:00:03. > :00:13.regulator no longer has a tenable position and she will be one of the
:00:13. > :00:23.
:00:23. > :00:25.first to go. The sporting scene It's been a
:00:25. > :00:27.remarkable year so far, but does Scotland over-achieve or under-
:00:27. > :00:30.achieve in the world of elite sport?
:00:30. > :00:33.Good evening. As we speak there's a Scotsman playing a Serbian in New
:00:33. > :00:38.York for one of the world's most coveted trophies in individual
:00:38. > :00:41.sport. Andy Murray has won the first set, if you're interested. On
:00:41. > :00:45.Saturday Scotland couldn't beat Serbia at our national game of
:00:45. > :00:48.football - we had to settle for a draw. But we did have a hugely
:00:48. > :00:50.successful Olympics, as part of Team GB, but then that was mainly
:00:50. > :00:55.in the minority or special interest sports like track cycling and
:00:55. > :01:00.rowing. So does Scotland punch above its weight in world sport, or
:01:00. > :01:10.not? We'll discuss that question shortly, first David Allison
:01:10. > :01:14.
:01:14. > :01:19.reports. Sir Chris Hoy -- to Olympic gold medals this time and
:01:19. > :01:24.the face of Team GB who were parading through London to mark the
:01:24. > :01:29.end of 2012 games. When I was a child, you supported you home team
:01:29. > :01:34.but he did not expect to win. Now, people can think we have a good
:01:34. > :01:40.chance of winning so why cats I go on to be a winner. Hopefully that
:01:41. > :01:46.will be one of the legacies of this game. -- these games. Andy Murray
:01:46. > :01:51.with an Olympic gold and tonight all lies on so sure unfair -- Sir
:01:51. > :01:56.Sean Connery and Alex Ferguson who have gone to New York to CV can
:01:56. > :02:03.finally win a Grand Slam. It is great to make them, their Scottish
:02:03. > :02:09.and they are here for the final. I hope I can make them proud.
:02:09. > :02:14.three-time Indianapolis 500 winner and Indy Car champion. There are up
:02:14. > :02:24.and coming Scots like Paul Di Resta, tipped for a move to a top team
:02:24. > :02:24.
:02:24. > :02:30.like Mercedes or McLaren. And then there is fit while... -- football...
:02:30. > :02:34.Supporters booing at hand in who felt they had no reason to cheer in
:02:35. > :02:39.the face of a miserable draw with Serbia at the weekend. It is a
:02:39. > :02:45.disappointment but it is not a disastrous start for us. I Love
:02:46. > :02:52.Like To Win Again. Back training for the match tomorrow against
:02:52. > :02:58.Macedonia. What is really annoyed me more than anything else in the
:02:58. > :03:07.last couple of days has been these sell for claimed ex bears. What do
:03:07. > :03:17.they know about passing or glasses? -- self proclaimed ex bears.
:03:17. > :03:18.
:03:18. > :03:26.glory days of 1978 seem like ancient history. What does it take
:03:26. > :03:29.to become truly world-class? The velodrome and the 2000 into
:03:29. > :03:39.Commonwealth Games in Manchester has become a centre of excellence
:03:39. > :03:44.and has helped raise the standard of British cycling. I think I were
:03:44. > :03:52.trying continue on and sell the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow end
:03:53. > :03:57.2014. That is being used. A lot of it is down to my body, whether it
:03:57. > :04:01.can hold out. You just have to try and earn your place in the team
:04:01. > :04:04.because there are so many young and talented riders coming through. It
:04:05. > :04:09.is a bit greedy but if I can have a home Olympics and a home
:04:09. > :04:13.Commonwealth Games that will be a fantastic enter my career.
:04:13. > :04:19.velodrome is being built here in Glasgow for the 2014 games. It
:04:19. > :04:27.could also prove to be a catalyst for more elite athletes. What about
:04:27. > :04:32.none a elite athletes, the average majority, what about us? What about
:04:32. > :04:41.in schools? What chance are we giving our young people for the
:04:41. > :04:45.future. The huge turnout for the parade of Olympic and Paralympic
:04:45. > :04:50.sports stars shows that everyone loves a winner. In these tough
:04:50. > :04:56.times, do we love it enough to provide the cash that our elite
:04:56. > :05:01.athletes need? How committed are we to be able to not just inspire but
:05:01. > :05:08.really open the doors of opportunity to a wider field?
:05:08. > :05:10.us discuss now with our guest. I'm joined now by Tommy Boyle, former
:05:10. > :05:13.elite athletics coach, now director of the Positive Coaching Scotland
:05:13. > :05:15.programme with the Winning Scotland Foundation. Also here is Brian
:05:15. > :05:21.Whittle, former Olympic 400 metres competitor, and Roddy Forsyth who
:05:21. > :05:26.writes and broadcasts about sport, mainly football for his sins. Let
:05:26. > :05:32.us start with you, Tom May, are we punching above our weight or not,
:05:32. > :05:39.what do you think? I think the Olympics have proven that Scots can
:05:39. > :05:46.compete successfully if we invest. If we have a positive approach to
:05:47. > :05:52.world-class athletics, and then recent events prove that Scots can
:05:52. > :05:58.produce at world level. We will continue to do so, if we capitalise
:05:58. > :06:03.on the positivity that has come from the Olympics. One is your
:06:03. > :06:08.assessment overall? I come from a generation where we did punch above
:06:08. > :06:15.our weight. I remember Scotland being in the World Cup and the
:06:15. > :06:19.semi-finals. In my own career, there were athletes there who were
:06:19. > :06:24.winning medals on the track at the Olympic Games and the European
:06:24. > :06:29.Championships. There is no doubt we can do it. I am coaching at the
:06:29. > :06:33.moment and there has been a massive upsurge in the number of kids
:06:33. > :06:39.coming into the sports. We have an opportunity, we have talent, we
:06:39. > :06:46.always have had talent. We have not been good at nurturing that talent.
:06:46. > :06:52.It goes back to extra-curricular sport. Especially sports that I
:06:52. > :06:58.class as entry-level sports. We're not good at sitting down snores.
:06:58. > :07:04.They are expensive. Things like swimming, track-and-field, handball,
:07:04. > :07:09.netball, if we invest in those sports which are easier to get into
:07:09. > :07:14.we would have more success. A we will pick up on some of those
:07:14. > :07:19.points in a wee while. What about your assessment? I think we punched
:07:19. > :07:24.be lock her weight in terms of potential. Do we achieve the
:07:25. > :07:30.potential out there in Scotland? We do not. We over-achieve in terms of
:07:30. > :07:35.our facilities. We achieved in spite of the facilities that at out
:07:35. > :07:39.there. We are not a warm weather country. Any sports person will
:07:39. > :07:44.tell you it is easier to accomplish things if you have the sun on your
:07:44. > :07:48.back. We do not have that and we do not make any great a tent as some
:07:48. > :07:57.countries do to provide the facilities which allow you to put -
:07:57. > :08:01.- to proceed in doors. For 2014, they are hoping to have two hours
:08:01. > :08:07.of physical education in primary schools and in the first two years
:08:07. > :08:12.and secondary. Australia is having difficulties getting its physical
:08:12. > :08:19.education through schools. The state of Victoria has three-hour us
:08:19. > :08:25.for example. Even our target for two years' time is 50 % behind some
:08:25. > :08:33.of the nations of a relative rate comparable size. Lots of different
:08:33. > :08:37.influences, positive and negative. What about facilities and the
:08:37. > :08:41.opportunity to play sport and sample sport at an early age?
:08:41. > :08:47.think there has been a massive investment by the government and
:08:47. > :08:55.sportscotland over the last 10 years. The use of those facilities
:08:55. > :09:00.is really where we need to see the benefits of the positivity that
:09:00. > :09:06.comes from the Olympics. The real challenges are that it is not
:09:06. > :09:10.difficult, after two months of non- stop success to motivate young
:09:10. > :09:17.people to go along to a sports facility, the really difficult
:09:17. > :09:22.thing is their capacity there. Is it there to get them into the club
:09:22. > :09:28.and retain them? Have we got the coaches who have been developed to
:09:28. > :09:32.take them to the next level? That is their places where leaders in
:09:32. > :09:37.Sport and the clubs have got to focus on in the next couple of
:09:37. > :09:44.years leading up to Glasgow. What a fantastic opportunity to learn and
:09:44. > :09:50.invest. Do you think we have got the capacity? It is a fact we do
:09:50. > :09:58.not have the capacity. I hear about how lazy children are these days. I
:09:58. > :10:03.think that is nonsense. It is not part of our national make-up?
:10:03. > :10:11.clubs and I coach at clubs and the reality is kids are coming down and
:10:11. > :10:16.cannot get in because there is a waiting list. We need to be looking
:10:16. > :10:21.at the development of coaches and clubs, engaging more appearance
:10:21. > :10:28.into coming into the clubs and taking an active part for their
:10:28. > :10:33.children's developments. I hear the best caught a child Oliver had his
:10:33. > :10:37.his parents. We have to bring parents back into sport. We cannot
:10:37. > :10:42.have a situation where BC the Olympic Games and then a child goes
:10:42. > :10:46.to a club and cannot get a 10. We have to increase the capacity and
:10:46. > :10:52.capability of clubs. They are countless stories of great
:10:52. > :10:57.footballers who started by kicking a ball in the street. I would argue
:10:57. > :11:01.that the 30 years ago f people had access to smartphones and personal
:11:01. > :11:06.computers, they would not have been out in the street playing football.
:11:06. > :11:12.People would not do that by choice on cold and wait days if he could
:11:12. > :11:19.do something else in the warmth of your own home. People did go out in
:11:19. > :11:22.those days. You could argue the best way to hot house Scottish
:11:22. > :11:26.footballers would be to recreate a tenement buildings and make
:11:27. > :11:32.children play outside like these two but those days are long gone.
:11:32. > :11:38.There is a trend now in all developed countries for children,
:11:38. > :11:42.they are assessments of how much the news, this declines as they get
:11:42. > :11:52.into their teens and less than as a sporting culture around them and
:11:52. > :11:52.
:11:52. > :11:56.they are facilities which are safe Well at the summer of sport
:11:56. > :12:02.encourage more people to be more active, whether they aspire to be
:12:02. > :12:08.at the top level or just want to enjoy sport for its own sake?
:12:08. > :12:12.will certainly encourage people to go along to sport, encourage
:12:12. > :12:17.everybody for a short period of time. The real trick is going to be
:12:17. > :12:24.that we start to work harder at the culture in Scotland, the culture of
:12:24. > :12:29.sport. How we see the value of sport. The reality is that sport
:12:29. > :12:33.can bring so many things to young people but what we have to do is
:12:33. > :12:40.look at all the influences of the young people, starting from the
:12:40. > :12:48.leaders in government, leaders in schools. The what about parents?
:12:48. > :12:53.so lately vitally, the parents. In some of the work we have been doing,
:12:53. > :12:57.that is the real focus because the key influence or and key role model
:12:57. > :13:02.in at child's life is their parents, right from the day they are poor
:13:02. > :13:07.and, through primary-school, into secondary school, every single
:13:07. > :13:11.point. The Olympics has almost ignited a flame which will fuel a
:13:12. > :13:16.fire. The thing is, can we communicate that to parents and
:13:16. > :13:20.help them to understand the real potential for a lifelong learning
:13:20. > :13:28.and health of their child and if we can do that, that would be a
:13:29. > :13:35.fantastic thing. Do we give sport a priority that will make that change
:13:35. > :13:40.and I don't just mean government, parents, all of us? We have lost
:13:40. > :13:45.this in society, there is a big culture shift. Both parents and now
:13:45. > :13:51.at work or are there are lots more single parents. I don't get here to
:13:51. > :13:55.the fact that DVDs and gaming is the big issue, for me, it is who is
:13:55. > :13:59.giving them that those things and who is giving them an alternative?
:13:59. > :14:03.In my experience, kids do want to get out and get involved but
:14:03. > :14:07.unfortunately, a lot of the clubs are treated a little bit like a
:14:07. > :14:10.creche where parents will drop them off and go away. We have to get to
:14:10. > :14:14.a point where parents can be brought into a club and become part
:14:14. > :14:22.of the club and they learn about the advantages of support for the
:14:22. > :14:27.health of their kids. It is a big thing, but we got to knock the door
:14:27. > :14:34.at Holyrood and say, have a look at this. We need to be doing more.
:14:34. > :14:44.we have our sporting icons, whether it is Chris Hoy or Andy Murray, who
:14:44. > :14:49.is now 5-2 up in the second set, having won that first set. Does it
:14:49. > :14:53.matter because we are a football nation, aren't we? It almost seems
:14:53. > :14:58.sometimes that no matter how well we do in other sports, if the
:14:58. > :15:03.national team does not perform as it didn't over the weekend, then
:15:03. > :15:07.that is all that counts? I would not chastise football for being
:15:07. > :15:14.successful and others for not being successful, I am glad we have one
:15:14. > :15:24.sport that we are relatively successful in. But if you pass any
:15:24. > :15:24.
:15:24. > :15:32.public park in the City where there are tennis courts after Wimbledon,
:15:32. > :15:38.they are full. People have time and they encourage to go out and the
:15:38. > :15:45.facilities to do it. It troubles me and the point made about parents
:15:45. > :15:48.being facility -- facilitators. It is teachers who are the next line
:15:48. > :15:53.of having inspiration and it worries me that in the time I have
:15:53. > :15:57.looked at sport, the idea that achieving or succeeding was
:15:57. > :16:02.something to be either ashamed of or not to be discussed, something
:16:02. > :16:06.that came second to simply taking part. I think we lost our way a bit
:16:06. > :16:09.there. I agree that taking part is crucial, without doing that you
:16:09. > :16:15.cannot succeed but there is a distinction between saying, we must
:16:15. > :16:19.not merit those who win, we must also protect those who do not went.
:16:19. > :16:23.Just saying, let's forget about succeeding and in many cases we did
:16:23. > :16:27.that. A is a dilemma for those physical education teachers with
:16:27. > :16:32.all those children in the class of mixed-ability, which side should
:16:32. > :16:39.they come down on? A thing this comes back to the issue of culture
:16:39. > :16:44.that we have in the country. How are we confuse this word, winning.
:16:44. > :16:49.Winning in the dictionary means success through effort. It is not
:16:49. > :16:55.scoring goals for winning the 100 m, it is success through effort so if,
:16:55. > :16:58.as a nation, we can try and change the way it that all of the key
:16:58. > :17:03.influencers see winning it, that young people are encouraged to try
:17:03. > :17:08.harder to succeed to sport and that is going to be the key going for it.
:17:08. > :17:13.It is all about effort, encouraging young people when they fail, dust
:17:13. > :17:20.themselves down and pick themselves up, and through sport, they can
:17:20. > :17:24.learn to try harder and learn the life lessons that will help them
:17:24. > :17:30.become if they are talented enough to make the top level, that is
:17:30. > :17:34.great but it also help them succeed in life and there is a proven
:17:34. > :17:39.correlation between that had of stuff in Sport and academic
:17:39. > :17:46.performance. Perhaps that is a topic for a future edition of
:17:46. > :17:55.Newsnight. Now a quick look at tomorrow's
:17:55. > :18:01.front pages. All the papers going on the Olympic