:00:13. > :00:20.Sound and fury on the streets, but after more than a month of protest,
:00:20. > :00:23.the Greek parliament votes for the austerity programme wanted by the
:00:24. > :00:27.country's backers. Right behind me it's all happening, this is the
:00:27. > :00:32.image of the European Union today. Talk about timing, guess who
:00:32. > :00:36.demands a 5% increase in its budget, yes, it is the European Commission.
:00:36. > :00:39.This man is on the Home Office banned list, how come the Border
:00:39. > :00:45.Agency let him in and then let him slip again.
:00:45. > :00:47.On the banks of the Clyde, they are about to pass judgment on the
:00:47. > :00:53.Labour Party. Even if Ed Miliband's party does
:00:53. > :00:57.scrape home here tomorrow, it doesn't mean an end to Labour's
:00:57. > :01:03.serious problems here in Scotland, following the trouncing by the SNP
:01:03. > :01:06.in the Holyrood elections last month.
:01:06. > :01:10.You what?! You don't agree with that?
:01:10. > :01:20.Is the home advantage in sport really just testimony to the power
:01:20. > :01:25.
:01:25. > :01:29.Greece's politicians have to vote again tomorrow for the terms of the
:01:29. > :01:33.loans they have taken to be satisfied. And then that's only the
:01:34. > :01:37.start of the austerity programme demanded. But the first hurdle has
:01:37. > :01:41.been cleared, and the likelihood that Greece will simply trouser the
:01:42. > :01:45.bailout it has already had, and leap out of the euro has receded a
:01:45. > :01:50.bit. To judge from the scenes on the streets today, there is a very
:01:50. > :01:55.long way yet to go. First, let's hear Paul Mason's
:01:55. > :02:01.report from Athens. They knew it would be a day to
:02:01. > :02:07.remember. The end of an economic era, the moment when street protest
:02:07. > :02:13.meets the cold reality of parliamentary votes. The communist-
:02:13. > :02:20.led trade union came on in the same old way, but into a world where the
:02:20. > :02:26.old certainties are vanishing. Rights which have been there in the
:02:27. > :02:31.last 40 years will vanish overnight. In the private sector, collective
:02:31. > :02:35.bargaining agreements will be wiped out, the taxation is already at an
:02:35. > :02:40.incredible level. It will be serial destitution, basically.
:02:40. > :02:45.Soon, there were thousands in the square that fronts the parliament,
:02:45. > :02:55.waiting for the crucial vote. As the vote came, tension rose. And
:02:55. > :02:58.
:02:58. > :03:06.then this. What had been a peaceful protest would not turn violent. And
:03:06. > :03:13.thousands of people fled. We make no money, they always increase the
:03:13. > :03:18.taxes, they selling the country to the bankers. In this building, the
:03:18. > :03:22.Greek parliament, and they have the Greek police, paid by the Greek
:03:22. > :03:27.people, to help them sell the country to the bankers.
:03:27. > :03:37.In the square, thousands of people stayed, and fought, and the
:03:37. > :03:39.
:03:39. > :03:46.fighting became intense. Inside the parliament, Prime
:03:46. > :03:49.Minister Papandreou still fighting for a majority that has become
:03:49. > :03:54.wafer thin, and issued this warning. TRANSLATION: The Greek people might
:03:54. > :03:56.go through a hard time and they are experiencing a hard time, but the
:03:56. > :04:01.Greek people don't want this Government or programme to fail, if
:04:01. > :04:06.this happens, Greece will fail. But in the small streets outside
:04:06. > :04:12.were tens of thousands of protestors had been coralled, amid
:04:12. > :04:18.the tear ga, the mood was different. - tear gas, the mood was different.
:04:18. > :04:24.Can Greece take the pain? As in practically, I mean, look around,
:04:24. > :04:30.man, look around. Absolutely not. It is very deep down. I mean the
:04:30. > :04:33.economy is deep down, it is demolished. It is a dictatorship
:04:33. > :04:38.afterall, we have had dictatorships before. One. It is a democracy,
:04:38. > :04:41.they have all been voted for, why a dictatorship, all these
:04:41. > :04:45.politicians? Come on you are being so rhetoric. This is not a
:04:45. > :04:49.democracy. We will not stop. don't stop. No, they must stop. The
:04:49. > :04:53.Government must stop. How will you make them stop? With strikes and
:04:53. > :04:59.demonstrations, everything. With the squares. We will come here,
:04:59. > :05:03.we will not stop. What's happening? But the violence wasn't stopping
:05:03. > :05:08.either. For many here the legitimacy of the whole political
:05:08. > :05:12.system is now at stake. Are you a British station. OK, there is a
:05:12. > :05:16.group of riot police coming down, they are spraying us with chemicals,
:05:16. > :05:20.we are peaceful, if anything, we just want this Government, this
:05:20. > :05:25.fascist Government to get out of the way.
:05:25. > :05:34.As the fighting spread into the side streets, just yards away,
:05:34. > :05:39.people gathered in the cafes, to watch the austerity vote go through.
:05:39. > :05:43.Vote passed, 155 for, 138 against. But outside, there are millions
:05:44. > :05:53.against. Not just the left, but the middle-classes, who are supposed to
:05:54. > :05:54.
:05:54. > :05:58.be the backbone of Greek democracy. And so, 3.50pm, typical Greek cafe,
:05:59. > :06:07.people watching the vote. On split screen, the riot. Just behind us
:06:07. > :06:13.the riot is happening. This is the image of the European Union today.
:06:13. > :06:17.Official reports say 47 people have been hospitalised, 29 arrested, 192
:06:17. > :06:22.treated for breathing problems. The biggest casualty is consent. In no
:06:22. > :06:31.European country is the gap between politicians and the people so
:06:31. > :06:37.obvious, widespread, and bitter. Paul Mason joins us now live from
:06:37. > :06:45.Athens. What is happening? Well, there is supported addic rioting
:06:45. > :06:49.still going on. - sporadic rioting still going on. Not a single
:06:49. > :06:54.politician of any note can leave their own secure accommodation to
:06:54. > :06:58.come and join us. It is a little bit chaotic. The key thing is, the
:06:58. > :07:01.austerity package has been passed by the parliament. It is no longer
:07:01. > :07:06.a maybe, it is a fact. Tomorrow the parliament will pass the execution
:07:06. > :07:10.law that will turn this into a series of actions, for individual
:07:10. > :07:14.ministries, if you have lent Greece money, or if your pension fund has,
:07:14. > :07:18.or your country, that is the good news. The bad news is, it has been
:07:18. > :07:22.passed in the teeth of such viscerally felt anger. Come on,
:07:22. > :07:26.Paul, it was hardly the entire population of Athens on the streets,
:07:26. > :07:30.was it, and certainly not the entire population of Greece. But if
:07:30. > :07:37.people are, as you say, in such numbers losing faith, where does
:07:37. > :07:42.that lead? There are a lot of people out, the worry is, as you
:07:42. > :07:46.saw in my report, if you are worrying about strategic issues, it
:07:46. > :07:51.is losing the middle-class, it is losing the people who are the small
:07:51. > :07:55.shop owner, in a lot of peripheral Europe the pain will be felt by the
:07:55. > :07:59.public sector, and you know, pensioners. Here pain is being felt
:07:59. > :08:05.by small business people, and they just don't feel that either their
:08:05. > :08:09.voices are being heard, or that they can take it. I put this to one
:08:09. > :08:14.of my contact, one of the key political commentators in this
:08:14. > :08:18.country. Are we seeing n this loss of faith, some kind of a threat to
:08:18. > :08:26.democracy? No, I don't think so that democracy
:08:26. > :08:31.is threatened. Mob rule is a different thing. Until now in
:08:31. > :08:41.Greece, it happens in a non-nasty way. If things turn nasty, if you
:08:41. > :08:48.have mob rule, if you have people who are petty bourgwoi, or who are
:08:48. > :08:55.barely - borgoise, or barely near the poverty line, and they get
:08:55. > :08:59.furious, nobody has ever seen this play acted out, they have seen it
:09:00. > :09:05.in Germany of the 20 and 30s. is your assessment, do you think
:09:05. > :09:11.they will make the plan stick? There is two parts of the answer
:09:11. > :09:15.there. The first question is, can the plan, as envisaged, actually be
:09:15. > :09:19.implemented. Greece has all kinds of checks and balances, whether it
:09:19. > :09:22.is the unions, talking about privatising the airport, or the
:09:22. > :09:26.railways or the energy companies, the energy company is on strike.
:09:26. > :09:33.Who will buy it, who will buy it with a work force like that. All
:09:33. > :09:36.week I have been here, the words of the original boss of Fiat, in 1919
:09:36. > :09:40.have been going round my head. He said, in the face of resistance
:09:40. > :09:43.like this, you can't build anything with 25,000 enemies, speaking of
:09:43. > :09:46.the Fiat work force. How are you going to build anything, how are
:09:46. > :09:50.you going to do anything in a country where so many people are up
:09:50. > :09:55.in arms against what you are doing. That's the first problem. The
:09:55. > :10:01.second problem is does it dig Greece out of the mire to do it?
:10:01. > :10:08.Many economists believe it doesn't. Has the euro, briefly, has the euro
:10:08. > :10:15.been saved? For day, yes. For a week, probably. But the question
:10:16. > :10:20.remains, Greece is 2.5% of the euro zone's GDP, how did a country so
:10:20. > :10:24.small get the currency in such a big mess. The question has to go
:10:24. > :10:30.back to the people who run the eurozone, you tell me who that is,
:10:30. > :10:34.who we ask that question of. People here ask it. They just r just say,
:10:34. > :10:40.look, the eurozone would not be in such trouble if we had decisive
:10:40. > :10:45.leadership and some idea of what the plan is to dig Greece, nearly
:10:45. > :10:50.bankrupt, at the best of times, out of this hole. We still don't really
:10:50. > :10:53.have that. The pain in Greece is extreme
:10:53. > :10:57.example of the discomfort being felt right across most of Europe,
:10:57. > :11:00.there is one place they feel no pain at all, the European
:11:00. > :11:08.Commission announced today that it badly needs, not to make economies,
:11:08. > :11:12.but to be given much more money. Lots of it, 115 billion euros over
:11:12. > :11:17.seven years, that is about another 5% or so after inflation. They also
:11:17. > :11:20.announced a radical reshaping of the rebate system, including the
:11:21. > :11:26.much fought over British rebate. The commission also set out plans
:11:26. > :11:30.for the raising of so-called own resources, or EU taxes, levied on
:11:30. > :11:34.things like financial transactions or an EU VAT. Speaking about the
:11:35. > :11:39.rebate system today, the commission President, Jose Manuel Barroso,
:11:39. > :11:43.stressed that the EU was founded on sal darity, which meant -
:11:43. > :11:47.solidarity, which meant richer member states would accept paying
:11:47. > :11:50.for more the good of those in the union who were less well off.
:11:50. > :11:52.TRANSLATION: We will suggest a system that is far easier to
:11:52. > :11:56.understand, fairer, more transparent, in the new system
:11:56. > :12:01.there is no room for thinking about getting your fair share of your
:12:01. > :12:06.money back. Solidarity implies that those relatively more wealthy and
:12:06. > :12:09.prosperous, will contribute more in relative terms. We asked the
:12:09. > :12:18.European Commission for an interview, they were much too
:12:18. > :12:23.businessy. But we are lucky enough to be joined by the Conservative MP,
:12:23. > :12:28.George Eustace, and another European MP. Is this some sort of
:12:28. > :12:32.jock? No, it is a proposal on how we think we should have money until
:12:32. > :12:36.2020, it is not a joke, it is a serious proposal. At a time when
:12:36. > :12:40.every other Government in Europe is cutting expenditure? Yes, but let
:12:40. > :12:45.me be very frank, at the same time this is a budget that is looking
:12:45. > :12:48.for the future, we are looking at a 2020 target. Where do we want to be
:12:48. > :12:51.as Europe as a whole. Do we want a strong Europe there, acting
:12:51. > :12:56.together, or do we want to have special, all the different
:12:56. > :13:00.countries, like the UK, the Netherland, whatever, and be on our
:13:00. > :13:03.own in the world. That is the big question, and where do we want to
:13:03. > :13:06.go until 2020, this is the proposal that is looking for the longer term.
:13:06. > :13:15.We are not discussing tomorrow, we are discussing the day after
:13:15. > :13:17.tomorrow. This is serious business. A nobble ambition? I think the
:13:17. > :13:21.European Commission is just in complete denial about the whole
:13:21. > :13:26.pickle that the EU and the eurozone in particular is in at the moment.
:13:26. > :13:29.I just don't think this will happen, Britain does have a veto on this, I
:13:29. > :13:33.would be absolutely amazed if we were to accept a long-term budget
:13:33. > :13:36.like this, at such an increase. France and Germany are saying that
:13:36. > :13:42.this is also unacceptable. We are at the point now where really
:13:42. > :13:48.things have moved beyond where the commission think it has, nation
:13:48. > :13:53.states are increasingly restless about the problems we see in the
:13:53. > :13:57.eurozone and and the things that go on. Will the proposal that the EU
:13:57. > :14:02.will be able to levy its own taxes get anywhere? That particular
:14:02. > :14:05.proposal, thanks to the legislation that this Government has brought in
:14:05. > :14:09.would trigger a referendum in Britain. Unless the British people
:14:09. > :14:12.vote for a referendum to vote for Brussels to set taxs in the UK,
:14:12. > :14:22.that won't get through either. I don't think the UK Government would
:14:22. > :14:23.
:14:23. > :14:31.accept that. I think the tide was turned for those who want deeper
:14:31. > :14:36.integration. You explain that this is an ambition over a noble period.
:14:36. > :14:39.But the EU will have 13 years of continuous, real terms, budget
:14:39. > :14:48.increases. You can't really believe the people of Europe are going to
:14:48. > :14:52.put up with that? It depends where you pay the money for. Let me start
:14:52. > :14:57.by saying that the budget for the EU, the increase over the last few
:14:57. > :15:01.years by 30%, for the other member states it is an average of 60%.
:15:01. > :15:05.That is puting it into perspective. Where do we spend the money? If you
:15:05. > :15:08.ask all the member states, Europe has to do more on energy, as far as
:15:08. > :15:14.I remember this Conservative Government is claiming that they
:15:14. > :15:18.are the greenest Government ever. Well, excuse me, you need a lot of
:15:18. > :15:21.infrastructure if you want to have your renewables. Who will pay for
:15:21. > :15:25.the infrastructure where you can connect all the different member
:15:26. > :15:32.states of the EU, it has to be by European money. That is one.
:15:32. > :15:38.Secondly, we need for moreen policy, look at what is going on in Libya -
:15:38. > :15:45.for moreen policy, look at what is going on in Benghazi, we are
:15:45. > :15:49.opening an office in Libya. Looking at the bank crisis, the crisis in
:15:49. > :15:56.Europe, the crisis in Greece, it started with an economic crisis in
:15:56. > :16:00.the banking system. So now, we want to have a better supervision. Who
:16:00. > :16:04.will pay this supervision, because if European supervise, they have to
:16:04. > :16:08.be paid from a European budget. They are all topics where everyone
:16:08. > :16:10.is claiming more money. Excuse me t has to come from somewhere. Perhaps
:16:11. > :16:15.I can explain, the answer to this question is the European Union
:16:15. > :16:18.should not be spending that money. All the issues that he has just
:16:18. > :16:22.outlined are issues where nation states should be taking the lead,
:16:22. > :16:26.whether it is dealing with the banking industry or promoting green
:16:26. > :16:29.energy. These are all areas where increasingly we need national
:16:29. > :16:34.Governments to take the lead. Yes to co-operate and co-ordinate.
:16:34. > :16:40.the national Governments: The EU is failing institutions, it has been
:16:40. > :16:44.failing for far too long. It may have a future in the 2 1st century
:16:45. > :16:48.t needs to be streamlined? Come on? I always hear from the
:16:48. > :16:51.Conservatives that the EU has failed. But at the same time they
:16:52. > :16:57.are asking for more renewables, how do they transport, that how do we
:16:57. > :17:02.want to get it from Norway or the Netherlands or the North Sea wind
:17:02. > :17:04.energy of course the EU has failed, why on banking systems. You can
:17:04. > :17:07.have 27 member states controlling their own banks, they have been
:17:07. > :17:12.doing that for years, what has failed is the banking control
:17:12. > :17:17.system. Now we want to do that at a European level. You want a
:17:18. > :17:22.financial transactions tax as well in the EU? I think all the people
:17:22. > :17:28.want that banks are starting to pay for all the rubbish that they have
:17:28. > :17:34.been spreading around so far. pay the EU? And there again. Let me
:17:34. > :17:38.be very clear, all the banks are operating all over Europe, UK banks
:17:38. > :17:43.are in Greece, vested a long time ago. If you look at all the -
:17:43. > :17:52.invested a long time ago. If you look at all the banks, they are
:17:52. > :17:55.across the borders and European wide. Let's let you defend British
:17:55. > :18:00.banks? For years what has gone on is the European Union has used its
:18:00. > :18:05.own failure as a reason for having further, deeper integration and for
:18:05. > :18:08.the EU to have even more powers. What people increasingly are
:18:08. > :18:13.realising and national parliaments across the EU are realising, that
:18:13. > :18:17.the answer is not to take more power but to take the powers away
:18:17. > :18:20.from it, and to streamline it. To have it do fewer things and let it
:18:20. > :18:25.do those better. And let nation states take responsibilities, there
:18:25. > :18:31.is no need for the EU to be in certain areas skpwr. Do you think
:18:31. > :18:35.it is necessary to have an 8 - you think it is right to have an
:18:35. > :18:39.85% increase in the entertainment budget for the European Parliament?
:18:39. > :18:42.This is a proposal by the commission. I want to talk about
:18:42. > :18:45.big number, if, as with the Conservatives, we have a deal,
:18:45. > :18:50.there is another increase in research going into nuclear fusion,
:18:50. > :18:54.it is in total 2.7 billion, OK, as a green politician, I'm very much
:18:55. > :18:58.against that, can I negotiate with the Conservatives to have a cut
:18:58. > :19:02.over there? There is also increased spending on space policies, because,
:19:02. > :19:08.the member states are asking the EU to invest in space policy, I am
:19:08. > :19:12.ready to negotiate a cut over there. I'm not saying I'm defending
:19:12. > :19:16.everything. I want to discuss cuts, let me be frank, if we are
:19:16. > :19:20.discussing what we are paying for the European Parliament and the
:19:20. > :19:25.exact numbers there, it is all tiny numbers if you compare it to
:19:25. > :19:29.nuclear fusion, to space relations. There I want to discuss the cuts.
:19:29. > :19:32.The way to cut the spending is for the EU not to be involved in these
:19:32. > :19:36.areas and let nation states take their own lead.
:19:36. > :19:40.Thank you very much.? The UK Border Agency better have a good story to
:19:41. > :19:45.tell, some how they managed to let into this country man who was
:19:45. > :19:48.banned. He didn't sneak in, he arrived under his own name, and his
:19:48. > :19:51.visit announced in advance. He sauntered through immigration
:19:51. > :19:55.control, and went on to address public meetings, before, eventually,
:19:55. > :20:02.the police caught up with him and sent him to the detention centre
:20:02. > :20:11.where he's tonight. The stable door has finally been bolted. We have
:20:11. > :20:17.been on the trail of cleric Sheikh Raed Salah, he entered the UK with
:20:17. > :20:22.consumate ease, despite the Home Office having banned him. Opponents
:20:22. > :20:26.claim Sheikh Raed Salah is a supporter of Hamas, holds anti-
:20:26. > :20:36.semetic views, he denies this. He's a leader of the Islamic movement in
:20:36. > :20:41.
:20:41. > :20:45.Israel. He is said to have This is man with a proven track
:20:45. > :20:49.record, he's widely reported in the Israeli and international press for
:20:49. > :20:53.making a series of anti-semetic statements. Last month he did five
:20:53. > :21:03.months in prison for assaulting a police officer. Obviously he has
:21:03. > :21:07.not taken up Gandhi's methods of non-violent resistance.
:21:07. > :21:11.There is a cross-party agency that advises the UK Border Agency about
:21:11. > :21:15.foreign nationals coming to Britain. Last week the Home Secretary was
:21:15. > :21:20.advised to ban him. Three days later the Home Secretary signed the
:21:20. > :21:23.banning order, two days after that Salah arrived at Heathrow. Once the
:21:23. > :21:26.Home Secretary had decided to exclude Salah, the UK Border Agency
:21:26. > :21:30.should have passed on information to immigration officers here at
:21:30. > :21:35.Heathrow, and to consulate staff in Israel. Apparently this didn't
:21:35. > :21:36.happen in time. So on Saturday Salah simply turned up at Heathrow
:21:36. > :21:41.and walked through immigration control.
:21:41. > :21:46.He had meetings lined up with three parliamentarians and a public
:21:46. > :21:51.engagement, talking about the Arab Spring, at this venue in the
:21:51. > :21:57.capital. Sheikh Raed Salah finally arrived here at the Conwy Hall on
:21:57. > :22:01.Monday for a prearranged talk. Unknown to him, these premises were
:22:01. > :22:06.watch bid the met police. Iran sponsored TV was there covering the
:22:06. > :22:10.event. In all likelihood police surveillance officers were in the
:22:10. > :22:13.audience, there were no arrests. There are conflicting reports about
:22:13. > :22:17.why not. There were discussions about legality because the Home
:22:17. > :22:20.Secretary's order had not been served, but Government sources say
:22:20. > :22:24.it is a police mistake. There are all strange stories about what
:22:24. > :22:28.happened on the night. It was clear he was quite open, and the
:22:28. > :22:32.organisers were open about having him here, and were proud to show he
:22:32. > :22:37.was here. That concerned us, that actually on an operational level
:22:37. > :22:40.there are issues that need to be tightened up. He was free to go on
:22:40. > :22:45.to the next stage of his journey. This time heading north from London
:22:45. > :22:52.to Leicester for a prearranged meeting. Last night addressed an
:22:52. > :22:59.audience of 1,000 in Leicester. Finally at 11.00pm he was arrested
:22:59. > :23:06.and taken to Paddington Green station. His legal advisers today
:23:06. > :23:10.said to deport such an important Palestinian protestor was against
:23:10. > :23:14.the principles of democracy. A lot of this was unnecessary, if Sheikh
:23:14. > :23:17.Raed Salah was on an exclusion list, this should have been made known to
:23:17. > :23:21.him some time ago, it would have given him the opportunity tole cha
:23:21. > :23:26.eng it, and find out why he was on the - challenge it, and find out
:23:26. > :23:32.why he was on the list, no reason has been given to him about why
:23:32. > :23:37.he's on the banned list, of people deemed not conducive to the public
:23:37. > :23:42.benefit. This is not the first time someone of this type has slipped
:23:42. > :23:52.through the immigration net. We were told of this desperate-
:23:52. > :23:57.
:23:57. > :24:03.sounding e-mail from a Government It is a specific concern when
:24:03. > :24:09.someone turns up at Heathrow, the major treent point of the UK, and
:24:09. > :24:13.the UK Border Agency seem unable to stop someone the Home Office says
:24:13. > :24:16.is unwelcome. We need to wait a while to find out exactly what went
:24:17. > :24:20.wrong, it is of grave concern that the Government agency, tasked by
:24:20. > :24:26.the Government, and the Home Secretary specifically, to turn
:24:26. > :24:30.around undesirables is unable to do this. The UK BA are going on strike
:24:30. > :24:33.tomorrow F it is the case that you can have radical preachers like
:24:33. > :24:37.this, entering the country, after the Home Office has made very clear
:24:37. > :24:41.they shouldn't be entering the country. It does beg the question
:24:41. > :24:47.as to who else has been let into the country. The Home Office has
:24:47. > :24:52.laufplged an internal inquiry into - launched an internal inquiry into
:24:52. > :24:58.the Salah case. It was thought the message about Sheikh Raed Salah's
:24:58. > :25:03.status was passed through the communecation lines in good time. -
:25:03. > :25:13.communecation lines in good time. We asked the UK Border Agency to
:25:13. > :25:14.
:25:14. > :25:18.talk to us but they had other plans. What happens when these people turn
:25:18. > :25:23.up and the Border Agency say enjoy your stay? I would say this was a
:25:23. > :25:26.scene from the Pink Panther, if I was being uncharitable. Once the
:25:26. > :25:29.Home Secretary reach as banning order, those papers should be
:25:29. > :25:33.served on the person. Because we are very clear the Government
:25:33. > :25:38.believes in secure borders this man should never have entered the UK.
:25:38. > :25:43.What I think has happened, and this is only anecdotal, is that the name
:25:43. > :25:48.did not come up on the computer system, and what UK Border Agency
:25:48. > :25:51.staff have said is they are actually given pieces of paper to
:25:51. > :25:54.remember people's names as they walk through. Anyone who comes
:25:54. > :25:58.through at Heathrow will know there are thousands upon thousands of
:25:58. > :26:02.people coming through. If indeed the computer system does not flag
:26:02. > :26:06.up the name, that is why he has entered into the country, and
:26:06. > :26:10.goodness knows how many other people, who we are wanting to be
:26:10. > :26:13.cautious about, who are on that list, the watch list, have entered
:26:13. > :26:17.as well. The Home Secretary is quite right to have an inquiry, she
:26:17. > :26:21.must be hopping mad about this. She would have expected her own agency
:26:21. > :26:26.to have followed her intructions. What has happened, he has arrived
:26:26. > :26:29.in this country, he has been to Birmingham, he has come to London,
:26:29. > :26:34.they publicised the fact he was going to be in the House of Commons
:26:34. > :26:39.today. Invite bid three of your colleagues? Indeed, he was invited
:26:39. > :26:42.by three colleagues. Three Labour Party colleagues? Nars for them, I
:26:42. > :26:48.have not invited them - that is a matter for them, I have not invited
:26:48. > :26:50.them. Was that wise? You will have to ask them. Your own parliamentary
:26:50. > :26:55.colleagues, invite manning banned from this country to come into
:26:55. > :26:58.Westminster, to a- a man banned from this country to come into
:26:58. > :27:02.Westminster and address them? didn't know he was being banned,
:27:02. > :27:06.coming into the country. If it was publicised he was banned, I would
:27:06. > :27:10.understand why they had invited him. Nobody knew he was banned. He
:27:10. > :27:16.didn't know, the Israeli authorities didn't know, Heathrow
:27:16. > :27:19.Airport Airport didn't know, the Home Secretary must have known she
:27:19. > :27:23.signs the pieces of paper. I don't think you could hold the three
:27:23. > :27:27.Labour Party MPs responsible for a complete shambles. They are
:27:27. > :27:31.responsible for issuing the invitation, of course, the fact
:27:31. > :27:35.that the Home Secretary can remember the pieces of paper she
:27:35. > :27:40.signed but doesn't tell people what she has signed. Is that what
:27:40. > :27:46.happened, or is it some sort of computer malfunction. It is a bit
:27:46. > :27:49.of a shambles, I'm glad there will be an appearing before the select
:27:49. > :27:53.committee, and I will had an opportunity to probe hero bustly
:27:53. > :27:58.about the situation. The case has - her robustly about the situation.
:27:58. > :28:02.The case shows there are flaws in the system. We need to make sure
:28:02. > :28:06.the borders are secure, and when she signs an order it is
:28:06. > :28:09.implemented, and someone isn't allowed to travel to Birmingham, go
:28:10. > :28:12.to Leicester and travel to the House of Commons without being
:28:12. > :28:15.arrested. They are voting on the banks of the
:28:15. > :28:21.Clyde tomorrow, the constituency was once in the heart of Labour
:28:21. > :28:24.Scotland, the sort of place you could have stuck a red rosette on a
:28:24. > :28:28.wrought iron lampost and see it dug up and triumphantly carried to
:28:28. > :28:32.Westminster. After the Scots nationalists managed to win an
:28:32. > :28:36.overall majority in the Edinburgh parliament, nobody is so sure any
:28:36. > :28:43.more. By-elections are the time when politicians of all parties
:28:43. > :28:53.catch side of a stocky man with stockings and sandals and say, they
:28:53. > :29:00.
:29:00. > :29:07.are sure that is Michael Crick, REPORTER: Mr Prescott? Oh blimey,
:29:07. > :29:12.what has brought you up here. I thought we were having a nice day.
:29:12. > :29:17.Five smiling expectant face, all hoping tomorrow sees their
:29:17. > :29:22.political breakthrough. They hope to add to their success in May.
:29:22. > :29:26.Sunbathing outside their HQ, they may have looked a touch relaxed.
:29:26. > :29:30.Working hard. You don't look like you have been working hard, you
:29:30. > :29:36.look like you are being very complacent? I'm sun burnt because I
:29:36. > :29:42.have been walking around. You are more sun burnt that his T-shirt. In
:29:42. > :29:46.the Clyde, on the firth of Clyde, is on the sunny day in the right
:29:46. > :29:50.spot, one of Labour's more attractive seats. The strong wind
:29:51. > :29:59.challenged the docking crew to the utmost, they succeeded with no more
:29:59. > :30:03.damage to the ship than a scrape of paint. It has a proud past in
:30:03. > :30:08.shipbuilding. Greenoch was where Cunard ships were refitted. Jobs
:30:08. > :30:12.are scarce now. This was one of 13 seats Labour managed to defend in
:30:12. > :30:16.May's Scottish elections. Their man, Ian MacKenzie, admits his party
:30:16. > :30:22.must change here, and stop taking people for granted. We didn't work
:30:22. > :30:25.as hard for their vote as we are doing now. Is it about how hard you
:30:25. > :30:29.work for the vote or is it about the policies? It is a mixture of
:30:29. > :30:36.both. You have to work hard for the vote and have the policies, and
:30:36. > :30:40.meet the people on the street. big challenger, in what's normally
:30:40. > :30:43.a solid Labour seat is Anne McLaughlin? We are getting a
:30:43. > :30:48.fantastic response, people think it is time for a change, and I think
:30:48. > :30:52.they are right. Are you saying you could nick this one? I don't know,
:30:52. > :30:58.definitely optimistic about it. Last night she was joined by Sheikh
:30:58. > :31:03.Raed Salah, making his fifth visit in a contest where independence
:31:03. > :31:10.doesn't feature in SNP literature. You don't mention independent
:31:10. > :31:14.anywhere in the leaflets? Everybody in the SNP knows we are the party
:31:14. > :31:19.of independence. Why not mention it in the leaflet, are you hoping
:31:19. > :31:24.Labour voters will forget you are for that? Labour voters do believe
:31:24. > :31:30.in independence, one the great tasks to persuade them to vote for
:31:30. > :31:32.the SNP. Why not mention it in the literature, this is a chance to win
:31:32. > :31:39.the referendum? The referendum will be in the campaign.
:31:39. > :31:44.The Tories have no hope at all, adding to their solitary Scottish
:31:44. > :31:48.MP, David Wilson has to say otherwise. The two big issues I
:31:48. > :31:53.have found is jobs and independence. As far as that people got a bit of
:31:53. > :31:56.a fright in May with what happened with SNP getting control in
:31:56. > :32:00.Holyrood, people are worried about that. I know people who voted SNP
:32:00. > :32:04.now who have come back to the Conservatives. The Liberal
:32:04. > :32:12.Democrats Sophie Bridger is 20, the youngest by-election candidate from
:32:12. > :32:16.a major party since 1832. But they won't suffer another humiliation
:32:16. > :32:21.like Barnsley, where they came sixth. Simply because there are
:32:21. > :32:24.only five candidates here. We had a disappointing election, a few weeks
:32:24. > :32:27.ago, that is why it is a great opportunity for us. I don't think
:32:27. > :32:29.we managed to get the messages across in the election campaign,
:32:29. > :32:32.previously, what we are really doing in Government in Westminster.
:32:32. > :32:37.That is why this has been such a positive opportunity for to us show
:32:37. > :32:45.that. Hope to be overtake the Liberal
:32:46. > :32:50.Democrats, Mitch Sorbie, he looks like a nightclub owner. It is
:32:50. > :32:55.probably between Labour and the SNP? You might find people with
:32:55. > :32:59.sense voting UKIP. Let's forget that. Let's talk sense, shall we,
:32:59. > :33:04.if it is between Labour and the SNP, surely, who of those two would you
:33:04. > :33:12.say is the front runner here? have to look with 14,000 majority
:33:12. > :33:19.last time, Labour are fairly safe. If I had my spaniel with a Labour
:33:19. > :33:24.rosette, I think my spaniel might get in.
:33:24. > :33:29.We local shipyard, today, the final day of campaigning, Labour rolled
:33:29. > :33:39.out John Prescott. The party's answer to Sheikh Raed Salah.
:33:39. > :33:39.
:33:39. > :33:46.Do you have a sneaking admiration for Sheikh Raed Salah, you and he
:33:46. > :33:51.are like - the party's answer to Alex Salmond. Do you have a
:33:51. > :33:56.sneaking admiration for Alex Salmond? Does Labour need its own
:33:56. > :34:00.Alex Salmond? Labour needs all to fight all sorts of battles. They
:34:00. > :34:06.have to persuasively put the case, I do it my way and they their way,
:34:06. > :34:09.Labour is a combination of all those. People in the Labour and SNP
:34:10. > :34:17.camp think tomorrow's result should be really close. It's likely to be
:34:17. > :34:22.a lot closer than the 14,400 majority bequeathed by the late
:34:22. > :34:26.Labour MP, David Cairns. Even if Ed Miliband's party does crepe home
:34:26. > :34:31.here tomorrow, it doesn't mean an end to Labour's serious problems
:34:31. > :34:38.here in Scotland. Following the trouncing by the SNP, in the
:34:38. > :34:45.Holyrood elections, last month. You what? You don't agree with any
:34:45. > :34:48.of that? I didn't hear it! Andy Murray went through to the
:34:48. > :34:52.semifinals at Wimbledon to the delight of fans. They are providing
:34:52. > :34:55.a rare treat of what counts as a home win. In team sports in
:34:55. > :35:00.particular the advantage of playing at home is taken as read, in the
:35:00. > :35:03.Premier League, for example there are said to be three home wins for
:35:03. > :35:06.two away wins. What is the home advantage. The authors of
:35:06. > :35:12.Scorecasting, a new American book about sports, believe they have
:35:12. > :35:16.worked it out. It is no secret that steams are
:35:16. > :35:20.more likely to win on home turf. Take Chelsea they didn't suffer a
:35:20. > :35:25.single Premier League home defeat for over three years, under Jose
:35:25. > :35:33.Mourinho, but loss ten away games in the same period. And it's true
:35:33. > :35:37.for all team sport. Rugby, cricket, baseball, ice hockey, you name it,
:35:37. > :35:42.there is a definite home advantage. But what is it? Is it the support
:35:42. > :35:47.of the fans? Is it because the home team knows the ground? Is it
:35:47. > :35:51.because they don't have to make the journey to a distant venue. The two
:35:51. > :35:56.Americans say it is none of those things. They conclude that the home
:35:56. > :36:00.advantage is down to one thing and one thing only, the referees, or
:36:00. > :36:05.umpires, as they are known in most American sports. It is not so much
:36:05. > :36:12.that teams play much better at home, as that, for whatever reason,
:36:12. > :36:18.officials want to appease the home crowd. With us now is the sports
:36:18. > :36:25.journalist, Jon Wertheim, one of the authors of Scorecasting, and
:36:25. > :36:30.Prabal Rana, who rather - David Runciman, who rather doubts the
:36:30. > :36:34.methodology. Explain why you think it is the referee? Athletes perform
:36:34. > :36:39.better at home because they are being cheered, that is hard to bear
:36:39. > :36:43.out, there is no evidence that they shoot baskets better. There is very
:36:43. > :36:47.little evidence of performing better at home. What we did find is
:36:48. > :36:51.with officials there is a huge discrepancy, home versus away calls,
:36:51. > :36:56.the bigger the crowd the bigger the discrepancy. It is true in all
:36:56. > :37:00.sports. The closer the game, the closer the discrepancy and the
:37:00. > :37:06.closer the fans are to the action. It is a different data. The
:37:06. > :37:11.official bias is driving the home advantage. You think what happens
:37:11. > :37:15.when Manchester United plays at home, there is something in it?
:37:15. > :37:19.tend to overlook the cases when the referees make a bad decision. They
:37:19. > :37:27.favour the big teams. What is weird about home advantage it is true for
:37:27. > :37:32.all teams, good, bad teams, big and small teams. John has shown
:37:32. > :37:35.referees react to crowds getting on their back. Play in one of the
:37:35. > :37:40.lower Scottish leison your team will do better at home. There is an
:37:40. > :37:45.iron law, it is to do with team not individual sports. My feeling is it
:37:45. > :37:50.is to do with the trust in the team. The referees have a small part to
:37:50. > :37:55.play. Did you look at the possible explanations? We did, the distance
:37:55. > :38:00.travelled, that doesn't turnt out to be the case at all. It is an
:38:00. > :38:05.intriguing thesis, how can one quantify trust. That is pretty hard
:38:05. > :38:09.to study. The issue in a team sport, if you know the official also give
:38:09. > :38:12.you these calls, maybe that increases the trust. This is the
:38:12. > :38:17.method question, because there is a temptation to explain the things,
:38:17. > :38:20.because we can quantify them. There are some things about home
:38:20. > :38:23.advantage that just aren't quantifyable. If you rule those
:38:23. > :38:27.things out you overexplain some of the easier things. In individual
:38:27. > :38:33.sports you can break them down into nuggets and baseball is another
:38:33. > :38:38.example. Then you can get the explanations, football, for such a
:38:38. > :38:43.simple game is mind bobling complex when you break it down. Nobody has
:38:44. > :38:49.done that already. You have alluded toe the fact that this theory
:38:49. > :38:53.asupplies in team sports, not in individual sports. Doesn't that
:38:53. > :38:58.suggest to you there may be something about the idea of the
:38:58. > :39:02.relationship between the team and the fan that is may be at work?
:39:02. > :39:07.Their home games in individual sports, Andy Murray might play at
:39:07. > :39:17.Wimbledon and cheer, it is not a home game like Manchester United
:39:17. > :39:23.playing in their own stadium. another collective effort, where
:39:23. > :39:26.another team game playing mopgs fans? It is hard to study all those
:39:26. > :39:30.impacts. I agree with John, the fans isn't the explanation, it is
:39:30. > :39:34.very hard to measure that. But it could be that it is the familiarity
:39:34. > :39:38.thing, when you are at home, it is your territory, you feel
:39:38. > :39:43.comfortable. Actually, the fact that it applies for teams that
:39:43. > :39:47.don't have many fans as well as teams that have thousands of fans,
:39:47. > :39:51.suggest it is something to do with your ground, not your fans.
:39:52. > :39:56.looked at it as a percentage of capacity, not the number of fans.
:39:57. > :40:01.In Italy there were riots, so the football team played in an empty
:40:01. > :40:08.stadium, they wouldn't let the fans in, there was no crowd there, the
:40:08. > :40:13.official bias went down. The passing and the goals stayed
:40:13. > :40:20.constant. Home advantage disappeared when the crowds
:40:20. > :40:25.disappeared. That could be Italy! Not everything is explainable by
:40:25. > :40:29.statistical analysis. Then you won't write books! There is nearly
:40:29. > :40:33.other variabilitys, but the data on this in every sport there is this
:40:33. > :40:37.difference, there is a discrepancy in penalties and fouls in
:40:37. > :40:41.basketball. That tells us there is something going on. It is true, the
:40:41. > :40:48.referees are clearly biased, the question is that what decides what
:40:48. > :40:52.wins the game, he hasn't shown that. This sort of analysis is increase
:40:52. > :40:58.league common. For economics and a view of the world. That human
:40:58. > :41:02.behaviour is down to statistical analysis. What is wrong with it?
:41:02. > :41:05.You can go too far, what you can end up is looking for the
:41:05. > :41:09.explanation that is fit the numbers, that means you leave out all sorts
:41:09. > :41:13.of things, it doesn't mean we should trust our eyes but have a
:41:13. > :41:18.broader view that could explain things than what is logistically
:41:18. > :41:23.analysing. I will see it when I believe it. I think the other thing.
:41:23. > :41:27.He's essentially saying there are things beyond science? Absolutely.
:41:27. > :41:32.Beyond economics? I think in the last ten years between the Internet,
:41:32. > :41:37.I think we have had this prove live racial of data, it is foolish not
:41:37. > :41:40.to - proliferation of data, it is foolish not to look into it. It is
:41:40. > :41:50.wrong to assume it explains everything, it explains a lot more
:41:50. > :41:51.
:41:51. > :41:57.than we thought, not everything. What are the other things that we
:41:57. > :42:02.ought to be fact torg in. Things like trust and team spirit, home
:42:02. > :42:09.advantage is an iron law, it is an amazing thing, home advantage,
:42:09. > :42:13.whoever they are, it applies. Something about being in a team is
:42:13. > :42:18.hard to explain it unless you are in one. In the US, the ultimate
:42:18. > :42:26.team sport is football. All these military analogies. American
:42:26. > :42:31.football. Sorry, American football, NFL, it doesn't have a high winning
:42:31. > :42:36.statistic, where as basketball can have a much more advantage? It is
:42:36. > :42:41.about a team sport, passing continuing sequences of play,
:42:41. > :42:44.sports like American football break down the sequences and the trust is
:42:44. > :42:49.dissipated. It is football, basketball, where the game flows.
:42:49. > :42:53.It is the game that is flow have team advantage. While you are both
:42:53. > :43:00.here, you are here specifically to go to Wimbledon, will Andy Murray
:43:00. > :43:04.take the home title? He's the home player.
:43:04. > :43:14.We will see what happens, he has two tough matches left. Thank you
:43:14. > :43:14.
:43:14. > :43:57.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 42 seconds
:43:57. > :44:01.both very much. Now tomorrow That's enough for now. Since we
:44:01. > :44:06.have been on air, Richard Burton has been in touch, he wanted to
:44:06. > :44:11.make clear he was due to speak rat a meeting in Westminster with
:44:11. > :44:16.Sheikh Raed Salah, - speaking at a meeting with Sheikh Raed Salah, but
:44:16. > :44:26.he wasn't involved with him. Tomorrow we have the most famous
:44:26. > :44:51.
:44:51. > :44:55.person to come out of Dumfries, Pretty whily outside tonight with
:44:55. > :44:58.largely clear skies. Another day where the sun will shine in most
:44:59. > :45:03.places. There will also be a fair few showers to chase around.
:45:03. > :45:06.Particularly by the afternoon, across parts of north-east England.
:45:06. > :45:10.Intense downpours, east and South Yorkshire as well as Lincolnshire,
:45:10. > :45:15.with the risk of a flash of lightning and a rumble of thunder.
:45:15. > :45:19.The showers will be lighter and scattered across the south-east.
:45:19. > :45:22.The south west of England will see showers mostly in the morning, by
:45:22. > :45:26.the afternoon, many places here fine and bright with spells of
:45:26. > :45:31.sunshine. The same goes across Wales. Some showers in the morning,
:45:31. > :45:35.most places having a fine end to the day. Scattering of thours will
:45:35. > :45:41.come and go through Northern Ireland. Temperatures still likely
:45:41. > :45:46.to reach the high teens. Showers in Scotland, dying out in the Glasgow
:45:46. > :45:51.area. For eastern Scotland heavy showers for the afternoon. There is
:45:51. > :45:54.still a chance for showers on Friday, a dry and fine day.
:45:54. > :45:58.Temperature as degree or so higher. Still some cloud bubbling up
:45:58. > :46:03.through the day, still the small chance of a shower or two across