:00:17. > :00:24.One week in, we have the measure of the games.
:00:24. > :00:29.Look at the time, it's a new world record. Huge viewing figures, a
:00:29. > :00:34.feel-good factor, and a Boris bounce. Gold medal. If any other
:00:34. > :00:37.politician anywhere in the world got stuck on a zip wire, it was
:00:38. > :00:42.disastrous, for Boris it will be an absolute triumph. Will any of it
:00:42. > :00:47.last, or will it fade from memory, like the 1948 games. I said, how
:00:47. > :00:51.did you train? He said, train, I just stubbed out my cigarette and
:00:51. > :00:55.ran! We will discuss that with three
:00:55. > :01:05.British olympian, and this man, who went to the Olympic Park this week
:01:05. > :01:07.
:01:07. > :01:10.and had a sausage McMuffin. This time last week, while you and I
:01:10. > :01:13.were watching Newsnight, literally everybody else was watching the
:01:13. > :01:17.Olympic Opening Ceremony. We have learned an important lesson from,
:01:17. > :01:22.that and tonight's programme is devoted to the games. What their
:01:22. > :01:28.success says about Britain, whether it's laughable to think of them as
:01:28. > :01:32.austerity games, and first, whether London 2012 will be a springboard
:01:32. > :01:37.for Boris 20125 he didn't secure the Olympics for London, and yet
:01:37. > :01:40.the public closely associates him with the event. He has instant name
:01:40. > :01:45.recognition which is way better than whoever the hell I am. And the
:01:45. > :01:53.polls say if he became Tory leader his party would be neck and neck
:01:53. > :01:58.with Labour. Forget Boris for London, why not Boris for Britain.
:01:58. > :02:02.August, and that most august tradition of journalism, the silly
:02:02. > :02:09.season. And this year, the silly contender. Boris Johnson for Prime
:02:09. > :02:13.Minister, very funny, but everywhere Londoners look up, they
:02:13. > :02:19.see, not David Cameron, but another man on the wire.
:02:19. > :02:24.This man made it across his wire, and despite those dangling legs,
:02:24. > :02:27.this one might do too, it is not very silly at all. People are
:02:27. > :02:31.coming from around the world, and they are seeing us and the greatest
:02:31. > :02:41.city on earth. To a politician 60,000 people chanting your name is
:02:41. > :02:41.
:02:41. > :02:47.far from silly. The geiger counter of Olympomaina will go zoink.
:02:47. > :02:51.then the zoink has gone zonk off the scale. So much so David Cameron
:02:51. > :02:56.just took his hat off to his London mayor. If any other politician,
:02:56. > :03:05.anywhere in the world, got stuck on a zip wire, it would be disastrous,
:03:05. > :03:11.for Boris, it will be an absolute triumph. Even Johnson's biographer
:03:11. > :03:14.has been taken aback. I have been rung by Americans, Swiss, the
:03:14. > :03:19.Swedes want to know about him, everyone wants to know who this
:03:19. > :03:23.astonishing figure is. He has used with amazing acumen to show that he
:03:23. > :03:28.is a leader of a world city, and he can perform on the world stage.
:03:29. > :03:32.This is, of course, raising him as a much more serious figure, or much
:03:33. > :03:38.more serious contender to David Cameron, because he is the one,
:03:38. > :03:41.well known story, who is not actually found -- Tory, who is not
:03:41. > :03:47.actually bound into the not very popular decisions taken at
:03:47. > :03:51.Westminster. The numbers bear this out, a nearby
:03:51. > :03:59.I don't knowic Olympic bounce A Tory Party led by David Cameron --
:03:59. > :04:05.bionic bounce, a Tory Party led by David Cameron, as usual in mid-term,
:04:05. > :04:09.with Boris Johnson as leader, the gap narrows. The road is not
:04:09. > :04:14.straight ahead. D'oh to see Boris going to be leader of the party,
:04:14. > :04:18.you have to do as many Olympics as Boris does in a sentence. Does he
:04:18. > :04:22.want it? No question about. That consider this, there is no vacancy
:04:22. > :04:26.for the top role, David Cameron is not universally adored by MPs, but
:04:26. > :04:31.he's not going anywhere. What if the Tories lose the next election,
:04:31. > :04:35.when Boris would have to bail early from being Mayor of London. That is
:04:35. > :04:39.something he has promised Londoners he wouldn't do. He could style it
:04:39. > :04:45.out. Many think his next chance is before the next election, that they
:04:45. > :04:49.choose him in a pre-election panic. The country is enjoying the games,
:04:49. > :04:53.but has the mayor ensured it is also making money? Boris Johnson
:04:53. > :04:58.warned of gridlock, some shop floors have grown tumbleweed, he
:04:58. > :05:03.gets the jokes of competition, but is he competent. One thing about
:05:03. > :05:07.Boris is he's a real detalisman, he really studies his brief. He loves
:05:07. > :05:11.chairing meetings and chairs a lot of really detailed negotiating
:05:11. > :05:16.meetings and so on. He's also unbelievably hard working, contrary
:05:16. > :05:20.to what a lot of people expect. He starts early and leaves late and
:05:21. > :05:25.works weekends. His staff are concerned he works too hard. Can he
:05:26. > :05:29.be Prime Minister? There isn't a vacancy, but he has defied
:05:29. > :05:35.expectations before in terms of possibilities, and no reason why
:05:35. > :05:40.that shouldn't carry on. The Mayor of London office has relatively few
:05:40. > :05:47.powers, has hard for him to do things, -- it is hard for him to do
:05:47. > :05:50.things that will capitalise on the Olympic bounce. But one thing he
:05:50. > :05:54.could do would be to push through the driverless train, but it could
:05:54. > :05:59.be a ruckus. A ruckus in London, what about elsewhere, we know he's
:05:59. > :06:03.not that popular in Liverpool, he city he offended so much he was
:06:03. > :06:06.sent to apologise in person. Those figures on the right of the screen
:06:06. > :06:09.show Boris Johnson is more popular as a leader in almost every part of
:06:09. > :06:13.the country. But when asked who would make the better Prime
:06:13. > :06:21.Minister, that changes. David Cameron polls ahead, and in some
:06:21. > :06:25.places by quite a way. Never say never with Boris Johnson,
:06:25. > :06:28.but even his closest associates admit he doesn't yet know how to
:06:28. > :06:35.get where he wants to get. The wire is ready, and he can walk on it,
:06:35. > :06:43.but it is not yet hooked up to Westminster.
:06:43. > :06:46.You said the zoike has gone zonk? It is easy when there is not much
:06:46. > :06:49.going on in Westminster. Is Boris making headway because there is not
:06:49. > :06:52.much going on? There are things going on, there is a big thing
:06:52. > :06:57.going on today with Lords reform. Before we go on to that. It is
:06:57. > :07:02.fairly serious, it is summer, it is quiet, but equally, and this is his
:07:02. > :07:05.home turf. But he has been astute in how he is playing these messages,
:07:05. > :07:09.he's doing well. He's hogging the limelight, and other politicians
:07:09. > :07:14.are letting him. They have, however, made a fairly, they haven't
:07:15. > :07:18.officially announced it, the signs are that Lords reform has died in
:07:18. > :07:21.its massive 100-year history, and will have to spend a few more years
:07:21. > :07:26.waiting to get on to the statute books, today it seems clear they
:07:26. > :07:30.won't go ahead with, that after incredibly bullish signs from both
:07:30. > :07:34.naerts they will have to try to come up with a compromise. It is a
:07:34. > :07:38.big development on what is supposed to be the silly season. The BBC is
:07:38. > :07:42.covering every Olympic sport, from every angle, all the time. If you
:07:42. > :07:52.are a bit busy, the Newsnight guide to the day, will help you keep your
:07:52. > :08:04.
:08:05. > :08:09.Ever since the hugely successful Opening Ceremony, and all that
:08:09. > :08:13.Olympic standard waving, 30 Mary Poppinses have been working day and
:08:13. > :08:23.night to transform the stadium into a venue where athletes can run,
:08:23. > :08:23.
:08:23. > :08:30.jump and throw. Britain's big gold medal hope in
:08:30. > :08:33.the heptathlon, Jessica Ennis, roared out of her first event, the
:08:33. > :08:38.100m hurdles, at this speed she would have won gold in Beijing
:08:38. > :08:42.against the world's specialist. Katherine Grainger and Anna Watson
:08:42. > :08:48.have three sets of silver medals from Athens, Sydney and Beijing,
:08:49. > :08:54.but something happened to them today, oh, what's the word? Was it
:08:54. > :08:59.fulfilment, like some thunder boat had hit you, and -- thunder bolt
:08:59. > :09:02.had hit you. What is the word? word is "finally"!
:09:02. > :09:08.A clear victory for Britain, then, while in the sailing, well this
:09:08. > :09:15.drama in the fin class speaks for itself. In the velodrome, an
:09:15. > :09:25.explanation of why Gavin isn't here tonight. And more success for
:09:25. > :09:26.
:09:26. > :09:31.Britain's men and women. Well Greg Searle is here, he won bronze this
:09:31. > :09:35.week in the men's eight rowing, a full 20 years after his first
:09:35. > :09:39.Olympic appearance in Barcelona, where he won a gold medal. I know
:09:39. > :09:47.you have come from the Olympic Park, how are the games for you?
:09:47. > :09:50.games are unfolding beautifully. There was a slightly low -- slow
:09:50. > :09:53.start, we were nervous about the home team. Now the medals are
:09:53. > :09:56.coming in. People seem to have smiles on their faces across town
:09:56. > :10:00.and across the country, around the Olympic Park. Hopefully people are
:10:00. > :10:03.beginning to get into the games and start to feel proud of the British
:10:03. > :10:07.team. As a participant, do you really notice the different cities
:10:07. > :10:11.and what they bring, or when you are in the middle of it you could
:10:11. > :10:14.be anywhere? It is very different for me, each of the different
:10:14. > :10:18.experiences. In Barcelona in 1992 everyone loved it, every street you
:10:18. > :10:22.walked down, there were flags and people excited about the games.
:10:22. > :10:25.When I went to the Atlanta Olympics, it was very different, a very dry
:10:25. > :10:30.experience, they were probably as interested in the baseball as the
:10:30. > :10:35.games. That cast a shadow over it. In terms of the enthusiasm from the
:10:35. > :10:39.home crowd. What about this British rowing success? The British rowing
:10:39. > :10:47.success has been marvellous. We're strong sport in this country, we
:10:47. > :10:51.have heritage and history that we are good at row, we have had Steve
:10:52. > :10:57.Redgrave as aman, from years gone by, we have pick -- tailsman from
:10:57. > :10:59.years gone by, we have picked it up and carried on. Colin Moynihan from
:10:59. > :11:04.the Birtish Olympic Association, essentially saying, he didn't use
:11:04. > :11:09.the terms, but saying a lot of sports are sports for posh boys and
:11:09. > :11:12.girls, certainly where we win medals? That is where we need to
:11:12. > :11:16.drive diversity, more people into sport. Rowing, as an example, you
:11:16. > :11:19.said why are we good at it. We were good at it, because we used to have
:11:19. > :11:25.posh boys and a few people were able to do sport. Now we have
:11:25. > :11:28.talent identification programme, we have cast the net wider, so more
:11:28. > :11:32.than Haher the rowers went to state schools not private schools,
:11:32. > :11:37.because they have had opportunity to do the sport,, it has had
:11:37. > :11:41.exposure. More fun doing it and more success from it T women's
:11:41. > :11:46.rowing has had huge success and two gold medals from British women
:11:46. > :11:49.rowers, that is the first time we have won gold in British women's
:11:49. > :11:55.rowing. There is talk about legacy, sustainability, and whether they
:11:55. > :11:58.are different. Do you think simply seeing British women and men win at
:11:58. > :12:01.rowing, will be enough to entice people to take up the sport for the
:12:01. > :12:05.first time? I think you look at the Steve Redgrave story that I have
:12:05. > :12:08.told, in the past people weren't rowing, then we had success in
:12:08. > :12:13.Sydney, that was a big one, where Steve won the five golds. Now you
:12:13. > :12:17.look at the result of that, 12 years on, we're a hugely successful
:12:17. > :12:20.team. Cycling, exactly the same thing is happening. Sailing,
:12:21. > :12:24.exactly the same thing is happening. These are not the mainstream sports,
:12:24. > :12:28.this is getting people away from following football. Getting out,
:12:28. > :12:32.getting a broader interest, finding things we are good at, activities
:12:32. > :12:36.people can get fit doing. People having the team work experiences,
:12:36. > :12:39.so we get more people into sport. Surely that is a great thing.
:12:39. > :12:44.will talk more about this later, thank you, that is Greg Searle,
:12:44. > :12:48.whose personal Olympic experience dates back 20 years. We will delve
:12:48. > :12:51.back further now. To the London Games of 1948. Which came in, on
:12:51. > :13:00.time, under budget, and in black and white.
:13:01. > :13:05.We have been considering what we might learn now from then.
:13:05. > :13:09.Could it be that there was a different spirit abroad then.
:13:09. > :13:16.Afterall, we had just come through a war. People had got used to
:13:16. > :13:20.making do, and not making a fuss. Take the man who brought the torch
:13:21. > :13:27.to Wembley Stadium, to inaugurate the games. Did it bother him that
:13:27. > :13:30.it was shedding hot gouts of poet it is a yum everywhere? Of course
:13:30. > :13:35.it didn't, any more than the spectator, they hadn't felt warmth
:13:35. > :13:42.like that in years. Excitement was at fever pitch. Times were so hard,
:13:42. > :13:50.that the cyclists had to share bikes. But they drew the crowds to
:13:50. > :13:55.Herne Hill, velodrome in south London. You know they make all this
:13:55. > :13:59.fuss about this Wiggins fella! Newsnight is pitting itself against
:13:59. > :14:06.Herne Hill's notorious wall of death, together with author, Janie
:14:06. > :14:10.Hampton, who has written about the' 48 games. There was food rationing,
:14:10. > :14:16.petrol rationing, clothes rationing, it was incredibly difficult to get
:14:16. > :14:19.hold of any building materials. Hence the austerity nickname for
:14:19. > :14:25.the games? The only labour available was German prisoners of
:14:25. > :14:32.war. Did they build this? They didn't build any special arenas for
:14:33. > :14:39.the Olympics. In the pastoral beauty of Richmond Park, with
:14:39. > :14:45.ancient trees and grazing deer, a temporary home for visitors. Today,
:14:45. > :14:49.that is to G4S, soldiers have moved in with the athletes. Back in 1948,
:14:49. > :14:54.the reverse was true, athletes moved into what was a convalesce
:14:54. > :15:03.sant hospital for soldiers. It was a different story for the high-ups
:15:03. > :15:11.of the Olympic family, who enjoyed Britain's first infinity pool! John
:15:11. > :15:16.Mann won a silver medal for Great Britain. -- Dorothy Manley won a
:15:16. > :15:24.silver medal for Britain, Dorothy, a shorthand typist, could do the
:15:24. > :15:29.100ms in 12.2 seconds, and 100 words perminute. Was she on a high-
:15:29. > :15:33.performance diet like today's elite runners? Kind of. The only thing I
:15:33. > :15:41.remember was having steak, my mother and father could have t they
:15:41. > :15:47.could buy it, I was able to have it. That was rather nice. What about
:15:47. > :15:51.high altitude training, practically de rigueur today, not so much. John
:15:51. > :15:59.and her future husband, John, also a runner, got into the zone of
:15:59. > :16:04.London 1948, with a gruelling stay at Butlin's Clacton. It was not an
:16:04. > :16:06.exacting schedule, we were keen to run, and we had good basic food, we
:16:06. > :16:13.didn't have all the rubbish they are fed as youngsters. I think that
:16:13. > :16:19.is why we are living to the age we live to. Who was the scientific
:16:19. > :16:26.genius behind special diets for John, authorisity and the rest of
:16:26. > :16:32.the -- Dorothy and the rest of the great British team? # Blinding me
:16:32. > :16:38.with science That's right, it was windmill-armed
:16:38. > :16:43.BBC doctor, Magnus Pike, long before he appeared in pop videos,
:16:43. > :16:46.he was a scientist. He said olympians can't train on 2,500
:16:46. > :16:56.calories a day, which is what adults were allowed. They should be
:16:56. > :16:57.
:16:57. > :17:01.allowed the same as a coal miner, which was 3,500 a day.
:17:01. > :17:08.competitors struggled to master the new food rations. A cyclist accuses
:17:08. > :17:13.a rival of testing positive for potted tongue! But while athletes
:17:13. > :17:18.splurged at the butchers, the national mood was distinctly frugal.
:17:18. > :17:24.The initial budget for the 2012 games was �2.4 billion, it is
:17:24. > :17:28.likely to be �9 billion. Although the Commons committee has estimated
:17:28. > :17:32.security costs will push it to �11 billion. By contrast, three
:17:32. > :17:38.quarters of a million pounds, the equivalent of �20 million today,
:17:38. > :17:45.was set ased side for The Austerity Olympics. They came in at a thrifty
:17:45. > :17:52.�76 2,000, and ticket sales 76 2,000, meaning the games turned a
:17:52. > :17:57.small profit of �30,000. Everybody was happy, everybody was cheering.
:17:57. > :18:03.Everybody was looking forward to it. Dorothy Tyler, a high-jumping
:18:03. > :18:10.mother of two from south London took silver in a tensely-fought
:18:10. > :18:14.contest. It was a wonderful atmosphere. It was packed every day.
:18:14. > :18:21.They all stayed on, the king and the Queen stayed on to watch me
:18:21. > :18:24.jump. We broke the Olympic record. We might think we have it tough in
:18:24. > :18:28.today's recession, it was hardly a picnic in 1948, back then the
:18:28. > :18:34.British olympians were amateurs who did it all for the love of sport.
:18:34. > :18:43.They had to. You had to go and work in your factory or office. One of
:18:43. > :18:49.the British team, who was in the 100m final, Alastair McCorkadale. I
:18:49. > :18:54.asked him how he trained, he said he just stubbed out his cigarette
:18:54. > :19:01.and ran. Wheeze it softly, but he nearly bagged a medal on his regime
:19:01. > :19:09.of John Players, just being edged into fourth in this early instance
:19:09. > :19:14.of a photo finish. The back up for the Brits might
:19:14. > :19:18.have been a bit thin back then, but there was nothing thread bare about
:19:18. > :19:23.their undergarments, a free pair of drawers for every male competitor
:19:23. > :19:26.was the promise of the pantsman here. Would our veterans swap
:19:26. > :19:30.places with today's olympians. wouldn't, because I wouldn't like
:19:30. > :19:34.it to be the bee all and end all. My aim in life was to get married
:19:34. > :19:40.and have a family, that's what, luckily, I was able to do. I
:19:40. > :19:46.couldn't have put all that aside just to run. No. I couldn't have
:19:46. > :19:51.stood all the regime. I ran because it was fun. If there's one last
:19:51. > :19:56.thing the present games are lacking, it is a rousing specially-penned
:19:56. > :20:03.anthem, like the one they sang 64 years ago.
:20:03. > :20:09.# If all the lands # Could run with all the others
:20:09. > :20:14.# And work as sweetly # As the young men play
:20:14. > :20:20.# Moves with a laugh # And battle as brothers
:20:20. > :20:24.# Loving to win # But not win every day
:20:24. > :20:29.Greg Searle is still with us, we are joined by two of the 1948
:20:29. > :20:32.olympians from Steve's report, Dorothy and John Parlett, and
:20:32. > :20:35.Matthew Taylor, part of the Downing Street team when the games were
:20:35. > :20:39.secured, and Giles Coren, who, for the Times this week, has been
:20:39. > :20:42.playing close attention to the buns at McDonalds and the women's beach
:20:42. > :20:47.volley ball. We hoped to be joined by the Olympic secretary, Jeremy
:20:47. > :20:51.Hunt who told us he would be with us live in the studio,
:20:51. > :20:55.but...Sometimes the best laid plans don't work out.
:20:55. > :21:03.John and Dorothy, thank you for joining us in the studio. What do
:21:03. > :21:08.you think the 2012 games could learn from 1948? I was looking at
:21:08. > :21:14.the official report before we came here, and they had a problem with
:21:14. > :21:19.tickets. They had allocated tickets for the foreign countries that were
:21:19. > :21:25.coming here, and at a fairly late stage, these countries decided they
:21:25. > :21:30.didn't want the tickets. So they had a problem. And there was a
:21:30. > :21:36.comment that those who are organising further games should
:21:36. > :21:41.look at these comments and do something about it. But some how,
:21:41. > :21:46.somebody somewhere didn't. You talked, Dorothy, about you wouldn't
:21:46. > :21:50.want to be part of the athletics now, it wouldn't be your scene, but
:21:50. > :21:58.in terms of how big the games have become, do you think they are too
:21:58. > :22:02.big? Do think they are too big, I think there are too many events
:22:02. > :22:07.nowadays. Putting football, tennis in, which have got things in their
:22:07. > :22:11.own right, haven't they, that they can look up to. From your joint
:22:11. > :22:18.experience, obviously taking part in the 1948 games, do you think
:22:18. > :22:23.Britain are now more swept up in the games than they were then?
:22:23. > :22:31.seem to be. But, quite honestly, I can't really remember, it was 64
:22:31. > :22:36.years ago, you know. I know there was 80,000, virtually the same
:22:36. > :22:42.amount of people watching. quickly did people forget the 1948
:22:42. > :22:47.games? I know it has taken you 60 years, did people remember in 1949
:22:47. > :22:52.what happened? I don't know. What did happen was that there was,
:22:52. > :23:00.as far as the athletics was concerned, they set up a national
:23:00. > :23:06.coaching scheme to train people in the clubs to be coaches so they
:23:06. > :23:10.could bring youngsters on, by 1950, at the European Championships,
:23:10. > :23:16.there were two young women that ran very well, that hadn't run in the
:23:16. > :23:20.Olympics, they had come up. I think they had gained a lot through this
:23:20. > :23:25.scheme that was going. So clubs were getting more involved.
:23:25. > :23:29.Matthew, I know you are a bit worried about the size of the games.
:23:29. > :23:34.Of itn't quite what you expected? think the games are -- it isn't
:23:34. > :23:38.quite what you expected? I think the games are fantastic, it is
:23:38. > :23:41.great to see the excitement running across the country. We have to be
:23:41. > :23:45.realistic about the knock-on effects of the Olympics. I heard
:23:45. > :23:49.John Major saying today this will be a massive boost for Britain and
:23:49. > :23:52.get us back on track. I'm not sure that is the case. I think the
:23:52. > :23:56.Olympics are great. And it is a great sporting event. You want them
:23:56. > :23:59.to be smaller and cheaper, that is what you were expecting? Everybody
:23:59. > :24:03.knows when you set the Olympic budget, it is likely to end up more
:24:03. > :24:06.than it was. In terms of the organisation. The strength of this
:24:06. > :24:10.Olympics has been the organisation, it is extremely good, you look at
:24:10. > :24:14.the number of people going to all the event. The legacy planning is
:24:14. > :24:20.better than other Olympics, it couldn't be much worse. If there is
:24:20. > :24:23.a problem, we want these Olympic on grounds of diversity and inclusion.
:24:23. > :24:28.-- Olympics on grounds of diversity and inclusion. That story isn't as
:24:28. > :24:33.strong. It is not quite as clear to me what the core message of the
:24:33. > :24:38.Olympics are, what are we trying to say about Britain, other than we
:24:38. > :24:42.are good at organising major events. You have been at the Olympic Park,
:24:42. > :24:46.what is the message? I think it is a poor look when John Major says
:24:46. > :24:51.everything will be OK. I have enjoyed myself, I have a Willy
:24:51. > :24:55.Wonka golden ticket I can go to everything, being low on the roster
:24:55. > :24:59.of experts, that usually means the trampolining and the live goat
:24:59. > :25:02.racing. But it is basically it is enormous, far too large. I have
:25:02. > :25:05.been writing it from the Opening Ceremony, right up close, face
:25:05. > :25:08.pressed against the window. You can't begin to comprehend it.
:25:08. > :25:13.Whatever you are at there is something better happening down the
:25:13. > :25:18.road T might be an hour across London or out at Eton Dorney, there
:25:18. > :25:22.is 17 different athletics tracks in the one park. 1948 sounds like it
:25:22. > :25:27.was comprehensible, you had fit, strong young people running around
:25:27. > :25:32.in circles and you gave medals to the best ones. Now I spend a couple
:25:32. > :25:37.of days in the McDonalds, why it would be the main sponsor,
:25:37. > :25:42.McDonalds, Coca-Cola and Heineken, the three dietry supplements you
:25:42. > :25:45.need to be an athlete, and then you have the busiest McDonalds in the
:25:45. > :25:49.world at the centre of it, it sounds bogus. Kids we are talking
:25:49. > :25:54.about, will sit down, watch television and emulate this, they
:25:54. > :25:58.will go out and eat Hamburgers. There was another attempt, apart
:25:58. > :26:04.from inclusion and diversity to give these Olympics a distinct feel,
:26:04. > :26:08.that is when Boris in Beijing did his bumling brilliance that they
:26:08. > :26:11.would be more humane and generous, because of corporate sponsorship,
:26:11. > :26:15.security and high-tech, we haven't been able to to that either. What
:26:15. > :26:21.is the legacy from that? interested in this point about
:26:21. > :26:26.London, and what London is like in 1948 and in 2012. To me, London is
:26:26. > :26:29.a proud, diverse, multicultural city now, with so many nations, so
:26:29. > :26:32.many different cultures coming together, living shoulder-to-
:26:33. > :26:36.shoulder with each other, that is what London is about to me. And we
:26:36. > :26:39.have the games. You don't want these countries to come to London
:26:39. > :26:42.and be supported by people who support all that diversity, all
:26:42. > :26:51.those countries coming together, and everyone has someone who wants
:26:51. > :26:56.to support those nations and to see the Sculler from Niger competing at
:26:56. > :27:01.rowing with support. It is sur priegs you don't want that. What is
:27:01. > :27:04.the legacy of these games, in if a year's time, what will we remember?
:27:04. > :27:09.People will have memories for the rest of their memories. What is
:27:09. > :27:13.life, other than fantastic memories. It is a snapshot or photograph?
:27:13. > :27:18.don't think it is an enormous amount more than. That the most
:27:18. > :27:22.disappointing thing is our hopes this would increase sporting
:27:22. > :27:25.participation, especially for disadvantage groups, has not been
:27:25. > :27:30.fulfilled and next year we will see cuts in school sports. We will have
:27:30. > :27:34.to fight hard to keep that. I have an 11-year-old daughter, I want
:27:35. > :27:38.sports available my daughter can play. I totally agree we don't need
:27:38. > :27:42.more football and tennis, what about handball, and the women's
:27:42. > :27:51.football team. What about the women rowers winning today, what about
:27:51. > :27:56.the women psyche cysts all the -- cyclists, all the female role
:27:56. > :28:04.models. So my daughter has someone to look up to as an 11-year-old,
:28:04. > :28:10.and think, I won't sit and watch Disney channel and X Factor, but to
:28:10. > :28:13.go out and get a good heart and lungs. Did it have to happen here
:28:13. > :28:19.and Britain spend the countless billions? Yes, because we wouldn't
:28:19. > :28:24.have invested in those sports, and have a home entry for sports like
:28:24. > :28:28.handball or volley ball, those role models wouldn't be there.
:28:28. > :28:34.should we pretend we will make money out of it and get �9 billion
:28:34. > :28:38.out. Why not say it is a gift, we are putting it on for the world,
:28:38. > :28:41.come back and have fun. It is hard to measure how much money you make
:28:41. > :28:46.from something. We should just give it away. I don't think the goal of
:28:46. > :28:50.the Olympic Games was to say, let's put it on and make money. The goal
:28:50. > :28:55.was to create the greatest show on earth and show what a beautiful
:28:55. > :29:02.city London is to the world. legacy planning in East London is
:29:02. > :29:04.good, the thing we can be hopeful that we won't see stories about
:29:04. > :29:11.derelict sites. I think they have done everything they can to
:29:11. > :29:17.mitigate that possibility. When you walk through the Olympic Park now,
:29:17. > :29:21.it is easy to imagine tumbleweed. If you look at other Olympics, if
:29:21. > :29:26.nations improve their performance and the Olympics after that and
:29:26. > :29:30.that their performance dips, there isn't really a strategy to build on
:29:30. > :29:34.sporting participation on what is achieved at the Olympics.
:29:34. > :29:42.disagree, look at the creation of role models in the sports I have
:29:42. > :29:48.mentioned. The effect of a successful games we had in Sydney,
:29:48. > :29:52.we have gone from one Olympic medal in 1996, Great Britain, then we had
:29:52. > :29:57.a National Lottery, people put money into sport, we have invested
:29:57. > :30:00.in sport, and now we win 19 gold medals in the Beijing Olympics.
:30:00. > :30:05.Thank you for bringing in the medals and thank you for. That they
:30:05. > :30:15.are getting bigger as the years go on. Nice it see you all. That's all
:30:15. > :30:18.
:30:18. > :30:20.from Newsnight, Kirsty here on from Newsnight, Kirsty here on
:30:20. > :30:23.Monday, have a good weekend. It looks like Saturday will be
:30:23. > :30:27.another day of sunny spells, and also some heavy showers, the
:30:27. > :30:30.showers, initially of the lighter variety, but come the afternoon
:30:30. > :30:33.they will be turning heavy across parts of northern England in
:30:33. > :30:37.particular, a focal point for some thunder, lightning and rain in a
:30:37. > :30:41.short space of time. As you get towards the south eastern corner,
:30:41. > :30:45.leading something of a charmed life, the showers few and far between,
:30:45. > :30:49.that is good news for most of the Olympic venues, it is dryer than
:30:49. > :30:53.elsewhere in the UK. Lots of heavy showers in parts of the south-west
:30:53. > :30:56.of England. The east of Wales a focal point for heavy showers, as
:30:56. > :31:00.the Midlands, the further west you are decent spells of sunshine
:31:00. > :31:03.coming and going, the odd light shower as well. Northern Ireland,
:31:03. > :31:07.well sunshine here from time to time, but equally the cloud will
:31:07. > :31:11.thicken up and produce some showers. Temperatures never getting out of
:31:11. > :31:14.the high teens, similar temperatures in Scotland. 19 or so
:31:14. > :31:17.in Glasgow. It is south of Glasgow where most of the heaviest showers
:31:17. > :31:21.are likely to be. Through the evening a lot of those showers tend
:31:21. > :31:24.to fade away, they will be back again on Sunday. Meanwhile, if you
:31:24. > :31:28.are heading off into northern Europe, an unsettled look for
:31:28. > :31:31.things for Amsterdam, Paris and Berlin, with showers through the
:31:31. > :31:35.weekend, meanwhile further south through the Mediterranean, it is