28/03/2012

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:00:08. > :00:11.many a minister and their civil Tonight on Newsnight Scotland, the

:00:11. > :00:15.latest on the North Sea gas leak. Is this a minor incident, as Total

:00:15. > :00:19.hopes and believes? Or could it turn into something much more

:00:19. > :00:24.serious? Also tonight, an experiment on Bute might pave the

:00:25. > :00:27.way for a decent broadband services all over the Scottish countryside.

:00:27. > :00:31.Good evening. There is still a cloud of poisonous and explosive

:00:31. > :00:34.gas seeping out of the North Sea, and to the best of our knowledge,

:00:34. > :00:37.there is still a flare of flaming gas just a few hundred metres away

:00:37. > :00:40.from it. There is universal satisfaction that there is no

:00:40. > :00:48.immediate threat to human lives, but it is still unclear exactly how

:00:48. > :00:54.serious the leak at the Elgin platform will prove to be.

:00:54. > :00:59.There are three issues here. What is happening with the gas leak, how

:00:59. > :01:07.to spot it and what they have been telling us about what they are too.

:01:07. > :01:11.Here they were on Monday. platform, all the power was

:01:11. > :01:15.isolated so that there were no sources of ignition. That reduces

:01:16. > :01:21.the chance of ignition. I can't promise it will not ignite, but we

:01:21. > :01:30.have minimised the risk. But we learnt last night, as confirmed by

:01:30. > :01:34.the oil company, that there is a flair still burning on the Elgin.

:01:34. > :01:37.By saying we have switched off all normal sources of ignition, we are

:01:37. > :01:43.saying we have switched off all sources of electricity in those

:01:43. > :01:47.areas. The flair is designed to get rid of gas coming out of the

:01:47. > :01:51.process under those conditions. It is a normal thing to operate at

:01:51. > :01:56.that time. Which prompted the Scottish government to call for

:01:56. > :01:59.full disclosure. Total are concentrating their efforts on

:01:59. > :02:03.trying to fix the problem, but they have to put all the information

:02:03. > :02:08.they have into the public domain and appeared to the principle of

:02:08. > :02:13.openness and transparency. industry claims Total has been

:02:13. > :02:18.concentrating on what really matters. It has conducted itself in

:02:18. > :02:24.an exemplary fashion as far as safety is concerned. 230 people

:02:24. > :02:28.were safely evacuated. This is the latest image released by Total of

:02:28. > :02:32.the completely deserted Elgin. It is not obvious from the picture

:02:32. > :02:37.that the flair is still a light, but we are assured it is. It is

:02:37. > :02:40.also not obvious what happens next. Events in the North Sea oil fields

:02:40. > :02:43.are also watched closely from the other side of the sea. A short

:02:43. > :02:45.while ago, I spoke to the President of the Bellona Foundation, a

:02:45. > :02:55.Norwegian based environmental organisation based in Oslo. I asked

:02:55. > :03:01.

:03:01. > :03:06.for his assessment of the situation. If we are lucky, this is a pocket.

:03:06. > :03:10.If it were to go empty, that would be the best scenario. If we were

:03:10. > :03:16.down to one of these high temperature, high-pressure

:03:16. > :03:20.reservoirs, for example if it started to leak and there was

:03:20. > :03:25.pressure from one of these reservoirs, that is the road to

:03:25. > :03:32.hell and then you are really in trouble. But we are not seen a

:03:32. > :03:39.dramatic increase of the leak during the last 24 hours. But we

:03:39. > :03:47.know it will be very complicated to work with any kind of operations to

:03:47. > :03:50.stop this leak. On the Flat, if this should continue burning for a

:03:50. > :03:57.several days, Total are saying at the moment they are not so worried

:03:57. > :04:00.about it because the wind is blowing the cloud of gas a way. The

:04:00. > :04:04.must be worried that the weather will eventually change. Is there

:04:04. > :04:11.any way you can put out a flower without putting someone onto the

:04:11. > :04:18.platform of? It is very complicated. When they abandoned the platform on

:04:18. > :04:22.Monday morning, people had been fighting for 15 hours to get the

:04:22. > :04:31.situation under control after people reported bubbling in the

:04:31. > :04:36.water of. Their chances to do anything are limited. The CEOs of

:04:36. > :04:42.Total have confirmed that it may be a long operation. The best chance

:04:42. > :04:51.we have to avoid that is if the leak is coming from the pocket was

:04:51. > :04:57.of wire -- reservoir, or part of the reservoir is empty. But there

:04:57. > :05:01.is no information on that, and that worries me. You seem to be

:05:01. > :05:08.suggesting that, should the pocket not empty itself within the next

:05:08. > :05:13.few days, and should there be a necessity of digging a relief well,

:05:13. > :05:20.that might only be possible by deliberately setting the gas on

:05:20. > :05:26.fire so that vessels can move into the area? That is true. If this is

:05:26. > :05:33.coming directly from a high pressure reservoir down there, for

:05:33. > :05:43.example if they are connected to the Franklin West, that could last

:05:43. > :05:44.

:05:44. > :05:48.for many years. The drilling platform they have ordered is

:05:48. > :05:53.absolutely capable of drilling down to this depth. The question is, how

:05:53. > :06:00.far do they have to stay away? Because if you have several days

:06:00. > :06:04.with no wind and the gas leaks, or you have a build-up of pressure

:06:04. > :06:09.under geological formations because of underground leaks that could

:06:09. > :06:18.burst, you have to be quite far away. That is one of the big

:06:18. > :06:23.choices Total will now face, how close they go. South to stay last

:06:23. > :06:27.question. This particular platform was very high-tech when the wells

:06:27. > :06:32.were drilled. Looking at some of the technical information that

:06:32. > :06:35.Total have produced, it seems that they came across technical problems

:06:35. > :06:40.later with these high pressure, high temperature Wells, that they

:06:40. > :06:46.had not anticipated when they killed them. We saw the incident

:06:46. > :06:49.two years ago. Are you worried that as we become more and more high

:06:49. > :06:58.tech, because reserves are more and more difficult to get out, the

:06:58. > :07:04.danger of serious incidence is increasing? This is very serious.

:07:04. > :07:14.And again, to drill in such high temperature reservoirs is a risky

:07:14. > :07:17.

:07:17. > :07:21.sport. I am not so sure that there are a lot off easy oil sources left.

:07:21. > :07:28.We need political discussions over what kind of regulations we should

:07:28. > :07:35.have in the European Union on this very complicated, high risk action.

:07:35. > :07:41.As in the Deepwater Horizon, we see that gas leaks from offshore

:07:41. > :07:47.platforms could be very complicated to drill relief wells. We have

:07:47. > :07:52.criticised this in no way, places which have similar problems if a

:07:52. > :07:56.gas leak occurs, to get close enough to drill tests at the risk

:07:56. > :08:06.of an explosion. This is one of the things that has been underestimated

:08:06. > :08:08.

:08:08. > :08:12.by the government and by the oil I am joined now by Inverness by the

:08:12. > :08:19.energy consultant Tony Mackay who has been walking on North Sea oil

:08:19. > :08:23.forecasts for Scottish Enterprise. The last point made by a Frederic

:08:23. > :08:28.Hauge, that we are getting into areas of technology which we have

:08:28. > :08:33.not really explored before. And that there has not been much debate

:08:33. > :08:43.about whether this is desirable for. Well, we have had nearly 40 years

:08:43. > :08:47.of production from the North Sea. Most of the fields and a declining.

:08:48. > :08:54.The companies on exploring these more difficult fields, the high

:08:54. > :08:58.pressure or high-temperature fields like Elgin. And more recently, the

:08:58. > :09:05.deep-water fields to the west of Shetland. They are certainly moving

:09:05. > :09:10.towards a more technologically difficult fields. But Elgin has

:09:10. > :09:14.been producing for 10 years without problems so this is a very unusual

:09:14. > :09:19.problem. It is true that it has been producing for a decade without

:09:19. > :09:25.problems but it would appear that Total's own engineers run across

:09:25. > :09:32.problems when it came to this business of what they call him-

:09:32. > :09:38.filling Wellss -- infilling Wells. And there have clearly run into

:09:38. > :09:43.problems when they tried to kill off these wells. Just as these

:09:43. > :09:47.wells have run in production terms in terms of 10 years, does not mean

:09:47. > :09:54.there's and no problems when you try to stop them. I agree but we

:09:54. > :09:59.must accept that working in the North say is a risky business.

:09:59. > :10:04.You're working in the sea and working with oil and gas which are

:10:04. > :10:10.volatile hydro-carbons. But the problems we have had in the North

:10:10. > :10:15.Sea over the past 20-30 years since Piper Alpha up on a relatively

:10:15. > :10:20.small scale. More fishermen are killed in the North Sea every year

:10:20. > :10:25.and people working in the oil and gas industries. I think the

:10:25. > :10:30.industry's track record since Piper Alpha has been very good. I am an

:10:30. > :10:36.economist, not an engineer but so far I think that Total have handled

:10:36. > :10:46.this problem with Elgin very well. This business about decommissioning,

:10:46. > :10:54.will that be one of the big things? Over the next few years? Yes, it is

:10:54. > :10:58.a mature province in the North Sea. A lot of the fields are very near

:10:58. > :11:03.the end of their productive life. The Brent oilfield for example I

:11:03. > :11:09.think will finish very soon. That has been producing for 30 years and

:11:09. > :11:16.will the big markets and opportunities over the next decades

:11:16. > :11:22.will be removing the pipelines and platforms. Obviously not Elgin

:11:22. > :11:28.unless there's a big disaster in the next few weeks. We must accept

:11:28. > :11:33.that we have had a long history in the North Sea oil industry and it

:11:33. > :11:39.is the only declining. That presumably is a business

:11:39. > :11:46.opportunity as well. Yes, surprisingly the industry is going

:11:46. > :11:52.through a boom period at the moment because of the higher oil prices.

:11:52. > :12:00.If you're buying petrol or diesel you will understand that. But

:12:00. > :12:04.because of the high prices, a lot of the fields that determined

:12:04. > :12:07.things whether they were economically viable are now being

:12:07. > :12:14.developed for the next few years we will have a high level of capital

:12:14. > :12:19.expenditure. After that, say 2015 onwards, one of the biggest growth

:12:19. > :12:27.markets unfortunately is going to be a removal of the platforms -

:12:27. > :12:34.Brent and 40s and a lot of the oil field. The platforms will have to

:12:34. > :12:38.be removed, the top signs removed, a lot of decontamination and it

:12:38. > :12:41.will be a big market for the next decade. Tony Mackay, thank you 4-

:12:41. > :12:46.joining us. The problems of bringing fast

:12:46. > :12:50.internet to rural areas are of special interest in Scotland given

:12:50. > :12:56.that outside the main centres of population they are in a lot of

:12:56. > :13:03.wide open space. An experiment is under way on the Isle of Bute to

:13:04. > :13:13.use old broadcast frequencies to deliver super-fast broadband. Our

:13:13. > :13:18.reporter has been there to see it Good communications, whether the

:13:18. > :13:22.traditional ferry or super-fast problem, I especially important for

:13:22. > :13:26.island communities. Cut off the Paris service and the island is in

:13:26. > :13:31.trouble. In the modern area, if the rural areas cannot show the

:13:31. > :13:36.benefits of broadband, the impact is digital isolation. -- cannot

:13:36. > :13:40.share the benefits. There's no question that this is beautiful but

:13:40. > :13:45.also it is remote in a digital cent. More of us use devices like this to

:13:45. > :13:49.communicate, share and connect with the world. And if you do not have

:13:50. > :13:53.broadband it is hard to take part. At the southern end of Bute, a

:13:53. > :13:57.quiet revolution is under way which is already transforming lives and

:13:58. > :14:02.ultimately aims to do the same across more of rural Scotland. For

:14:02. > :14:07.example, the local hotel almost became the pub with no beer because

:14:07. > :14:14.of a local problem. With the internet we had before, it was a

:14:14. > :14:18.nightmare. It was going to become very difficult to order a beer the

:14:18. > :14:22.way our suppliers are pushing us to use online ordering. I don't like

:14:22. > :14:32.ordering over the phone and the representatives are visiting less

:14:32. > :14:32.

:14:32. > :14:36.so without broadband it would The experiment on Bute uses what is

:14:36. > :14:38.called white space - gaps in the former broadcaster air waves which

:14:39. > :14:43.are increasingly available due to the switchover to digital

:14:43. > :14:46.television. It works like this. A dedicated transmitter on the

:14:46. > :14:50.mainland beams a signal to an exchange building on Bute which

:14:50. > :14:55.then provides broadband internet access to local residents. If it

:14:55. > :15:05.can be shown to work reliably, it is a much cheaper option for a

:15:05. > :15:11.

:15:11. > :15:18.rural community than using an This is a great technology for the

:15:18. > :15:22.moment. Pushing out into the country. We are up against

:15:22. > :15:25.boundaries and this takes us that little bit further. It gives us a

:15:25. > :15:30.service to the people at the edge of the network and eventually the

:15:30. > :15:34.new technologies will push things a bit further and they will be taken

:15:34. > :15:38.over but at the moment as a stop gap, it certainly helps these

:15:38. > :15:42.communities especially in rural areas. The transmitter at the local

:15:42. > :15:46.exchange relays the high-speed connection to local residents who

:15:46. > :15:52.need special equipment to get hooked up. It all seems to work.

:15:52. > :15:58.And this is what it looks like if you send a clip recorded on your

:15:58. > :16:01.iPad or iPhone or of the device into the system and then by e-mail,

:16:01. > :16:06.you can get a video out of Bute and do it streaming as well. A couple

:16:06. > :16:13.of miles away, online form-filling for animal passports and the

:16:13. > :16:21.ability to do general research on stock is changing one lives on one

:16:21. > :16:27.local farm. Looking back at the depth of pedigree and cattle, it is

:16:27. > :16:35.a lot handier than doing it on paper. Has your life changed?

:16:36. > :16:41.life has not changed, maybe my wife and cats just have a few more

:16:41. > :16:46.options are doing things with them. You are still dealing with animals,

:16:46. > :16:53.not faced like working like mad or tweeting? No, nothing like that at

:16:53. > :16:59.all. This Skype call from the middle of nowhere worked fine but

:16:59. > :17:07.his white space really the shape of things to come? That is the Isle of

:17:07. > :17:11.And number of technologies are being used to fill in this gap that

:17:11. > :17:16.will never get fibre networks. We have got this, white space,

:17:16. > :17:18.satellites, people are talking about using 3G. In a sense, they

:17:18. > :17:22.will all be intermediate technologies because you can see

:17:22. > :17:26.the demand for proper fibre building. Once people get people a

:17:26. > :17:36.bit better, they want to move on to the next stage. There will be

:17:36. > :17:40.pressure. It might be intermediate This and this where both

:17:40. > :17:44.revolutionary in their day and it is hard to think of life without

:17:44. > :17:49.the postal service or telephones. Nowt the need for broadband is not

:17:49. > :17:53.far behind but the economics remain a massive challenge. It is part of

:17:53. > :18:00.working with the Government, they have got a strong strategy in

:18:00. > :18:06.Scotland to deliver future broadband services so we must see

:18:06. > :18:16.how we can fit this into the mix. Industry investment will be

:18:16. > :18:16.

:18:16. > :18:21.important but it's at important So far, nobody has worked out had

:18:21. > :18:25.to move an island. Even if they wanted to so even with their

:18:25. > :18:29.regular every service, Bute will always be geographically remote but

:18:29. > :18:38.the experiment here shows that technology can close the digital

:18:38. > :18:45.divide and in that sense at least, Bute is not so far down the water.

:18:45. > :18:50.Tomorrow's front pages - the Herald leads on the story of Cameron under

:18:50. > :18:56.fire about buying petrol panic and the picture is of a queue at a

:18:57. > :19:02.petrol station in Edinburgh. The Scotsman - the same story, petrol

:19:02. > :19:07.sales soar by 45% as drivers panic with the same picture in Edinburgh.

:19:07. > :19:12.UK Government accused of stoking fuel crisis as Union prepares for

:19:12. > :19:16.talks. The Guardian leads on of a Council of Europe report on

:19:16. > :19:23.Refugees, a dark day for Europe verdict on the refugee boat left to

:19:23. > :19:33.die. That is all we have time for, we will be back tomorrow, and until

:19:33. > :19:36.We are going to see some changes with our weather for the weekend

:19:36. > :19:40.before Thursday, think more of the same. A chilly start and then

:19:40. > :19:46.plenty of sunshine. More cloud across western Scotland and the

:19:46. > :19:53.north -- west coast of Northern Ireland. Another sparkling day in

:19:53. > :19:57.England. Temperatures reaching 21 degrees and further south, we could

:19:57. > :20:02.see temperatures of 23 degrees. A bit more of a breeze across parts

:20:02. > :20:06.of Cornwall. Coming in from the north or north-west means the coast

:20:06. > :20:10.of Wales will be a bit cooler although the south coast could see

:20:10. > :20:14.temperatures of 22 Celsius. Lots of sunshine here and across most of

:20:14. > :20:19.Northern Ireland but a change on the northern coast. A cooler day

:20:19. > :20:23.here. A cloudy day in the western coasts of Scotland. Through the

:20:23. > :20:27.central belt and much of the north- east tippled again be fine on

:20:28. > :20:35.Sunday. We will see increasing amounts of cloud as north-western

:20:35. > :20:38.areas could be a great day. -- a dull day. Temperatures low on

:20:38. > :20:41.Friday in the south but essentially another fine day with more spring

:20:41. > :20:46.sunshine to be had. The area of cloud across the north-west

:20:46. > :20:48.expanding into parts of northern and western Wales and generally a