south, patchy