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:00:14. > :00:17.just a few years he's also been Tonight on Newsnight Scotland: This

:00:18. > :00:21.week we learned crime has gone down here. But it's not just this year

:00:21. > :00:23.and it's not just the UK. Why are crime rates dropping right across

:00:23. > :00:27.the developed world even in the teeth of a recession?

:00:27. > :00:35.And, when smart casual looks dumb. Are awkward world leaders or scruffy

:00:35. > :00:39.doctors likely to make us wave It seems our society is getting more

:00:39. > :00:42.peaceful. Recorded crime is dropping right across the US and Western

:00:42. > :00:44.Europe and has been for around 20 years. The phenomenon is well

:00:44. > :00:54.recognised, but less well understood with theories running from the

:00:54. > :00:56.

:00:56. > :00:59.demise of lead piping to better car and home security. The other

:00:59. > :01:03.conundrum is why, if crime is falling, does the fear of it

:01:03. > :01:07.persist? In the year to the end of March about 273,000 crimes were

:01:07. > :01:13.recorded by police in Scotland, that's 41,000 fewer than the year

:01:13. > :01:19.before, a drop of 13%. That includes big falls in violent crime including

:01:19. > :01:24.murder, attempted murder, and serious assault, down 21%. And in

:01:24. > :01:30.incidents in handling offensive weapons, down 29%. Though the number

:01:30. > :01:35.of sexual offences recorded went up by 5%, statisticians say changes to

:01:35. > :01:40.how these are categorized might have affected the figures. Although I

:01:40. > :01:47.regret we have an increase in sexual offences, I take out of that that

:01:47. > :01:51.people are prepared to stand up and make sure those who perpetrated will

:01:51. > :01:54.be treated to justice and we will make sure that we turn it in a down

:01:54. > :01:58.wards direction. It is the lowest level of crime

:01:58. > :02:03.recorded for 39 years. And it is not a one off, the trend has been

:02:03. > :02:06.downward in Scotland for two decades. And that's mirrored in

:02:06. > :02:11.other developed countries from England and Wales to Western Europe

:02:11. > :02:20.and the United States. But why is it happening? Research in America

:02:20. > :02:24.suggested a link between less exposure to - another theory that

:02:24. > :02:29.more liberal abortion law in the United States led to fewer children

:02:29. > :02:33.who are unwanted and who could be more prone to criminal behaviour.

:02:33. > :02:40.Others suggest that it is down to better security in people's homes

:02:40. > :02:46.and vehicles. More CC CTV on the screts and could consumer goods

:02:46. > :02:52.becoming cheaper? The Scottish Government claims record numbers of

:02:52. > :03:02.police officers are helping in the fight against crime.

:03:02. > :03:11.

:03:11. > :03:21.violence reduction unit, Karyn ma clus bee and from Nottingham

:03:21. > :03:22.

:03:22. > :03:26.university by Professor Tseloni. With the research that was funned

:03:26. > :03:32.funned -- funded in England and Wales, we found that crime dropped

:03:33. > :03:37.across most of the world using some data, international data set. Car

:03:37. > :03:45.crime and burglary started falling first, since 1995 internationally

:03:45. > :03:51.and then from 2000 violence started dropping as well. So violence across

:03:51. > :03:55.the world that we have data dropped by 20%. Now, this is not across the

:03:55. > :04:05.entire world. For instance, in Switzerland, violence actually

:04:05. > :04:06.

:04:06. > :04:12.increased during that period because they deregulated the economy.

:04:12. > :04:16.Sorry, I don't have much time. You don't think things like led in

:04:16. > :04:20.petrol are responsible. -- lead in petrol are responsible. You think it

:04:20. > :04:24.is more to do with policing or opportunities for crime? I think it

:04:24. > :04:30.is more to do with opportunities for crime because this is how we can

:04:30. > :04:35.explain the international crime fall whereas policing or criminal justice

:04:35. > :04:41.responses are only restricted within a certain country and certainly

:04:41. > :04:44.abortion regulation or deregular laltion was -- deregulation was

:04:44. > :04:47.prevalent in the Netherlands, much before the US.

:04:47. > :04:52.Right, so it could be things like, for example, simple things like it

:04:52. > :04:59.is more difficult to break into a modern car than it was 20 years ago?

:05:00. > :05:05.Exactly. Indeed. Our research has found that new and wide use of

:05:05. > :05:14.technology in car protection, car crime prevention has actually

:05:14. > :05:22.stopped car crime. At least car crime for joyriding. This as it used

:05:22. > :05:27.to be a way into a life of crime if you like for a young lad, has

:05:27. > :05:31.actually obstructed young people em embarking into a life of crime.

:05:31. > :05:36.Does that figure with what your experience is? Listen, it is really

:05:36. > :05:39.complex. It is an incredibly complex area and you have heard a range of

:05:39. > :05:44.explanations, lead in petrol and a range of other things. Prort crime

:05:44. > :05:47.has come down. Nobody wants to buy a second-hand DVD without a remote

:05:47. > :05:54.control and no plug because you can buy one from Asda.

:05:55. > :05:58.It is the change, part of the point there is that for example, lead in

:05:59. > :06:01.petrol, well that doesn't explain why there is more theft of mobile

:06:02. > :06:05.phones for example right so it doesn't work. Whereas things like

:06:05. > :06:11.what you have just said, why bother stealing modern electronics from a

:06:11. > :06:16.house? They are not worth anything. Listen, 21st century, we don't need

:06:16. > :06:20.to do that anymore. The thing that doesn't change so much and when you

:06:20. > :06:25.disaggregate the property crime from the personal violence crime, we see

:06:25. > :06:28.that sustaining in lots of countries. Domestic violence, he for

:06:28. > :06:31.example, we know only a small proportion of domestic violence is

:06:31. > :06:35.reported to us. Would you say that sexual offences

:06:35. > :06:38.went be up in the crime figures, but at the same time they are saying

:06:38. > :06:42.this is the Scottish crime figures, but they are saying that's to do

:06:43. > :06:45.with the way they are reported? That's a good thing. We need to make

:06:45. > :06:49.victims more comfortable to report crimes to the police.

:06:49. > :06:55.Right. OK. I want to come back to your point about the car crime

:06:55. > :06:58.because while this might be to do with opportunities, could it create

:06:58. > :07:03.a society less prone to commit crime. If, as you said, stealing a

:07:03. > :07:07.car is the first crime you commit that can lead on to a life of crime,

:07:07. > :07:12.if you don't steal the car, you might not go on to a life of crime

:07:12. > :07:18.and that could make society better? Yes, well, in addition, if there are

:07:18. > :07:28.less stolen cars in the society, there are less cars available to

:07:28. > :07:29.

:07:29. > :07:32.drive away from a burglary point and then if there is more stolen

:07:32. > :07:36.property in society, it is reduced markets for stolen goods.

:07:36. > :07:42.This could help explain why this generalised fall has happened?

:07:42. > :07:47.I believe so. Although, we have to be really careful not to generalise

:07:47. > :07:52.too much. Each country has their own circumstances and historic

:07:53. > :07:58.circumstances and also its crime type and has their own dynamics.

:07:58. > :08:02.The other side of this is that, I'm not an expert in crime figures, but

:08:02. > :08:06.I don't think internet crime and I'm including internet credit card crime

:08:06. > :08:11.is very well reflected in the crime statistics that we have at the

:08:11. > :08:13.moment, is it? No, it is not.That could be going up. This is your

:08:13. > :08:19.problem with people not reporting it and the financial institutions being

:08:19. > :08:23.reluctant to report it as well? These are just crimes of modernity,

:08:23. > :08:26.you get different types of crime as the internet increases. The violent

:08:26. > :08:32.figures showed an important trend. Really going down and bucking the

:08:33. > :08:38.trend and in fact, it was a steeper decline than in comparison to the

:08:38. > :08:44.rest of the UK. We have to sum-up. Someone advising

:08:44. > :08:48.police forces across Scotland or now the police force, does this range of

:08:48. > :08:52.explanations and this fall in crime mean you are advising people of

:08:52. > :08:55.different ways of policing? Presumably you don't have to be so

:08:55. > :09:05.worried if you are a police officer about car crime if there is little

:09:05. > :09:09.

:09:10. > :09:12.of it? It means parents have to do things, early years, health. Right,

:09:12. > :09:17.but the bottom line is that for once, this is actually quite good

:09:17. > :09:20.news. It's a great news story. Everyone who complains we never

:09:20. > :09:23.report good news can stop complaining for five minutes. Thank

:09:23. > :09:29.you both for joining us. We have to leave it there.

:09:29. > :09:35.Now, policemen may have their uniform, but the days - and women -

:09:35. > :09:39.the days when men could rely on the uniform of suit and tie are gone.

:09:39. > :09:45.World leaders looked awkward in casual dress yesterday and doctors

:09:45. > :09:50.say the loss of the white coat and ties is undermining their authority.

:09:50. > :09:54.Joining us now is the ever dapper Andrew Black.

:09:54. > :09:59.Mr Dal ton, president of the board of trade says men are too

:09:59. > :10:04.conservative in their dress. Spats, collars, ties and so on, only use up

:10:04. > :10:08.valuable coupons and could very well be dispensed with. Back in the old

:10:08. > :10:13.days wartime ministers like Hugh Dalton had to look their best.

:10:13. > :10:18.Peeping into the future, we see the well dressed man in full kit, open

:10:18. > :10:25.necked shirt, no old school tie, no socks. Why, if we go on like this

:10:25. > :10:30.the V for victory sign will show up in all sorts of strange places.

:10:30. > :10:35.the one-time Chancellor was also a big fan of dressing down. To this

:10:35. > :10:39.day, the dress sense of politicians has provided a rich source for

:10:39. > :10:45.satire. Then this photo call this afternoon, 100 days of the new

:10:45. > :10:52.leader, got you a Paul Smith suit. I did think about Vivienne Westedwood,

:10:52. > :10:57.but it was too -- Westwood, but it was too expensive and a Ted Baker

:10:57. > :11:01.shirt. No tie, we're thinking open neck might be good. I'm already

:11:01. > :11:08.wearing a suit and controversially a tie. Yeah, absolutely, sure.

:11:08. > :11:18.Frankly, it all looks a bit 80s you know. We think this is better. It's

:11:18. > :11:23.

:11:23. > :11:27.modern. It's sharp. It's slimming. G8 summit in Northern Ireland, when

:11:27. > :11:30.every world leader who turned up was tieless.

:11:30. > :11:35.Chancellor, George Osborne, revealed the reason behind the dress code.

:11:35. > :11:39.Basically, I did what I was told to do, which was turn up in what they

:11:39. > :11:44.call smart casual wear. So, I followed to the letter. I got out my

:11:44. > :11:53.jacket and blue shirt. So, does this behaviour amount to a serious

:11:53. > :11:56.fashion faux pas or is it sometimes better to be more informal? If

:11:56. > :12:00.you're a regular viewer of Newsnight Scotland, you might have picked up

:12:00. > :12:05.on the fact that I'm probably not the world's biggest tie fan, but I

:12:05. > :12:15.have agreed to get into the spirit of this item, so I've borrowed one

:12:15. > :12:25.of Gordon's ties. Now I need to work out how to put it on. Right, let's

:12:25. > :12:36.

:12:36. > :12:40.That will do. Maybe it's time for some fashion advice. Andrew, so, you

:12:40. > :12:47.could choose something like this, which is a very conventional,

:12:47. > :12:51.classic, dark red. Clothes designer Marina says dressing smartly can

:12:51. > :12:56.send a powerful message. What did she make of the G8 open-neck shirt

:12:56. > :13:01.brigade? They're always trying to steal an edge on each other. It's a

:13:01. > :13:06.game of one upmanship. They're always up to something. I thought

:13:06. > :13:12.perhaps, I mean Blair did it a lot. He would have his sleeves rolled up.

:13:12. > :13:18.I think that it was, at best, trying to create a level playing field, so

:13:18. > :13:23.everybody felt equal. At worst, maybe trying to look like Cameron

:13:24. > :13:28.was getting really stuck in, really dug in. Sleeves rolled up. He looked

:13:28. > :13:34.like he'd done a bit of weeding perhaps. Does not dressing up at the

:13:34. > :13:39.office give the impression you might not be up to the job? Consultant

:13:39. > :13:43.microbiologist Stephanie Dancer has been lamenting Scotland's scruffy

:13:43. > :13:46.doctors and is calling for a return to white coats. There is a concern

:13:46. > :13:50.that the public perception has lost confidence in the fact that doctors

:13:50. > :13:55.are now not quite so smart. There's another way of putting that really.

:13:55. > :13:59.A person who cares about their appearance, a medic who cares about

:13:59. > :14:03.their appearance and takes the trouble to look neat and smart is

:14:03. > :14:08.going to take the trouble with your diagnosis and management. So, a

:14:08. > :14:12.person who cares about what they look like will care about you.

:14:12. > :14:17.Doctor dancer says -- Dr Dancer says there's a serious side to her

:14:17. > :14:20.campaign. I didn't write the article to be a champion of white coats. I

:14:20. > :14:23.wrote it to remind everybody what clean is all about. And there's a

:14:23. > :14:28.reason for that. It's because we're having trouble with infection.

:14:28. > :14:33.in the world of o politics, George Osborne startened up for this

:14:33. > :14:36.evening's annual Mansion House address. What might the word's --

:14:36. > :14:40.world's leaders be wearing in future. London Fashion Week has

:14:40. > :14:45.closed yesterday. There were a huge amount of formal shorts for men.

:14:45. > :14:49.Imagine a suit, but schoolboy shorts, very Boris Johnson. So

:14:49. > :14:57.perhaps at the next G8 summit we might see shorts, which is even

:14:57. > :15:07.scarier than the no tie! Well, maybe not. But it certainly seems like the

:15:07. > :15:08.

:15:08. > :15:13.smart casual politician look is here to stay. I'm joined now by the style

:15:13. > :15:18.commentator John Davidson, who's wearing a tie. I like ties.? I like

:15:18. > :15:23.ties. But what do you think it says to the viewers watching you there?

:15:23. > :15:28.Probably that I'm an appropriate person to comment on the dress-down

:15:28. > :15:31.scruffy politicians. I don't know. What did you make of the G8 lot?

:15:31. > :15:35.curious thing is that they actually looked the same. You would think

:15:35. > :15:40.that if you encouraged people to step out of the confines of a suit

:15:40. > :15:44.and try something a bit more smart casual whatever that means to you,

:15:44. > :15:53.you might end unwith greater variety, but actually, exactly the

:15:53. > :15:57.reverse, apart from John Merrick everyone looked the same. -- Angela

:15:57. > :16:02.Merkle that is. The shirts all looked the same. And nobody had

:16:02. > :16:06.individuality on how they interpreted the code at all. They

:16:06. > :16:11.looked uniform, curious. What do you think they're trying to show? Is it

:16:11. > :16:15.an attempt to show like, hey, man, we're with the ordinary people?

:16:15. > :16:19.Well, it's certainly the case that for quite some time now we've seen a

:16:19. > :16:26.drift out of conventions in terms of how people dress and present

:16:26. > :16:31.themselves. Doctors, as mentioned in the clip, and all sorts of other

:16:31. > :16:35.professions are less likely to wear formal suits a lot of the time these

:16:35. > :16:42.days. It's inevitable that politicians would follow the same

:16:42. > :16:47.drift. But it's a curious thing because it's such an unusual thing

:16:47. > :16:50.to see a line up of world leaders looking so uncomfortable. Yes. So

:16:50. > :16:59.they'd better learn to like it, in other words? Well, I don't think

:16:59. > :17:02.it's for real. I think that the lass people in the world - I should say

:17:02. > :17:08.Angela Merkel looks fine. Point made. She was wearing what she

:17:08. > :17:15.normally wears. The rest looked a bit silly really. Now I don't expect

:17:15. > :17:19.you to adjudicate on the question of disease prevention in hospitals, but

:17:20. > :17:26.on the broader aspect of this thing about doctors, don't the critics

:17:26. > :17:32.have a point that somehow we, it reassures us when we see a doctor in

:17:32. > :17:36.a white coat and a tie and a steth scope and it gives -- stethoscope

:17:36. > :17:39.and it makes us respect their authority. Whereas if you have

:17:39. > :17:44.people wandering around hospitals in any old thing or a casual uniform,

:17:44. > :17:52.it doesn't do that? Yes and no. I think it's certainly the case that

:17:52. > :17:58.some people find the white coat and the stethoscope idea of a doctor

:17:58. > :18:01.quite intimidating. It might be a good thing? Somebody looks more user

:18:01. > :18:06.friend friendly, but I think most people actually prefer their doctors

:18:06. > :18:09.to look neat and tidy. I think if somebody is telling you there's

:18:09. > :18:14.something very, very wrong with you and here are your options, you want

:18:14. > :18:17.to feel that perhaps they've taken the trouble to put on a freshly

:18:17. > :18:24.ironed shirt and make themselves reasonably tidy. Have to leave it

:18:24. > :18:31.there. We will take this interview as a triumph of formality. The front