:00:08. > :00:11.Tonight a strike by border guards on the eve of the Olympics. It
:00:11. > :00:16.threatens chaos at Heathrow on what's expected to be the airport's
:00:16. > :00:20.busiest day ever with more than a 100,000 people arriving. The Home
:00:20. > :00:22.Secretary says it's "shameful." The union says it's a "last resort."
:00:22. > :00:27.We'll debate the rights and wrongs in yet another operational setback
:00:27. > :00:31.for the Government. The millions of malnourished children in an
:00:31. > :00:37.epidemic of hunger in Yemen. It's an Arab Spring country gone
:00:37. > :00:41.unnoticed and now starving. Little Abdullah here is typical of so many
:00:41. > :00:46.of the kids we've been seeing - if you look at his arms there is no
:00:46. > :00:49.body fat on him at all. Who will be the new Sheriff of Nottingham and
:00:49. > :00:53.towns and cities across England and Wales? Police Commissioners will be
:00:53. > :00:56.elected in November - but will anyone turn out to vote? What
:00:56. > :00:59.difference will they make? And should they be politicians like
:00:59. > :01:04.John Prescott or perhaps former police officers - we'll ask two
:01:04. > :01:08.candidates for the posts plus the current head of ACPO. Don't do this
:01:08. > :01:18.at home - the BBC's paid a lot to play with these Olympic rings - but
:01:18. > :01:28.there are some things even we can't say. During the summer bleep, being
:01:28. > :01:30.
:01:30. > :01:34.that according to a law, the... Had imposed upon them. Good evening,
:01:34. > :01:42.for years, campaigners of various sorts tried to use the Olympics to
:01:42. > :01:49.make a political point. Next week on the eve. The Games, PCS the
:01:49. > :01:55.union representing border officers, and representative staff are in a
:01:55. > :01:58.long standing strike about rows. Thousands of travellers expected
:01:58. > :02:03.that day, there's potential of chaos at the start of what should
:02:03. > :02:07.be one of the greatest sporting events everyone witnessed. But is
:02:07. > :02:16.the union following others in senting a good day to make a point
:02:16. > :02:20.or as the union suggests is will no attempt to disrupt the Games.
:02:20. > :02:26.up Sod's Law in the dictionary and it says if someone can go wrong and
:02:26. > :02:28.turn out inappropriately it will. Just ask this Government t could
:02:29. > :02:33.stand for Serwotka's Olympic Disaster Scheme scheme, striking
:02:33. > :02:37.border guards on potentially the busiest day in Heathrow, could
:02:37. > :02:43.leave the coalition more red-faced on the biggest stage of them all.
:02:43. > :02:47.First it was the weather, torrential rain so unseasonal it
:02:47. > :02:54.threatened to extinguish the Olympics flame. Then athletes on
:02:54. > :02:59.four hours of bus journeys using games less. And G4, lots of staff
:02:59. > :03:05.haven't turned up to work, leaving it to the army and police which
:03:05. > :03:10.haven't yet been outsourced. But G4 is over a crate of champagne, to
:03:10. > :03:14.deflecting the public's wrath on them on to border staff. I hope the
:03:14. > :03:17.people understand the issues, because I hope they struggle to
:03:17. > :03:23.understand why for 18 months the Government refused to ingauge on
:03:23. > :03:27.any of the issues. I hope they'd understand one day of disruption is
:03:27. > :03:31.regrettable but better than having 365 days a year, where people are
:03:31. > :03:34.comeing to this country and queuing for three or four years, where they
:03:34. > :03:38.can't get a passport or proper service. The backlash has been
:03:38. > :03:42.swift and angry. Well I think that is shameful, frankly, they are
:03:42. > :03:49.holding a strike on what is the key days for people coming into this
:03:49. > :03:55.country, for the Olympic Games. think the immigration officers are
:03:55. > :04:02.deeply patriotic but to threaten us is totally inappropriate. The mayor
:04:02. > :04:07.was adopting a comecal alley stance. I don't think they'll succeed in
:04:07. > :04:11.disrupting the Olympics. Ironically it was Boris Johnson who agreed to
:04:11. > :04:16.massive payoffs to avoid strikes in the Olympics. Tube drivers are
:04:16. > :04:23.getting �750 on top of the usual overtime payments and robust
:04:24. > :04:28.salaries. London bus drivers secured an extra �577 for their
:04:28. > :04:33.workload, while Heathrow Express drivers negotiateed �700. The
:04:33. > :04:38.Docklands light rail stach will be getting �900 even though they don't
:04:38. > :04:46.have any drivers. 450 ASLEF workers will still be going out on strike
:04:46. > :04:49.between August 67th and 8th in a disput over pension contributions.
:04:49. > :04:54.On an ordinary summer's day, Heathrow can process up to 100,000
:04:54. > :04:58.passports. But July, 6th is no ordinary day. It is potentially the
:04:58. > :05:02.airport's busiest ever, as thousands of extra athletes,
:05:02. > :05:05.dignitaries and ordinary passengers, arrive ahead of the Olympics
:05:05. > :05:09.Opening Ceremony. The US Border Agency say they've trained up 500
:05:09. > :05:15.staff to help out and that things went smoothly, the last time there
:05:15. > :05:23.was a strike, two months ago. Then there's the issue of strike
:05:23. > :05:30.ballots, 20% border staff took part in a bat lot, meaning 11% voted for
:05:30. > :05:35.the walkout. With issues like this, may force the balloting laws back
:05:35. > :05:40.in the agenda. We're joined by Liverpool, by Paul O'Connor, Mr
:05:40. > :05:45.O'Connor why is your union trying to disrupt the Olympics? We're not
:05:45. > :05:48.trying to disrupt the Olympics. These are issues live for a long
:05:48. > :05:56.time. Sorry, excuse me, they have been for a long time, so you could
:05:56. > :06:01.have picked any day, any of the 365 days to have this action, you know
:06:01. > :06:05.it will cause maximum disruption? We table the demands to the
:06:05. > :06:11.Government and employer 18 months ago, since that date, they've done
:06:11. > :06:17.nothing, they've been intransigent in the extreme. What they've been
:06:17. > :06:21.engaged is a further staff... are going to disrupt. Chaos at the
:06:21. > :06:25.borders and passport officers, this is the shambles the Government is
:06:25. > :06:28.presiding over. You are prepared to disrupt the Olympics for 18 months
:06:28. > :06:33.they haven't talked to you, that's why? This isn't about the Olympics
:06:33. > :06:36.for us. It is for all the people arriving. This is a disrut going on
:06:36. > :06:40.for 18 months, our members are clear this is a plan, that could go
:06:41. > :06:45.on, until the Autumn, there could be action. You could have action
:06:45. > :06:49.then. So you don't need action next week. The problem is the Government
:06:49. > :06:53.is whipping up hysteria around the Olympics. It seemed to have woken
:06:53. > :06:57.up to the fact the issues are on the table. Jobs are going, chaos at
:06:57. > :07:03.the borders and it needs sorting out. Which I'm ready to negotiate a
:07:03. > :07:07.settlement with them, all they need to do is come to the table rather
:07:07. > :07:11.engaging in this damaging talk. don't think in any way it damages
:07:11. > :07:15.your case, serious case about jobs and conditions, that on the biggest
:07:15. > :07:19.sporting event most of us have ever witnessed, when people are coming
:07:19. > :07:23.to this country and we want to put on a good show, one in ten members
:07:23. > :07:28.voted in favour of this, and you think you have a man date to
:07:28. > :07:30.disrupt the Olympics? We have been making our case for 18 months, it
:07:30. > :07:34.is the Government that is intransigent in the negotiations.
:07:34. > :07:38.They need to come to the table with us, over the next week. We don't
:07:38. > :07:41.want to see a strike go ahead there. Is time to avoid that. But the
:07:41. > :07:45.Government needs to negotiate, seriously on the issues that matter.
:07:45. > :07:49.Which is public service delivery, that the people of this country
:07:49. > :07:54.deserve, 365 days a year. So it is blackmail really? It is not
:07:54. > :07:58.blackmail at all. Our members care very, very profoundly about the
:07:58. > :08:03.public services, they deliver, they want safe and secure borders. They
:08:03. > :08:06.want people to be able to go in a passport office and not be told in
:08:06. > :08:10.London they need a appointment in Belfast. It is in the Government's
:08:10. > :08:13.best interests to man and staff those public services, properly,
:08:13. > :08:17.and they need to come to the table and negotiate with us. Thank you
:08:17. > :08:20.very much. Damian Green, why have you been caught up with this
:08:21. > :08:27.hysteria, when Boris Johnson is saying it won't disrupt the
:08:27. > :08:32.Olympics at all? I'm not caught up with hysteria at all. I had a
:08:32. > :08:37.meeting with Paul two weeks ago, he sat opposite across my table,
:08:37. > :08:41.talking to me. But he didn't get anywhere? Our officials at the hofs
:08:41. > :08:46.is negotiating all the time. That line is wrong. The most important
:08:46. > :08:50.thing is PCS members don't want the strike to happen. Some do, the
:08:50. > :08:55.majority who voted. Seven out of eight didn't vote for a strike,
:08:55. > :09:00.they don't want to go on strike, as Jeremy Hunt said they're patriotic
:09:00. > :09:03.and care about the reputation of the country, it is a small group in
:09:03. > :09:07.the leadership, that is behaving disgracefully, trying to make
:09:07. > :09:13.capital out of the Olympics, when it should be a great celebration.
:09:13. > :09:18.Will it result in a mess? It need not to, we called two strikes in
:09:18. > :09:27.the past year, which haven't caused too much disruption to Heathrow.
:09:27. > :09:31.And, as, the report said, we have got continge Genesis in place.
:09:31. > :09:36.is the contingency Olympics. You have the volunteers and army. It is
:09:36. > :09:40.not the professionals. We trained people for months, we've got 500 of
:09:40. > :09:44.them extra working at the borders,00 at Heathrow. And anyone
:09:44. > :09:49.who is travelling through Heathrow knows, it is working extremely
:09:49. > :09:53.smoothly, it is a huge success the operation at Heathrow. The big
:09:53. > :09:57.bulge of people arriving hasn't happened and it will happen that
:09:57. > :10:02.day. You can't guarantee next Thursday will be a big problem?
:10:02. > :10:06.don't know, what level, first of all of people from the PCS will go
:10:06. > :10:11.on strike, I hope they don't. They're not enthusiastic for this
:10:11. > :10:14.strike. Members of other unions won't be striking and we do have a
:10:14. > :10:19.large number of civil servants from other parts of Whitehall already
:10:20. > :10:28.trained and working there. Why did the Home Secretary tell us that she
:10:28. > :10:33.first became aware the G4 fiasco on July 211th and she knew two weeks
:10:34. > :10:37.earlier? What happened on 27th of June, G4 said they were behind and
:10:37. > :10:44.confident they would, have the numbers they promotioned, it was
:10:44. > :10:48.only on July 11th that G4 said we're not going to get the numbers
:10:48. > :10:52.we wanted, which plans that had been put in place in advance were
:10:52. > :11:00.put into action. The chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee
:11:00. > :11:05.isn't taking that view, and says there must be concerns, because 75
:11:05. > :11:09.personnel were deployed. G4 came to the Government and said we might
:11:09. > :11:14.not make our numbers. The Government sensibly said, OK, fine,
:11:14. > :11:22.let's make sure we've got military Pec knell in reserve. It wasn't the
:11:22. > :11:26.first you knew about it, the 11th of July. It crystalised on July 119.
:11:26. > :11:30.What they were saying up to then, is they were going to make their
:11:30. > :11:35.numbers, they will make it up, what happened on July 11, is G4 said
:11:35. > :11:40.they're not going to make their numbers. What will make to the
:11:40. > :11:45.amendment fee, what will happen to what they're paid, how much will
:11:45. > :11:52.the taxpayer be paying? That will be sorting out after the Olympics.
:11:52. > :12:00.They have already the 57 million. There will clearly need to be a big
:12:00. > :12:04.investigation into what happened inside G4S. You might want to claw
:12:04. > :12:08.some money back? That will happen after the Olympics. Thank you very
:12:08. > :12:12.much. Now, there's the beginings of a humanitarian catastrophe in one
:12:13. > :12:16.of the countries touched of the Arab Spring. Yemen has been racked
:12:16. > :12:20.by political turmoil. Millions are going hungry and worse. According
:12:20. > :12:27.to the United Nations, nearly half the population, on ten million
:12:27. > :12:31.people have limited or no access to sufficient food and 47% of children
:12:31. > :12:41.under five years old are malnurished. The worse area is in
:12:41. > :12:45.
:12:45. > :12:50.the west of the country. The face This baby is clinging to
:12:50. > :12:54.consciousness, barely clinging to life. A one-year-old who weighs as
:12:54. > :13:04.much as a newborn baby. You don't need the scales to know
:13:04. > :13:05.
:13:05. > :13:10.this child needs help, now. Like so many young victims of Yemen's
:13:10. > :13:16.hunger epidemic, his health is failing, he is rushed to the ward.
:13:16. > :13:25.He is struggling to breathe, his body weakened by chronic
:13:25. > :13:34.TRANSLATION: There are a lot of cases, a lot of cases. Yes they
:13:34. > :13:42.really are in danger of dying. the next bed, Marem another of the
:13:42. > :13:48.250 million children who are so malnurished, they could die. So we
:13:48. > :13:51.head out into a country which has a long history of poverty and
:13:51. > :14:01.hardship. What's happening today away from the eyes of the outside
:14:01. > :14:01.
:14:01. > :14:11.world, is something different. In the remote village, the evidence is
:14:11. > :14:13.
:14:13. > :14:23.And as always, it is the very youngest in this tiny community who
:14:23. > :14:27.are the most vulnerable. The most at risk. For this woman, watching
:14:27. > :14:32.her eighth month old suffer is agony.
:14:32. > :14:40.TRANSLATION: I'm really scared. I would die if it he dies.
:14:40. > :14:43.I'm sick with worry, it makes me so sad to see my son in pain.
:14:43. > :14:48.Little Abdullah is typical of so many of the kids we've been seeing.
:14:48. > :14:52.His arms there's no body fat on him at all. And the reason is
:14:52. > :14:57.absolutely a simple one, the mums are telling us, they just don't
:14:57. > :15:06.have enough food in their homes to keep their children healthy. And in
:15:06. > :15:14.some cases to keep kids like Abdullah, alive. I go to visit
:15:14. > :15:24.Abdullah's family, it is clear they're dirt poor. Is it OK to come
:15:24. > :15:28.
:15:28. > :15:33.This cramped place is where six people live and two children have
:15:33. > :15:38.died of malnutrition. Across generations hunger is part of what
:15:38. > :15:44.passes for daily life. If tonight they look and there's no food, what
:15:44. > :15:54.can they do?. TRANSLATION: We sleep and we pray.
:15:54. > :16:00.What else can we do? Force God to feed us, so we sleep. On the edge
:16:00. > :16:04.of the village the graves of Abdullah a's brother and sister,
:16:04. > :16:11.just a few rocks and soon it will be hard to tell there's anything
:16:11. > :16:16.here at all. But there will be more graves in villages across Yemen.
:16:16. > :16:20.That's what these mothers are desperate to prevent. They crowd
:16:20. > :16:27.into the sweltering district hospital looking for food, looking
:16:27. > :16:32.for medicine. In a country, where poverty is regarded as shameful,
:16:32. > :16:39.where women are veiled and withdrawn, the mothers here surgeon
:16:39. > :16:42.forward holding up their emaciated babies. This may not look like the
:16:42. > :16:48.classic images we see from trick Africa but what better illustration
:16:48. > :16:53.there is hunger here and now in this country. There is some help
:16:53. > :16:58.here, but not enough. Last week, supplies of specialist baby food
:16:58. > :17:04.ran out. There was no money for fuel to pick up more. The aid
:17:04. > :17:10.operation, such as it is, is running on empty. You're a doctor,
:17:10. > :17:14.it is your job to look after children, does this make you sad
:17:14. > :17:18.and angry? TRANSLATION: Very sad and very
:17:18. > :17:23.angry. TRANSLATION: I never imagine we
:17:23. > :17:28.would face a crisis like this, and it is only getting worse. Why does
:17:28. > :17:33.it make you angry? TRANSLATION: Because we can't help
:17:34. > :17:39.all of them. What we can do is really limited. We can't reach all
:17:39. > :17:46.the poor people. We don't have the support, it makes us sad and
:17:46. > :17:49.ashamed. What's hard to deal with here, is that just down the road
:17:49. > :17:54.from the hospital there is food. But prices have gone through the
:17:54. > :18:00.roof and still rising. The poor, simply can't afford it. Imagine,
:18:00. > :18:08.having to walk past all of this, while your child is at home,
:18:08. > :18:18.desperately hungry. Ask anyone here, old or young, what's driving the
:18:18. > :18:24.hung hunger, and they'll hell you it is poverty. For some this is a
:18:24. > :18:28.solution of sorts. Oxfam has a programme of cash
:18:28. > :18:32.handouts. The heat may be off the scale, you may have to wait in line
:18:32. > :18:36.for hours, but really, there's not much else to do for farm workers
:18:36. > :18:40.when crops have failed. If you don't get this money, is there any
:18:41. > :18:45.other way of getting income, have you any other way of getting money?
:18:45. > :18:54.TRANSLATION: No. If there's rain we can work, otherwise, there's no
:18:54. > :18:58.work. For so many, this is the last, the only option. And the rains
:18:58. > :19:03.haven't come. April's harvest was a disaster, and
:19:03. > :19:08.that was a severe limit on Yemen's capacity for self-help. It is true,
:19:08. > :19:18.that not all of the productive land in this impoverished country is
:19:18. > :19:28.used to produce food. Instead, they choose to grow this stuff, Kat, a
:19:28. > :19:28.
:19:28. > :19:38.narcotic leaf that is chewed daily by every adult in Yemen. Is it good,
:19:38. > :19:48.
:19:48. > :19:55.do you chew it? The whole thing. It is an acquireed taste. Along
:19:55. > :20:01.with Islam, it is at the centre of the culture, millions of bags of it
:20:01. > :20:09.are solid every day Akmed is a huge Khat fan, and says he spends more
:20:09. > :20:14.money on it than food. What does your wife says? She chews too, he
:20:14. > :20:21.tells me. They say it is a way of life, would be an understatement.
:20:21. > :20:26.Amid the hunger and desperation, everyone here is still chewing Some
:20:26. > :20:32.things here then, remain constant. But these are also times of
:20:33. > :20:35.upheaval, turmoil and change. The Yemeni Arab Spring shifted the
:20:35. > :20:40.political landscape and delivered the first new President in more
:20:40. > :20:46.than three decades. It was hardly a revolution and hardly a happy
:20:46. > :20:56.ending. Hunger levels have doubleed but the new Government is more
:20:56. > :21:01.
:21:01. > :21:07.The battle is on. These troops training to take on the Islamist
:21:07. > :21:17.mill tapts, many who are foreign fighters, arriving in Yemen, after
:21:17. > :21:19.
:21:19. > :21:22.driven out of former strongholds. The new recruits are part of the
:21:22. > :21:30.military bolstered by American funding and training.
:21:30. > :21:33.But the money spent on this, must surely mean there's less to tackle
:21:33. > :21:39.chronic malnutrition Military commanders, insist, there's no
:21:39. > :21:42.choice. TRANSLATION: We have to focus all
:21:42. > :21:46.our efficiencies on safety and security in Yemen, because that
:21:46. > :21:52.will solve the economic problems. If we don't secure the country,
:21:52. > :22:02.nothing will improve and the suffering and starvation will get
:22:02. > :22:03.
:22:03. > :22:08.worse. Security first. Which leaves the hungry, still hungry. And with
:22:08. > :22:14.hardly any good news on the horizon. The next harvest is months away,
:22:14. > :22:21.the international aid agencies, struggling to raise funds. And in
:22:21. > :22:26.the middle of it all, this baby, for him help can't arrive soon
:22:26. > :22:33.enough. TRANSLATION: If he lives he lives,
:22:33. > :22:39.if he dies, what can I do, I've tried my best, I've done he was I
:22:39. > :22:43.can for his health. I can't afford to do more, now it is in the hands
:22:43. > :22:48.of the Gods. The Conservative Government unveiled the list of
:22:48. > :22:53.candidates for the new role of police commissioners. Labour
:22:53. > :23:01.candidates have been put into the same jobs. All of England and Wales
:23:01. > :23:06.will get the chance to vote are to The Commissioner, some critics fear
:23:06. > :23:16.politiciseed figures, whose arrival won't do any to help crime. First
:23:16. > :23:18.
:23:18. > :23:22.our political editor reports from The blue line is struggling not to
:23:22. > :23:26.get thinner, squeezed by budget cuts and soon to be tuged by a new
:23:26. > :23:31.musclar hand. In the Autumn there will be big election toss a new
:23:31. > :23:35.position - chief puller of the thin blue line. But, sheriffs are not
:23:35. > :23:40.the talk of Nottingham town. There are electionness November, you know
:23:40. > :23:46.about them? Yes. What are they for? I don't know. It doesn't really, it
:23:46. > :23:52.is not really something I think about to be fair. It is for a new
:23:52. > :23:57.police chaefs? I didn't know about that. You not heard of elections in
:23:57. > :24:01.November? Not really. It is not the talk of Nottingham town, and the
:24:01. > :24:05.man currently its most senior police officer knows it.
:24:05. > :24:11.We walked along that street now, do you think Butching into any
:24:11. > :24:15.stranger if they knew about the elections, would they knew? Current
:24:15. > :24:18.awareness of the police and crime police officer process isn't what
:24:18. > :24:23.it might be, that is considered and looked at within Government and
:24:23. > :24:25.decisions how to deal with that. I'm sure they will do so. This man
:24:25. > :24:29.is Chief Constable of Nottinghamshire, he is accountable
:24:29. > :24:33.to the Police Authority but after the election, that accountability
:24:33. > :24:37.becomes to another individual, perhaps with little or no policing
:24:37. > :24:42.experience, but whose diverting manifesto won them election, and so
:24:42. > :24:46.the area of policing budget. For the Chief Constable, a group of
:24:46. > :24:52.bosses has become one. Police and crime commissioners, write the plan,
:24:52. > :24:55.chief constables figure out how to implement it. The people who go for
:24:55. > :24:59.the pail, saying having one individual makes the difference?
:24:59. > :25:03.will see that when it comes in. I understand the argument, I've seen
:25:03. > :25:06.the arguments on both sides, I appreciate the strength of
:25:06. > :25:10.arguments present by all-party, prospectus that comes around it,
:25:10. > :25:14.from my prospective, the debate has stopped, the Government has spoken,
:25:14. > :25:23.we have an election process, my job is make sure it works. Whoever she
:25:23. > :25:30.and he is, I will work with. There is no model to look for, it is the
:25:30. > :25:32.same as and so it will work as well. Today, Theresa May launched the
:25:32. > :25:38.Conservatives' candidates. Police authorities are invisible to the
:25:38. > :25:42.public. Most people don't even know they exist, let alone who does the
:25:42. > :25:46.job. Instead, police and crime commissioners, will be highly
:25:46. > :25:50.visible, chosen directly by the people, and accountable to the
:25:50. > :25:53.people The success of the people elected police and crime
:25:53. > :25:57.commissioners will also reflect on the Prime Minister. Was he able to
:25:57. > :26:00.attract the calibre of person to a role that is close to his heart?
:26:00. > :26:05.Many of the ideas championed within Government, don't think right now,
:26:05. > :26:09.the Prime Minister, has put his full heft behind it. So, in
:26:09. > :26:13.November, and close to bomb fire night, what is supposed to be a Big
:26:13. > :26:19.Bang of accountability, might end up being like a firework left out
:26:19. > :26:23.in the summer downpours. Which is why the premium is on
:26:23. > :26:27.quality, and funds are asked for to raise the profile. They have until
:26:28. > :26:32.October to up the quality, so people, think the turnout. We'll
:26:32. > :26:35.see a variety of policing varieties, set up and down the country, by
:26:35. > :26:40.locally elected police and crime commissioners. In one part of the
:26:40. > :26:45.country, gang crime may be the main problem. Elsewhere, it may be
:26:45. > :26:52.burglary, or antisocial behaviour or rural crime or street robberies
:26:52. > :26:56.or drug related crime or drink related crime. Police and crime
:26:56. > :27:01.commissioners, we can have the full set. A few years ago, in this area
:27:01. > :27:06.here, there was a drive-by shooting, and there was a murder. And that is
:27:06. > :27:10.the sort of experience that people over here, have to deal with, quite
:27:10. > :27:14.oven. Don't you think anyone who runs to be a PCC knows they need to
:27:14. > :27:18.deal with murder, why do they need to live with murder on their
:27:18. > :27:22.doorstep to get it? In order to find solutions, one has to get
:27:22. > :27:25.close to the communities, to find out how best they can deal with it.
:27:25. > :27:30.If you're living somewhere in the outer sticks in a rural area, you
:27:30. > :27:36.got no experience of places like inner-city Nottingham, where we
:27:36. > :27:43.have, drugs, gang crime, we have murders, we have gun-related crime.
:27:43. > :27:48.My argument is what have you got, or bringing to the table?
:27:48. > :27:53.police hope they reached the end of the year, still faithful to their
:27:53. > :27:58.founder, Sir Robert's peel, that officers should not panneder to
:27:58. > :28:02.public opinion. Peel had a hand in creating, the officers, are under
:28:02. > :28:09.pressure to make sure crime commissioners are not elected on a
:28:09. > :28:17.low turnout. It hangs by a thin lead. The former Deputy Prime
:28:17. > :28:20.Minister, Lord Prescott is here, and Ian Johnston is standing an an
:28:20. > :28:23.independent, and Sir Hugh Orde is President of the Association of
:28:23. > :28:28.Chief Police Officers. You thought the reforms were a bad idea
:28:28. > :28:31.originally, why are you standing Yes I think they were a bad idea,
:28:31. > :28:35.because I'm afraid police and politics don't mix in my view.
:28:35. > :28:39.However, having said that, the Government of the day, has spoken.
:28:40. > :28:43.We are going to have police and crime commissioners, and
:28:43. > :28:46.independent candidates with the right background, can ensure that
:28:46. > :28:50.politics doesn't, spoil a way we police in this country. Is it more
:28:50. > :28:54.difficult for you, because you don't have party political backing,
:28:54. > :29:00.no apparatus to get on with this? There are two ways of looking at it,
:29:00. > :29:04.in terms of funding and organising it, it is incredibly difficult as
:29:04. > :29:08.an independent. The public have spoken in recent polls, and quite
:29:08. > :29:14.frankly, they've said they're fed up with politicians, 7% think the
:29:14. > :29:18.politicians would make a good police and crime commissioner, 6%:.
:29:18. > :29:21.They shouldn't be disqualified. They're excellent politicians.
:29:21. > :29:26.you Seymour yirt in the argument that politics and police shouldn't
:29:26. > :29:32.mix, it is difficult for good independence, a couple of people.
:29:32. > :29:37.We voted against this, because we sooner kept the police rather the
:29:37. > :29:41.expense of an election, in October, very few people know about it, and
:29:41. > :29:45.very few people will vote. There are to be that vote and we will
:29:45. > :29:48.take part. Whether it is a politician or policeman, in all the
:29:48. > :29:52.candidates in both party, they have a combination, some politicianss
:29:52. > :29:56.some ex-police people, they play that part. But, you know, there are
:29:56. > :30:00.two separate functions here, the Chief Constable's job is to get on
:30:00. > :30:04.with the job and implement the policy. What this policy is saying,
:30:04. > :30:07.the community should decide the priorities of those policies, that
:30:07. > :30:13.means you need a community voice. That's what the commissioners are
:30:13. > :30:17.about, how do you develop that view? Is a politician a good
:30:17. > :30:21.community voice, or better to have somebody who has experience of the
:30:21. > :30:25.police force? And keep the political parties out of it A Chief
:30:25. > :30:29.Constable said to me, we don't like politicians, Robert peel was a
:30:29. > :30:33.politician three times a Prime Minister, so, basically, the
:30:33. > :30:36.politician, we brought in the policy of community policing, it
:30:36. > :30:42.wasn't policing, it wasn't liked by the police, they told us they
:30:42. > :30:48.didn't like it. It is a xinks, policy was policies by discussion,
:30:48. > :30:52.imp theed by the police, you do separate them, let the politicians
:30:52. > :30:58.and people who become commissioners, Voice of the community. Do you
:30:58. > :31:02.think most police officers care one way or the other, presumably you
:31:02. > :31:07.work with civil control you work with, but I'm sure they weren't
:31:07. > :31:11.beating on the door a for the change? It is entirely right and
:31:11. > :31:17.proper, how they're held to account. Service has to have clarity how
:31:17. > :31:23.this will work. These gentlemen have been talking about local
:31:23. > :31:28.policing, chief police officers are responsible for right up to things
:31:28. > :31:32.like Olympics, riots last year, cyber crime, drug dealing, it is
:31:32. > :31:36.better dealt nationallyly by linked with the local service. It is the
:31:36. > :31:40.continueium that is critical. do you worry about, there's a lack
:31:40. > :31:45.of clarity, you're not sure, exactly how it works, you're trying
:31:45. > :31:48.to make it work but not sure? secured a clear, unequivocal
:31:48. > :31:52.agreement, that operationally independent chiefs will deliver the
:31:52. > :31:57.service, held to account by police and crime commissioners. So it is a
:31:57. > :32:01.clear distinction there. But difficulty becomes, stark, when for
:32:01. > :32:05.example we have to mobilise across the country. If every police and
:32:05. > :32:09.crime commissioner, does not sign up to the national agreement is, we
:32:09. > :32:13.have severe difficulty in times of severe crisis. I can imagine
:32:13. > :32:16.somebody in Gwent responding to the local community, saying, actually
:32:16. > :32:19.what we're interested in is burglary or whatever the particular
:32:19. > :32:23.thing is there, and the national priority which is different, no, we
:32:23. > :32:27.need your officers to do something else, there could be an obvious
:32:27. > :32:31.tension there, if you were the face of the police in Gwent? That
:32:31. > :32:37.tension is there, and we've experienced it, in the last week,
:32:37. > :32:43.when we needed more officers, to replace the G4 staff, who decided
:32:43. > :32:48.not to turn up for whatever reason. And Chief Constable said, we
:32:48. > :32:54.recognise the national need as well as the local need. If you were
:32:54. > :32:59.elected you may be responsive to what local people say, in a day
:33:00. > :33:05.wairch way to a Chief Constable? That's why the newly elected, PCCs
:33:05. > :33:08.may need to know what the national call is as well. My fear is, and
:33:08. > :33:14.there's disript to Lord Prescott, there's a danger, for the last two
:33:14. > :33:18.years, for any term of office, some PCCs will be concerned with re-
:33:18. > :33:22.elected instead of getting on with it. That's community. That person
:33:22. > :33:26.on The Commissioner, we didn't agree with the policy, we want to
:33:26. > :33:34.convince the community he's acting in their interest. Let's be hear,
:33:34. > :33:39.the implementation of the policy, whether it is for the Olympics, or
:33:39. > :33:45.the collapsing, G4 is, we're not challenging, that, although we
:33:45. > :33:48.worry the new crime agency, brought in, the abolition of the
:33:48. > :33:50.appropriate coprincipal seems the Government is strengthening its own
:33:50. > :33:54.position and not takeing into account the community so. There
:33:55. > :34:00.will be a bit of tension, bound to be when you have it, but we'll have
:34:00. > :34:04.to see how it works. I believe a good policeman who, could work as
:34:04. > :34:08.commissioner, or policeman, as it may be their responsibility. The
:34:08. > :34:14.two can be distinct. The liebs have to be clear, but let's be clear, it
:34:14. > :34:20.is not too clear in the past, in some things the role of the Chief
:34:20. > :34:24.Constable. Would you like a local face, that is responsible, you
:34:24. > :34:27.could go to for strategic guidance, as you sort out what the
:34:27. > :34:32.operational priorities, and say we need more people or whatever it is,
:34:32. > :34:39.your priorities happen to be? strength of police service is it is
:34:39. > :34:43.rooted in community, and every police officer is signed up to
:34:43. > :34:47.local commuting. They speak to the police authorities and many play
:34:47. > :34:51.add critical role, calming down the communities because they knew them.
:34:51. > :34:56.They will have to build a new relationship with a individual.
:34:56. > :34:59.police officers, he is the power, he has the arrest powers, those who
:34:59. > :35:03.are the community police, were opposed by the police and community,
:35:03. > :35:07.but now work with it, because it is shown, it is improved the
:35:07. > :35:15.relationship between the police and the community. And we're all
:35:15. > :35:22.working that together. That goes back to 1829, established by Robert
:35:22. > :35:25.Peel. The healthy tension will be around how you deploy the shrinking
:35:25. > :35:29.resource we have, that's why we have to collaborate and work
:35:29. > :35:37.closely together and transform policing so we can maintain front
:35:37. > :35:40.line service. Taken over by G4 is. Do you think
:35:40. > :35:45.people, clearly we care about law and order, but do you think people
:35:45. > :35:48.will turn out to vote? It is difficult. We're looking at 15%, 0%
:35:48. > :35:54.tops, and we need greater help from the Government and greater help
:35:54. > :35:57.from the media to get people out. Democracy, it chooses in November,
:35:57. > :36:01.which everyone says is the worst time to have an election, it is not
:36:01. > :36:05.providing the information about the candidates which every candidate in
:36:05. > :36:10.other elections normally get. They're makeing it difficult. Any
:36:10. > :36:14.independence got to find �5,000 for the deposit, so have we, we're not
:36:14. > :36:18.getting money from the party, we have to find it out, we have the
:36:18. > :36:21.same difficulties as you as taking part. On that moment, we'll leave
:36:21. > :36:28.it there. Now, here's a list of banned words,
:36:28. > :36:35.none of which happens to be the F word, Olympics, Olympian, Games,
:36:35. > :36:41.2012, 201. Using the law, using thoo words in advertise something
:36:41. > :36:44.forbidden without the permission of organisers, LOCOG. It is hardly
:36:44. > :36:49.surprising what people want to cash in what will be the biggest
:36:49. > :36:59.opportunity in the summer. We have been investigating whether that
:36:59. > :37:04.
:37:04. > :37:10.Nobody messes with the Olympic brands.
:37:10. > :37:16.We're getting in on the act too. Hold it Grahams, just one second,
:37:16. > :37:26.that's beautiful, but do you mind popping this on for us. It is
:37:26. > :37:28.
:37:28. > :37:33.That's a nice look for you. If Big Grey here were to lose
:37:33. > :37:38.concentration for a moment, the rings he's juggleling could
:37:38. > :37:45.inadvertently fall into a well known configuration, and Seb Coe
:37:45. > :37:51.could be shutting down this report before you know it. Look what
:37:51. > :37:59.happened is, a party North website, run by the Duchess Cambridge's
:37:59. > :38:02.family, came under fire. Were the Middletons coming in under fire for
:38:02. > :38:11.the Olympics. You build your business up, through nothing from
:38:11. > :38:17.the sweat of your brow, and then the Olympics come along, now any
:38:17. > :38:22.half decent entrepreneur might think, this is a time to offer
:38:22. > :38:27.people tomorrow at that time, amean quality products s that a crime.
:38:28. > :38:31.would be concerned about it. The one thing that Trading Standards
:38:31. > :38:37.and LOCOG are most interested in are references toss the rings. And
:38:37. > :38:42.I think, I've only seen a couple of snaps, but the snaps I've seen
:38:42. > :38:48.references the ring, not the specific five-ring device, but
:38:48. > :38:55.certainly eludes to that. How are we fixed ourselves, if we entertain
:38:55. > :39:00.the viewers with a juggle letter? You may be OK, because it is not
:39:00. > :39:04.for commercial gain. The Middleton example, are using references toss
:39:04. > :39:10.the rings, possibly, to create further sales. Your juggle letter
:39:10. > :39:15.is here to entertain, so there wouldn't be a commercial connection.
:39:15. > :39:19.LOCOG said they have no issue with the Middletons products, no
:39:19. > :39:23.infringement has taken place, says a spokeswoman. But we may have to
:39:23. > :39:27.ask them to make a tweak to the copy. The Culture Secretary was
:39:27. > :39:32.relaxed. He claimed to notice only modest branding where the Games
:39:32. > :39:36.were concerned. The Olympics, does more than pretty much any other
:39:37. > :39:40.international sports event to reduce branding. It is the only
:39:40. > :39:45.event which doesn't allow commercial branding inside sports
:39:45. > :39:52.venues, and sponsors, who have been a bit maligned recently, are
:39:52. > :40:02.playing for half the cost of hosting the Games in London. Games,
:40:02. > :40:08.2012: Apparently inknock with us words, read for us by Radio 4's
:40:08. > :40:17.Corrie could fall foul for combinations for so-called ambush
:40:17. > :40:24.marketing. # You can't touch this #
:40:24. > :40:34.So here's how the classic account are f of the ancient Olympic Games,
:40:34. > :40:49.
:40:49. > :40:54.would sound today as reacted under Newsnight the programme that
:40:54. > :41:01.censureed. We asked as we do on a daily basis if LOCOG in charge of
:41:01. > :41:06.running the Olympics want to come and speak to us about running the
:41:06. > :41:13.Olympics, but like Usain Bolt they keep running away. Here we have
:41:13. > :41:19.Clegg Clegg, and Kate Robertson chair of the international
:41:19. > :41:23.advertising firm, Euro RSCG. What do you think is the problem here?
:41:23. > :41:26.do understand that brands have to be protected, that the rings, and
:41:26. > :41:30.the Olympics assets have to be looked after. That the money of the
:41:30. > :41:34.sponsors is huge. What I think is a problem, that is there's an
:41:34. > :41:39.unimaginative approach to this. The rules are old, you know they are.
:41:39. > :41:43.They are very, very rigid. Consumers are not idiots, in the
:41:43. > :41:51.social media world, there are lots of things that could be done
:41:51. > :41:55.differently. There are 101 ideas. The thing that's wrong is
:41:55. > :41:59.understanding enthusiastic stic policing bit. Sometimes and a lot
:41:59. > :42:05.of the stuff around the Olympics for the sponsor brands and Olympics
:42:05. > :42:09.brand are actually harming both. And then I think that's imaginative
:42:09. > :42:14.and stupid. Do you take the point that some of this seems to be silly
:42:14. > :42:20.and makes a little bit of the leadup of the Games silly. Perhaps
:42:20. > :42:25.we forget after they start but it seems odd, McDonald chip police
:42:25. > :42:29.come out and say you can't call it chips, that's the coverage you're
:42:29. > :42:37.getting? It is all to do with the spwrerms of the law. They want a
:42:37. > :42:44.degree of grainous in the law, - greyness in the law, you get black
:42:44. > :42:48.and white. There have been some in the country who have over zealous,
:42:48. > :42:54.there would be no Olympic Games without the sponsors. As part of
:42:54. > :42:58.the bidding progress, we needed legally binding, unlimited
:42:58. > :43:02.guarantee for the staging of the Games, so the British taxpayer
:43:02. > :43:05.would fund any shortfall, if LOCOG is unable to deliver the
:43:05. > :43:09.substantial money they need to raise. People will understand that.
:43:09. > :43:14.But they need to understand a corner shop, with rings in the
:43:14. > :43:17.window, celebrating this national event is not going to bring down
:43:17. > :43:21.Coca-Cola? That's fair, it is when people are trying to make profit,
:43:21. > :43:26.commercial gain out of the Games when they have not invested money
:43:26. > :43:31.into supporting the Games in the first instance. LOCOG want to
:43:31. > :43:34.celebrate the Olympic Games but it's got absolutely rightly and
:43:34. > :43:39.properly to protect the commercial interest fundsing the Games.
:43:39. > :43:43.seem to be imemploying they're not doing that, it could back fire?
:43:43. > :43:50.is clearly back firing, I tell you what is wrong in the corner shop
:43:50. > :43:55.example, is it is tough for the Games and big sponsors who put in
:43:55. > :44:02.millions to think, OK, now these precious Olympic assets could be
:44:02. > :44:10.used by God only knows who. So, at some point I would see LOCOG seems
:44:10. > :44:16.to be IOC first, you know why, why can't a corner shop, who wants to
:44:16. > :44:21.say, yea, London welcomes the Games, have the stuff, and if you want to,
:44:21. > :44:25.say underNeath, thank you to all the Olympic part nerts, and they
:44:25. > :44:30.allowed this. It is a pain in the neck, because you have to vet those.
:44:30. > :44:37.But it back fires, and gets worse, when you get into the Olympics
:44:37. > :44:41.assets and the big sponsors. So the visa exclues sift lock down is
:44:41. > :44:51.insane for the visa brand. It is bad for visa. Everybody hates them.
:44:51. > :44:52.
:44:52. > :44:56.Because you get there, and you go oh. We've seen commercial creep,
:44:56. > :45:01.over various owe limb pee yads, four year periods, commercial creep
:45:01. > :45:05.to ensure there is clear blue waert between the individuals sponsors.
:45:05. > :45:11.And those rights need to be protected, not only for the future
:45:11. > :45:15.of the Games, but because of the staging of the Games in London for
:45:15. > :45:25.the British taxpayer. There's the British sense of humour, saying you
:45:25. > :45:28.
:45:28. > :45:33.can't buy British beer, you have to buy behind Ken beer. - behind kin
:45:33. > :45:38.beer. If you paid �40-50 million on the rights, you want a return on
:45:38. > :45:41.the rights. This is the way it works. It is not a return on the
:45:41. > :45:47.investment, and you know Y because that's such an expensive
:45:47. > :45:52.sponsorship and lots of money, it is not about the behind kin or
:45:52. > :45:55.Coca-Cola or McDonald's or visa useage in the park during the two
:45:55. > :46:03.weeks. It is about the global impact on the brand and on the
:46:03. > :46:10.brand is not good. So, those contracts need to be looked at,
:46:10. > :46:14.each one and Madgeive solutions come up with. McDonald's should
:46:14. > :46:18.support local food traders. There's room for more imagination? There is
:46:18. > :46:22.that scope. But I recognise that people want to play in the grey
:46:22. > :46:27.area, because you get in there, people will abuse it. So it has to
:46:27. > :46:32.be black and white. That's all from us, we want us to leave news from
:46:32. > :46:38.north corea, where you might thought being supreme leader was
:46:38. > :46:42.big enough. But now another accolade has been declared on Kim
:46:42. > :46:52.Jong Un, naturally thousands of troops expressed their genuine
:46:52. > :46:55.
:46:55. > :47:03.delight. Here they are accompanied by the track, Excellent Horse-Like
:47:03. > :47:13.Lady Hyoth Song-wol wol, who is supposedly his girl frepd. Good
:47:13. > :47:32.
:47:32. > :47:36.Still showers to come on Friday, stl start the day dry and bright.
:47:36. > :47:40.But central and southern parts of England, this is where showers get
:47:40. > :47:44.going. Brighter conditions across the north. Things should improve
:47:44. > :47:50.for the golfers after a wet start. But threat of storms, in and around
:47:50. > :47:55.the Oval area, but those afternoon storms across the Midlands, central,
:47:55. > :48:00.southern and South Eastern England that could cause problems. Light
:48:00. > :48:05.showers here, many will stay dry and sunny throughout. Mid-to high
:48:05. > :48:09.teens across southern and western Wales, but should stay dry.
:48:09. > :48:13.Isolated light showers, eastern and Northern Ireland. Chilly start in
:48:13. > :48:17.Scotland, but fewer showers to come, with Friday, compared to Thursday,
:48:17. > :48:21.and most will see spells of sunshine. Difference between Friday
:48:21. > :48:25.and sat, well there's going to be two-fold. Slight increase in
:48:25. > :48:31.temperature and brightening of the skies. We will see sunshine develop,