:00:13. > :00:16.Tonight, U makes its organisations promise a full inversion -- United
:00:16. > :00:22.Nations organisations promise a full investigation into killings in
:00:23. > :00:28.Syria. And point the finger at the Al-Assad regime. Has he committed
:00:28. > :00:30.war crimes. We ask ourselves, why you kill with him. As every day
:00:30. > :00:35.brings further atrocities, is Britain correct to suggest that
:00:35. > :00:38.Syria is on the brink of civil war. We speak to the UN Secretary-
:00:38. > :00:44.General for human rights, along with Paul Wolfowitz, and a friend
:00:44. > :00:48.of the Syrian Government. The old financial wisdom is if
:00:48. > :00:53.there is a queue at a bank, join it. It is happening in Spain, where the
:00:53. > :00:57.money is pouring out, is the EU ready for another major crisis. In
:00:57. > :01:01.London, the Chinese artist, Ai Weiwei's latest work, under
:01:01. > :01:05.constant surveillance at home, we have an exclusive interview with
:01:05. > :01:10.the man regarded as one of the Chinese Government's greatest
:01:10. > :01:20.critics. I like to come to London to say it. My current condition is
:01:20. > :01:21.
:01:21. > :01:25.not allowing me to travel. Good evening, the United Nations
:01:25. > :01:31.top human rights body has condemned the Al-Assad regime in Syria, for
:01:31. > :01:36.the massacre of more than 100 civilians in Houla last week. 49 of
:01:36. > :01:39.the victims were children under ten. The UN is suggested Syria is guilty
:01:39. > :01:43.of war crimes and wants an independent investigation. The real
:01:43. > :01:52.power at the UN lies with the Security Council, where Russia
:01:52. > :01:55.seems to be determined to stand but its ally. There are more reports
:01:55. > :02:05.that Syrian Government forces attacked 12 people on their way
:02:05. > :02:12.home from work. Three massacres in one week, ten
:02:12. > :02:17.men killed yesterday, ten corpes discovered on Tuesday, at least --
:02:17. > :02:21.copss, at least 100 people killed in Houla last Friday, many of them
:02:21. > :02:29.children. Are these deaths the tipping point for the outside world
:02:29. > :02:34.to intervene in Syria. The latest grizley video posted on-line by
:02:34. > :02:38.activists, are they say 11 bodies of plant workers and their driver,
:02:38. > :02:44.forced off a bus and killed by the regime. They stopped at a
:02:44. > :02:47.checkpoint. It is a group belonging to the Government, and paid by the
:02:47. > :02:54.Government. Probably professional killers. That can't be verified.
:02:54. > :03:01.But the role of the shabiha militia in the previous two atrocities, has
:03:01. > :03:07.been coroborated by UN observers. It all points, many believe, to an
:03:08. > :03:16.ever- more deadly sectarian divide. The exact make-up of Syria's
:03:16. > :03:26.population isn't known. But roughly, 70% are Sunni Muslim Arabs, 12%
:03:26. > :03:28.
:03:28. > :03:31.Alawites an offshoot of Shiaism, 9- 10% Kurds, and 6% Christian.
:03:31. > :03:36.Earlier this year Christian leaders told Newsnight they were worried
:03:36. > :03:40.about where the uprising will lead. It is all law Wights, like these in
:03:40. > :03:49.Homs, are the group that have gained most from the Al-Assad
:03:49. > :03:56.family, the all law Wights too, and have the most -- all -- alawites,
:03:56. > :03:59.and have the most to lose. They don't want to spread light on the
:03:59. > :04:06.on going conflict. The regime would like to wrap itself in the Syrian
:04:06. > :04:10.national flag, and doesn't want to expose the sectarian dimension. The
:04:10. > :04:20.revolutionaries don't want the world to perceive the Syrian
:04:20. > :04:21.
:04:21. > :04:27.revolution as one between Sunnis versus Alawites. The massacre in
:04:27. > :04:32.Houla is blamed by locals on killers from neighbouring Alawite
:04:32. > :04:38.villages. They call them shabiha, ghosts, the term for thug paid by
:04:38. > :04:42.the regime, most of them are Alawite, it is not clear in Houla
:04:42. > :04:51.whether they were shabiha or not, they are identified, primarily, by
:04:51. > :04:56.their religion. We know them by accent, most of them are Alawite.
:04:56. > :05:01.But these people, you call shabiha, Government thugs, aren't they
:05:01. > :05:07.simply ordinary villagers, neighbours of your's? Yes, yes, our
:05:07. > :05:13.neighbours for 100 years, we ask ourselves, why, why, we live
:05:13. > :05:19.together. We didn't hurt anyone of them, why? Why you stand like that
:05:19. > :05:21.with this regime? Why you kill with him? I find it very hard to believe
:05:21. > :05:25.that someone would accept payment to go and kill women and children.
:05:25. > :05:31.People sometimes get payment to fight, that's normal. But to kill
:05:31. > :05:36.women and children, that reflects a deep-seated hatred for the rival
:05:36. > :05:42.community. It reminds us of what happened in Bosnia, and also what
:05:42. > :05:49.happened in Rwanda. There is a very deep hatred within Syrian society
:05:49. > :05:53.that has been papered over for a long time. Today, the United
:05:53. > :05:58.Nations human rights council condemned Syria for the massacre.
:05:58. > :06:03.Though Syria itself blames anti- Government terrorists. TRANSLATION:
:06:03. > :06:06.It's now a familiar pattern for armed terrorist gangs to carry out
:06:06. > :06:11.massacre, immediately before UN Security Council meetings, or a
:06:11. > :06:15.visit to Damascus by the UN Special Envoy, precisely to lead to special
:06:15. > :06:20.sessions, hostile to Syria, like this one today.
:06:20. > :06:29.But the UN has found no effective way of putting pressure on the Al-
:06:29. > :06:32.Assad regime, despite its warnings of civil war.
:06:32. > :06:39.Outside observers have been predicting civil war in Syria for
:06:39. > :06:44.the best part of a year already, it is an unequal struggle still, that
:06:44. > :06:49.doesn't quite justify that term. The opposition controls no major
:06:49. > :06:53.stretch of territory, it is vastly outgunned by Government forces, and
:06:53. > :06:59.its leadership is riven with political division, while the
:06:59. > :07:06.regime remains remarkably united. The best weapon we have is RB J,
:07:06. > :07:13.made by Russia. This, this used against tanks, what we have from
:07:13. > :07:19.the free army, and their weapons, it is just for defending, our
:07:19. > :07:23.defence, our families. The danger is not even just the
:07:23. > :07:27.civil war within Syria, but then you have to look at who is arming
:07:27. > :07:34.their position, where is the money coming from. And is it likely that
:07:34. > :07:38.a war in Syria will spill over and become a regional conflict.
:07:38. > :07:45.This week's killings can only fuel a cycle of revenge. But it may
:07:45. > :07:51.prove not a tipping point, but just part of the slow descent into chaos.
:07:51. > :07:55.In New York, we have the UN assistant secretary-general for
:07:55. > :07:58.human rights. In Washington we are joined by the former US Defence
:07:58. > :08:03.Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, and we have the Syrian businessman in
:08:03. > :08:07.favour of regime reform, and not change.
:08:07. > :08:14.Are you absolutely clear that the Syrian Government is, in some cases,
:08:14. > :08:20.deliberately organising the killing of civilians? I am now not
:08:20. > :08:26.referring to this latest incident. For this latest incident the
:08:27. > :08:36.available data pointing out to the responsibility of the pro-regime
:08:37. > :08:37.
:08:37. > :08:45.forces, it concerns the use of heavy artillery, but also the
:08:45. > :08:49.alleged activity of the shabiha militia. It has still to be
:08:49. > :08:53.investigated. On previous cases it was established beyond a doubt that
:08:53. > :08:57.there were grave widespread violations of human rights, that
:08:57. > :09:03.may amount to crimes against humanity. That may amount to crimes
:09:03. > :09:10.against humanity, conducted by the regime? By various people acting on
:09:10. > :09:15.behalf of the regime, the crimes of humanity always have their
:09:15. > :09:19.individual perpetrator. Right, but if you believe that there are war
:09:19. > :09:25.criminals, or potentialal war criminals, realistically, what can
:09:25. > :09:27.you do, -- potential war criminals, realistically what can you do, with
:09:27. > :09:31.the International Criminal Court, and Russia not wanting to do, that
:09:31. > :09:35.they are in a pivitol position in the Security Council. In other
:09:35. > :09:40.words, nothing will happen? We did, as the office of human rights,
:09:40. > :09:47.encourage the Security Council to refer the situation in Syria, to
:09:47. > :09:52.the ICC. If I may remind you, that today's resolution of the human
:09:52. > :09:56.rights council, recognise collects the invitation of the High
:09:56. > :09:59.Commisioner to refer the case to the International Criminal Court.
:09:59. > :10:03.don't think anybody is doubting your good faith in this, but when
:10:03. > :10:09.do you actually expect anything to happen, given the position of
:10:09. > :10:16.Russia, which it can use its veto? Russia definitely has a high
:10:16. > :10:24.leverage in Syria. What is important is that this leverage is
:10:24. > :10:29.put to the positive impact on the developments. I think that the
:10:29. > :10:34.votes that were supporting the resolution of the human rights
:10:34. > :10:43.council resolution today are quite indicative. They were there were 41
:10:43. > :10:48.votes for the resolution, just three against, and two abstentions.
:10:48. > :10:53.But -- But those massacres were carried out under what was supposed
:10:53. > :10:58.to be the Kofi Annan ceasefire. You have to accept that the world, full
:10:58. > :11:03.of good intention, can't do it? sharing completely that frustration.
:11:03. > :11:11.The result of such a from us straigs is also the forth coming
:11:11. > :11:15.initiative on -- -- frustration is also the forthcoming initiative on
:11:15. > :11:19.Syria. Joining us from Washington is Paul Wolfowitz, what concrete
:11:19. > :11:25.measures do you think the US do Co Do, if there was a political will
:11:25. > :11:35.to -- could do, if there was a political will to do it, and if the
:11:35. > :11:39.
:11:39. > :11:44.Allies would follow? Kofi Annan said a few years back, in the
:11:44. > :11:49.greatest hour of need the world failed Rwanda, the United Nations
:11:49. > :11:52.couldn't muster the will to help them. And after the massacre in
:11:52. > :11:55.Srebrenica, it was said it would forever haunt the United Nations.
:11:55. > :11:58.We have another charade going on, where the international community
:11:58. > :12:04.does nothing, while people were slaughtered. The recent massacre
:12:04. > :12:09.was terrible, but put it in the context of 10,000 personnel killed
:12:09. > :12:12.since all of this began. It is time to say this regime is serious only
:12:12. > :12:15.about killing its people, and until the world gets serious about
:12:15. > :12:24.helping the opposition to organise, the killing won't stop. The key is
:12:24. > :12:29.to stop the killing. That will happen when Assad's killers decide
:12:29. > :12:33.the future doesn't lie with him but with a new regime. The world wants
:12:33. > :12:36.rid of Bashar Al-Assad? That is the problem we are having, the world is
:12:36. > :12:41.very much preoccupied with the removal of President Al-Assad, it
:12:41. > :12:47.is not looking at the prosperity of the Syrian people. The prosperity
:12:47. > :12:53.of the Syrian people would be improved significantly if Mr Assad
:12:53. > :12:56.was not encouraging them to murder his own people? The United Nations
:12:56. > :12:59.sometimes gets it wrong, and with this Houla massacre, we have the
:13:00. > :13:03.names of people killed, we know that the two families targeted and
:13:03. > :13:07.slain in cold blood, are pro- Government families. One of them is
:13:07. > :13:11.the extended family of a newly- elected MP of the region. As you
:13:11. > :13:15.well know it is a pattern of behaviour. Not just this regime,
:13:16. > :13:24.his father, it is family tradition of the Assads, to murder people who
:13:24. > :13:32.get in their way Thousands were killed -- In, thousands were killed
:13:32. > :13:36.in 1982. Why would anyone believe that heavy weapons are being used
:13:36. > :13:40.against people, women and children? The fact of the two families tells
:13:40. > :13:48.you it was not the Government. UN has got it wrong, and you are
:13:48. > :13:55.sitting in London with me and they are in in country? The two families
:13:55. > :13:59.did not fund the rebels or they were part of the newly elected
:13:59. > :14:06.person, people didn't like that. you worry with the sectarian make
:14:06. > :14:09.up of the country, do you worry that any intervention could further
:14:09. > :14:13.destablise things and lead to sectarian warfare? You have
:14:13. > :14:18.sectarian warfare now. You have a civil war right now as one of your
:14:18. > :14:23.speakers said earlier, it is a civil war where only one side is
:14:23. > :14:33.armed. There are very bad outcomes that come out of all of this, the
:14:33. > :14:33.
:14:33. > :14:38.longer the bloodshed goes on the worse the bloodshed will be. As
:14:38. > :14:44.long as the world tolerates it and sits on their hands, it will be
:14:44. > :14:47.left to extremists from the outside to come in and radicalise the
:14:47. > :14:51.situation. There is no magic solution, I think it would be a
:14:51. > :14:56.better outcome if the international community, and there are many
:14:56. > :14:59.others besides the United States who I think are ready to step in,
:14:59. > :15:03.notably Turkey and Saudi Arabia. They could come together, not only
:15:03. > :15:07.to strengthen the opposition, which is essential, but also to get them
:15:07. > :15:11.to commit to a subsequent regime that would protect minorities,
:15:11. > :15:16.protect the Christian community, even protect the Alawites. That is
:15:16. > :15:19.what it should be. As you rightly said, stopping the killing,
:15:19. > :15:23.undoubtedly, should be the first priority, in order to dough that,
:15:23. > :15:29.would that take some kind of military activity, safe haven, and
:15:29. > :15:34.perhaps the use of force. That, presumably is what puts the Obama
:15:34. > :15:38.administration off contemplating it? Well, you know, the Bush
:15:38. > :15:45.administration, in 1992, was off contemplating arming the Bosnian,
:15:45. > :15:49.so that conflict went on for three body years. -- bloody years, it sat
:15:49. > :15:56.on its hands while Saddam slaughtered the Shia, and we had
:15:56. > :16:00.him in power for another dozen years. It may seem like the right
:16:00. > :16:05.course, but you pay a heavy price. I think creating conditions where
:16:05. > :16:09.the Syrian army can abandon Assad really should be the objective.
:16:09. > :16:14.Mr Simonovic, do you worry that perhaps the UN people in Syria have
:16:14. > :16:18.got had wrong, and, in fact, some of these massacres are not being
:16:18. > :16:28.carried out by people paid for, or supporting the regime, but the
:16:28. > :16:29.
:16:29. > :16:35.result of other kinds of feuds? got from the Syrian Government
:16:35. > :16:41.saying they have proof that the Houla massacre has been committed
:16:41. > :16:44.by the terrorists. But if this is so, why not let the International
:16:44. > :16:50.Commission of Inquiry, which has been established which the human
:16:50. > :16:57.rights council in. And establishing fact beyond any doubt. So I think
:16:57. > :17:02.this is an open invitation to the Government, if they really believe
:17:02. > :17:05.that the truth should be established. To enable
:17:05. > :17:09.international organisations qualified to do so to be active in
:17:09. > :17:13.this way. Mr Simonovic, just want to ask, we are running out of time,
:17:13. > :17:18.I wondered if you fear listening to Mr Wolfowitz there, that we might
:17:18. > :17:22.see another verb nies nieceia and Rwanda, people -- Srebrenica, and
:17:22. > :17:27.people wanting to do things, but not able to do it? What I believe
:17:27. > :17:31.very strongly, is there must be a clear perspective for Syria, for
:17:31. > :17:36.various ethnic groups. And that their human rights must be
:17:36. > :17:39.guaranteeed. There must be power sharing arrangements with the
:17:39. > :17:43.ethnic and religious representations in such an
:17:43. > :17:50.arrangement. I think that the problem of Syria at the moment is
:17:50. > :17:54.that many people feel insecure and this is the reason why we do not
:17:54. > :17:58.succeed in implementing the ceasefire, and other things
:17:58. > :18:02.envisaged in the announcement. Thank you all very much.
:18:02. > :18:06.It was worse than expected, US job figures that sent markets tumbling
:18:06. > :18:09.today. But America's unemployment level would be the envy of some
:18:09. > :18:13.eurozone countries. In particular, Spain, a quarter of the population
:18:13. > :18:15.is now out of work. There is a real sense of apprehension, even fear in
:18:15. > :18:18.Spain, about what might be happening to the country's banks.
:18:18. > :18:23.And whether, after all the problems with Greece, the European Union
:18:23. > :18:29.might be able to offer adequate help, or not. Our Economics Editor
:18:29. > :18:34.is in Seville tonight. How are things there? Gavin, if Spain is
:18:34. > :18:43.now the new frontline of the euro crisis, it is places like this,
:18:43. > :18:50.Seville in the autonomous region of Andrews will you see ya, a poor --
:18:50. > :18:55.Andulucia, a very poor area, if the region's fortunes means knuckling
:18:55. > :18:59.down to what the central Government is telling them to do, the old
:18:59. > :19:06.friend, austerity. The wider issue becomes clear once you stand took
:19:06. > :19:09.in Spain and look at the numbers. The Spanish Government revealed
:19:09. > :19:15.yesterday that 100 billion euros had fled the country, in the first
:19:15. > :19:20.three months of this year. Spain is running a budget deficit at 8.9%,
:19:20. > :19:28.and rising. One troubled bank, Bankia, is now calculated as
:19:28. > :19:33.needing a bail out of 29 billion euros, and the rest of the banking
:19:33. > :19:39.sector, crippled by bad mortgage, needs in secs of 60 billion.
:19:39. > :19:44.Unemployment is 24%, GDP is set to fall 1.7% this year. The European
:19:44. > :19:48.Union has a bail out fund of around 200 billion euros to play with,
:19:48. > :19:55.together with the IMF. Bail out is not a word the Conservative
:19:55. > :20:03.Government in Spain wants to hear. What do you see as absolutely the
:20:03. > :20:07.core problem they face? They face two problems. Two crises. There is
:20:07. > :20:11.the hot crises of the banks, and the old cold crisis of the
:20:11. > :20:17.shrinking economy. Consumer spending here has fallen
:20:17. > :20:20.by 10% in a year. Imagine the effect on shops, on the market
:20:20. > :20:25.stalls, on the cafes behind me on the river front. That is one thing.
:20:25. > :20:28.You can cope with it. If you have to then on top of that do austerity,
:20:28. > :20:33.especially in a place like this, the poor region. It becomes hard,
:20:34. > :20:42.people get sacked, more people get sacked. Now, then you get the banks.
:20:42. > :20:46.One of the bosses of the Spanish banks said today that the situation
:20:46. > :20:51.is absolutely citka. Each time they calculate how much it will cost to
:20:51. > :20:56.bail the banks out it goes up, something has to happen soon.
:20:56. > :21:02.Germany they think maybe Angela Merkel has spent so much political
:21:02. > :21:06.Capaldial and lun -- capital and money on Greece, what else can she
:21:06. > :21:10.do? I think we are a couple of weeks to play with. But this is the
:21:10. > :21:14.problem, actually, what they tried to do this week, what they have
:21:14. > :21:18.mooted. They are in danger of getting a bail out sequence right.
:21:18. > :21:23.First of all, they are trying to do something early, with banking
:21:23. > :21:27.system that is savable. Maybe it is 100 billion, maybe 150 billion,
:21:27. > :21:30.that is safeable, because Europe and the IMF have that money. They
:21:30. > :21:33.are saying, let's pump the money straight into the banks and
:21:33. > :21:38.stablise them. Remember, these are banks of major economies, you can't
:21:39. > :21:42.let them go down. However, that's not what the Germans want to do.
:21:42. > :21:47.That is the problem. It is all, we are back to the two list, things
:21:47. > :21:52.that work, things that are acceptable to Germany. The problem,
:21:53. > :21:57.of course, is if you do pump money straight into banks, you can't then
:21:57. > :22:01.knock on the door of the Prime Minister, Mr Rajoy, and say do a
:22:01. > :22:05.lot of austerity, do what we demand, do more, which is what happened in
:22:05. > :22:08.Greece. We are at a place where the Spanish could redefine what a
:22:08. > :22:13.European bail out means. It is almost led by the country itself.
:22:13. > :22:18.It is a little bit more humane. But the inability to agree on that is
:22:18. > :22:27.what is stopping it. Hold your breath, for a bit. We are not going
:22:27. > :22:30.to get a bail out in the next few days. For the last 12 years
:22:30. > :22:36.Serpentine Gallery Pavilion has commissioned a summer pavilion.
:22:36. > :22:45.They chose the team responsible for bay ying's famous Bird, the artist
:22:45. > :22:50.on that team -- Bird'S Nest stadium. The artist on that team is Ai
:22:50. > :22:54.Weiwei. He's known for his strong and
:22:54. > :22:58.outspoken criticism of the Chinese Government, and also his art. His
:22:58. > :23:02.latest project was Art Under Severe Pressure.
:23:02. > :23:12.The lower level of the pavilion, cut more than a metre deep into the
:23:12. > :23:19.earth, is lined with cork. A nod to the archaeology of its 11
:23:19. > :23:25.predecessors below, it is filled with a shallow water, creating a
:23:25. > :23:29.mirror for the sky. The artist, Ai Weiwei, was not present for the
:23:29. > :23:34.unveiling and the creation of the work. Due to problems back home, he
:23:34. > :23:41.may never see his creation. Because of his criticisms of the Chinese
:23:41. > :23:45.Government, Ai Weiwei has been under constant surveillance and is
:23:45. > :23:51.forbidden from leaving Beijing. He was arrested last year on
:23:51. > :23:56.accusations of tax evasion, and this artist contributed to this
:23:56. > :23:59.extraordinary project, by using Skype. The pavilion's architecture,
:23:59. > :24:03.Ai Weiwei says, is not only about space and shape, but the
:24:03. > :24:10.circumstances we find ourselves in, our mental state. And our political
:24:10. > :24:16.background. Another Chinese Government critic,
:24:16. > :24:22.the blind activist, change change change, has fled the country and
:24:22. > :24:26.taken up an academic post in the United States. He said the Chinese
:24:26. > :24:30.Government is slowly moving on human rights, largely because of
:24:30. > :24:34.the internet and Twitter. He said this from the freedom of exile. The
:24:34. > :24:38.power of social media is something Ai Weiwei deploys in his protests
:24:38. > :24:43.against the Chinese thords, and they, in turn, seek to limb --
:24:43. > :24:47.authorities, and they, in turn, seek to limit his activities. I
:24:47. > :24:57.asked him if there was any chance he could come to London to see his
:24:57. > :24:57.
:24:57. > :25:02.work? I would like to come to London, to be able to see it. As an
:25:02. > :25:10.architect we are responsible to what we have been intending to do.
:25:10. > :25:15.And also we would like to see how other people enjoy our art or
:25:15. > :25:20.criticise it. But, of course, my current condition is not allowing
:25:21. > :25:29.me to travel. What's your current condition? What's life like for you
:25:30. > :25:39.every day? My current condition is that my current condition of myself
:25:40. > :25:42.
:25:43. > :25:50.is not very clear. It is funny say, it is that I'm still leaving --
:25:51. > :25:59.living under house arrest. It is kind of probation, but I never
:25:59. > :26:05.really faced formal arrest or formal accusations. That's my
:26:05. > :26:11.current condition, which forbids me to travel. My action has been
:26:11. > :26:16.carefully watched. By the authorities. My phone was tapped.
:26:16. > :26:20.You know, all my activities are regulated.
:26:20. > :26:29.Life is not very easy. In terms of your art, how important is Twitter
:26:29. > :26:39.as a medium for your art. You have a massive following on Twitter?
:26:39. > :26:39.
:26:39. > :26:49.course all my internet activity is forbidden. But I still manage to
:26:49. > :26:51.
:26:51. > :26:55.jump on computer, in China you have to get on through -- twitter is not
:26:55. > :27:00.allowed in China, you have to get on through special technology, so I
:27:00. > :27:03.can do that. I can focus on other art activities. Do you think the
:27:03. > :27:10.west is doing enough to encourage these trends in China, or is the
:27:10. > :27:19.west rather frightened to speak out, because of China's economic power?
:27:19. > :27:29.Yes, this is a very clear phenomenon of the west. Also the
:27:29. > :27:30.
:27:30. > :27:37.west should remember to promote and to protect the basic rights, and to
:27:37. > :27:43.insist on human rights. It was said in New York yesterday that there
:27:43. > :27:53.was optimisim that things would get better in China, do you share that?
:27:53. > :27:54.
:27:54. > :28:03.We all share the same hope. Within China it is changing, and there
:28:03. > :28:09.will be more dramatic changes. I don't think any state can
:28:09. > :28:19.sacrifice those very essential ways, like freedom of expression, or
:28:19. > :28:21.
:28:21. > :28:27.freedom of communication, to achieve real social development. We
:28:27. > :28:37.can see China today, still lacking of creativity, still lacking of
:28:37. > :28:43.
:28:43. > :28:47.real competition, trying to get its values from very short-sighted acts.
:28:47. > :28:57.It is not going to be a long lasting result.
:28:57. > :28:58.
:28:58. > :29:03.As you know, Cenvancheng has left China, are you going to remain?
:29:03. > :29:12.still Chinese, I still have to solve the problem here, in China.
:29:12. > :29:19.Despite the difficulties you face every day? Yes, those difficulties
:29:19. > :29:27.are sometimes severe and unbearable. But still, it gives some meaning to
:29:27. > :29:34.be here. Because those difficulties are not only to me, but also to a
:29:34. > :29:38.lot of people here. Thank you very much.
:29:38. > :29:43.For a word about what's coming up on the review show after Newsnight,
:29:43. > :29:49.here is Kirsty. With almost as much fanfare as the
:29:49. > :29:53.Jubilee, Ridley Scott's return to sci-fi after many years with
:29:53. > :29:57.Prometheus. I will speak to Tracey Emin about her exhibition in
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