:00:16. > :00:22.to staunch the loss of life and Tonight on Newsnight Scotland, the
:00:22. > :00:27.fox at the Edinburgh tram project takes another bizarre twist. --
:00:27. > :00:37.fiasco it turns out that it will cost more to mothball it than to
:00:37. > :00:39.
:00:39. > :00:44.extend it. Good Evening. It's a bargain, nothing for just �7 50
:00:44. > :00:53.million. That's the eye-watering cost to the taxpayer for cancelling
:00:53. > :00:57.Edinburgh's disastrous Tam project. A truncated scheme would still be
:00:57. > :01:01.even �150 million over budget. I'll try to find out why and what the
:01:01. > :01:06.money might have been better spent on in a moment. Government sources
:01:06. > :01:16.have told the programme that ministers would enthusiastically
:01:16. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:24.back a public inquiry. Kenneth # There he was, digging his hole
:01:24. > :01:29.# Hole in the ground # So big and sort of round it was
:01:29. > :01:33.# And there was I # Digging it deep... # Dispute,
:01:33. > :01:37.disruption and delay. That's all the nation's capital has to show
:01:38. > :01:41.for its grand trams project. As for the bill, which makes the overruns
:01:41. > :01:45.of the Holyrood building seem positively puny, all of Scotland is
:01:45. > :01:51.helping to pay that, in return for what exactly? Perhaps nothing at
:01:51. > :01:56.all. Cancelling would be the best thing. I don't agree with the trams,
:01:56. > :02:00.but I think it would be a shame to stand there seeing as though we've
:02:00. > :02:04.spent so much on it. The official report says completing the line
:02:04. > :02:08.just from Edinburgh Airport to Haymarket would cost �700 million,
:02:08. > :02:13.taking it from there and to St Andrews Square would increase the
:02:13. > :02:17.bill by over 10%, not much more the story goes than just cancelling the
:02:17. > :02:21.whole project outright. Trouble is, there's less than �500 million in
:02:21. > :02:25.the budget and one, albeit unofficial estimate of how much it
:02:25. > :02:29.will cost to restore Edinburgh to the way it was, is another nine
:02:29. > :02:32.figure sum. The people of Edinburgh have learned to take any figures to
:02:32. > :02:37.do with the tram scheme with a heavy dose of salt. The figures
:02:37. > :02:42.have been produced with people in vested interests in continuing. We
:02:42. > :02:46.were told that we'd get lines running to Newhaven for �5 45
:02:46. > :02:49.million that. Didn't happen and I don't expect �77 0 million to be
:02:49. > :02:55.the final cost for St Andrews Square if the council decides to go
:02:55. > :02:59.ahead with that. But the council's transport convenor wants to plough
:02:59. > :03:04.on with the most expensive option. When you look at the costs, there's
:03:04. > :03:07.very little between them. When you add in is subsidy required to run
:03:07. > :03:11.to Haymarket, for example, that brings it close up to the cost for
:03:11. > :03:15.St Andrews Square, and when you look at cancellation, it in fact,
:03:15. > :03:18.you would not be allowed to pay that over the 30 years when you
:03:18. > :03:21.would have a capital asset. So we'd be faced with finding hundreds of
:03:21. > :03:27.millions of pounds right now. I think that the options, within you
:03:27. > :03:31.look at them, they have strengths and weaknesses, but the most
:03:31. > :03:35.sensible option is there by quite a distance. The SNP tried to kill the
:03:35. > :03:42.project four years ago, but then a minority administration, they were
:03:42. > :03:45.voted down by the Unionist Partys. On trams, the SNP have lost the
:03:45. > :03:51.argument. The Transport Minister claimed as minister that the costs
:03:51. > :03:55.were out of control. They're not. Does Wendy Alexander accept that
:03:55. > :03:59.there must be constraints on the ability of other parties to commit
:03:59. > :04:07.the Government or to infer the Government should be committed to
:04:07. > :04:11.financial commitments out with the budget process? I say to the
:04:11. > :04:18.Cabinet Secretary, if you have one shred of evidence that costs were
:04:18. > :04:22.out of control, the word "cost" would have appeared in your
:04:22. > :04:25.statement today. The city council Labour group today said things were
:04:25. > :04:28.fine back then, they claim it was the Liberal Democrat SNP
:04:28. > :04:32.administration which succeeded them that made a mess of it. The SNP
:04:32. > :04:36.don't have a councillor on the board of the tram company, at least
:04:36. > :04:41.until recently Labour did, alongside two Liberal Democrats and
:04:41. > :04:46.a Tory. # We're on a road to nowhere... #
:04:46. > :04:51.It is actually possible to build and run tram projects, they exist
:04:51. > :04:53.in many European cities, albeit in some which were fairly easy to re-
:04:53. > :05:03.develop after World War II, but more recently, the British Isles
:05:03. > :05:34.
:05:34. > :05:37.This is not the first time a botched job has been dubbed
:05:37. > :05:41.Edinburgh's disgrace. Work on the national monument began in 1826 and
:05:41. > :05:44.was never completed. Delays and cost overruns on the Holyrood
:05:44. > :05:48.Parliament project led to a public inquiry, but at least the
:05:48. > :05:53.building's been up and running for years. Now there are calls for a
:05:53. > :06:03.similar inquest into the trams. One focus would be the contract between
:06:03. > :06:04.
:06:04. > :06:09.Tie and the contractors, which has not prevented several costly
:06:09. > :06:12.disputes. We need to work out what's gone wrong and find out
:06:12. > :06:16.whether the figures being banded about are true. Part of the problem
:06:16. > :06:20.is that the firs keep changing, we need an independent inquiry to work
:06:20. > :06:25.out really what is going on and how much it will cost to make it right.
:06:25. > :06:29.Glasgow ease Transport Museum opened yesterday, it has four trams,
:06:29. > :06:37.four more than Edinburgh. They are not going anywhere, but they are
:06:37. > :06:41.not meant to. Edinburgh's spent millions before a single tram's run.
:06:41. > :06:46.Transport Scotland's underlined the distance ministers have maintained
:06:46. > :06:48.since they tried to stop the project. The Scottish Government
:06:48. > :06:54.opposed the project, but in June 2007, the Scottish Parliament voted
:06:54. > :06:59.in favour of funding up to a maximum of �500 million, a figure
:06:59. > :07:03.that ministers will not increase. The project is, always has been,
:07:03. > :07:07.the responsibility of City of Edinburgh and the cost of
:07:07. > :07:13.cancellation, of not taking the tram's project forward, is a matter
:07:13. > :07:17.for them. To prove Edinburgh could do it once, these pictures, the old
:07:17. > :07:24.Edinburgh trams which made their final run to the depot, 55 years
:07:24. > :07:34.ago. Maybe those really were the days. Might even be funny if it
:07:34. > :07:38.
:07:38. > :07:43.I'm joined from our Edinburgh studio by the Liberal Democrat
:07:43. > :07:47.councillor, Gordon MacKenzie who's transport convenor at Edinburgh
:07:47. > :07:51.city council. Seems rather extraordinary that we could end up
:07:51. > :07:56.paying �7 50 million for this tram project and end up with nothing?
:07:56. > :08:00.Yes, it does. But we have to be very careful about the figures.
:08:00. > :08:04.They've come out in a leak today and I can't confirm that because
:08:04. > :08:08.it's part of an ongoing commercial discussion, but yes, it's
:08:09. > :08:11.potentially one of the outcomes that we'd have to reach a
:08:11. > :08:17.commercial settlement with the contractor for them to walk away
:08:17. > :08:22.from this and we'd be left with nothing for over �70 million if the
:08:22. > :08:26.figures are correct. -- �700 million. And it would be cheaper to
:08:26. > :08:34.build a tram network, but it's about �700 million to build the
:08:34. > :08:40.thing to Haymarket? Yes, again, the figures are subject, in many cases,
:08:40. > :08:45.to an element of commercial discuss yet, but the figure of �700 million,
:08:45. > :08:49.there's also the running costs which you would apply to that. The
:08:49. > :08:54.report suggests there would be a deficit of �3-�4 million a year on
:08:54. > :08:59.that, Fuad that in, the cost over 25-30 years, today's cost would be
:08:59. > :09:04.about �7 50 million as well. There's quite a lot of similarity
:09:04. > :09:09.between the cost to Haymarket and the cost to St Andrews Square from
:09:09. > :09:13.those figures. And you and your preferred option would be to build
:09:13. > :09:16.the thing to St Andrews Square which is another �0 million or so,
:09:16. > :09:20.isn't it? I would caveat it by saying we have to have a look at
:09:20. > :09:25.the detailed figures. I've not seen the report yet. I've obviously read
:09:25. > :09:29.the leaked reports and have had a briefing on it. We need to see if
:09:29. > :09:32.it stacks up, because there's been a lot of figures going around in
:09:32. > :09:37.the past which have not proven to be accurate, unfortunately. We need
:09:37. > :09:42.to look at that as well. But the figures to St Andrews Square would
:09:42. > :09:45.suggest we'd make a surplus of �200 million a year and, on the basis of
:09:45. > :09:49.that, the net cost to the council is slightly less than the total
:09:49. > :09:53.cost being suggested. So there are elements of that which can take the
:09:53. > :09:57.costs up or down relating to whether it's Haymarket or St
:09:57. > :10:00.Andrews Square, it brings it in to about the same level is the sense
:10:00. > :10:04.of what I'm getting from the reports. Whichever option you
:10:04. > :10:09.choose, including mothballing it, you are going to need a couple of
:10:09. > :10:16.hundred million? Yes. Where are you going to get that? We don't have a
:10:16. > :10:26.detailed plan on that and that's part of what we'll have to get from
:10:26. > :10:32.council officers. Do you have a The fall-back position would be to
:10:32. > :10:36.get an agreement by the Scottish Government on a truncated route.
:10:37. > :10:41.You would have to get that agreement as a starting position.
:10:41. > :10:46.The Council would have to raise the money through borrowing. That would
:10:46. > :10:56.be a very substantial cost to the Council, somewhere in the region of
:10:56. > :11:02.10 to �12 million per year. That would have an enormous impact. We
:11:02. > :11:08.want to explore with the Scottish Government and hymn alternative
:11:08. > :11:18.means of funding the project. -- any. I do not want to close the
:11:18. > :11:18.
:11:19. > :11:24.door on Nani options. -- any. I am going to lose the discussions on
:11:24. > :11:28.the detail with officials from his got his Government. I will not rule
:11:28. > :11:34.anything out. This covers Government may want to rule certain
:11:34. > :11:41.aspects out. -- at the Scottish Government. We need to see what the
:11:41. > :11:46.best way his to help Edinburgh to resolve a huge problem financially.
:11:46. > :11:51.The problem you have is that giving you have spent almost half a
:11:51. > :11:56.billion pounds and achieved nothing, why unearthed should anybody
:11:56. > :12:04.believe you when you say that for another 200 million you can get a
:12:04. > :12:09.tram line to send Andris Square? You do not have Annie credibility.
:12:09. > :12:15.-- any. Transport Scotland, the Scot has Government have been aware
:12:15. > :12:20.of the discussions we have been having. -- Scottish Government.
:12:20. > :12:24.keep using words like vigorous assessment. What you guys have been
:12:25. > :12:32.doing is nothing short of a national joke, not to mention and
:12:32. > :12:37.national scandal. You have no credibility left. We have got other
:12:37. > :12:42.independent people who have not been previously involved. You have
:12:42. > :12:52.had an lee macro number of them and their Rezai and or get fired. --
:12:52. > :12:53.
:12:53. > :12:57.any. -- they resign. Many of the officials involved, for example,
:12:57. > :13:02.the chief executive, he was not a chief executive when the project
:13:02. > :13:06.kicked off. There are a lot of people with their own personal
:13:06. > :13:11.reputations who were looking at these figures and will be asked to
:13:11. > :13:16.endorse them before councillors take it decision. Getting fresh
:13:16. > :13:20.people in to look at it will help us to raise confidence and the
:13:20. > :13:27.figures. People do Nat have a lot of confidence and the figures.
:13:27. > :13:33.Quite rightly so. -- people do not. For presumably you would welcome a
:13:33. > :13:40.public inquiry? A absolutely. No doubt. It has to be an independent
:13:40. > :13:50.inquiry. People like myself who have been involved, even people
:13:50. > :13:55.Butt macro it has to be taken out of our hands. --.... Somebody who
:13:55. > :13:59.can look at this rigorously and tell us in it where it went wrong,
:13:59. > :14:03.how it could have been done differently. We do not want to make
:14:03. > :14:06.the same kind of mistakes we have made here. Presumably you would
:14:06. > :14:15.also accept that the political leadership and the officials who
:14:15. > :14:23.have been run in this well after the go? No, I do not accept that. -
:14:23. > :14:28.- will have to go. People want to have confidence raised in the
:14:28. > :14:37.figures that come before them. An independent objective inquiry will
:14:37. > :14:41.tell us what we need to know of that where blame lies. -- to Noel
:14:41. > :14:47.where blame lies. You have on several occasions sat where you're
:14:47. > :14:53.now and told me a load of things that never actually happened. --
:14:53. > :14:58.you are now. I told you what I believed to be true. When I say you
:14:58. > :15:04.have no credibility left, what is your answer? I have told you the
:15:04. > :15:14.best information I had at the time. We had information in 2000 and that
:15:14. > :15:15.
:15:16. > :15:24.said this is a good product. -- 2000 and date. -- do 1008. All 57
:15:24. > :15:30.of us Papa macro Hans up on the basis of the advice we had. -- put
:15:30. > :15:35.par macro Hans up. You told me he had won a shed load of cases which
:15:35. > :15:43.had been independently adjudicated. Not only was that not true, but the
:15:43. > :15:48.fact it was not true lead to be also -- to the wholesale
:15:48. > :15:58.reorganisation. I do not recall saying that. If you recall saying
:15:58. > :16:03.there had been mixed results through mediation. What I said was
:16:03. > :16:13.the results were mixed. And there were. We want some aspects and we
:16:13. > :16:18.
:16:18. > :16:23.lost on major points. Do not have go away. We had joined from
:16:23. > :16:31.Edinburgh by the Labour and Brett city Councillor Leslie Heimans and
:16:31. > :16:33.Colin Keir, also happens to be an SNP. -- Councillor Lesley Hinds.
:16:33. > :16:43.Which option would you now Professor of the ones that have
:16:43. > :16:44.
:16:44. > :16:48.been out land? -- would you prefer. None of them. One of the problems
:16:48. > :16:56.is we do not get details of the report until tomorrow. That gives
:16:56. > :17:01.us a week to scrutinise it or ask questions. I do not think any of
:17:01. > :17:07.the options are ones we would like to consider. What option do you
:17:07. > :17:12.want? The trouble is we have not seen the report. It will be put to
:17:12. > :17:16.the Council next week. My real concern is that yet again every Tom
:17:16. > :17:26.rico macro to a Council meeting, another report comes forward with
:17:26. > :17:30.
:17:30. > :17:37.different figures. -- every time we There was no political leadership
:17:37. > :17:41.at the heart of this decision making. Everybody seems to agree
:17:41. > :17:48.that part of the problem has been the original contract was drawn up
:17:48. > :17:51.between the Council and the developers, the contractors, which
:17:51. > :17:59.was done under an Labour administration, so you're not
:18:00. > :18:05.exactly blame us in this? That is not the case. In 2007 Independent
:18:05. > :18:15.although Scotland carried out a report and said this Drahm project
:18:15. > :18:17.
:18:17. > :18:27.was robust. -- tram project. The contract was not actually signed.
:18:27. > :18:32.
:18:33. > :18:37.It was signed in March 2008. That report said that 95% of that
:18:37. > :18:44.contract was a set price. It was a set price we would keep do. We were
:18:44. > :18:52.given assurances by officials that the contract was robust. And 90 per
:18:52. > :18:57.us - my Nagi 5% of that contract would be kept to. -- 95%. I feel
:18:57. > :19:03.disappointed. We have had four years of a coalition Council to
:19:03. > :19:10.have mishandled it. Colin Keir, which of the options would you
:19:10. > :19:18.favour? I have no real faults on an inner core of them. I have not seen
:19:19. > :19:23.the report. I have not been briefed. Will it can say -- what how can say
:19:23. > :19:28.is that this is the worst Ed mack - - nightmare for Edinburgh and the
:19:28. > :19:34.Scottish taxpayer. It is vastly over-budget. We have not had
:19:34. > :19:44.anything to do with the management of this. I think it is a little
:19:44. > :19:50.rich of cancer Leslie Hines. I have a Labour amendment from 30th April
:19:50. > :19:54.2009, backed by the Tories, saying that not only should we carry on
:19:54. > :20:02.with the line, but they were looking for the director of finance
:20:02. > :20:06.to find money for the second line. They obviously knew something.
:20:07. > :20:12.Aaron the same position as Labour. The SNP wants to come over all
:20:12. > :20:17.innocent on this. John Sweeney says he will not give any more money to
:20:17. > :20:23.the project. -- John Swinney. You have been running the Council since
:20:23. > :20:30.2007. To say you have nothing to do what this is simply ridiculous?
:20:30. > :20:36.Absolutely not. We have a situation where we agreed that there would be
:20:36. > :20:42.no input from the SNP into the management of this. That was
:20:42. > :20:49.because of are or opposition. We never took up the option of a
:20:49. > :20:54.member of the board. That is a curious way to exercise
:20:54. > :21:00.responsibility for running Edna? With respect, this is a project we
:21:00. > :21:06.disagreed with. We wanted nothing to do with this. Hang on. We have
:21:07. > :21:12.been running Ed Matts. None of this is Al macro fault. -- Edinburgh. It
:21:12. > :21:20.has turned into a national catastrophe. I agree with you. It
:21:20. > :21:24.is simply appalling. I have welcome Richard Jeffries's resignation. --
:21:24. > :21:31.I welcomed. I have not been impressed by the standard of
:21:31. > :21:35.management. Every report has a negative aspect. Gordon McKenzie,
:21:35. > :21:40.what is happening now. A few days ago you were talking about flogging
:21:40. > :21:45.some of the project off to a private developer. You are shaking
:21:45. > :21:50.your head. What you were. reports say in the press said at a
:21:50. > :21:56.meeting with the developer. That is correct. They were interested in
:21:56. > :22:01.funding extensions to the tram network. I said, that is fine, tell
:22:01. > :22:05.me about it. They told me about it and they went away. The press have
:22:05. > :22:14.reported that. I have not been tried to flog off part of the tram
:22:15. > :22:19.network. -- trying. If somebody says, we will do you a line to
:22:19. > :22:24.Newhaven and operated and you would not have to pay anything up front,
:22:24. > :22:29.for the long-suffering residents of Leith Walk, who may get something
:22:29. > :22:36.in return, that would be a good deal, wouldn't it? It might be if
:22:36. > :22:43.the price was right. You would have to pay either an excess Church or
:22:43. > :22:48.some sort of lease arrangement. -- charge. We're not in a position to
:22:48. > :22:54.have a negotiation about extending the tram network of how we have
:22:54. > :23:02.resolved a contractual dispute. It is a moot point. -- until we have
:23:02. > :23:07.resolved. Councillor Lesley Hinds, what you want Gordon McKenzie to
:23:07. > :23:13.do? A want him to show some leadership and I want the SNP to
:23:13. > :23:18.take responsibility. They will take special responsibility for be
:23:18. > :23:22.members of the administration and working with it Lib Dems. It is
:23:22. > :23:31.about time they took some responsibility. They cannot say for
:23:31. > :23:36.the last four years... Gordon McKenzie needs to take some
:23:37. > :23:42.leadership and speak to the SNP. do what? I have been speaking to
:23:42. > :23:49.many businesses and the community. They want to know how much the tram
:23:49. > :23:55.is going to cost, and what the timescale is. What I am getting a
:23:55. > :24:01.feeling from is that what is looked for next Thursday is to continue
:24:01. > :24:06.again and not to make any decisions. And to come back in October. The
:24:06. > :24:12.Scottish Government and giving strong -- getting strong signals
:24:12. > :24:15.that there will be some money. At - - giving strong signals. What the
:24:15. > :24:19.Scart his Government is doing and private is not what they're saying
:24:19. > :24:24.in public. -- the Scottish Government. I have not heard
:24:24. > :24:30.anything. What would you like Gordon McKenzie to do? I would like
:24:31. > :24:37.to see the report first of all. I cannot make a definitive
:24:37. > :24:41.determination on the back of what I have not seen. I would suggest that
:24:41. > :24:49.it would ever happens, we have to see what is in the best interest of
:24:49. > :24:53.the taxpayer. Unfortunately, the work is nowhere near finished. If
:24:54. > :25:01.what we're hearing his crew, whatever happens, the taxpayer will
:25:01. > :25:08.take a hit. -- is true. Thank you will. David Mellor is outside the
:25:08. > :25:12.Admiral City Chamber. -- Edinburgh City Chamber. Councillors will meet
:25:12. > :25:19.at their next week to did -- to decide the fate of the project.
:25:19. > :25:26.What is the feeling of the people that Mark? -- Edinburgh?
:25:26. > :25:30.feeling is one of depression. There is not much to be cheerful about as
:25:30. > :25:37.you head off to bed. It has clearly been another very difficult day for
:25:37. > :25:43.elected representatives and officials here. I think the mood on
:25:43. > :25:49.the street generally is one of growing anger. Deep, deep sense of
:25:49. > :25:57.frustration. Michael Uoka authorities across the country, the
:25:57. > :26:02.City is facing difficult Financial Times. -- like other authorities.
:26:02. > :26:10.They will have to argue for more money to go towards a tram project.
:26:10. > :26:13.Difficult times for everybody. People in Edinburgh probably find
:26:14. > :26:18.it difficult to believe that there are people in Scotland who do not
:26:18. > :26:26.regularly visit Edinburgh. The residents have had to put up with
:26:26. > :26:31.extraordinary disruption. Tell me Extraordinary disruption over the
:26:31. > :26:36.years. If we take one particular area, Gordon, Leith Walk, for
:26:36. > :26:40.example, which suffered very, very serious disruption over an extended
:26:40. > :26:43.period, as utilities were moved ford the tram lined to be built, an
:26:43. > :26:48.area now where of course no-one's talking about tram lines even being
:26:48. > :26:53.laid in the years to come now. The focus, at best, is on completing
:26:54. > :27:03.this line all the way to St Andrews Square. So take a walk down Leith
:27:03. > :27:13.Walk, if that's not too much of a pun, and you will pick up on a real
:27:13. > :27:14.
:27:14. > :27:20.sense of the transport convenor and what he said. People will ask where
:27:20. > :27:25.is the Liberal Democrat Jenny Doyle in all of this. If we saw gravity
:27:25. > :27:30.emerging, Boris Johnson wouldn't be to the foredefending the local
:27:30. > :27:34.authority's position. We hear very little from Jenny Doyle and
:27:34. > :27:40.there'll be questions increasingly asked about her handling of the
:27:40. > :27:43.project. The buck stops with her. The phrase that springs to mind is
:27:43. > :27:45.a great city failed by its elective representatives.
:27:45. > :27:49.Thank you very much indeed for Thank you very much indeed for
:27:49. > :27:55.joining us. A quick look at tomorrow's front-pages which are
:27:55. > :28:03.talking about this issue. Fresh blow for trams as Holyrood rejects
:28:03. > :28:13.bailout is the line in the Herald. Cost of scrapping now seen as �750
:28:13. > :28:14.
:28:14. > :28:20.million. The Scotsman, tram cost to reach �700 million even if scrapped.
:28:20. > :28:25.The Guardian, Obama takes gamble on Afghan retreat, it says,, and the
:28:25. > :28:35.Daily Telegraph, give voters shares in bailed-out banks. That's it for
:28:35. > :28:50.
:28:50. > :28:54.tonight. I'm back tomorrow. Good We are left with heavy showers in
:28:54. > :28:58.eastern England tomorrow. In the afternoon, still heavy showers over
:28:58. > :29:01.the Pennines in particular across Yorkshire, down into Lincolnshire.
:29:01. > :29:04.Scattering of light showers in the Midlands. Sharp ones in East Anglia.
:29:04. > :29:07.The threat of showers at Wimbledon again during tomorrow. Perhaps the
:29:07. > :29:13.driest weather will be in the south-west of England. Very few
:29:13. > :29:15.showers in the afternoon. Not as breezy as it was today.
:29:16. > :29:19.Temperatures still nothing startling.
:29:19. > :29:22.Wales, South Wales, seeing plenty of sunshine in the afternoon. North
:29:22. > :29:26.Wales seeing more showers. Across Northern Ireland, a lot of cloud
:29:26. > :29:29.around, more showers to come again and temperatures only 15.
:29:29. > :29:32.Not much warmer in Scotland where we'll see more showers in the
:29:32. > :29:35.north-east compared with today. Probably turning drier in the
:29:35. > :29:39.south-west. You can see we have some showers there in Edinburgh on
:29:39. > :29:43.Thursday. There may be the odd one around, even into Friday as well.
:29:43. > :29:47.Most of the showers in the north- east of Scotland on Friday.
:29:47. > :29:52.Further south, heavy showers, London, fewer showers in Cardiff,
:29:52. > :29:56.but it clouds over with a little rain in Cardiff on Friday. Many