10/11/2011

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:00:15. > :00:19.front page lead that simply refuses Tonight, is this so-called respect

:00:19. > :00:23.agenda between David Cameron and Alex Salmond beginning to fray

:00:23. > :00:31.around the edges? There is a suggestion that mutual respect may

:00:31. > :00:36.be diminishing ahead of their forthcoming referendum. What

:00:37. > :00:40.happened to the respective gender? It was an idea to help David

:00:40. > :00:45.Cameron and Westminster appear less threatening to the northern tribes

:00:45. > :00:48.of Alex Salmond. Ahead of the referendum, it is showing signs of

:00:48. > :00:58.strain. Is it really the best backdrop to the constitutional

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:01:03. > :01:13.What you want? Baby, I got it. What you need? Do you know why got it?

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:01:14. > :01:17.All I am asking is for a little respect. The respect agenda shot up

:01:17. > :01:22.the political charts almost as soon as David Cameron became Prime

:01:22. > :01:24.Minister. He went to Holyrood before he went to Westminster. This

:01:24. > :01:29.was in a New Age of co-operation and understanding between

:01:29. > :01:39.government. The implication was that the days of rancour and

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:01:45. > :01:49.recrimination have gone. This But this is politics. At a Holyrood

:01:49. > :01:59.committee this week, there were signs that someone might have

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:02:04. > :02:07.forgotten how to spell that world. R...E...S...P...E...C...T? You're

:02:08. > :02:11.saying that UK government ministers are telling you that this

:02:11. > :02:21.Government is wasting its time talking about corporation tax?

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:02:22. > :02:27.Yes. The UK Government said, we will respect what you do. I think

:02:27. > :02:33.it is faltering, if it was there in the first place. The reason it is

:02:33. > :02:39.falling to pieces is because the UK Government have started to play

:02:39. > :02:46.hardball with Mr Salmond and his government. Then there was the

:02:46. > :02:51.business for the Supreme Court. They were accused by the SNP of

:02:51. > :02:56.ambulance-chasing and interfering in the Scottish justice system. Not

:02:56. > :03:06.very respectful. In Washington, for some, the Prime Minister over-egg

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:03:06. > :03:14.his criticism of the Scottish government for releasing Abdelbaset

:03:14. > :03:22.al-Megrahi. I do not need a in inquiry to tell me what was a bad

:03:22. > :03:25.decision. It was a bad decision. And did the

:03:25. > :03:31.Prime Minister could discourage investment in Scotland with this

:03:31. > :03:34.answer in the Commons? When it comes to to green technology, the

:03:34. > :03:39.combination of a green investment bank sponsored by the United

:03:40. > :03:44.Kingdom Government can make it a great investment for people in

:03:44. > :03:49.Scotland, but we can only do that if we keep our country together.

:03:49. > :03:51.He is a looking up to eight Scotland and seeing a left-leaning,

:03:52. > :03:56.Nationalist government demanding all sorts of things.

:03:56. > :04:02.He is going to put his foot down and say, no, I am going to fight

:04:02. > :04:09.for what I have. The biggest breach of all could yet come in that

:04:09. > :04:15.Scotland Bill. Where we're going is a potential

:04:15. > :04:18.clash, big clash over the Scotland Bill.

:04:18. > :04:26.If they are putting together things in Westminster that the SNP just do

:04:26. > :04:31.not like, the SNP government will say, we are not having this. They

:04:31. > :04:35.could fail to give it legislative consent and the Scottish Parliament.

:04:35. > :04:40.They could have a UK government with the UK Government Bell being

:04:40. > :04:44.knocked back on a technical motion by a Scottish government. That is

:04:44. > :04:50.uncharted territory. If we get into this kind of M pass, does it favour

:04:50. > :04:54.one side more of the other -- more or the other?

:04:54. > :05:01.BSN p will play this up as the big bully boys down in Westminster

:05:01. > :05:05.telling us what to do, and we are not going with it. We will see Alex

:05:05. > :05:08.Salmond using the argument that he is the only leader of any

:05:08. > :05:18.government in Britain that has a full majority. Because he has that,

:05:18. > :05:24.he has a right that David Cameron F M Bellis amended to allow it

:05:24. > :05:34.Westminster to do its own referendum, the reaction from the

:05:34. > :05:41.nationalists will be somewhat less. We are joined by their head of the

:05:41. > :05:51.think tank. In London, there is David Torrance. Here, up we have

:05:51. > :05:58.Ewan Crawford. How you getting along with this? With the respect

:05:58. > :06:08.agenda, it died when SNP won a majority. Before that, it was

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:06:09. > :06:19.something to disguise the majority in Scotland. It suited Alex Salmond

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:06:24. > :06:30.to appear constructive to the UK government. Does it matter? I

:06:30. > :06:40.estimate matters if the Government in London does things that is seen

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:06:40. > :06:46.as constitutionally into appearing. I think it shows that the

:06:46. > :06:55.temperature is rising. Politicians are doing what they do in terms of

:06:55. > :07:00.doing politics. It is disappointing if it detracts from the policies.

:07:00. > :07:08.It is doing that. If you think back to the 1990s, when there was a

:07:08. > :07:17.debate about a Scottish parliament, you could have a rational debate.

:07:17. > :07:26.Everything to do with independence is tense. It is and that is a shame.

:07:26. > :07:34.People in Scotland want a proper debate -- debate on the subject.

:07:34. > :07:42.Going back to the 1980s, there was not the most cordial of debates.

:07:42. > :07:48.Armageddon was warned. The same thing is happening now. David

:07:48. > :07:53.Cameron has then the Liberal Democrats over the top. They are

:07:53. > :08:02.warning of the catastrophe that will befall Scotland if it is it --

:08:02. > :08:09.independent. It is right that there will be a debate. I was suggesting

:08:09. > :08:18.that that is normal politics. It is not clear that tours have been

:08:18. > :08:28.tried on. There have been incident when the British government says

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:08:29. > :08:33.that what has been said about judges is out of order. Beyond that,

:08:33. > :08:40.the latter is just a suggestion. No one has done anything that

:08:40. > :08:47.infringes on the other. To some extent but you have aggressive

:08:47. > :08:53.language and it is almost back to Michael Forsyth. There is no

:08:53. > :08:58.constructive engagement. But that is politics. We should not get

:08:58. > :09:04.carried away. Bell were not be this cordial chat when the issue is so

:09:04. > :09:11.serious. Were built -- will there be a rational debate? If it is

:09:11. > :09:18.unlikely. Given that the big game in Scottish politics is the

:09:18. > :09:28.referendum and D Lomax, I think the next few years will be more quickly.

:09:28. > :09:32.

:09:32. > :09:37.There are much higher stakes now. I suppose seeking damage limitation

:09:37. > :09:46.would be a risky move but this year to leave it to the SNP. It can only

:09:46. > :09:51.get worse and we have seen shocking tactics from the Government so far.

:09:51. > :09:56.From the Scottish Government, we have had a lot of statistics. They

:09:56. > :10:04.can prove anything they want and that will go on. This suggestion

:10:04. > :10:12.that the British Government may organise its own referendum. It is

:10:12. > :10:16.inflammatory. Is it morally questionable? Is the SNP right to

:10:16. > :10:25.say it we are the Scottish Government, it is up to us to do

:10:25. > :10:30.this. First of all, Alex Salmond set out clearly in his manifesto

:10:30. > :10:39.that he will do a referendum and do it in the second half of Parliament.

:10:39. > :10:48.He would ask two questions about? Options. I can also understand why

:10:48. > :10:58.Westminster is so keen on weeding end. These questions affect the

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:10:59. > :11:07.rest of the UK. You mentioned David Torrance, Devo Plus. The SNP seems

:11:07. > :11:13.very keen on its, why do you think that is? Divide and conquer. There

:11:13. > :11:20.are elements in each of the three parties who want something like de

:11:20. > :11:30.Normax. Come the referendum campaign, so there is the

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:11:33. > :11:39.possibility of the parties splitting along those lines. It is

:11:39. > :11:46.just to discomfort the opposition parties. As Alex Salmond argues,

:11:46. > :11:56.the majority of stocks don't want independence but more power.

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:11:56. > :12:03.have very little time left. Outline what you think that people Max's.

:12:03. > :12:12.When people are asked it in referendums -- opinion polls, do

:12:12. > :12:17.you want more power? They say yes. What does that mean? Do you think

:12:17. > :12:21.people in these opinion polls actually have thought this through?

:12:21. > :12:28.I think the public is more intelligent than politicians give

:12:28. > :12:32.them credit for her. I think we want something right for Scotland.

:12:32. > :12:40.Possibly a new relationship between Scotland and the UK. They want

:12:40. > :12:49.their politicians to have proper responsibility. Let me give you an

:12:49. > :12:57.example, tax and benefits. Do people really want to get rid of

:12:57. > :13:07.the UK welfare system? It may also have a downside. We have not got

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:13:08. > :13:14.time to going to it. We have set out a clear way for word. We think

:13:14. > :13:21.it is the best way forward. It is a better relationship with the UK.

:13:22. > :13:30.What do you think about this? The obvious point would be that Alex

:13:30. > :13:40.Salmond keeps topping about independence. The SNP's position is

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:13:45. > :13:55.that they believe in independence. What do you think...? Some people

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:13:59. > :14:09.say, Alex Salmond, we think you are at it. We will have to leave it

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