:00:08. > :00:13.Tonight a truly British network. The Transport Secretary on high-
:00:13. > :00:17.speed rail. HS2, no thank you.
:00:17. > :00:22.Not everyone is rejoicing at plans to boost the economy by spending
:00:23. > :00:27.�33 billion on a rail link from London to Birmingham and beyond.
:00:27. > :00:32.The upset of having one's house taken away from one, without any
:00:32. > :00:36.say so. How could you not care about that. We will debate whether
:00:36. > :00:40.the money might be better spent elsewhere, as the transport
:00:40. > :00:44.minister faces critics of the project. Also tonight: I'm very
:00:44. > :00:47.confident they will make a decision in the best interests the future of
:00:47. > :00:50.Scotland. Scotland's First Minister calls the timing of a referendum on
:00:50. > :00:54.independence. We will ask the Scottish Secretary if he has other
:00:54. > :00:59.ideas. Moon while, in Westminster: We are on the river for Ed
:01:00. > :01:04.Milliband's new year, new speech. Just don't use the word "relaunch ".
:01:04. > :01:07.Ed Milliband recognises there are difficult economic choices ahead, a
:01:07. > :01:13.Shadow Cabinet minister explains whether this is leaderership or
:01:13. > :01:21.followership. And who is going to be the man to challenge Barack
:01:21. > :01:26.Obama. Bonjour, je m' appelle Mitt Romney. Many voters dislike Mitt
:01:26. > :01:32.Romney, but he may emerge as the last man standing. We will hear
:01:32. > :01:37.from one of his more surprising supporters.
:01:37. > :01:40.From the time of the first Roman roads, major transportation
:01:40. > :01:44.projects have had huge economic, political and social and economic
:01:44. > :01:49.consequences. The going ahead with the HS2, the high-speed rail link
:01:49. > :01:53.from London in order warts, the Government is putting taxpayer
:01:53. > :01:57.billions to linking the south-east with the Midlands and eventually
:01:57. > :02:01.the north. Talks with the Scottish Government are promiseded. Critics
:02:01. > :02:04.say the money would be better spent on other things. We will explore
:02:04. > :02:12.that argument in a moment. The project today was called by
:02:12. > :02:16.some a white elephant, and by the Government, a truly British network.
:02:16. > :02:18.When the first-ever railway lines were built in the 1820s, the
:02:18. > :02:22.reaction of the people was described as fear and fascination.
:02:22. > :02:26.Now the subject of a new exhibition in the National Railway You museum,
:02:26. > :02:31.what was described then as the ruination of the countryside,
:02:31. > :02:38.became a permanent part of Britain's landscape.
:02:38. > :02:40.200 years later, as the Government finally enforces the country's
:02:40. > :02:43.biggest-ever infrastructure endeavour. Still plenty of
:02:43. > :02:49.fascination and plenty fear. could have gone for the short-term
:02:49. > :02:55.option, rely on a patch and mend approach, loaf our railway networks
:02:55. > :02:58.overstretch, overburdened -- leave our railway networks overstretch,
:02:58. > :03:03.overburdened and overresilient. The price of that would have been paid
:03:03. > :03:09.in lost business, lower growth, fewer jobs and more misery for
:03:09. > :03:13.passengers on a network that could not cope with the capacity.
:03:13. > :03:19.When built, high-speed 2 will depart from a beefed up Euston
:03:19. > :03:23.Station in London, and then head to a newer station in Birmingham,
:03:23. > :03:27.taking 45 minutes. All going to plan will be built in 2026. Phase
:03:27. > :03:32.two will see trains heading to man chester, and cutting the journey to
:03:32. > :03:37.one hour and eight minutes. Another spur will travel to Leeds, where a
:03:37. > :03:47.journey to the capital could be cut to an hour-and-a-half. Phase two is
:03:47. > :03:53.pencilled in for completion by 2033. HS2, no thank you. What is designed
:03:53. > :03:57.by architects in London, has a real impact elsewhere, especially in the
:03:57. > :04:04.illusion greenle valleys in the Chilterns, home to the safest Tory
:04:04. > :04:10.seats in Christendom, and hope to the most vociferous opponents.
:04:10. > :04:15.This is the leader of Chiltern district council, and a member of
:04:15. > :04:18.the anti-HS2 movement, 51M. How much of that was negotiateded with
:04:18. > :04:22.locals when route planning was happening? Nothing was negotiated
:04:22. > :04:25.with locals, they decide what they want to do. This is the Department
:04:25. > :04:29.of Transport? Yes, they don't negotiate, they say this is where
:04:29. > :04:32.the route will be. You can make a protestation, and say we don't
:04:32. > :04:35.think that is quite right. And sometimes they listen and sometimes
:04:35. > :04:40.they don't. We understand from the map,
:04:40. > :04:43.although it is not 100% clear, that it will now be 50 yards in that
:04:43. > :04:47.direction. Alex Sheffield's 450- year-old home is right on the new
:04:47. > :04:52.line. The house itself will be spared, but much her garden and
:04:52. > :04:57.farm will be bulldozed, according to the latest plans. So when people
:04:57. > :05:02.accuse you of being a nimby, Alex, what do you say? That I challenge
:05:03. > :05:08.anyone, in had my position, not to be a nimby. If they had their house,
:05:08. > :05:16.that was the upset of having one's house take be away from one,
:05:16. > :05:19.without any say so. How could you not care about that.
:05:19. > :05:23.A few hundred miles further up the line, the people set to benefit
:05:23. > :05:28.from phase two of the project are much more enthusiastic. We initial
:05:28. > :05:32.low asked our members about high- speed rail, and whether they wanted
:05:32. > :05:36.to cover the region, 90% of members said they were in favour of it
:05:37. > :05:39.coming to the Leeds city region. That is because it firms up their
:05:39. > :05:43.investment plans, it gives them certaintyer for the future. Which
:05:43. > :05:46.is very much what -- certainty for the future, which is very much what
:05:46. > :05:49.business wants. It will also mean it will attract new business to the
:05:49. > :05:53.area, because of the improved transport connections.
:05:53. > :05:56.And 40 miles south of Leeds, is Sheffield, the Deputy Prime
:05:56. > :06:01.Minister's constituency, though one wonders whether he will still be in
:06:01. > :06:05.that post by 2033, when HS2 arrives. It it is really great news, it it
:06:05. > :06:10.is great news for the whole country. I think especially for the great
:06:10. > :06:15.cities of the north. Leeds, Sheffield, done caster, you name it.
:06:15. > :06:18.For so long - Doncaster, you name it, for so long the Government has
:06:18. > :06:23.spent time worrying about the south-east, and this is a big
:06:23. > :06:26.investment in the future, linking north and south together. So
:06:26. > :06:29.everybody, no matter where you live, particularly in the north of the
:06:29. > :06:34.country, will share in prosperity in the future. There are plenty of
:06:34. > :06:38.people who say the Government's motivation in pressing ahead with
:06:38. > :06:41.HS2 are more political than economic. Certainly connecting the
:06:41. > :06:46.West Midlands, where there are plenty of marginal seats, will play
:06:46. > :06:51.well on the doorsteps in 2015. The Tories could legitimately say they
:06:51. > :06:54.are not just focused on the south- east, but economically in the north.
:06:54. > :06:57.If the high-speed rail service the economies of the North West and the
:06:57. > :07:00.Midlands, and boosts them, the Conservatives will have made a huge
:07:00. > :07:03.impact in the two regions that are amongst the killing grounds in the
:07:03. > :07:07.general elections, where Governments are made and broken,
:07:07. > :07:13.stuffed through on marginal seats, the Conservatives were 19 seats
:07:13. > :07:17.short in the last elections, in the West Midlands alone there are 24
:07:17. > :07:20.seats, where close to Labour F they get a benefit from it, it might
:07:20. > :07:23.make a difference at the next election.
:07:23. > :07:28.The think-tank of economic affairs, normally agrees with Conservative
:07:28. > :07:31.Party politics, but not on this one. One of the reasons that people
:07:31. > :07:35.think HS2 has gained support in the Conservative Party, is because that
:07:35. > :07:40.party did so badly in the general election in areas like the West
:07:40. > :07:44.Midlands and the north of England. This is a big carrot to would
:07:44. > :07:47.voters in those regions. Voters -- woo voters in those regions. Voters
:07:48. > :07:51.understand they will have to pay for it with their tax money, they
:07:51. > :07:57.are not so easily fooled. Eventhough the Government may have
:07:57. > :08:02.said full steam ahead,ed today might also start a number of ma --
:08:02. > :08:05.ahead, today might also start a number of major legal challenges.
:08:05. > :08:09.But things may have of moved on by then that we may be able to
:08:09. > :08:15.teleport between cities. I'm joined by the transport
:08:15. > :08:22.minister and three opponents of the scheme, Gillian Tett, a group of 18
:08:22. > :08:27.local authorities opposed to the scheme. The head of the woodland
:08:27. > :08:32.Trust, and the head of the city Group A M. Why is now a good time
:08:32. > :08:37.to promise to spent �33 billion on shaving minutes off getting from
:08:37. > :08:41.Birmingham to London? The objective of pursuing this ideal, shared by
:08:41. > :08:46.all three parties in the parliament, is not to shave time off travel
:08:46. > :08:49.between Birmingham and London, but to create economic prosperity in
:08:49. > :08:52.the north, and to deal with the chronic overcrowding that we are
:08:52. > :08:56.anticipating on the railways. The numbers on the railways have
:08:56. > :09:00.doubled in the last ten years, and the West Coast Mainline, which we
:09:00. > :09:04.have spent money on is almost full already. We will have people
:09:04. > :09:09.priceded off the railise or standing for very long distance --
:09:09. > :09:13.railways, or standing for very long distances. Why not get on with it,
:09:13. > :09:17.why wait in until 2026? transport minister promised to
:09:17. > :09:22.accelerate the timetable the we have a complicated process in
:09:22. > :09:25.parliament, we have to listen to the inch by inch on the line
:09:25. > :09:30.through parliament the bill won't be ready until 2015. We have to
:09:30. > :09:34.look at it properly. When you lock at all these problems and you talk
:09:34. > :09:39.overcrowding, you know commuter trains are seriously overcrowded.
:09:39. > :09:42.All the possiblities you had, this is by far the best one, is it?
:09:42. > :09:47.because that would be a fair question, if we were doing nothing
:09:47. > :09:50.else. The reality is we have got, never mind HS2 apart from that we
:09:51. > :09:54.have the biggest rail investment programme in this country since
:09:54. > :09:58.Victorian times. CrossRail going you awe head, Thameslink. You have
:09:58. > :10:02.chosen to give priority to this in terms of money, not a new airport
:10:02. > :10:07.in the south-east or commuter trains? We are doing commuter
:10:07. > :10:11.trains, Southern we authorised another �80 million for Southern
:10:11. > :10:17.over the Christmas prd. We have a rail investment programme taking
:10:17. > :10:22.place now. HS2 has a lead-in period. When CrossRail is completed that
:10:22. > :10:25.budget it be transferred to HS2. Let's go to those yet to be
:10:25. > :10:29.convince. The changes to the project, longer tunnels, more
:10:29. > :10:34.tunnels, that kind of thing, does that hp you, because it means the
:10:34. > :10:41.areas -- help you, because it means the areas will not be soed bad low
:10:41. > :10:45.affected as you see it? It is not about woods and fields. As local
:10:45. > :10:47.authorities remember used to the fact of taking strategic and
:10:47. > :10:52.controversial decisions. The problem for the Government is when
:10:52. > :10:55.you are spending �32 billion worth of your money and my money, every
:10:55. > :10:59.viewer's money, you have to make sure you are spending on good value
:10:59. > :11:01.for money and in the national interest. The problem they have is
:11:02. > :11:05.virtually every independent observer, looking at this, thinks
:11:05. > :11:12.this is a very poor business case, it it is poor value for money, and
:11:12. > :11:17.the national interest isn't served. You are talking about national
:11:17. > :11:20.interest, but you are thinking about Buckinghamshire and nimbyism?
:11:20. > :11:24.That is the slur from the Labour champions, this is Gordon Brown's
:11:24. > :11:30.scheme initially. The argument for this and the Transport Select
:11:30. > :11:34.Committee looked at it in great detail, they said don't throw the
:11:34. > :11:42.acronym nimby around, this is about justifying a business expenditure
:11:42. > :11:50.of �32 billion around in a time of maer jor austerity. The �32 --
:11:50. > :11:54.Major austerity. The �32 billion kicks in 20 26, when CrossRail ends,
:11:54. > :11:59.the budget will transfer to HS2 we are carrying on with investment in
:11:59. > :12:02.the railways now, in the way they have don advocated to do in terms
:12:02. > :12:06.of expenditure. I don't accept that case. The transport select commity
:12:06. > :12:10.said there was a good case for the line. In the business case, you
:12:11. > :12:18.have to spend back every pound you spend �2 paying back. Those figures
:12:18. > :12:22.have gone down. You accept that? don't accept that. It is �1.76 to
:12:23. > :12:26.�1 for the first phase and less for the second. How much extra have you
:12:26. > :12:31.had to spend on longer tunnels in the hope of buying off local
:12:31. > :12:34.opposition? It it is not a question buying off local opposition, but
:12:34. > :12:38.listening to people's consultation responses. How much did that cost?
:12:38. > :12:43.If you take one of the tunnels questioned in the Commons today.
:12:43. > :12:47.Because we are avoiding certain things we are saving money. So the
:12:47. > :12:52.net cost of building more tunnels? There is a net cost, but it is not
:12:52. > :12:55.significant, particularly, in terms of the overall scheme. The overall
:12:55. > :12:58.top. Nothing is significant concerned to that? The top line
:12:58. > :13:02.figure has not changed significantly from today's
:13:02. > :13:08.announcement. It is worth saying there is a 60% cushion to allow for
:13:08. > :13:12.overspend in that �33 million. Martin said it was not about
:13:12. > :13:16.woodlands, however important they are. What is your anxiety the
:13:16. > :13:21.woodlands? It is about the woodlands from the Woodland Trust
:13:21. > :13:28.pr pective. It is important to weigh up -- perspective, it is
:13:28. > :13:35.important to weigh up the economic case, we think the cost will be too
:13:35. > :13:40.great. There will be 19 ancient woods destroyed by the route, and a
:13:41. > :13:46.further 27 damage. They are a rainforest, irreplacable, and the
:13:46. > :13:50.richest wildlife habitats, we believe that level loss is
:13:50. > :13:53.unacceptable. -- level of loss is unacceptable. Aren't some going to
:13:53. > :13:58.be relocateded? It is impossible to relocate something that has been
:13:58. > :14:03.there hundreds of years. It is a unique habitat, not disturbed for
:14:03. > :14:08.about 400 years, you can't just lift it up and move it. Why are you
:14:08. > :14:12.promising to relocate some of the ancient woodlands, that sounds like
:14:12. > :14:17.a nonsensical statement, if it is ancient it is ancient? We are
:14:17. > :14:20.planting millions of trees along the line. They won't be ancient
:14:20. > :14:24.woodland? We are listening carefully to what people have say.
:14:24. > :14:28.There is 22 miles tunnelment compared to 14 in the consultation.
:14:28. > :14:34.56 miles will be in deep cutting. Half the line will be unseen. And
:14:34. > :14:38.then the Chilterns AONB, we accept is a sensitive area, two miles will
:14:38. > :14:42.be on the surfacement we have taken great steps to protect the
:14:42. > :14:47.environment consequences. We will see a shift of four-and-a-half
:14:47. > :14:51.million flights, nine million car journies each year on to the
:14:51. > :14:56.railways, that will have a carbon benefit. It is not as simple to say
:14:56. > :15:00.the tunnels will mitigate the loss of ancient woodland, cutting and
:15:00. > :15:04.covering will destroy the habitat. It is not a valid mitigation.
:15:04. > :15:10.Planting trees, we accept it is great a lot trees will be plant in
:15:10. > :15:13.the corridor, but destroying ancient woodland needs replacement.
:15:13. > :15:17.You are against the overall economic cautious you think there
:15:17. > :15:23.is a better use of the money? is right -- economic case, you
:15:23. > :15:27.think there is a better use of the money? I think so. These public
:15:27. > :15:30.sector probgtjs always end up spending -- projects always end up
:15:30. > :15:33.spending more than the politicians think. The benefits will be smaller,
:15:33. > :15:38.the numbers don't make any sense. If you want to spend the money,
:15:38. > :15:42.spend it on something else, airports, more motorways, other
:15:42. > :15:48.places in rail. The minister is making the point that other things
:15:48. > :15:52.are being done? They are spending �32 billion, it is a huge sum of
:15:52. > :15:57.money and misallocation of resources, you could renovate much
:15:57. > :16:01.more of thek cysting rail structure. You would get more benefits --
:16:01. > :16:07.existing railway structure, you would get more benefits for Britain,
:16:07. > :16:12.and commuter lines. I don't buy we should spend �32 billion, a
:16:12. > :16:16.thousand pounds per income taxpayer, it is a white elephant. Plenty of
:16:16. > :16:19.business people will disagree and are enthusiastic, those in
:16:19. > :16:23.Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds are hugely enthusiastic because
:16:23. > :16:26.they see the economic benefits to the areas? There is huge economic
:16:26. > :16:29.benefits but the costs are muchp higher. You could help these
:16:29. > :16:33.businesses and these parts of the UK in other, cheaper, more
:16:33. > :16:35.efficient and more effective ways. We are helping them, we are
:16:35. > :16:38.spending huge amounts of money on transport since the general
:16:38. > :16:41.election, despite the difficult economic circumstances because we
:16:41. > :16:45.recognise investment in transport is very good for the economy.
:16:45. > :16:49.Perpouring ahead with road and rail in a way that has -- we are pouring
:16:49. > :16:56.ahead with road and rail in had a way that hasn't been done before.
:16:56. > :17:00.There is a 60% cushion in there Because we recognise that projects
:17:00. > :17:03.from the public sector have a tendency to overshoot. We have
:17:03. > :17:07.allowed that by an overestimate in the cost. Did you see anything in
:17:07. > :17:09.the argument being made in the film that perhaps some this is about
:17:09. > :17:12.politics, helping out the north economically, but showing the
:17:12. > :17:17.Government cares about the north, because that is where the votes
:17:17. > :17:23.are? I think all Governments fall for the idea that some big pros
:17:23. > :17:27.teenagous project is like a silver bull -- prestigious project is like
:17:27. > :17:30.a silver bullet. We all care about the country and want economic
:17:30. > :17:34.growth, the fact that one scheme will do that is something all
:17:34. > :17:41.Governments fall forment I remember Concorde, the Channel Tunnel, the
:17:41. > :17:44.Dome, they are delusions. What brings growth is investment in the
:17:44. > :17:49.infrastructure. This is infrastructure investment?
:17:49. > :17:54.important point in the road and rail infrastructure around the
:17:54. > :17:58.entire country that people used to. They are the unsexy, unglamorous
:17:59. > :18:02.schemes that bring the growth. There was an announcement from the
:18:02. > :18:06.Chancellor late last year of a whole lot of road and rail schemes.
:18:06. > :18:11.There was further announcements from the Transport Secretary about
:18:11. > :18:14.local authority schemes, we are doing that month on month. You are
:18:14. > :18:18.spending �32 billion on this mass you have why you, untested project,
:18:18. > :18:22.which is -- massive unrested project, which is unlikely to bring
:18:22. > :18:25.in the benefits the smaller projects could bring. There you
:18:25. > :18:28.could have the private sector involved, less money spent from the
:18:28. > :18:31.tax-payers. Let's not forget the higher taxes and national debt that
:18:32. > :18:35.will be needed to pay for this project will hit the economy.
:18:35. > :18:39.of all, we are doing both, the smaller projects and the large
:18:39. > :18:42.projects, not all the eggs in one basket. As I have explained the
:18:42. > :18:46.money from CrossRail we are spending will be transferred to HS
:18:46. > :18:50.on the budget line. We are not diverting money from anything else?
:18:50. > :18:54.You could transfer this money to something else. There is other ways
:18:54. > :18:58.of creating regeneration. Do you think there is any way of stopping
:18:58. > :19:03.this project? Absolutely. Legalle challenges? You picked up the point
:19:03. > :19:06.Earl -- Legal challenges? picked up the point earlier, the
:19:06. > :19:11.cost benefit ratio of this has gone down. It has progressively gone
:19:11. > :19:15.down every time the numbers are rework. Half of that benefit acues
:19:15. > :19:18.on the vacuous assumption that no businessman ever works on a trin.
:19:18. > :19:22.Clearly we can win the economic -- train, clearly we can win the
:19:22. > :19:27.economic argument because the with business case doesn't stand up.
:19:27. > :19:31.the political argument, prominent members of this Government in your
:19:31. > :19:34.area, they can't be very happy it, presumably, although they are loyal
:19:34. > :19:38.members of the Government? I can't talk for them. Riot along the route,
:19:38. > :19:43.those of us who have -- right along the route, those of us who have
:19:43. > :19:47.studied the route, know this is a really poor value for money, we can
:19:47. > :19:53.win that argument. These are very prominent members of the Government,
:19:53. > :19:57.we know some have been very vocal? If you were in the Commons today
:19:57. > :20:01.you will have seen a broad level of support from all three parties,
:20:01. > :20:06.four if you include the nationalists as well. Of course
:20:06. > :20:11.there were comments and criticisms and suggestions for improvements.
:20:11. > :20:18.It was a positive debate and people understand it. The concept has been
:20:18. > :20:24.bought by parliament as a whole. If the Scottish Government get
:20:24. > :20:27.their way, in autumn of 2014, a few weeks after the 700th anniversary
:20:27. > :20:31.of the Battle of Bannockburn, Scottish voters will decide whether
:20:31. > :20:38.the 300-year-old union should end, and two independent states should
:20:38. > :20:43.co-exist instead of the UK. Ours Scottish political editor joins me
:20:43. > :20:48.-- our Scottish political editor joins me from outside the Scottish
:20:48. > :20:51.Parliament. Is this August 14th date set in stone? As far as the
:20:51. > :20:55.Scottish Government is concerned it is. During the run up to the
:20:55. > :21:01.Scottish elections last year, it was thought a referendum would take
:21:01. > :21:07.place in the latter half of the current Holyrood term. He has
:21:07. > :21:10.announced tonightle following consultation with cabinet
:21:10. > :21:13.colleagues he has said autumn 2014. There is a consultation process to
:21:13. > :21:17.be launch very shortly on the nature of the referendum, the
:21:17. > :21:22.procedure of the referendum, then a bill to bring it about. And then
:21:22. > :21:26.there would be a breathing space to allow the voters to digest the
:21:26. > :21:31.concept and then you have the referendum itself. Course this are
:21:31. > :21:35.other issues to be borne in mind. First of all, why is he delaying
:21:35. > :21:38.the referendum at all. Believes the Scots will go for independence when
:21:38. > :21:41.they feel self-of confident and the current economic circumstances
:21:42. > :21:45.aren't there. Secondly, there is the issue Mr Salmond is not
:21:45. > :21:49.referring to atle all, which is the UK Government says his plans are
:21:49. > :21:54.illegal, but he is exceeding the devolved powers, he is simply
:21:54. > :21:59.dismissings that would a wave disDane. Whatever the legal
:21:59. > :22:03.position, -- wave of disDane. Whatever the legal position this is
:22:03. > :22:11.fraughter for the Government? they are seen to be interfering
:22:11. > :22:16.rather than inter veening, aglesive -- intervening, aggressively rather
:22:16. > :22:21.than in a constructive fashion, there is a danger are from the UK
:22:21. > :22:25.perspective of a backlash into Scotland. Would be seen as unwanted
:22:25. > :22:30.interference, since the Government here has an SNP ma rt Jo, which
:22:30. > :22:34.they won on the -- majority, which they won on the promise of a
:22:34. > :22:44.referendum for independent. You can say, at the very least, the people
:22:44. > :22:45.
:22:45. > :22:49.Scotland were not deterred from the SNP's perspective. First of all, on
:22:50. > :22:53.this date, autumn 2014, is that fine with you? We want to have the
:22:53. > :22:56.referendum decideded and get on with it as soon as possible.
:22:56. > :23:04.I think the longer we delay, the greater the economic uncertain toe
:23:04. > :23:09.and the risk that those -- uncertainty and the risk it poses
:23:09. > :23:14.to jobs. What I said today in the House of Commons Scotland faces the
:23:14. > :23:18.biggest, hissorle kal political decision we will ever take as a
:23:18. > :23:23.country -- historical, political decision we will ever take as a
:23:23. > :23:28.country.Le Alex Salmond has said the debate is we will have it in
:23:28. > :23:30.autumn 2014? He has said he would like to do. Our first problem is
:23:30. > :23:34.the Scottish Parliament, as things currently stand, doesn't have the
:23:35. > :23:38.power to do this. We need to give them the legal basis for the
:23:38. > :23:43.referendum. What we're offering to do. You now have plenty of time to
:23:43. > :23:46.do that? What we are offering to do is work with them, so the Scottish
:23:46. > :23:50.people can have of confidence about the legal arrangements for the
:23:50. > :23:53.referendum. We want it to be a fair referendum. The way in which it is
:23:53. > :23:58.support by the Electoral Commission, the rules of it, are clear, and
:23:59. > :24:03.then we will get a clear outcome. Do you have red lines, things like
:24:03. > :24:07.you want a yes/no vot on independence, if there was a third
:24:07. > :24:11.-- vote on independence, if there was a third option would you not
:24:11. > :24:14.negotiate in the same way as you are suggesting? We have started a
:24:14. > :24:18.process of consulting with people across Scotland. As huge decision
:24:18. > :24:22.and we need to get it right and don't fall out about the process.
:24:22. > :24:25.There would be nothing worse getting to the end and deciding
:24:25. > :24:30.this in court rather than the ballot box. For each us in Scotland
:24:30. > :24:35.we need to consider that. I wo you say, from today, let's debate how
:24:35. > :24:38.we carry out the referendum. are not ruling anything out now?
:24:39. > :24:41.what we have said. Whatever your position legally, politically, as
:24:41. > :24:46.you know, Mr Salmond can make the running on this, it is very
:24:46. > :24:50.difficult for you actually to stop him? We recognise that he had had a
:24:50. > :24:55.very important electoral victory last year. He had had a significant
:24:55. > :24:59.pledge to ensure that there was a referendum on independence. We want
:24:59. > :25:02.to ensure, working with the Scottish Government that referendum
:25:02. > :25:05.can take place, without legal challenge, that the way in which it
:25:05. > :25:10.is carried out is fair, so the rules are clear, so the franchise
:25:10. > :25:13.is clear, and then at the end, we have a simple question that
:25:13. > :25:17.clarifies, is Scotland going to continue as part of the most
:25:17. > :25:22.successful partnership of nations in history, or go it alone. Indeed,
:25:22. > :25:25.all that said, still has you over a barrel. Even if this were a
:25:25. > :25:29.consultative referendum, even if you said it was not legally binding,
:25:29. > :25:32.politically it is profoundly important for all the reasons you
:25:32. > :25:36.have. Therefore, the Scottish First Minister, will, in the end, set the
:25:36. > :25:40.terms of? What I think the First Minister recognises, that we need
:25:40. > :25:43.to talk about this, we need to work together. What people will not for
:25:43. > :25:46.give politician, regardless of which parliament they long --
:25:46. > :25:53.forgive politicians, regardless of which parliament or parties they
:25:53. > :25:57.support, they will not for -- forgive us if the bickering and
:25:58. > :26:01.squabbling gets in the way of the future. I want to work with him to
:26:01. > :26:05.make sure it is done appropriately. Let's have a fair referendum with a
:26:05. > :26:10.clear set of rules. Let's have a straight forward debate about
:26:10. > :26:14.England in the UK or going it alone. Within, everything is pretty much
:26:14. > :26:18.much up for grabs there are no absolute noes in your position
:26:18. > :26:21.about the question. You are not going to say there can't be a third
:26:21. > :26:26.choice, you will not rule out autumn 2014, you are not actually
:26:26. > :26:29.going to lay down the law at all? What we have said today is we want
:26:29. > :26:32.a process that gets on with the referendum. I want that as soon as
:26:32. > :26:36.possible. The First Minister argues for to be in two-and-a-half years
:26:36. > :26:41.time. I think the longer we leave it, the greater the effect on jobs
:26:41. > :26:46.and people's livelihoods, that is not good for any of us in Scotland.
:26:46. > :26:49.We have said we want a referendum played by a fair set rules, that
:26:49. > :26:54.the Electoral Commission can superadvise and we can get on with
:26:54. > :26:57.the debate -- supervise, and we can get on with the debate without
:26:57. > :27:00.anyone having an advantage over anyone else. We have to be able to
:27:00. > :27:03.do it, at the present time the legal power doesn't exist, let's
:27:03. > :27:06.work together and establish that. To make sure in Scotland we have
:27:06. > :27:12.this decision which will be the biggest political decision of our
:27:12. > :27:16.lives in Scotland. It is important we get it right.
:27:16. > :27:19.It is not a relaunch, apparently, although it may look like one.
:27:19. > :27:23.After weeks of bad newspaper headlines and dismal personal
:27:23. > :27:27.approval ratings in the opinion polls, Ed Milliband tried to
:27:27. > :27:30.toughen up and reshape his image today, talking with difficult
:27:30. > :27:34.economic choices for Labour, and challenging the Prime Minister to
:27:34. > :27:39.bring on the battle about crony capitalism, but is anyone listening
:27:39. > :27:43.to the Labour leader. We look at the hard facts of opposition.
:27:43. > :27:47.The time until the next election, the time Ed Milliband has left to
:27:47. > :27:51.connect with and convince voters is ticking locally away. There is
:27:51. > :27:55.still a long time left, to be sure, but, by his own admission, there is
:27:55. > :27:59.a lot of ground to of cover. His first speech of the new year,
:27:59. > :28:04.at times, felt more like the first speech of a new leader, rather than
:28:04. > :28:09.one who has been in the job for over a year. I want to explain the
:28:09. > :28:13.principles, which will guide my leadership. I want to set out a new
:28:13. > :28:17.approach. Labour, said, had had to change are the party that ran
:28:17. > :28:22.Britain for 13 years. Sometimes in Government, it felt like, instead
:28:22. > :28:28.of building the new economy, we were patching up the unfairness of
:28:28. > :28:34.the old economy. Fairness wasn't hard wired into our economy and
:28:34. > :28:38.society. So that, as well as the necessity of the deficit we will
:28:39. > :28:41.face, means Labour needs a new approach. There were new policies
:28:41. > :28:45.today, like compelling the energy companies to you have the elderly
:28:45. > :28:49.their cheapest tarrifs. Buter for the most part, Mr Miliband was
:28:49. > :28:53.expanding on themes that we have heard before. Themes he said that
:28:53. > :28:58.David Cameron was now trying to steal. I say to the Prime Minister,
:28:58. > :29:02.who are you trying to kid? Nobody is going to be believe you came
:29:02. > :29:09.into politics to end crony capitalism. No-one will believe
:29:09. > :29:15.that is what gets you out bed in the morning. Now that he has
:29:15. > :29:19.accepted this is the battleground of politics, I say, bring on.
:29:19. > :29:24.Because Labour are the people that can show that we can deliver
:29:24. > :29:28.fairness in tough times, and we are the only party that can deliver
:29:28. > :29:32.fairness in tough times. But there is an uncomfortable
:29:32. > :29:36.question for the Labour leader. the polling seems to suggest that
:29:37. > :29:41.your messages on things like fairness, on the squeezed middle,
:29:41. > :29:47.on vested interests, on responsible capitalism, on the riots on Rupert
:29:47. > :29:52.Murdoch, are all chiming very well. Keep going. Chiming very well with
:29:52. > :29:55.the public, that same polling doesn't seem to suggest that your
:29:55. > :29:59.party or yourself are cutting through on the issues, why do you
:29:59. > :30:04.think that is? We had a terrible result in the 2010 general election.
:30:04. > :30:09.I think people sometimes forget about this, we got 29% of the vote.
:30:09. > :30:15.That is the second-lowest vote since universal suffrage was
:30:15. > :30:18.introduce. That is pretty bad, right I don't think anybody is
:30:18. > :30:22.saying we are at that position in the opinion polls. This is a party
:30:22. > :30:26.embark on a process of recovery, but it is hard, of course it is.
:30:26. > :30:29.The polling doesn't lock all that great for Mr Miliband, if you lock
:30:29. > :30:33.at the approval rates of other leaders of the opposition at a
:30:33. > :30:40.simple later point during their tenure, only -- similar point
:30:40. > :30:44.during their tenure, only Michael Foot and one other does worse than
:30:44. > :30:48.Mr Miliband. Political leaders need to do more than find popular
:30:48. > :30:52.policies. It is not that simple. It is not about the policies, it it is
:30:52. > :30:56.about the belief in the leadership of a political party and the leader
:30:56. > :31:00.themselves, increasingly, and their ability to make those thingsp
:31:00. > :31:02.happen. That is where Ed Milliband has a problem, in the same way as
:31:02. > :31:05.Neil Kinnock, people believed in many of the policies he was
:31:05. > :31:09.espousing in 1992, but he didn't become Prime Minister, because
:31:09. > :31:12.people didn't believe he would effectively put them into practice.
:31:12. > :31:15.In contrast, people thought many of the same things the policies Tony
:31:15. > :31:19.Blair proposed in 1997, but they did believe that Tony Blair would
:31:19. > :31:24.make them work. The danger for the Labour leader is
:31:24. > :31:27.that a media narrative develops, small Tories magnified into a
:31:27. > :31:33.crisis of leadership -- small stories magnified into a crisis of
:31:33. > :31:37.leadership. We have to buy shares in Miliband
:31:37. > :31:40.ban, at the moment people think are thinking -- Ed Milliband, at the
:31:40. > :31:44.moment people are thinking is it worth it, down the road will he
:31:44. > :31:47.leave me better off in the future. At the moment people don't have a
:31:47. > :31:52.clear idea of what Ed Milliband is about. That had come, it would have
:31:52. > :31:57.been foolish to flesh out the ideas in the first 12 months. Now we are
:31:57. > :32:02.in the second year of the full year of the Ed Milliband leadership it
:32:02. > :32:08.can't come quick enough for me. Leader of the opposition is one the
:32:08. > :32:11.hardest job in politics. Even so, would be very helpful, in silencing
:32:11. > :32:15.his critics, if Ed Milliband could show a bit more progress on the
:32:15. > :32:19.journey back to power. Rachel Reeves, saw on the end of
:32:19. > :32:24.the report, is the Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury. Can you
:32:24. > :32:28.help us out as to what your party for, in this age of no of-money
:32:28. > :32:31.politics. In terms of the Government's tax rises, and the
:32:31. > :32:35.Government's spending cuts, what could you guarantee to reverse, if
:32:35. > :32:38.you get back into power? That is the thing, we can't guarantee to
:32:38. > :32:42.reverse in of the cuts, or any of the tax increases, that the
:32:42. > :32:45.Government have put through. And that's because we now know, because
:32:45. > :32:48.the Chancellor got up and said it in his Autumn Statement. That after
:32:48. > :32:52.the next election. There is nothing the Government is doing that is bad
:32:52. > :32:55.enough that you could say we have to reverse that, not a single
:32:55. > :32:58.thing? We don't know what the economic situation would be in the
:32:58. > :33:02.next election the after the last election, the Conservative and
:33:02. > :33:06.Liberal Democrats said they would eliminate the deficit by theen the
:33:06. > :33:09.parliament. We know -- by the end of the next parliament, we know
:33:09. > :33:12.will be well into the next parliament. It would be
:33:12. > :33:17.irresponsible in the economic environment we face to reverse any
:33:18. > :33:21.of the cuts. Your party, Alistair Darling said you would cut it in
:33:21. > :33:25.half by the end of the part, you have abandon that? We haven't
:33:25. > :33:29.abandoned that. You know how to cut the deficit then? What we said at
:33:29. > :33:33.the last election, and it was said, we would half the deficit during
:33:33. > :33:35.the course this parliament. That is a �40 billion difference between
:33:35. > :33:39.what the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats were doing, compared to
:33:39. > :33:45.us. Let's remember, at the Autumn Statement, Osbourne born had to
:33:45. > :33:49.admit this country -- George Osborne had to admit this country
:33:49. > :33:52.would be borrowing more than they plan, not because they haven't
:33:52. > :33:57.increased taxes or cut hard enough, but unemployment is rising and
:33:57. > :34:01.there is not enough taxes. interesting for people watching is
:34:01. > :34:05.you were very clear in the last 18 months, this Government is reckless,
:34:05. > :34:09.cutting too far, too fast, you are very clear on that, but you are not
:34:09. > :34:13.clear on what you would do? They are cutting too far and fast. The
:34:13. > :34:17.result of their decisions means the economic recovery, which was under
:34:17. > :34:21.way a year of-and-a-half ago, has been choc off. The result is rising
:34:21. > :34:24.unemployment, more than a million young people out of work, growth
:34:24. > :34:28.flatlining. You can't say what you would reverse, if you are right,
:34:28. > :34:31.you must be able to say and give us some idea what you would change?
:34:32. > :34:36.we were in power today, we would implement a five-point plan for
:34:36. > :34:39.jobs and growth, to get the economy back on track, to get unemployment
:34:39. > :34:43.down, to help small businesses with a national insurance holiday, to
:34:43. > :34:47.help those young people. Also, crucially, by getting jobs and
:34:47. > :34:51.growth back on track now, that will help reduce the deficit, because
:34:51. > :34:55.more people in work paying taxes, more businesses succeeding, means
:34:55. > :34:58.less out in benefits and more in tax. Isn't a fundamental problem
:34:58. > :35:02.for the Labour Party, for years, going back to the Second World War,
:35:02. > :35:07.is you are fine for good times, but when the times are really tough, as
:35:07. > :35:11.they are now, you cannot handle austerity, you don't know what to
:35:11. > :35:14.to? Which is why the speech today was so important. What Ed set out
:35:14. > :35:18.is under the last Labour Government, under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown,
:35:18. > :35:22.we had had rising prosperity and economic growth. You could use that
:35:22. > :35:25.process of growth to invest in the schools and hospitals and implement
:35:25. > :35:29.policies like taxed credits. That will be very difficult and
:35:29. > :35:35.difference after the last election. How did it take 18 months to figure
:35:35. > :35:43.that out. Liam Byrne left a note when he left, saying, I'm afraid
:35:43. > :35:46.there is no money. Everybody got it. We set out plans for halfing the
:35:46. > :35:50.deficit in the parliament. Ed Milliband set out today what Labour
:35:50. > :35:53.would do in building a fairer, more responsible capitalism, that
:35:53. > :35:56.delivers for ordinary working families. You are going to reform
:35:57. > :36:01.capitalism, but you can't tell us how much you would do in tax rises
:36:01. > :36:07.and cuts? We can't say that because we don't know the economic
:36:07. > :36:10.situation at the last -- to the next election. But you can reform
:36:10. > :36:15.capitalism? The Chancellor said he would get rid of the deficit in
:36:15. > :36:18.this parliament and now says in the next parliament. It would be
:36:19. > :36:23.irresponsible to is the out economic policies for the next
:36:23. > :36:27.election. On the police we said we would cut the police spending by
:36:27. > :36:31.12% compared to the Government's 20%. We have plans to reduce the
:36:31. > :36:35.deficit. But we can't, three years ahead of the general election, give
:36:35. > :36:39.you a detailed spending commitment. What does the reform of capitalism
:36:39. > :36:42.mean and what does it look like? you look at what is happening at
:36:42. > :36:46.the moment. Ordinary families seeing bus and train fares
:36:46. > :36:51.increase,en gee prices increase, VAT going up, the biggest squeeze
:36:51. > :36:54.in living standards for a gin racial. People on the boards of our
:36:54. > :36:58.biggest country got a 49% pay increase. You will legislate to
:36:58. > :37:01.change all this? First of all you have to give shareholders more
:37:01. > :37:06.power, that is what David Cameron is saying as well the but two
:37:06. > :37:10.things in addition it that, to make this really work, to put on the
:37:10. > :37:13.remuneration committee of the companies, a person from the work
:37:13. > :37:19.force. And also to have transparency, everybody is who is
:37:19. > :37:24.paid over �1 million has the pay publish, and you pub the ratio
:37:24. > :37:28.between top and lowest paid -- put the ratio between top and lowest
:37:28. > :37:32.paid. We will have a something for something culture, not just rewards
:37:32. > :37:38.for failure at the top, rather than everyone else facing the squeeze.
:37:38. > :37:42.Right now, in fact, in Newham shur, the polls are still open as
:37:42. > :37:47.Republicans choose who their candidate will be to beat President
:37:47. > :37:52.Obama in the presidential election. The favourite is, undoubtedly, Mitt
:37:52. > :37:58.Romney, from Massachusetts, who narrowly won in Iowa. For all his
:37:58. > :38:03.money, a quarter of a billion of personal fortune. He failed to get
:38:03. > :38:06.the nomination in 2008, and's struggling to seal the deal with
:38:06. > :38:12.voters. The question is -- and he's struggling to seal the deal with
:38:12. > :38:17.voters. The question is why. In a vital New Hampshire contest,
:38:17. > :38:21.the view voters in dixville Notch, went to the polls last night. In
:38:21. > :38:25.the coming weeks, Mitt Romney has to convince, not just the folk from
:38:25. > :38:31.New England, where he feels atm ho, but Republicans in South Carolina,
:38:31. > :38:36.Florida and other more difficult states. It will not be easy.
:38:36. > :38:40.The former Governor of Massachusetts, who eliminated a $3
:38:40. > :38:46.billion deficit, Romney was a successful business leading a
:38:46. > :38:50.private equity firm. He made billions of dollars in what is
:38:50. > :38:57.called "restructuring companies", opponents call him a greedy asset
:38:57. > :39:02.stripper. A group of corporate raiders, led by Mitt Romney, more
:39:02. > :39:06.ruthless than Wall Street. For tens of thousands of Americans, the
:39:06. > :39:11.suffering began, when Mitt Romney came to town.
:39:11. > :39:15.Mitt Romney compounded his own problems with outbreak of foot-and-
:39:15. > :39:19.mouth disease. I like to fire people who provide service it is me.
:39:19. > :39:25.I know what it is like to worry about fired, there were a cop of
:39:25. > :39:29.times I wondered would I get a pink slip. The simple truth is, after
:39:29. > :39:34.looking him over for some years, some Republicans don't like him,
:39:34. > :39:38.his career, his personality, or misMorman faith. Plus Mitt Romney's
:39:38. > :39:42.hault care plan was very similar to that of Barack Obama. Something
:39:42. > :39:45.that is toxic for many Americans. Beyond that, there was the rather
:39:45. > :39:51.weird matter of governor Romney strapping the family dog on to the
:39:51. > :39:53.roof of his car for a 12-hour drive to Canada.
:39:53. > :39:58.Bill Clinton once told New Hampshire voters he would be with
:39:58. > :40:02.them until the last dog died. Mitt Romney you may be the last
:40:02. > :40:09.Republican standing, but will his party ever learn to love him the
:40:09. > :40:16.The former Governor of Minnesota and one-time Republican
:40:16. > :40:22.presidential hopeful, has joined me from New Hampshire. What was it
:40:22. > :40:29.that Republicans don't get or like about Mitt Romney? I think that is
:40:29. > :40:35.really a false premise, if you look at what happened, Mitt Romney
:40:35. > :40:38.unexpectedly on Iowa, that was a tremendous accomplishment. No
:40:38. > :40:44.Republican nominee has won Iowa and New Hampshire, in the modern
:40:44. > :40:49.history of the country. In the holes he's ahead in South Carolina
:40:49. > :40:52.and to say he's not getting support from Republicans is inaccurate. It
:40:53. > :40:58.is hard to break-away from the field when you have six or seven
:40:58. > :41:01.candidates, his message of private seceror leadership. Somebody not
:41:01. > :41:05.embracing the notion that America is in decline, is resonating, you
:41:06. > :41:13.will see that in the results in New Hampshire tonight. What made you
:41:13. > :41:18.change your mind about him. You talked about a year ago about
:41:18. > :41:22.Obamnicare, as if his healthcare plan was the same as Obama, that is
:41:22. > :41:28.toxic from some voters' point of view? On the issue of healthcare, I
:41:28. > :41:32.spent some time talking to him about this. He's committeded to
:41:32. > :41:36.repealing Obamacare, he said in his first few days of office he would
:41:36. > :41:40.issue executive orders to repeal it. He doesn't believe what he did in
:41:40. > :41:46.Massachusetts should be visited upon the nation at a federal level.
:41:46. > :41:52.He thinks each state should decide. I'm comfortable with the repeal
:41:52. > :41:56.Obamacare. If you look at the debate, the most steady person in
:41:56. > :42:00.the debate, the strongest position to take on Barack Obama. One of the
:42:00. > :42:03.most pressing issues for the country is growing the economy. The
:42:03. > :42:07.private sector economy, Mitt Romney can do that, Barack Obama has no
:42:07. > :42:14.clue. One of the problems, however, is a former Republican candidate
:42:14. > :42:17.put his fringeer on a couplele of years ago, -- finger on a couple of
:42:17. > :42:21.years ago. Mitt Romney doesn't look like the type of guy you would
:42:21. > :42:28.socialise with, but the type of guy who would close your factory. That
:42:28. > :42:33.is a problem for him? I grew up in a meat packing town, my dad was a
:42:33. > :42:37.truck driver for a long time, my mom died when I was young, we saw
:42:37. > :42:41.the shut down of many factories. We need somebody in office who knows
:42:41. > :42:44.how to get it this private economy moving again. That is not Barack
:42:45. > :42:49.Obama, the country has seen that. They know that Mitt Romney can do
:42:49. > :42:52.that. It is one of his strengths, actually. We shouldn't have this
:42:52. > :42:56.class warfare discussion, that is what democrats do, we should be
:42:56. > :43:01.about growing the pie overall, not have people fight over shrinking
:43:01. > :43:04.slices of the pie. You may be right, and your own personal story is very
:43:04. > :43:07.compelling, but Mitt Romney's is very different. He's one of the
:43:07. > :43:13.richest guys who has ever run for the presidency in recent years, for
:43:13. > :43:16.a major earth a, some people just don't like that? We don't have
:43:17. > :43:21.class warfare, that is what Barack Obama says. Newt Gingrich seems to
:43:21. > :43:25.disagree with you, I have been look at the Newt Gingrich ads, he seems
:43:25. > :43:30.to think you have class warfare? Very disappointing that Newt
:43:30. > :43:34.Gingrich or other Republicans would be criticising private enterprise.
:43:34. > :43:39.Criticising private investment. We should have a debate on the facts.
:43:39. > :43:43.They are taking the comment that Mit made, and the clip you played
:43:43. > :43:46.out context. You didn't play the whole clip. It was about Mitt
:43:46. > :43:50.Romney arguing being able to choose between healthcare companies, the
:43:50. > :43:54.question was asked in that context and he answered in that context,
:43:54. > :43:59.didn't say he just wanted to fire po. He was talking about people
:43:59. > :44:02.having a choice to choose health insurance companies. The clip you
:44:02. > :44:07.played and others played it are taking it out context. You are
:44:07. > :44:10.right the context. His rivals and Rick Perry is another one, says the
:44:11. > :44:14.only pink slips Mitt Romney worries about is having enough to hand
:44:14. > :44:19.out,s the kind tone of this campaign. Within the Republican
:44:19. > :44:23.party, which will be pick the up been I -- will be picked up by the
:44:23. > :44:26.Democrats in the autumn? You think in the light of day, when people
:44:26. > :44:30.see the facts, that he was talking about health insurance companies,
:44:30. > :44:34.will be fair about it. We have people exploiting it in this moment,
:44:34. > :44:36.in the end facts matter, the truth matters, the truth is he was
:44:36. > :44:40.talking about health insurance companies. Look at some of the
:44:40. > :44:44.other candidates as well. They all have their own challenge, Mitt
:44:44. > :44:47.Romney will be a great candidate and great President, he's not
:44:47. > :44:52.perfect. Beau but all the other candidates have concerns that
:44:52. > :44:57.people have expressed as well. will need a great vice-president,
:44:57. > :44:59.will you be that person? Your audio is cutting out on me a bit. If you
:44:59. > :45:04.are asking me about the vice- president position, that is
:45:04. > :45:09.something I won't consider, I have been down that road before with
:45:09. > :45:11.John McCain, I was honoured to be considered then, my job here is to
:45:11. > :45:18.help Mitt Romney as ale volume toorment
:45:18. > :45:28.Now a quick look -- as a volume toor.
:45:28. > :45:50.
:45:50. > :46:00.Now a quick -- volunteer. Now a That's all topt, I'm back tomorrow.
:46:00. > :46:23.
:46:23. > :46:29.Until then, -- tonight, I'm back Ap colder end to the week, a mild
:46:29. > :46:35.day on Wednesday. Mild, windy in the far north, and wet and dampness
:46:35. > :46:39.in the north England and Wales. Head down across the Midland, parts
:46:39. > :46:43.of north-east England. East Anglia and southern England, another
:46:43. > :46:47.lovely day. Broken cloud, rather more sunshine than on Tuesday
:46:47. > :46:53.across the south. Light winds shooting up into double figures.
:46:53. > :46:57.Ridiculous for the time of year, I'm sure you will agree. Across
:46:57. > :47:01.parts of England, elsewhere, cloudier, with dampness across snow
:47:02. > :47:05.downia throughout the day. Across the Irish see, some dry weather, a
:47:05. > :47:09.lot of cloud, drizzle from time to time. For Scotland, after a
:47:09. > :47:15.brightish start, will turn increasingly cloud kwhree, windy
:47:15. > :47:19.and wet. Particular -- wind cloudy, windy and wet. Particularly in
:47:19. > :47:23.association with a wet front. Introducing brighter conditions
:47:23. > :47:29.from the north, but chillier conditions as well. Bright, crisp,
:47:29. > :47:33.sunny end to the week for man places. Temperatures will take a