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:00:08. > :00:11.Tonight, Newsnight learns that America is considering a plan to

:00:11. > :00:14.enter Pakistan in the country's nuclear material should be in

:00:14. > :00:19.danger of falling into terrorist hands.

:00:19. > :00:25.The US Government is very concerned about the possibility that nuclear

:00:25. > :00:28.weapons can be lost in Pakistan as a result of the Pakistani society

:00:28. > :00:32.falling apart. Pakistan's High Commisioner will tell us what he

:00:32. > :00:36.makes of that. We will ask him why relations between Islamabad and

:00:36. > :00:42.Washington seem to be so bad. In New York, Dominique Strauss-Khan

:00:42. > :00:49.is freed from house arrest, but he still faces a lengthy charge sheet.

:00:49. > :00:54.The only defence that Dominique Strauss-Khan has s that this sexual

:00:54. > :00:58.encounter was consensual. That is a lie.

:00:58. > :01:02.One of America's top lawyers assess whether the case against him is

:01:02. > :01:07.falling apart. Andy Murray says Scottish for

:01:07. > :01:15.another year, will he ever make it to the Wimbledon final, Tim Henman

:01:15. > :01:20.gives Newsnight his verdict. Good evening. Newsnight has

:01:20. > :01:23.discovered that the United States is so concerned about security in

:01:23. > :01:29.Pakistan, that worst case scenario plans are being discussed to enter

:01:29. > :01:33.the country to stop extremists getting hold of nuclear material.

:01:33. > :01:36.Following their success with Osama Bin Laden a mission carried out

:01:36. > :01:39.without Islamabad knowledge, we are told the Americans are once again

:01:39. > :01:42.warm to go the idea of a pre- emptive operation to stop

:01:42. > :01:49.terrorists in their tracks. Relations between the two countries

:01:49. > :01:53.seem to be close to an all-time-low. Just this week Pakistan stopped

:01:53. > :01:59.drone flights from a base, and ordered US personnel to leave. In a

:01:59. > :02:03.moment we will speak to Pakistan's High Commisioner to London.

:02:03. > :02:07.First Richard Watson reports. Pakistan might yet prove to be the

:02:07. > :02:13.major challenge in the so-called war on terror. The rising

:02:13. > :02:16.confidence of extremist groups, in a constricting democratic space, is

:02:16. > :02:21.making observers extremely nervous, especially as the country is home

:02:21. > :02:26.to what the Jihadist like to call, the Islamic bomb. The last time the

:02:26. > :02:33.world go so jittery about nuclear security in Pakistan was nearly -

:02:33. > :02:36.got to jittery about nuclear security in Pakistan was after the

:02:36. > :02:41.9/11 attacks. Newsnight has been told these plans are coming to the

:02:41. > :02:45.fore once again, as the west contemplate as country fast

:02:45. > :02:49.expanding its nuclear arsenal, at a time of acute weakness. As one

:02:49. > :02:53.security source said tonight, it is a volatile mix.

:02:53. > :02:57.These are the images behind the latest attack of nerves. A naval

:02:57. > :03:03.base near Karachi, attacked and occupied in May by a band of

:03:03. > :03:07.heavily armed insurgents. They destroyed two US-made spy planes in

:03:07. > :03:10.a well-executed operation, which is believed to have received support

:03:10. > :03:15.from elements within Pakistan's Armed Forces. The American author

:03:15. > :03:19.of a new report published today, which charts nuclear proliferation,

:03:19. > :03:22.is worried. The raid on that particular facility was unique n a

:03:22. > :03:29.sense, in that it was the first time an organised group was able to

:03:29. > :03:34.get inside to a heavily armed military facility, and move around

:03:34. > :03:42.inside, and conduct devastating attacks against elements of the

:03:42. > :03:46.facility. In this case they particularly went, of course, after

:03:47. > :03:51.US supplied P3 maritime surveillance aircraft.

:03:51. > :03:58.Pakistan's nuclear assets are spread across the country. Partly

:03:58. > :04:01.for defensive reasons. Open source research reports and information we

:04:01. > :04:11.obtained to an overseas intelligence source leads to this

:04:11. > :04:12.

:04:12. > :04:18.map. Nuclear reactors. Uranium enrichment at these sites.

:04:18. > :04:22.Plutonium reprocessing at Rawalpindi and Chasma. Crucially it

:04:22. > :04:26.has assessed there are weaponisation programmes at Wah,

:04:26. > :04:34.and close to where Osama Bin Laden was based. There are now believed

:04:34. > :04:42.Are they secure? Extremists are said to have taked three nuclear

:04:42. > :04:49.sites in the past five years. able to find at least three

:04:49. > :04:54.instances of attacks against the, again, allegedly, or supposedly,

:04:54. > :04:58.secured, military-related facilities. This extends back over

:04:58. > :05:02.the past, probably three or four years i can recall one against what

:05:02. > :05:07.we would call a missile storage site a few years back. I don't

:05:07. > :05:14.think the attack was wholly successful, but again, what it

:05:14. > :05:20.indicates is a level of brazenness, and perhaps even sophistication, in

:05:20. > :05:29.the fact that these kind of attacks can be co-ordinated by extremists

:05:29. > :05:38.in country. Al-Qaeda's leaders have long harboured to obtain and

:05:38. > :05:44.detonate a nuclear device. Al-Zawahiri said he would travel to

:05:44. > :05:51.Daghestan in 1998, a repute the source of ex-society nuclear

:05:51. > :05:54.weapons, says an Al-Qaeda insider. He told me there was an

:05:54. > :05:59.investigation of the environment, the possibility of getting the

:05:59. > :06:03.weapon itself, weapons of mass destruction, or the material, which

:06:03. > :06:08.might help Al-Qaeda to build their own plant. He was arrested for six

:06:08. > :06:13.months, it is fact, without a doubt. Why go to former Soviet Republic,

:06:13. > :06:16.if weapons or radioactive material for a so-called dirty bomb can be

:06:16. > :06:21.procured from inside Pakistan. Islamist groups have targtded the

:06:21. > :06:26.Armed Forces with this in mind. there are people inside the

:06:27. > :06:31.military command structure, that is in charge of these weapons, that

:06:31. > :06:35.are sympathetic to extremists and under the right circumstances could

:06:35. > :06:40.take action and either enable people from outside to get in,

:06:40. > :06:44.where they otherwise wouldn't be able to get in, or simply divert,

:06:44. > :06:49.by using a unit, try to divert some weapons during a crisis or

:06:49. > :06:53.something like that. The Pakistani army has

:06:53. > :06:57.internationally agreed safety protocols designed to protect their

:06:57. > :07:00.nuclear assets. Warheads and detonators are stored separately

:07:00. > :07:04.there are security codes, with inside help, anything might be

:07:04. > :07:08.possible, it is feared. There is no question America is extremely

:07:08. > :07:11.concerned about the nuclear sites inside Pakistan. There are

:07:11. > :07:14.certainly contingency plans that have been made by the Americans,

:07:14. > :07:20.probably involving British elements, to oversee those sites and in the

:07:20. > :07:25.event of their falling into the wrong hands, to intervene. So what

:07:25. > :07:28.would a plan look like? We asked a former CIA nuclear proliferation

:07:28. > :07:32.expert and former adviser to the Clinton administration? Governments

:07:32. > :07:36.aren't thinking about how they wo respond, you know, they are not

:07:36. > :07:41.preparing and they are not doing their job if they don't. It would

:07:41. > :07:46.be an operation both from those who would try to remove materials and

:07:46. > :07:52.those who might respond, of such complexity, that we are almost

:07:52. > :07:57.entering into unchartered territory. Again, we are on the extreme edges

:07:57. > :08:01.of the real, I hope. There was a particular effort under what was

:08:01. > :08:09.known as the global strike programme, which is, of course,

:08:09. > :08:13.part of the US strategic command's plan to go out and take out WMD

:08:14. > :08:17.facilities or facilities on a global scale. It is a global

:08:17. > :08:21.programme in how far it is in Pakistan and in terms of real plans

:08:21. > :08:25.I have no way of knowing. Some Pakistan watchers believe raising

:08:25. > :08:30.nuclear security now is deliberately provocative, at a time

:08:30. > :08:33.when relations are so tense. Any plan to go in would be a disaster?

:08:33. > :08:37.This is not a Bin Laden raid, this is for them, something far, far

:08:37. > :08:40.bigger and more serious. If the US were foolish enough to do this,

:08:40. > :08:44.they would be setting a precedent, for example, with Israel, would

:08:44. > :08:50.there be anything to stop Israel going and attacking Iran. It is a

:08:50. > :08:58.very dangerous precedent to set. The west wants to see tough action

:08:58. > :09:03.inside Pakistan. The arrests of an army Brigadier for alleged

:09:03. > :09:06.extremist links, was made public, an encouraging sign at a time of

:09:06. > :09:10.tension. Watching that with us the Pakistan

:09:10. > :09:17.High Commisioner in London, Wajid Shamsul Hasan. Good evening. Good

:09:17. > :09:26.evening. How safe are your nuclear weapons' facilities? Well, I'm not

:09:26. > :09:33.a professional nuclear expert, number one, but whatever little I

:09:33. > :09:40.know about it is that IEA, NATO, Americans, CIA, and other

:09:41. > :09:46.organisations, has certified that Pakistan nuclear weapons are in

:09:46. > :09:51.safe hands, they are secure, they are not easily accessible. But, the

:09:51. > :09:57.IEA is talking about obviously your nuclear facility for power. You are

:09:57. > :10:02.telling me the CIA say they are happy with the weapons facilities

:10:02. > :10:07.about the country? Even NATO has said they are satisfied with

:10:07. > :10:11.Pakistan's security measures. by the reckoning, you have 90-100

:10:11. > :10:18.warheads at the moment, you are adding 10-15 each year? You are

:10:18. > :10:24.telling me the figure, I don't know. That is the sources. That is like a

:10:24. > :10:29.Hollywood fictional script. Is it like a fictional script? The

:10:29. > :10:33.Jihadis talk about the Pakistani bomb. You say Pakistani bomb, not

:10:33. > :10:38.Islamic bomb. They say the, the Jihadis say. They say so many

:10:38. > :10:42.things. You don't have to take them seriously. But, you would have

:10:42. > :10:46.heard Mr Christianson saying that the measures that Pakistan has

:10:46. > :10:49.taken are unclear. He, afterall, is the director of the nuclear

:10:49. > :10:54.information project, he says the measures you have taken to secure

:10:54. > :11:00.these areas are unclear, and that is what is making the Americans so

:11:00. > :11:08.jittery. The IEA has been there, the watchdog authority on nuclear

:11:08. > :11:11.things, it has certified that Pakistan is safe. So we cannot

:11:11. > :11:15.dispute that. We don't know who the people they are, what sort of

:11:15. > :11:21.condition they have, but when the IEA say that we don't believe it.

:11:21. > :11:27.It is very strange. But there is evidence of insecurity, because you

:11:27. > :11:31.have the attack on the Karachi naval bai, and also the unmasking

:11:31. > :11:41.of the Brigadier, openly talked about, who had extremist links.

:11:41. > :11:43.

:11:43. > :11:48.There is an insecurity in your security forces? My simple answer

:11:48. > :11:53.would be what about 9/11, Pentagon, they could be attacked, any place

:11:53. > :11:56.could be attacked. Mumbai, despite security was attacked, Sharm El-

:11:56. > :12:00.Sheikh, despite all intelligence presence there, it was attacked.

:12:00. > :12:04.Bali was attacked. So many other places were attacked by these

:12:04. > :12:11.terrorists. But you are saying, you are saying that actually all your

:12:11. > :12:16.nuclear weapons are stored safe and sound, and after the raid on Osama

:12:16. > :12:20.Bin Laden, of course, which was a great success in the American eyes,

:12:20. > :12:23.and indeed in Pakistan's eyes, although they were horrified not to

:12:23. > :12:28.be involved. The Americans feel emboldened by that, it would seem

:12:28. > :12:34.if they think that there is a problem, they are prepared to take

:12:34. > :12:38.pre-emptive unilateral action. Americans did take pre-emptive

:12:38. > :12:43.unilateral action against Osama, and they got him. I'm sure they

:12:43. > :12:48.must be regreting it now, that they should have informed Pakistan, but

:12:48. > :12:53.since there was a time lag and they didn't inform. The thing is, it is

:12:53. > :12:57.all talk. They are planning to attack, they are doing this and

:12:58. > :13:03.that. Our relations have worsened, our relations have not woreened. To

:13:03. > :13:07.that extent, as to call it bad. Hillary Clinton was visiting

:13:07. > :13:13.Pakistan and she was happy and satisfied with what was happening.

:13:13. > :13:18.Even when President Obama was here, and when he was talking with Prime

:13:18. > :13:21.Minister Cameron, and Prime Minister Cameron said it very

:13:21. > :13:24.clearly, the enemy of Pakistan is our enemy, and this afternoon when

:13:24. > :13:28.the President of Pakistan was meeting him, he said Pakistan's

:13:28. > :13:32.future is Britain's future. Pakistan's future is Britain's

:13:32. > :13:36.future, and therefore, security is one of the most important issues.

:13:36. > :13:40.So if the Americans were to move in and take pre-emptive action on

:13:40. > :13:48.sites they have identified, and our sources say these plans are in

:13:49. > :13:53.place. What would Pakistan's reaction be? Again, you are a very

:13:53. > :13:58.hypothetical in your questioning, it doesn't have any sound basis.

:13:58. > :14:02.The Americans planning to do this, and the Americans wouldn't do that.

:14:02. > :14:07.They did do it with Osama Bin Laden? Let me tell you, if I were

:14:07. > :14:15.to see him, or any Pakistani, with so much money on his head, they

:14:15. > :14:20.would have killed him. So Osama was a known tart. These national assets

:14:20. > :14:24.will be protected by each and every Pakistani, including the Armed

:14:24. > :14:27.Forces. Like at Shamzi now, the Government in Islamabad has ordered

:14:27. > :14:32.the Americans to stop the drone flights and American personnel to

:14:33. > :14:37.get out. That is not a signal of good relations, is it? Again it is

:14:37. > :14:42.a Misper exception. Americans have themselves said they never flew

:14:42. > :14:48.their drones from Pakistani territory. They have proved it time

:14:48. > :14:51.and again, and said it time and again, and they have not done that.

:14:51. > :14:56.But you want American personnel out of that area? We want the Americans

:14:56. > :15:01.to give us drones so we should use them, instead of our space being

:15:01. > :15:05.used by them. High Commisioner thank you very much indeed.

:15:05. > :15:09.Today there were dramatic scenes inside and outside a Manhattan

:15:09. > :15:12.courtroom, as the former IMF chief, Dominique Strauss-Khan, was

:15:12. > :15:17.released from house arrest, but ordered to remain in the country

:15:17. > :15:22.for another hearing on July 18th. He still face seven serious charges

:15:22. > :15:26.over the alleged attack on a hotel maid in New York. But the judge

:15:26. > :15:29.said he understood the circumstances of the case had

:15:30. > :15:36.changed substantially, now Strauss- Khan's supporters in France have

:15:36. > :15:40.been given fresh hope of an improbable comeback. Could he still

:15:40. > :15:43.with the socialist presidential candidate. It has been an

:15:43. > :15:47.extraordinary day? Absolutely. Everyone thought this would be the

:15:47. > :15:51.centre of the cautious we thought all of the charges would be dropped.

:15:51. > :15:55.They haven't been. Why was that? was because of a report in the New

:15:55. > :15:57.York Times. They reported two law enforcement officers, as they say

:15:58. > :16:01.they were, they were saying there were flaws in the witnesses

:16:01. > :16:04.statement. She claims that after she was allegedly raped she went

:16:04. > :16:08.and reported it straight away. There is evidence to suggest she

:16:08. > :16:12.didn't, she went and cleaned another room and took her time to

:16:12. > :16:16.report it. They also say she lied on her asylum claims, her

:16:16. > :16:20.credibility is not what it was. You can see why Dominique Strauss-Khan

:16:20. > :16:24.woke up this morning thinking he might be a man who was in a

:16:24. > :16:28.slightly better place than he was six weeks ago. We saw pictures of

:16:28. > :16:32.him in court, you can see his whole demeanor is different to what it

:16:32. > :16:37.was, he's there with his wife. They both look, not chipper, but calm,

:16:37. > :16:39.and they look relaxed. There is a bit of a swagger about Dominique

:16:39. > :16:43.Strauss-Khan? Something like a smirk there, not the pictures we

:16:43. > :16:53.have seen in the past of him, he looked nothing like that. Cast your

:16:53. > :16:53.

:16:53. > :16:58.mind back to six weeks ago, here he is in the dock, jouly, heavy lided,

:16:58. > :17:08.tired. These are the pictures beamed across the world, a guilty

:17:08. > :17:11.

:17:11. > :17:16.man. A different picture. This Case has been studded with dramatic, we

:17:16. > :17:22.have the lawyer, who represents P Diddy and other superstars, is a

:17:22. > :17:27.star in his own right, this is his statement saying the case was

:17:27. > :17:31.almost over. We asked the public not to rush to judgment, now you

:17:31. > :17:35.can see why. We believed from the start this case was not what it

:17:35. > :17:38.appeared to be. We are convinced that today is the first giant step

:17:38. > :17:42.in the right direction, the next step will lead to a complete

:17:42. > :17:45.dismissal of the charges. He hopes, but, of course, what

:17:46. > :17:50.actually has changed today? only thing that has changed today

:17:50. > :17:53.is the bail conditions. He still is facing these charges. We have

:17:53. > :17:57.Benjamin Brafman there saying his client's in the clear, on the other

:17:57. > :18:00.side we have the alleged victim's representatives saying he's

:18:00. > :18:04.absolutely not. The scene that followed Benjamin Brafman's

:18:04. > :18:08.statement here were quite extraordinary, we saw her

:18:08. > :18:12.representative using the most lurid, explicit and aggressive language to

:18:12. > :18:15.describe exactly what he thought had happened, saying this was not

:18:15. > :18:19.consensual. Some people might find this quite offensive, this shows

:18:19. > :18:24.you what was going on outside the court today. He grabbed her vagina

:18:24. > :18:30.with so much force that he bruised her vagina. When she went to the

:18:30. > :18:34.hospital later that day, the nurses who examined her saw the bruises on

:18:35. > :18:39.her vagina that were caused by Dominique Strauss-Khan's hand. They

:18:39. > :18:43.took pictures of the bruises on her vagina, and the District Attorney

:18:43. > :18:47.has those pictures. That is language that is designed to shock.

:18:47. > :18:50.I have never heard anything like that outside any court anywhere in

:18:50. > :18:55.the world. That is specifically designed to make an impact, this is

:18:55. > :18:58.lunchtime in the US, going out on the networks over there, quite

:18:58. > :19:04.unprecedented. You have to question the motivation behind that kind of

:19:04. > :19:06.performance. In France, there is all this talk about a possible

:19:06. > :19:09.comeback for Dominique Strauss-Khan as the socialist presidential

:19:09. > :19:14.candidate? This morning there was even talk that he could be the

:19:14. > :19:18.President of France. We have got the primaries closing on the 13th,

:19:18. > :19:21.he's due back in Manhattan five days later, it is certainly not

:19:22. > :19:26.looking good. Yes, it has been a slightly better day for him, but he

:19:26. > :19:29.still wakes up tomorrow, although he's not under house arrest, he is

:19:29. > :19:38.still facing seven serious charges here, he's not anywhere near in the

:19:38. > :19:42.clear yet. Joining us from Martha's Vineyard,

:19:42. > :19:46.is distinguished lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, and Dominique Strauss-

:19:46. > :19:51.Khan's biographer. First of all, Alan Dershowitz, what

:19:51. > :19:56.is the dynamic of this case now? This case is over. There is only

:19:56. > :20:00.the technicality of when it will be dismissed. Nobody knows, nobody

:20:00. > :20:03.will ever know what happened in that hotel room, what we do know is

:20:03. > :20:08.that the witness simply doesn't have the kind of credibility

:20:08. > :20:12.required to make a case beyond a reasonable doubt. She has allegedly

:20:12. > :20:15.lied about previously being raped, she has allegedly lied on her

:20:15. > :20:19.application for amnesty. She will be lucky if she's not deported at

:20:19. > :20:22.the end of this matter. She came into the case hoping perhaps to

:20:22. > :20:28.come away with several million dollars, she will be very fortunate

:20:28. > :20:33.if she comes awhich with the status quo preserved. This is a very good

:20:33. > :20:38.day for the defendant and justice in America. The prosecution came

:20:38. > :20:42.forward and produced the conclusions of the investigation

:20:42. > :20:47.and made it clear this case is a weak one. The weakness of the

:20:47. > :20:51.American system is it has the perp walk, in which it presents the

:20:51. > :20:56.defendant as guilty, it withholds the name of the victim, which

:20:56. > :20:59.suggests that she is a real victim and that the defendant is guilty,

:20:59. > :21:03.it undercuts the presumption of innocence. It will cause many

:21:03. > :21:07.Americans to re-think how we prosecute cases of this kind.

:21:07. > :21:15.charges are serious charges, still standing of tonight, and Dominique

:21:15. > :21:21.Strauss-Khan is still due in court on the 18th of July? These charges

:21:21. > :21:24.will stand, and he remain as defendant, but I think anybody who

:21:24. > :21:29.has any understanding of the American criminal justice system

:21:29. > :21:34.has to say, unless some miraculous new evidence will come forward, I

:21:34. > :21:40.can't imagine what that will be, short of a video tape, no

:21:40. > :21:43.prosecutor will want to vouch for the victim's credibility, and say

:21:43. > :21:49.ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a witness we are asking you

:21:49. > :21:51.to believe on the basis of her word and put someone in jail for a long

:21:51. > :21:54.time. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt requires more credibility

:21:54. > :21:59.than this witness is prepared to present. This creates a terrible

:21:59. > :22:03.problem, it means that sometimes women who are actually raped but

:22:04. > :22:08.who have terrible backgrounds, backgrounds of criminality or lack

:22:08. > :22:14.of credibility, cannot get justice. That's why we say better ten guilty

:22:14. > :22:19.people go free than one innocent person be wrongly convicted. This

:22:19. > :22:23.may be a case that fits that description, nobody will know for

:22:23. > :22:26.sure. What do you make of it, from a legal point of view, we may never

:22:26. > :22:31.know what happened in that bedroom, we may never know what Dominique

:22:31. > :22:34.Strauss-Khan actually did, but because this witness has changed

:22:34. > :22:40.her story, we will never maybe know. Dominique Strauss-Khan, in a sense,

:22:40. > :22:46.will he ever be free of this, if he is actually acquitted, or if the

:22:46. > :22:50.case falls? You know, I'm not a friend of Strauss strau, I'm just a

:22:50. > :22:54.journalist, just a journalist who did - Dominique Strauss-Khan, I'm

:22:54. > :22:58.just a journalist who did his work. During the work, during my

:22:58. > :23:04.investigations of more than two years for writing this book, the

:23:04. > :23:12.biography of Dominique Strauss-Khan, that is called The True Story of

:23:12. > :23:17.Strauss-Khan strau, I have met more than 60 people, his political

:23:17. > :23:21.enemies and friends, his first wife, his actual woif. I twelve his

:23:21. > :23:26.political story - wife, I twelve his political story and also in

:23:26. > :23:32.this book about his relations with women. Why do I talk about this

:23:32. > :23:38.question, it is because in France there were a lot of rumour about

:23:38. > :23:43.his attitude with women. My conviction, not a personal

:23:43. > :23:52.conviction, but a conviction after a big work about his life, after

:23:52. > :23:59.having met a lot of people, is that this man is a typical French lover,

:23:59. > :24:06.he's a great seducer, but completely unable to do any

:24:06. > :24:13.violence, any act of violence against a woman. We don't...I

:24:13. > :24:19.that before May 14th, I say that after May 14th, and today I don't

:24:19. > :24:24.change my words, you know. I don't change my mind. But, Alan

:24:25. > :24:28.Dershowitz, on that point, let's pick up on that, there is Dominique

:24:28. > :24:31.Strauss-Khan's biographer, let's be clear about this, in a situation of

:24:31. > :24:37.power, we never know, as you say what happens behind that bedroom

:24:37. > :24:41.door, and as you say, we may never know what actually happened,

:24:41. > :24:46.therefore, how do you think the frenzy around this case in America,

:24:46. > :24:50.will go on from this now. What do you think people's view of

:24:50. > :24:54.Dominique Strauss-Khan will be? think he will be viewed the way

:24:54. > :24:58.many defendants are viewed, when their cases are dismissed, the

:24:58. > :25:03.court of public opinion and the court of history, often makes

:25:03. > :25:09.different judgments from a court of law, in the court of law the burden

:25:09. > :25:13.of proof is very, very high, for historians, for journalist, the

:25:14. > :25:17.burden of proof is some what lower, people can come away concluding

:25:17. > :25:20.that we don't approve of the conduct that we believe this man

:25:20. > :25:24.engaged in, but there was insufficient evidence to convict

:25:24. > :25:27.him of a crime. Some people may come away thinking he was

:25:27. > :25:32.absolutely innocent, perhaps even framed, there is no real evidence

:25:32. > :25:36.there was a set up here. But perhaps that this woman took

:25:36. > :25:41.advantage of the situation, considering her background, and

:25:41. > :25:45.he's the real victim. It will end up being a mixed picture. I would

:25:45. > :25:50.hope that since there is not sufficient evidence to conclude he

:25:50. > :25:55.is a criminal, that the presumption of innocence will apply. He will be

:25:55. > :26:04.able to go back to life as normal. He will always be kind of

:26:04. > :26:07.representative of this problem of how do you prosecute "he said/she

:26:07. > :26:11.said" rape cases that happen in a room. This is one of the most

:26:11. > :26:16.difficult and daunting challenges our legal system faces today. I

:26:16. > :26:19.think Americans have learned a lesson from this, don't jump to

:26:19. > :26:24.conclusion, don't conclude a person is guilty before all the evidence

:26:24. > :26:30.is there. Sorry to interrupt, I will put one point there, go back

:26:30. > :26:39.to life as it is, is what might happen. Life as it is, is that the

:26:39. > :26:42.possibility of the reemergesence of reemergence of Dominique Strauss-

:26:42. > :26:45.Khan, even as the socialist candidate for President? What I

:26:45. > :26:50.have always said since the beginning of the scandal is that

:26:50. > :27:00.the main problem for Dominique Strauss-Khan was the judiciary

:27:00. > :27:01.

:27:01. > :27:07.problem. But in the case of, if this judiciary problem is finished,

:27:07. > :27:15.is over, as there is no reason that Dominique Strauss-Khan cannot come

:27:15. > :27:20.back to French policy, and now the decision, the decision belongs to

:27:20. > :27:26.himself and to his wife and family. You know he has suffered a lot in

:27:26. > :27:30.this situation, and there is no reason for not to come back, but it

:27:30. > :27:35.is his own personal decision. Thank you very much, we are out of

:27:35. > :27:39.time. At 7.45 this evening, Andy Murray's hopes of playing in the

:27:39. > :27:44.Wimbledon final were dashed, as he was defeated for the 12th time in

:27:44. > :27:49.his career by the champion, Rafael Nadal. After winning a blistering

:27:49. > :27:56.first set, the momentum went away very suddenly, when mid-way through

:27:56. > :28:06.the second, he sent a forehand back beyond Nadal's line, from this

:28:06. > :28:16.

:28:16. > :28:20.Nadal looked the more confident Well earlier I asked four-times

:28:20. > :28:24.Wimbledon semifinalists Tim Henman whether the problems for Murray was

:28:24. > :28:32.all psychological, is it that he hadn't prepared for a moment like

:28:32. > :28:36.that when he he couldn't get over? He played faultless tennis up until

:28:36. > :28:40.then. My disappointment for the match thank moment in time is it

:28:40. > :28:43.really took Murray quite a long time to regroup. I think if the

:28:43. > :28:48.roles had been reversed and Nadal had been up a set and had those

:28:48. > :28:53.opportunities and hadn't taken it, then perhaps he would have had a

:28:53. > :28:57.few hiccups for a couple of minutes, where as with Murray, unfortunately

:28:57. > :29:04.it lasted seven games N that moment in time, through that period, Nadal

:29:04. > :29:09.raised his game, and then once you give him an opportunity, his level

:29:09. > :29:13.was phenomenal. John McEnroe's analysis is Murray don't get angry

:29:13. > :29:17.enough. Ironically we have seen him angry in the past. You were in

:29:17. > :29:21.semifinals in the past, maybe there is a thing you don't get angry

:29:21. > :29:25.enough. You just don't psyche yourselves up hard enough, do you

:29:25. > :29:30.see that in Murray? No, not at all. I look at the semifinals and I

:29:30. > :29:39.would say that probably was pblt good enough, I lost to Sampras

:29:39. > :29:44.twice, Hewitt was world number one, and Ivanisavic in a Vicky three-day

:29:44. > :29:50.match. There is - a tricky three- day match. There is all this talk

:29:50. > :29:53.about Murray and being in control with his emotions and he hasn't had

:29:53. > :29:57.all the problems on the court, and now everyone is saying he needs to

:29:57. > :30:01.get angry again. It is a fine line. Murray is doubtless, he's

:30:01. > :30:07.physically much, much stronger, he's in much better shape in that

:30:07. > :30:11.way,'s changed trainers, there is been a bit of churn, has that been

:30:11. > :30:14.an issue? No, you are making a comparison with Murray and one of

:30:14. > :30:18.the best, the number one player in the world today, and who is going

:30:18. > :30:23.to go down as one of the best players in history. Nadal has won

:30:23. > :30:27.ten slam, and Murray's game is still exceptional. He's four in the

:30:27. > :30:30.world for a reason. You don't get to that level without being a very

:30:30. > :30:34.good player. And the exciting thing is that he can get better. And he

:30:34. > :30:39.needs to get better if he's going to win these majors, because the

:30:39. > :30:47.rather that he's in is probably the tough Esther ra ever.

:30:47. > :30:52.Next year. That - toughest era ever. On Monday, Jeremy will be here with