:00:12. > :00:16.The crucial reshuffle of David Cameron's administration was never
:00:16. > :00:21.going to change the direction of Government, so what has it done?
:00:21. > :00:25.Can a former banker, a former miner, and a man who boasts of his own
:00:25. > :00:30.plane, and fabulous mansion, make the British people clasp this
:00:30. > :00:33.Government to its bossom. Is this to be harder edge, more populist
:00:33. > :00:38.coalition, one of those to receive preferment today is here. We will
:00:38. > :00:43.be chewing over the fat with the reshuffle significance with a panel
:00:43. > :00:47.of politicians. Also tonight, how is it that in a welfare state,
:00:48. > :00:53.maybe 200,000 of us only eat if we go to a food bank. It took things
:00:53. > :00:58.to get that bad, for me to pick up the phone in the first place, and
:00:58. > :01:04.meet someone like Gavin and say, I'm not coping.
:01:04. > :01:09.I'm trying, but I'm not coping. food banks The Big Idea society in
:01:09. > :01:12.action, or a terrible indictment of Government policy. We will discuss
:01:12. > :01:22.with David Cameron's former speechwriter a food bank charity
:01:22. > :01:25.
:01:25. > :01:28.leader and a Labour MP. The Health Secretary who spent eight years
:01:28. > :01:34.learning his way around the NHS, will be leader of the House of
:01:34. > :01:38.Commons. And the man who knows all about opera and the Olympics, gets
:01:38. > :01:41.to learn about other things. Other unwanted individuals get jobs
:01:41. > :01:44.created for them in the best traditions of the worst run parts
:01:44. > :01:49.of the public sector. David Cameron's reshuffle of his
:01:49. > :01:53.Government isn't especially easy to make sense of. But we're going to
:01:53. > :01:57.try. Give us the headlines, first off. It is a bit of a list, first
:01:57. > :02:00.of all, no major changes at the top. But lower down there were
:02:00. > :02:03.significant changes. The first is Justine Greening. She's now become
:02:03. > :02:06.the International Development Secretary, but she was Transport
:02:06. > :02:10.Secretary, and she opposed the third runway at Heathrow, we do
:02:10. > :02:13.expect some changes on that policy in the next few months. Her being
:02:14. > :02:17.moved confirms that. She's replaced by Patrick McLoughlin. We will
:02:17. > :02:22.explain later in our package fully what that means. It is not as
:02:22. > :02:31.obvious as people think. The other one is Andrew Lansley. He, as you
:02:31. > :02:34.said in the piece he is now leader of the House and Jeremy Hunt
:02:34. > :02:38.becomes Health Secretary. He has not had a brilliant year in the
:02:38. > :02:44.last 12 months. Baroness Warsi, who has appeared on the programme a lot,
:02:44. > :02:48.she's no longer chairman, she is the Foreign Office minister, it is
:02:48. > :02:52.a demotion she's not happy with it. She is replaced by Grant Shapps,
:02:52. > :02:56.the new Conservative chairman. Keneth Clarke, familiar to many
:02:56. > :03:00.people, he will no longer have a portfolio, but he will rove,
:03:00. > :03:05.because he has the gift of the gab. He will explain their policies
:03:05. > :03:09.across Government, critically he won't explain prisons, which was a
:03:09. > :03:15.policy he engineered, and didn't go down well with many people, except
:03:15. > :03:18.the Liberal Democrats. Chris Grayling replaced him and the as
:03:18. > :03:23.Justice Secretary, with some nuance he has a harder position on these
:03:23. > :03:25.things. Iain Duncan Smith, he doesn't go anywhere, that is why
:03:25. > :03:30.he's one of the biggest stories. The Prime Minister asked him to
:03:31. > :03:40.move and he said, no. It sounds like minor changes, but
:03:41. > :03:45.could have major impact. It is never normally like this, the walk
:03:45. > :03:49.of shame or fame, required when a Prime Minister reshuffles, was
:03:49. > :03:55.today unusually festooned by the bunting of the Olympics. Little
:03:55. > :04:00.triangles of jolity, would have made Harold Macmillan's Night of
:04:00. > :04:03.the Long Knives seem like a children's party. Today unlucky
:04:03. > :04:06.number were contemplating Westminster's career catwalk.
:04:06. > :04:10.Inside this building in Downing Street they talk about the
:04:10. > :04:14.Government's priority as a triangle, as a triangle the bunting will do.
:04:14. > :04:18.At the pointy end up deficit reduction, beneath that the two
:04:18. > :04:22.priorities of welfare reform and education. Today's reshuffle was
:04:22. > :04:26.about putting better communicators in place to explain, talk and go on
:04:26. > :04:30.about that triangle. This man was David Cameron's most senior special
:04:30. > :04:34.adviser on public sector reform until three months ago. If you
:04:34. > :04:39.actually look at the posts and the kinds of people put in place, it is
:04:39. > :04:43.a very, very strategic thing. Jeremy Hunt at health is an obvious
:04:43. > :04:46.big one, Andrew Lansley will go down in history as great reformer.
:04:46. > :04:49.There are questions about how that reform was communicated, and Jeremy
:04:49. > :04:53.Hunt has been put there to deal with that specific question. You
:04:53. > :04:58.have two-and-a-half years until the next general election, a lot of
:04:58. > :05:00.reforms that have been put in place need to carry on. Except the
:05:00. > :05:03.trouble is, the first move attempted by the Prime Minister,
:05:03. > :05:09.would tinker with one corner of that triangle. A sense of what was
:05:09. > :05:12.going on last night was suggested on Newsnight by one of our own.
:05:12. > :05:16.talk about Iain Duncan Smith, he has reached the point where he has
:05:16. > :05:21.introduced the reforms, it might be a different person you want to
:05:21. > :05:25.implement the reforms. So you would change welfare secretary at this
:05:25. > :05:28.point. Danny Finkelstein was on our programme telling us that Duncan
:05:28. > :05:32.Smith was telling the Prime Minister that actually he wouldn't
:05:32. > :05:35.be moved. We know one of the men in charge of the corners of the
:05:35. > :05:39.triangle, is someone the Government would rather not be in post. The
:05:39. > :05:44.reshuffle had perhaps misfired in its earliest hours last night. But
:05:44. > :05:48.as Tuesday wore on, the Government's shop got more steady.
:05:48. > :05:54.By teatime, you could almost see the target they were aiming for. On
:05:54. > :05:57.the one hand, a defeat for the Chancellor for not removing Iain
:05:57. > :06:02.Duncan Smith, that will become a problem in years to come as they
:06:02. > :06:05.try to get cuts from welfare. But seven ministers of state were
:06:05. > :06:09.listed as owing their promotion to George Osborne, on aviation, the
:06:09. > :06:12.environment, on planning and even childcare. It is clear now that the
:06:12. > :06:18.Chancellor will push through his will. A new job for the man who
:06:18. > :06:21.made sure the Olympic bunting was deserved. Paul Dayton, who has been
:06:21. > :06:28.ennobled, he delivered the Olympics, and the Government think he can
:06:28. > :06:31.deliver for them on the economy. Liz Truss, changing childcare, Greg
:06:31. > :06:33.Clarke to change City policy, Michael Fallon keeping an eye on
:06:33. > :06:36.Vince Cable in business, Owen Paterson sceptical on the
:06:36. > :06:43.environment, Patrick McLoughlin clears the way for more airport
:06:43. > :06:53.capacity in the south-east. Mark Holborn will help the Treasury get
:06:53. > :06:53.
:06:53. > :06:57.that �10 million out of the coffers. They turn around the fortunes of
:06:57. > :07:02.both coalition parties into the 2015 elections. It is promotion now
:07:02. > :07:06.that really matters, not promotion to the Government in future
:07:06. > :07:10.reshuffles. The promotions today include Chris Grayling, Keneth
:07:10. > :07:14.Clarke's liberal prison policy of rose garden days is no more. Though
:07:14. > :07:20.Grayling won't junk it all. He has no truck for European rulings or an
:07:20. > :07:26.overzealous culture of human rights. Keneth Clarke's demise is possibly
:07:26. > :07:29.the biggest Lib Dem news in this reshuffle. This sees the rise of
:07:29. > :07:32.blue collar Conservatism., Chris Grayling has the job because it is
:07:32. > :07:36.thought he can talk better to Tory Party voters about crime. Liz Truss
:07:36. > :07:39.has the job, because the party thinks she has the ideas to bring
:07:39. > :07:42.down the cost of childcare. Patrick McLoughlin's appointment is partly
:07:42. > :07:46.about clearing the way for the third runway at Heathrow. But it is
:07:46. > :07:49.also because he's a straight talking northerner, who can talk
:07:49. > :07:52.convincingly to voters about rail fares and the cost of fuel. This is
:07:52. > :07:56.a cost of living reshuffle. appointment of Patrick McLoughlin
:07:56. > :08:00.is the most interesting to me, because, obviously, an ex-miner
:08:00. > :08:05.from the northern area, he has been brought out of the shadows into
:08:05. > :08:10.transport. Which may not be a kind of top-teir Government department,
:08:10. > :08:14.in terms of spending and reputation and so on, but actually, if you
:08:14. > :08:17.look at ordinary working people, transport is a massive issue for
:08:17. > :08:19.them. Today Cameron attempted to make good his pledge to have a
:08:19. > :08:23.third of his Government women by the end of the parliament.
:08:23. > :08:26.Newsnight was in Downing Street when two of them found out. But it
:08:26. > :08:30.wasn't enough to mask the reduction of the number of women as full
:08:30. > :08:35.cabinet ministers, down from five. On this going, he will struggle to
:08:35. > :08:40.meet his target. Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, lost no time in
:08:40. > :08:44.denouncing the removal of one woman, Justine Greening, because of her
:08:44. > :08:49.opposition to Heathrow. Johnson accused the Government of ditching
:08:49. > :08:54.its promises, he pledged to tight this. -- fight this. The bunting
:08:54. > :08:57.goes away with the Paralympics, this reshuffle has to pay off for
:08:57. > :09:02.both coalition parties to have cause to get it out again in 2015.
:09:02. > :09:05.Good day for the Prime Minister, do you think? It is a reminder of how
:09:05. > :09:10.many back seat drivers he has on all the issues he has. We heard
:09:11. > :09:14.from three Tory leaders today. Iain Duncan Smith saying you can't move
:09:14. > :09:18.him, and Boris Johnson saying you can't do that. He doesn't operate
:09:18. > :09:24.with masses of free space, but I do think it is more impressive than
:09:24. > :09:27.many feel. The personnel brought in may not be very well known to
:09:27. > :09:30.people, but they are people who do have ideas. They have the
:09:30. > :09:35.capability, if they can persuade the Civil Service of their ideas,
:09:35. > :09:39.and if they have the time, to do some things that might make a
:09:39. > :09:41.difference. Whether it will be -- they will pull it off, I don't know.
:09:41. > :09:44.It is more interesting than some people think.
:09:44. > :09:48.We live in an ever-changing world, but there are some enduring things
:09:49. > :09:52.you can count upon, come Shane or shine, winter or summer, elections
:09:52. > :09:55.or reshuffle, one of them is Michael Fallon making a trip into
:09:55. > :09:58.the Newsnight studio. Thank you for coming. Can we expect any changes
:09:58. > :10:01.of direction or anything as a result of this reshuffle? No, it is
:10:01. > :10:03.a big reshuffle, it is a very important reshuffle, what it
:10:03. > :10:08.demonstrates is the Government really means business now there is
:10:08. > :10:14.a new team that is going to fight for our future. And they didn't
:10:14. > :10:17.mean it before? We are at a different stage. We have a
:10:17. > :10:20.deteriorating outlook in Europe and the world economy, we have really
:10:20. > :10:24.got to step up the pace and get the growth this country needs. That is
:10:24. > :10:28.what the new team is there for. When Boris Johnson says there is
:10:28. > :10:33.only one reason for sacking Justine Greening, to build a new runway at
:10:34. > :10:37.Heathrow, he's wrong? She hasn't been sacked, but moved to an
:10:37. > :10:40.important department, international development, we have a big job to
:10:40. > :10:44.do, to persuade the British people, at a difficult time in our economy,
:10:44. > :10:48.that we have a moral duty to help the rest of the world, the poorer
:10:48. > :10:52.parts of the world with overseas aid. From which she was moved on in
:10:52. > :10:56.less than a year. Boris Johnson says the only reason for doing that,
:10:56. > :11:00.is because you want to change your policy on Heathrow s that true?
:11:00. > :11:03.That is completely wrong. The policy on Heathrow stays exactly as
:11:03. > :11:09.it is. This Government won't build a new runway at Heathrow under this
:11:09. > :11:12.Government. But, you know, there is a juggling around every time with
:11:12. > :11:15.the cabinet. Suddenly the Chief Whip became available, former
:11:15. > :11:18.transport minister, very experienced person in Whitehall,
:11:18. > :11:21.was available to be Transport Secretary. There is a big job to be
:11:21. > :11:25.done, as I said, in international development, in persuading people
:11:25. > :11:29.of the importance of overseas aid. There was a natural fit there.
:11:29. > :11:33.own job, you are going to Vince Cable's department to be Number Ten,
:11:33. > :11:36.tell us, a voice for business. Isn't there a voice there already
:11:36. > :11:39.in the business department? There is, but there is a big job to be
:11:39. > :11:44.done in ensuring we really do get the growth this economy needs now.
:11:45. > :11:47.And to drive the business agenda. You will hear later this week new
:11:48. > :11:52.proposals to develop our infrastructure, to support more
:11:52. > :11:55.affordable housing, for example, to speed up planning, to deregulate,
:11:56. > :11:59.this is work that is never done. We have to step up the pace now to
:11:59. > :12:04.make sure this economy starts to keep growing and growing faster.
:12:04. > :12:08.hasn't been doing that, has it? has, the private sector has already
:12:08. > :12:11.created nearly a million new jobs in two years. As you know very well.
:12:11. > :12:14.The eurozone economies have deteriorated. The world economic
:12:14. > :12:18.outlook is worse than anybody predicted two years ago. We have
:12:18. > :12:23.simply got to work harder and harder at getting the growth we
:12:23. > :12:28.want. You are like the seventh cavalry riding to the rescue at the
:12:29. > :12:35.be Knighted department are you? department doesn't need rescuing,
:12:35. > :12:41.we have to focus relentlessly on growth, and every couple of years
:12:41. > :12:46.the team needs to be refreshed. Aleg gra put her finger on it, she
:12:46. > :12:49.says you are going there to keep an eye on Vince Cable? I'm looking out
:12:49. > :12:53.for business. Do you have absolute confidence of Vince Cable's
:12:53. > :12:56.management of the economy? Absolutely, I'm there to help his
:12:56. > :13:00.agenda of helping British business create jobs. Can you tell us why it
:13:00. > :13:04.is that Keneth Clarke has joined the cabinet, as yet another voice
:13:04. > :13:06.on economic affairs, apparently when you have already got three
:13:06. > :13:10.within cabinet? Keneth Clarke has already served in six big
:13:10. > :13:15.departments, you think it is only fair, at his age, to let somebody
:13:15. > :13:18.else have a go. We are not losing hisser experience, he will be there
:13:18. > :13:22.at the cabinet table, and serve on the National Security Council, of
:13:22. > :13:26.course, he will contribute his economic expertise, a former
:13:26. > :13:29.Chancellor, to the various economic committees of the cabinet. That
:13:29. > :13:32.expertise will be very welcome to the Chancellor. How many people can
:13:32. > :13:37.sit at the cabinet table? I'm not sure the exact number. I don't
:13:37. > :13:44.think it is any more than Tony Blair had at his cabinet table or
:13:44. > :13:48.Gordon Brown. It is over 30, it is more? Can you all sit down? There
:13:48. > :13:52.are many who can't attend. There are chairs for all of them. It is
:13:52. > :13:54.very important not to lose the experience of people like Kenneth
:13:54. > :13:58.Clarke, he has been a Chancellor of the Exchequer, and industry
:13:58. > :14:04.secretary before, and has a huge amount to contribute. That is good
:14:04. > :14:07.news. Anybody you will miss? It is sad to see some go. When you
:14:07. > :14:12.refresh a team, there are people who served in Government who have
:14:12. > :14:16.to be let down. One of the things David Cameron has done in this
:14:16. > :14:19.reshuffle, which wasn't fully brought out. He's a Conservative
:14:19. > :14:24.Prime Minister that brought into Government the largest number of
:14:24. > :14:31.women, ever. A huge raft of new women ministers. Who were appointed
:14:32. > :14:36.today. Helen Grant, Esther McVeigh. There is not a cat in hell's chance
:14:36. > :14:39.you will get a third of the Government to be women? It is still
:14:39. > :14:42.the promise, this is the largest number of women appointed in a
:14:42. > :14:46.single day by a Conservative Prime Minister. That's extremely good
:14:46. > :14:51.news. There is a new generation now of Conservatives. People who
:14:51. > :14:54.haven't always been there. Five out of 31 at the cabinet table, by my
:14:54. > :14:57.calculations, doesn't amount to one third? It is not a third yet, but
:14:57. > :15:00.you have to start by getting them into parliament. David Cameron
:15:00. > :15:03.changed the Conservative Party to do that. Now you see them coming
:15:04. > :15:08.through as junior ministers, and soon in the fullness of time you
:15:08. > :15:12.will see them coming through to the cabinet. You saw two coming through
:15:12. > :15:17.today. Maria Miller and Theresa Villiers were appointed to the
:15:17. > :15:20.Government. We also saw some going? You can't exempt women from the
:15:20. > :15:24.inevitable reshuffle when people change departments. I would suggest
:15:24. > :15:28.you have to in order to increase the proportion? The proportion of
:15:28. > :15:31.ministers is being increased and he's working towards that total.
:15:31. > :15:33.What about poor old Andrew Lansley, he spends years and years trying to
:15:33. > :15:38.understand the National Health Service, he starts bringing in some
:15:38. > :15:42.reforms and then he gets the chop? He has spent eight years dealing
:15:42. > :15:46.with that portfolio all together. It is a very long time, and very
:15:46. > :15:49.unusual for somebody running a single portfolio. Very unusual for
:15:49. > :15:53.that length of time. He has got the reforms through parliament. We are
:15:53. > :15:57.in a new phase where we need to deliver the reform, he was offered
:15:57. > :16:01.a promotion today to leader of the House, it is one of the most
:16:01. > :16:06.important jobs in parliament. He has taken that, and succeeded by a
:16:06. > :16:10.really good communicator in Jeremy Hunt. What does he know about the
:16:10. > :16:14.health service? He's obviously got to bone up on the health service,
:16:14. > :16:17.all ministers have been involved in all these policy areas. Andrew
:16:17. > :16:21.Lansley wasn't involved in the health service before he became the
:16:21. > :16:23.shadow secretary. He spent eight years learning about it. He wasn't
:16:23. > :16:27.involved before that. It is inevitable you have ministers
:16:27. > :16:31.coming new to the briefs. That is a good thing. They bring fresh
:16:31. > :16:35.experience he is a proven manager and proven communicator, Jeremy
:16:35. > :16:39.Hunt, by the way, he has just delivered the most successful
:16:39. > :16:42.Olympics this country has ever seen. What has that got to do with it?
:16:42. > :16:52.shows he can deliver, we want him to deliver the health service
:16:52. > :16:58.
:16:58. > :17:05.reforms. Two in cabinet before Methusela was in the land, my
:17:05. > :17:08.guests are here, with Mary McLoed here two years. First of all,
:17:08. > :17:12.Justine Greening, Boris Johnson says the only reason she was sacked
:17:12. > :17:16.was so your party could change its policy on Heathrow, and build more
:17:16. > :17:20.air capacity there. What would happen if your party did that?
:17:20. > :17:23.priority is not going to change -- the party will not change its view,
:17:23. > :17:28.and the coalition won't change its view on the third runway. We will
:17:28. > :17:32.hold firm to the agreement we had with the coalition and ls to each
:17:32. > :17:36.of our manifestos. Could you stay as MP if the policy changed?
:17:36. > :17:39.would stay and fight, absolutely. You would have to resign, wouldn't
:17:39. > :17:42.you? The policy is not going to change in this Government. We have
:17:42. > :17:46.had all senior members of this Government saying the policy won't
:17:46. > :17:52.change, and it will not change. Boris Johnson is just talking
:17:53. > :17:57.rubbish again, is he? I agree with Boris's view on the third third
:17:57. > :18:03.runway, as -- the third runway, as no third runway. Why he is living
:18:03. > :18:06.in fantasy and seeing a change of policy in the offing? I'm not Boris.
:18:06. > :18:11.But the important thing is there is no change in policy in this
:18:11. > :18:13.Government on the third runway. We have stated that categorically.
:18:13. > :18:16.Senior membership of the Government, including the Prime Minister,
:18:16. > :18:20.Foreign Secretary and the Home Secretary, have all reiterated
:18:20. > :18:23.there will be no change in policy on the third runway. Do you see
:18:24. > :18:29.this reshuffle, for what many people see it to be, a move to the
:18:29. > :18:32.right in Government? There is one particular position, and that's the
:18:32. > :18:36.Justice Secretary, occupied by Chris Grayling. That is something
:18:36. > :18:40.which Liberal Democrat MPs in the House will be watching very
:18:40. > :18:45.carefully indeed. He's replaced Keneth Clarke, who often spoke
:18:45. > :18:49.about those issues concerned as if he was a Liberal Democrat. So the
:18:49. > :18:53.Liberal Democrats will want, maybe that's why he has been moved. We
:18:53. > :18:57.will be looking very, very carefully, because we take a Keneth
:18:57. > :19:01.Clarke view about justice. And Chris Grayling will have to justify
:19:01. > :19:11.anything he says or does, which sur plants from that. You are happy
:19:11. > :19:16.with the rest of the appointments, Owen Paterson at environment?
:19:16. > :19:18.appointment of people who have in the past expressed more right-wing
:19:18. > :19:21.views that than are contained in the coalition agreement. The
:19:21. > :19:25.coalition agreement is for this parliament. As rightly said, during
:19:25. > :19:31.the course of this parliament, the policy on the third runway will not
:19:31. > :19:34.change. But, here I depart slightly from what has been said already,
:19:34. > :19:38.the appointment of Patrick McLoughlin is clearly a signal that
:19:38. > :19:42.in the manifesto of the Conservative Party, at the next
:19:42. > :19:46.general election, there will be a different policy than the one that
:19:46. > :19:51.was in the last manifesto. Or, indeed, in the coalition agreement.
:19:51. > :19:57.It hasn't been written yet, you don't know. Michael Fallon was very
:19:57. > :20:03.specific, he said this Government. That's completely hypothesising
:20:03. > :20:06.about something happening in two- and-a-half years time. You're oddly
:20:06. > :20:09.mute? I haven't been asked a question yet. I will ask you one
:20:09. > :20:15.now. Aren't you thrilled to see the Department of Justice in the hand,
:20:16. > :20:19.at last, of someone who is not a lawyer? Oim' not. We never said it
:20:19. > :20:26.-- I'm not, we never said it had to be a lawyer, but someone standing a
:20:26. > :20:31.bit to the side of Daily politics. When Kenneth Clarke was appointed
:20:31. > :20:36.there, he was brilliant, he might be a Lib Dem for all I know, but
:20:36. > :20:39.he's a man of independent judgment. But Chris Grayling is in touch with
:20:39. > :20:43.public opinion? I don't know if he is or not, I wonder to the extent
:20:43. > :20:47.to which he will gain the trust of people in the system, they will
:20:47. > :20:50.look to him for protection from, for example, politicians like
:20:50. > :20:55.Theresa May, who think there are votes in attacking the judges, for
:20:55. > :20:59.example. Will Chris Grayling defend them? I don't know. One of the
:20:59. > :21:02.things I think is a characteristic of this reshuffle, is the fact that
:21:02. > :21:06.the Prime Minister's effort to avoid controversy, you move Jeremy
:21:06. > :21:10.Hunt from culture, where you would have to deal with the outcome of
:21:10. > :21:13.the Leveson Inquiry, you move Andrew Lansley away from health,
:21:14. > :21:19.because he would have had to implement issues which were very,
:21:19. > :21:23.very controversial. And of course, you move Justine Greening away from
:21:23. > :21:28.transport, as a potentially controversial thing. That's what,
:21:28. > :21:31.behind a lot of this, is an effort it try to dampen down things that
:21:31. > :21:33.would be difficult within the Conservative Party. You were
:21:33. > :21:38.Parliamentary Private Secretary in that department? I was, yes, for
:21:38. > :21:43.the last two years. You recognise this picture of it? I think
:21:43. > :21:46.certainly I enjoyed working with Keneth Clarke, and Nick Herbert,
:21:46. > :21:50.the minister I was PPS to. It is important to keep Keneth Clarke,
:21:50. > :21:54.because of his experience, and he's still incredibly sharp, it is very
:21:54. > :21:58.important to have him around the cabinet table. I like in this
:21:58. > :22:03.reshuffle that it has brought in new faces and more women. More
:22:03. > :22:08.women, it hasn't brought in more women? In the ministerial levels.
:22:08. > :22:12.But fewer in cabinet? Slightly fewer, but down by one in cabinet.
:22:12. > :22:17.But, what the Prime Minister always promised. Do you believe this stuff
:22:17. > :22:21.about being a third of women in this parliament? The Prime Minister
:22:21. > :22:25.aimed for 30% of women in the ministerial, across ministerial
:22:25. > :22:30.appointments. That is still something, I think, he can deliver,
:22:30. > :22:34.over time. We still haven't heard all the appointments yet. In two-
:22:34. > :22:37.and-a-half years? Definitely possible. It is a reshuffle that
:22:37. > :22:41.will reduce trust in politic. Although Michael Fallon is much to
:22:41. > :22:46.be admired for coming to Newsnight on a regular basis. The particular
:22:46. > :22:50.line he was running about Justine Greening, who was there for ten
:22:50. > :22:54.months, and everybody thought she did a good job. The idea she hasn't
:22:54. > :23:00.been moved because of Heathrow, and everybody denying it, is very bad
:23:00. > :23:03.for politics. Jeremy Hunt is by and large a man who everybody regarded
:23:03. > :23:07.as having messed up the most important job he had, which was the
:23:07. > :23:12.Sky TV bid, whether you think he should have resigned or not, he
:23:12. > :23:16.certainly didn't do that well, what has happened to him? He has been
:23:16. > :23:22.promoted, to apparently try to make the doctors love him. When an
:23:22. > :23:27.article today said he was without doubt the most loathed Secretary of
:23:27. > :23:33.State for Culture, Media and Sport. This is not like a reshuffle
:23:33. > :23:37.deserving merit. He was subject to the vote of censure in parliament?
:23:37. > :23:39.The Liberal Democrats took the view they couldn't support him. You are
:23:40. > :23:45.happy to see him in charge of the health service? These choices are
:23:45. > :23:49.made by the Prime Minister. And remember, that the central purpose
:23:49. > :23:55.of this coalition Government is to seek to restore the economic
:23:55. > :24:00.stability of this country. That is right at the heart of what we do.
:24:00. > :24:03.It is also why, if I may say so, there are things in the coalition
:24:03. > :24:07.agreement that I wouldn't be happy about, which you have to accept to
:24:07. > :24:13.achieve the central trust. brings us to the matter of David
:24:13. > :24:16.Laws. He was a man suspended from parliament parliament for how he
:24:16. > :24:19.behaved, is he fit to be in Government? If you have read the
:24:19. > :24:24.report which the commissioner wrote in relation to that. You will have
:24:24. > :24:28.seen that he went to great lengths to point out that what David Laws
:24:28. > :24:34.had done, was in an effort to conceal his sexuality, he could
:24:34. > :24:37.have, if he had chosen to use his own house in the constituency, as
:24:38. > :24:41.the basis for his claims, he could have claimed very much more. The
:24:41. > :24:46.point is, that David Laws has a very substantial contribution to
:24:46. > :24:50.make. He is universally regarded in the House of Commons. He is a fit
:24:50. > :24:54.man to be in Government? He's universally regarded on all sites
:24:54. > :24:57.of the House. He's a fit man to be in Government? Yes, otherwise the
:24:57. > :25:00.Prime Minister wouldn't have appointed him, and Nick Clegg would
:25:00. > :25:04.not have endorsed that appointment. If you are talking about merit. You
:25:04. > :25:09.need to look at Chris Grayling's appointment, it was because he did
:25:09. > :25:16.such a great job of Work and Pensions, he's now promoted. We
:25:16. > :25:24.have Maria Miller and also Theresa Villiers, were moated into cabinet.
:25:24. > :25:29.-- promoted into cabinet. She has to decide in the next few weeks on
:25:29. > :25:32.the Leveson Inquiry, will she stand up to David Cameron on that?
:25:32. > :25:36.think she's very capable. Theresa Villiers has gone to Northern
:25:36. > :25:40.Ireland this afternoon and it is rioting this afternoon. That is
:25:40. > :25:43.hardly anything to do with her? What on earth is the Prime Minister
:25:43. > :25:47.doing giving these responsible jobs to people at this particular time.
:25:47. > :25:50.You mean she's incompetent, because there is riots going on in Northern
:25:50. > :25:55.Ireland, a woman can't go, is that what you are saying, you wouldn't
:25:55. > :26:03.say it about a man? I would say it about anyone that inexperienced to
:26:03. > :26:13.do a job, irrespective of their sex. You didn't say that about mow moul
:26:13. > :26:14.
:26:14. > :26:18.lamb. She -- Mo Mowlam. She spent years making relationships.
:26:18. > :26:27.didn't know it at the start. Maybe the Prime Minister is not thinking
:26:27. > :26:30.about the quality of Government, instead what he's thinking about is
:26:30. > :26:34.the management of my group within parliament. Good Government is
:26:34. > :26:39.suffering as a result. We will leave it there. No-one goes hungry
:26:39. > :26:42.in the 21st century in Britain. We live in a welfare state, don't we.
:26:42. > :26:47.Ever since the great reforming Government of 1945 promised to slay
:26:47. > :26:50.the five great giants of idleness, ignorance, disease, squalor and
:26:50. > :26:53.want, that has been the working assumption. In the last five years
:26:53. > :27:02.there has been an explosion in the number of people being fed, not
:27:02. > :27:05.from earnings or benefits, but from using food banks. In 2007, the
:27:05. > :27:10.Trussle Trust fed nearly 40,000 people. By the year of the election
:27:10. > :27:15.they were feeding 60,000, a figure that doubled. This year and next
:27:15. > :27:25.they are expecting to feed 200,000. We set out to find out why, in a
:27:25. > :27:37.
:27:37. > :27:41.land of plenty so many are going hungry. They say you can tell a
:27:41. > :27:48.poor area by how many chicken joints it has. By that definition,
:27:48. > :27:53.Coventryry has its fair share of poverty. This is a typical Midlands
:27:53. > :27:57.industrial city, with 306,000, and by the City Council's own
:27:57. > :28:00.statistics, 69,000 of them living on the breadline. As Britain has
:28:00. > :28:07.dipped, again, into recession, professionals dealing with poverty
:28:07. > :28:14.have noticed the rise of something new. I have watched people sitting
:28:14. > :28:18.down cooking oven-baked chips and mayonaise, and that is their main
:28:18. > :28:23.evening meal, with children and with health problems. In some ways
:28:23. > :28:27.this recession has been kinder than expected, unemployment never topped
:28:27. > :28:30.three million, house repossessions never became catastrophic. It is
:28:30. > :28:39.all the more strange that across Britain we are now seeing something
:28:39. > :28:43.we haven't really seen since the 1930s. That is hunger.
:28:43. > :28:50.This is what it looks like when somebody else gets to pick the food
:28:50. > :28:54.your family is going to eat. It is a food bank in Coventry. The
:28:54. > :28:59.Trussell Trust, the charity that runs these places, is opening two
:28:59. > :29:03.or three new ones every week. All the food is donated, and it is of
:29:03. > :29:11.high quality, but demand is high too. And growing, and I have come
:29:11. > :29:16.here to find out why. This family, including a four-week-old baby,
:29:16. > :29:20.have been referred here for an emergency food donation. What has
:29:20. > :29:26.brought you here? Benefit changes. I had my daughter move in with me,
:29:26. > :29:30.move back from her father's, and I had a new baby. So because they had
:29:30. > :29:34.to be added on to my claim, it caused it to fail. Too many
:29:34. > :29:39.children living in my house, and it's not working out on the
:29:39. > :29:42.computer. So no benefits are coming into the house? I'm getting my
:29:42. > :29:49.child benefit. Child Tax Credit for the rest of the children, but not
:29:49. > :29:53.two. What does that mean in terms of food? It means that I am not
:29:53. > :29:59.having the money to go shopping, I can just cover my bills. If we went
:29:59. > :30:02.back to your house right now, what food would be in the cupboard?
:30:03. > :30:08.bit of rice and some bread. I haven't anything else in, at all.
:30:08. > :30:12.This, it turns out, is not unusual. On top of people whose claims fail
:30:12. > :30:16.accidentally, there has been massive spike in the number of
:30:16. > :30:19.people getting their jobseeker's allowance stopped temporarily, or
:30:19. > :30:24.sanctioned, as it is called. 167,000 people, in the first three
:30:24. > :30:29.months of this year. Go to DWP and asking for crisis loans is landing
:30:30. > :30:34.myself in more debt. I think I'm hitting the �900 mark of being in
:30:34. > :30:37.debt, because my benefits keep being stopped and started, and just
:30:38. > :30:42.not knowing where I am with benefits at all. What you get here
:30:42. > :30:46.is food to feed a family for three days, and since it opened, the
:30:46. > :30:52.Coventry centre has fed 10,000 people that way. For just under
:30:52. > :30:56.half of them, it is this problem of benefit disruption that has left
:30:56. > :31:01.them hungry. We do some generic statistical analysis, we know 43%
:31:01. > :31:04.of people who present at food bank, it is down to a benefit delay, a
:31:04. > :31:08.benefit change or crisis loan refused. It is reasonable to expect
:31:08. > :31:11.people to apply for a certain number of jobs per week, yes. But
:31:11. > :31:15.if you fail that particular test, and you have a sanction, the
:31:15. > :31:19.sanction can be there for weeks. Now the logic flaw in that is
:31:19. > :31:23.exactly where do you expect people to go and find money during that
:31:23. > :31:28.period, if job seekers is supposed to be the point of last resort in
:31:29. > :31:32.terms of income. Often people's circumstances change, sometimes
:31:32. > :31:36.they just don't obey the rules of the benefit system? All of that
:31:37. > :31:46.happens as well. And you then find them walking through the door
:31:47. > :31:51.
:31:51. > :31:58.hungry. We become the backstop of the benefit system. Foodbanks don't
:31:58. > :32:02.feed everyone, they aim to address the root cause of the crisis.
:32:02. > :32:05.But if hatch the people at foodbanks have fall -- half the
:32:05. > :32:09.people at foodbanks have fallen through the benefits system, what
:32:09. > :32:15.about the other half. Why are there thousands of people with jobs in
:32:15. > :32:21.this one city who can't feed themselves? We have seen the queue
:32:21. > :32:26.out the front increase in the last year, 18 months. We have about 15
:32:26. > :32:31.people queuing from 8.00am in the morning, by the time we open at
:32:31. > :32:34.9.15, there are are 30 people waiting to be seen. That happens on
:32:34. > :32:38.a day-by-day basis. The Citizens Advice Bureau is one of the
:32:38. > :32:43.agencies in Coventry that can refer people to the foodbank. They have
:32:43. > :32:47.identified the other big cause of food poverty, debt. Unfortunately,
:32:47. > :32:51.and horrifically, it is often the food is the thing that is having to
:32:51. > :32:55.give when people are trying to pay creditors. They are using high-
:32:55. > :32:58.interest lenders, pay-day loans, to try to get through their week.
:32:58. > :33:08.Sometimes it is the food, sometimes it is the heating. There is a
:33:08. > :33:12.
:33:12. > :33:16.saying, we have people either heat or eat.
:33:16. > :33:21.Expensive credit, for poor people, is the new boom industry in Britain,
:33:21. > :33:23.as well as the pawnbrokers and pay day loan shops, there are also
:33:24. > :33:29.doorstep lender. The interest rates are massive, many people struggle
:33:29. > :33:37.to pay them, but the question is, why do they end up prioritising
:33:37. > :33:42.debt over food. I'm going to advise the one of our clients, who because
:33:42. > :33:44.of health problems...Mary Shine is a case worker at the Citizens
:33:44. > :33:48.Advice Bureau, she and her colleagues are referring about ten
:33:48. > :33:54.people a week to the foodbank. And where debt is involved, there is
:33:54. > :33:58.often a doorstep lender who has first call on the money. Doorstep
:33:58. > :34:03.lending is always about preying on people who are unable to access
:34:03. > :34:08.high street banks, get a loan, a cheap loan, or an overdraft, or a
:34:08. > :34:14.credit card. They also have this thing where they befriend them. So
:34:14. > :34:18.it is not the man from the credit company, it is, my friend Tom, who
:34:18. > :34:23.has been coming for years. So if you are faced with having to say to
:34:23. > :34:27.Tom, I can't pay my debts this week, it feels bad? It feels bad, they
:34:27. > :34:31.feel they are letting Tom down. He will say he will lose his comiing,
:34:31. > :34:35.and you are letting me down -- commission, and you are letting me
:34:35. > :34:39.down, and they are guilt tripped into making the payments. What is
:34:39. > :34:45.the result for families? They are paying �20 a week to the doorstep
:34:45. > :34:49.lender out of their food bill. is this priority given to debt
:34:49. > :34:56.repayment, not just doorstep debt, but council tax and rent arrears,
:34:56. > :35:01.that explains why even people in work end up at the foodbank. Even
:35:01. > :35:07.now there is not a lot of people know I use foodbank. To have to
:35:07. > :35:12.admit to myself I'm not cope, I'm in debt management, and I need help
:35:12. > :35:17.with food to feed my family. It is not nice. Christina Thomas has a
:35:17. > :35:21.job, but came to the foodbank after an acute family crisis forced her
:35:21. > :35:25.on to Statutory Sick Pay, and her debts went out of control. I was
:35:25. > :35:29.trying to help my oldest son while he was in financial difficulty, and
:35:29. > :35:33.obviously taking care of my teenage boy as well. Even though I was
:35:33. > :35:41.working part-time, it was like after rent, council tax, all the
:35:41. > :35:45.household bills, there was never enough for the rest. It became more
:35:45. > :35:53.of about debt all the time, rather than having any surplus from my
:35:53. > :35:56.wages. What would happen if this place didn't exist, in some places
:35:56. > :36:03.they don't exist. What would happen? Things become really hard
:36:03. > :36:12.for me. Really, really hard for me. It is something I don't
:36:12. > :36:16.particularly want to think about, because things are hard already. It
:36:16. > :36:24.took things to get that bad for me to pick up the phone in the first
:36:24. > :36:34.place, and meet someone like Gavin. And say, you know, I'm not coping.
:36:34. > :36:34.
:36:34. > :36:40.I'm trying, but I'm not coping. These are two stories from one
:36:40. > :36:49.foodbank. There are 250 foodbanks across the UK. And last year they
:36:49. > :36:54.fed 130,000 people. The welfare system is supposed to be a safety
:36:54. > :36:58.net, but on the evidence we found, about half of all the hunger being
:36:58. > :37:03.officially dealt with, is caused by people, not falling through it, but
:37:03. > :37:10.being forced through it by the system itself. The real safety net
:37:10. > :37:19.is now churches, and charity. As benefits are cut, and rules
:37:19. > :37:23.tightened. The foodbanks expect to be seeing a lot more people soon.
:37:23. > :37:29.Chris Mould is director of the Trussell Trust, which runs more
:37:29. > :37:33.than 250 foodbanks, like the one you saw in that film. The Labour
:37:33. > :37:36.front bencher, Stella Creasy, has campaigned for tougher regulation
:37:36. > :37:40.of consumer credit, and the speechwriter for David Cameron when
:37:40. > :37:46.leader of the opposition, now running a crime reduction charity.
:37:46. > :37:49.Just for the avoidance of doubt, we are not talking here about soup
:37:49. > :37:54.kitchens and other facilities for homeless people? We are talking
:37:54. > :37:58.about feeding people, 85% of whom have got somewhere to live and are
:37:58. > :38:03.not homeless. We say they are on the brink of homelessness sometimes,
:38:03. > :38:07.and the foodbank is the reason why they are not rendered homelessness.
:38:07. > :38:11.We agree it is a mark of failure, in some way, that people have to
:38:11. > :38:15.resort to a foodbank. The question is, what is the failure? To me this
:38:15. > :38:20.is a story of responsibility. The failure of responsibility, and the
:38:20. > :38:27.fulfilment of responsibility. There has been over the best part of a
:38:27. > :38:30.generation, building up a public sector debt by the Government. And
:38:30. > :38:33.at the same time huge failure of responsibility from banks, lenders
:38:34. > :38:37.and households building up unsustainable levels of private
:38:37. > :38:41.debt. That is a failure of responsibility. There is some
:38:41. > :38:46.public policy failures about the administration of benefits. What we
:38:46. > :38:49.see here, and a tremendous stories, communities, churches, and
:38:49. > :38:52.charities, communities spontaneously responding to this
:38:52. > :38:59.terrible need, and rising up to meet the need in their own
:38:59. > :39:03.communities. In many ways this is a positive thing. I -- I don't want
:39:03. > :39:07.to misrepresent you, it is a terrible thing and a tragedy, but
:39:07. > :39:12.it is a positive response to a horrible situation? It is that
:39:12. > :39:17.communities are responding so well. I don't know what planet you are
:39:17. > :39:20.living on, one of the reasons I started campaigning on pay-day
:39:20. > :39:24.lenders is because I could see the damage they were doing to my local
:39:24. > :39:29.community. These are people not borrowing for luxuries, but basic
:39:29. > :39:35.essentials, food. You are saying households are rung up debts they
:39:35. > :39:38.shouldn't. When I see people in Waltham stow who have too much
:39:38. > :39:42.month at the end of their money, it is for transport costs and getting
:39:43. > :39:45.to work and rent. It is inexcusable that people are failing to act on
:39:45. > :39:49.the cost of consumer credit in this country, because you can see the
:39:49. > :39:52.damage it is doing. There is an equal issue that people on low
:39:52. > :39:58.incomes have been suffering a flatlining for years. People who
:39:58. > :40:02.have to depend on tax credits and benefits, have not had those raised
:40:02. > :40:06.anything like sufficient to deal with food price rises. Oxfam have
:40:06. > :40:10.done their own research and tell us in the last five years food prices
:40:10. > :40:15.have gone up 30.5%. This isn't about people becoming more
:40:15. > :40:19.irresponsible than they used to be. This is about a larger proportion
:40:19. > :40:23.of society finding it harder than they ever have done before, to make
:40:24. > :40:28.ends meet. That's what I think is wrong. We, as a charity, are
:40:28. > :40:34.committed to launching food banks in every community, because we
:40:34. > :40:39.think communities should be present, active and involved in supporting
:40:39. > :40:43.those in crisis. It is a failure of the welfare state that there are so
:40:43. > :40:47.many people in cry he is, we have to be realist, there will be people
:40:47. > :40:51.with their pensions stolen, people with probbleplts with a fire in a
:40:51. > :40:56.house -- problems with a fire in a house, people with a problem on
:40:56. > :40:59.losing their jobs, company going bust, and a hiatus while we sort
:40:59. > :41:05.out whether or not they can get jobseeker's allowance and so on.
:41:05. > :41:09.There is those things. But this is a volume increase that is not
:41:09. > :41:13.acceptable. We spend �150 billion a year in this country on welfare.
:41:13. > :41:19.You are saying it is not enough? I'm not saying that the amount that
:41:19. > :41:22.is spent is not enough. What I'm saying is that we face reality.
:41:22. > :41:25.There are a large number and growing number of people in the
:41:25. > :41:29.country who do not have enough money to get to the end of the week
:41:29. > :41:34.and being supported by foodbanks. The question is, if you take a
:41:34. > :41:40.broader look at tax-payers' money and how it is spent, if they are
:41:40. > :41:44.not fed and lose their house, and a family broken up, the costs to the
:41:44. > :41:48.taxpayer, consequential is much higher. Net numbers did a survey of
:41:48. > :41:53.people struggling to feed -- net mums did a survey about people
:41:53. > :41:56.struggling to feed their children, a third of those revealed they were
:41:56. > :41:59.receiving mental health treatment in the anxiety of being poor. That
:41:59. > :42:06.costs a lot more of putting the situation right in the first place,
:42:06. > :42:11.with the proper policy on welfare. What do you say to someone who says
:42:11. > :42:14.there is a problem with the benefits system, bureaucracies are
:42:14. > :42:18.inefficient at times, and there have to be penalties for people who
:42:18. > :42:21.don't seek work, and there comes a time when people are crucially
:42:21. > :42:27.short of funds. There is no alternative to this sort of
:42:27. > :42:31.operation, is there? No, and I don't think we should object to the
:42:31. > :42:35.fact that it has sprung up. It is the consequence of policy?
:42:35. > :42:42.problem with policy is we have a vastly centralised welfare state,
:42:42. > :42:44.whereby we attempt to implement universal rules, with no respect or
:42:44. > :42:48.recognition of the very difficult particular circumstances that
:42:48. > :42:53.families find themselves in. I think it is not surprising we get
:42:53. > :42:58.into these terrible bureaucratic tangles at the centre of Government
:42:58. > :43:02.W a department responsible for administering millions of people's
:43:02. > :43:05.personal incomes from a single office in the centre of London. We
:43:05. > :43:09.need to localise welfare, so local communities are more responsible
:43:09. > :43:12.for the way welfare is handed out. I think there does need to be a
:43:12. > :43:15.greater role for independent organisations like Chris's, who
:43:15. > :43:18.actually have proper relationships with the people they are working
:43:18. > :43:24.with, they know the people they are handing out food to. They can
:43:24. > :43:28.decide when that is needed and when it isn't. They can begin to treat
:43:28. > :43:32.benefit claimants as human beings rather than statistics. But to
:43:32. > :43:38.employ sanctions upon people, to say, you will not get your benefit,
:43:38. > :43:41.if you don't do X or Y, that is not to treat people as human beings?
:43:41. > :43:45.is, it is to treat them as responsible human beings who have
:43:45. > :43:48.to make choices for themselves like everybody else. There is ultimately
:43:48. > :43:51.a limit to the amount of money the taxpayer has to spend on people. It
:43:52. > :43:56.is good and right that the community, society as a whole,
:43:56. > :44:00.takes responsibility for the distuet and the poor. I'm sorry, I
:44:00. > :44:02.represent one of the communities you are talking about. The people I
:44:02. > :44:06.represent saying they are not responsible is hog wash. You are
:44:06. > :44:10.talking about treating the symptoms not the cause. You believe in
:44:10. > :44:14.sanctions too? I run jobs fairs in my local community and hundreds of
:44:14. > :44:17.people turn up. They want good, decent well paid jobs, and a
:44:17. > :44:20.Government creative in helping them. Why isn't the Government doing
:44:20. > :44:23.something about the cost of energy, it is going up, we could do
:44:23. > :44:27.something about the cartels running the industries, it could cut one
:44:27. > :44:31.bill coming in this winter. Not something about the cost of credit
:44:31. > :44:36.and transport. It is not just about the welfare state, Danny, good
:44:36. > :44:40.Government is creative, intelligent and works with local communities to
:44:40. > :44:45.tackle the problems. Could you help us on the policies, where do you
:44:45. > :44:49.get your money from? From the public and grant-makers. No money
:44:49. > :44:53.from Government at all. Can people come to you indefinitely? No they
:44:53. > :44:57.can't. We offer at least three days of nutritionally balanced food, and
:44:57. > :45:00.we will help people for up to two weeks and there about. There is a
:45:00. > :45:03.straight forward reason for that. We are in support of health
:45:03. > :45:08.visitors, social workers and others, we want to collaberate, and make
:45:08. > :45:11.sure that the Government services actually pick up the long-term
:45:11. > :45:17.responsibility. That is a good thing? Absolutely, the things I do
:45:17. > :45:23.in my local community are about partnership. People in Waltham stow
:45:23. > :45:28.don't just need us to work together to get rid of the worst choices of
:45:28. > :45:32.the Government. If people are out of work they are not paying taxes,
:45:32. > :45:37.the amount of money to invest is going down too. It is false economy.
:45:37. > :45:42.When we know what works in tackling the illegal loan sharks. We all
:45:42. > :45:46.want more jobs and the growth that will create that jobs. We all want
:45:46. > :45:49.clever Government that reduces the cost of living. Tell them to get on
:45:49. > :45:52.with it. They are trying hard. There is a huge problem with the
:45:52. > :45:55.welfare culture, you talk about your community, the community I
:45:55. > :45:59.work with is people involved in crime or at risk of getting
:45:59. > :46:02.involved in crime. They are the products of generations of
:46:02. > :46:06.welfareism, it is a culture, they are not expected to work for a
:46:06. > :46:13.living, they should be waiting on Government to sort out all their
:46:13. > :46:17.problems, it is enovated the spir the of too many inner city families.
:46:18. > :46:22.There is huge Welfare Bills. There has to be an end. The Government
:46:22. > :46:25.has to reduce the spending for economic reasons, but more
:46:25. > :46:30.important is the moral responsibility and has to bring
:46:30. > :46:34.back spirit. I'm as tough as anyone with the people who don't take
:46:34. > :46:37.chances offered, why does the Government cancel the Future Jobs
:46:37. > :46:43.Fund. You are making a broader political point. The reality has to
:46:43. > :46:47.be more than half the people, half of 200,000 people that we help this
:46:47. > :46:50.coming year will be in work. In households that are working. We
:46:50. > :46:55.have a serious problem in the country with inequality, with lowk
:46:55. > :46:58.in its and rising prices. -- low incomes, with rising prices, rents
:46:58. > :47:02.going up. We heard on the film all the pressures people have to face.
:47:02. > :47:06.The one bit that gives is the food that they put on the table. Often
:47:06. > :47:11.it is the food that parents put on the table for themselves. They
:47:11. > :47:16.prioritise the children, but even then, we end up feeding 45,000
:47:16. > :47:21.children last year. Tomorrow save the children will launch a
:47:21. > :47:25.fundraising campaign for British youngsters for the -- Save The
:47:25. > :47:30.Children will launch a fundraising campaign for British youngsters for
:47:30. > :47:33.the first time ever. We will hear from children affected by the
:47:33. > :47:38.recession tomorrow. We are struggling to pay the bills. My dad
:47:38. > :47:45.works two jobs, but I don't really get to see him much. When he's off