:00:13. > :00:19.$:/STARTFEED. A weekend in the German countryside for David
:00:19. > :00:24.Cameron and Angela Merkel. It look like happy families for the cameras.
:00:24. > :00:26.But behind closed doors, can he sweet talk her into supporting a
:00:26. > :00:31.new European relationship for Britain. We have gathered a troop
:00:31. > :00:36.of economists to try to guess who is saying what to whom?
:00:36. > :00:40.Is your house just over 120ms from the proposed high-speed rail route,
:00:40. > :00:44.you might have a very big problem. At the moment they won't even
:00:44. > :00:51.compensate us full stop, or give us the value of the property, let
:00:51. > :00:56.alone all the extra needs that I would need to enable me to move.
:00:56. > :01:00.It's a good job Top Of The Pops was scrapped, as the chart rise of this
:01:01. > :01:10.song, offensive to the memory of Margaret Thatcher, a headache for
:01:11. > :01:14.
:01:14. > :01:18.the BBC, or just plain daft. Good evening, Angela Merkel is
:01:18. > :01:21.playing mine hostess to the Camerons tonight. The German
:01:21. > :01:27.Chancellor has already said that she personally wants Britain to be
:01:27. > :01:31.an important part and active member of the EU. The talks will be over
:01:31. > :01:36.EU reforms and how close or far apart they are over change. At the
:01:36. > :01:40.same time as if to highlight the economic difficulty at the heart of
:01:40. > :01:45.the European product, in Dublin finance ministers have extended
:01:45. > :01:54.Ireland and Portugal's loan over ten years, and a bail out has been
:01:54. > :01:58.agreed for Cyprus, ready to be agreed by member states.
:01:58. > :02:04.Wish you were here? For the Prime Minister and his wife it is a long
:02:04. > :02:10.weekend in an 18th century cast. Think Chequers German style. A
:02:10. > :02:16.country retreat in outside Berlin, with not just other halves invited,
:02:16. > :02:21.but the Cameron children on their way too. The gist of it is this,
:02:21. > :02:25."we like you Dave and there are at least some things we can agree on".
:02:25. > :02:29.Swap a German castle for Dublin Castle and another EU meeting about
:02:29. > :02:35.the latest country, Cyprus, to provoke a blast of the jitters
:02:35. > :02:40.about the future of the single currency. Finance ministers agreed
:02:40. > :02:45.a 10 billion euro rescue package to stop Cyprus sliding into bankruptcy.
:02:45. > :02:50.But the island and the savers will have to stump up a lot more than
:02:50. > :02:57.originally thought. 13 billion euros. The Cypriot problem is not
:02:57. > :03:00.even near to be solved. There are huge questions around the bail out,
:03:00. > :03:04.no-one actually knows by how much the Cypriot economy will contract
:03:04. > :03:09.by, will shrink by, therefore it is very difficult to work out a bail
:03:09. > :03:15.out package, a support package, when everything is so uncertain.
:03:15. > :03:18.This Cyprus story will run for a very long time. It is not just
:03:18. > :03:24.Cyprus causing grief either. Next stop Slovenia, where a new
:03:24. > :03:28.Government is dealing with an old problem, the banks. Everyone is now
:03:28. > :03:33.looking for the next Cyprus, who is next in line for a eurozone bail
:03:33. > :03:38.out. The strongest contender is probably Slovenia. That is stuck
:03:38. > :03:42.with a braanking sector that -- banking sector that hold as lot of
:03:42. > :03:46.toxic debt that it can't get off its books. The Government there is
:03:46. > :03:52.not rich enough to bail out its own banking system. We are looking at
:03:52. > :03:57.another bail out at some point for Slovenia. Probably a limited one.
:03:57. > :04:05.Beyond the eurozones stumbles from one crisis to the another remains
:04:05. > :04:08.the UK's question about the EU. For so long it is seen by the EU as the
:04:08. > :04:11.embarrassing uncle at the Christmas party, plonked on the sofa,
:04:11. > :04:16.grumbling away and irritating others in the European family. On
:04:16. > :04:19.top of a generation's worth of scepticism amongst its European
:04:19. > :04:22.opposite numbers, we can Adam I don't know's veto wielded in
:04:22. > :04:28.Brussels a then that speech in January spelling out his plans to
:04:28. > :04:31.renegotiate the UK's terms of membership of the EU, and put it to
:04:31. > :04:38.a referendum by 2017. What is on the table for discussion this
:04:38. > :04:43.weekend? David Cameron wants to persuade his partners that Europe
:04:43. > :04:46.needs to be reformed and treaty change is the way to do this. For
:04:46. > :04:50.Angela Merkel, she wants to keep Britain engaged and to try ensure
:04:50. > :04:55.Britain doesn't leave. But the German Government isn't at all keen
:04:55. > :04:58.on having treaty change in the short-term. It is unpalpable to the
:04:58. > :05:01.German Government because they think we will have problems
:05:01. > :05:05.ratfying it, and several member states might lose that. And they
:05:05. > :05:09.realise if they open up the treaty the Brits will try it blackmail
:05:09. > :05:12.everyone to get the concessions they want. But, some point out, the
:05:12. > :05:17.gap between the German and British perspective on all things European
:05:17. > :05:25.Union isn't that wide and is bridgeable. Once that is all those
:05:25. > :05:30.hellos and guttentags are out of the way. When the British and
:05:30. > :05:33.German politicians sit down and talk, they spend 30, 40 minutes to
:05:34. > :05:37.look at the language to use and how to communicate with each other past
:05:37. > :05:41.the ideology. When it comes to the policy discussion they tend to
:05:41. > :05:46.agree. For example, on the need to strengthen national parliaments,
:05:46. > :05:50.make the EU more democratic, on the need to cut down and reform the
:05:50. > :05:55.European Union budget. So, the music's jolly, the scenery is
:05:55. > :05:59.pretty, but do you still wish you were here? This Englishman's home
:05:59. > :06:03.this weekend is a German castle, but Europe's direction is no walk
:06:03. > :06:13.in the park. Just how significant is the
:06:13. > :06:18.
:06:18. > :06:23.weekend's visit, to help me unpick I'm joined by my guests.
:06:23. > :06:27.First of all, is this going to be really more of a public consumption,
:06:27. > :06:33.or will there be any move on whether or not Angela Merkel is
:06:33. > :06:39.even considering acceding to David Cameron's notion that he should
:06:39. > :06:43.have a referendum on treaty change? It is a horse that has bolted. The
:06:43. > :06:48.referendum has been promised. if he doesn't get what he wants on
:06:48. > :06:51.treaty change? The Germans are not going to push for treaty change,
:06:51. > :06:55.they won't push for it because they have realised that other than them
:06:55. > :06:58.and David Cameron nobody wants treaty change. They won't push 25
:06:58. > :07:02.other European countries in a direction that they don't want to
:07:02. > :07:06.go. It is a risky strategy. Even if they started going down that road,
:07:06. > :07:10.it would take years and years to reach an agreement. Do you agree
:07:10. > :07:13.with the analysis in the film that if Britain went for that referendum
:07:13. > :07:18.other countries may well follow. That is a problem for Angela
:07:18. > :07:24.Merkel? I think that's absolutely the case. It is the domino effect,
:07:24. > :07:28.and whether or not we can sustain that sort of cohesive view in
:07:28. > :07:31.Europe, I don't think so. Megan, is this really just for public
:07:31. > :07:36.consumption this weekend, to show that on a personal level at least
:07:36. > :07:41.they can do business, they like each other? Yeah, I think so, I
:07:41. > :07:44.don't expect anything to come out of this weekend's talks, especially
:07:44. > :07:47.given a German election in September. There won't be any
:07:47. > :07:51.movement on this whatsoever. David Cameron wants repatriation of power
:07:51. > :07:53.towards the nations, Merkel doesn't want that at all. She want a much
:07:53. > :07:57.bigger role for the European Commission in helping to bail out
:07:57. > :08:01.all the weaker countries. On the whole question about the general
:08:01. > :08:03.elections, is that the big issue in town this year, do you think?
:08:04. > :08:07.certainly a much bigger issue than what David Cameron wants at the
:08:07. > :08:14.moment. At the moment all eyes are on German, what's going to happen
:08:15. > :08:18.there, to some extent there is unrealistic expectations, how much
:08:18. > :08:22.does the German election matter for Europe. Whoever is in charge after
:08:23. > :08:30.September will follow the line that Merkel is on now. Where is Merkel's
:08:30. > :08:35.biggest problems, is it the right in the CD? She herself doesn't have
:08:35. > :08:40.the problem, her approval ratings are stellar. Her party is slightly
:08:40. > :08:44.less popular. Her opponent from the social democrats is nowhere to be
:08:44. > :08:48.seen. She has no coalition party and she won't have a majority, she
:08:48. > :08:52.needs another partner to form a pact. We are in situation where the
:08:52. > :08:57.finance ministers in Dublin have approved the lengthening of the
:08:57. > :09:01.loan to Ireland and Portugal, and the bail out for Cyprus. With
:09:01. > :09:07.Slovenia coming up the back. This is exacerbating the whole problem,
:09:07. > :09:12.the politic between north and south in the euro isn't it? Absolutely,
:09:12. > :09:16.to some degree this whole trip this weekend is a bit a distraction of
:09:16. > :09:21.what is going on. Merkel wants to focus, at the end of the day, on
:09:21. > :09:27.the crisis in Europe. I don't really think David Cameron coming
:09:27. > :09:32.along is her priority at the moment. I think. What about, I mean the
:09:32. > :09:36.Cyprus bail out is not popular in Germany, we can talk about Slovenia
:09:36. > :09:43.in a minute. It is not, but Merkel's approval ratings have shot
:09:43. > :09:48.up off the back of it. The CDP and the Greens were demanding Germany
:09:48. > :09:54.didn't bail out Russian oligarchs, that wasn't the case but that was a
:09:54. > :09:59.bail out. She demanded a depositer pay out. And her approval has
:09:59. > :10:03.improved. Because she was able to that. What about the Slovenia
:10:03. > :10:07.situation, there is a different approach to this than Cyprus?
:10:07. > :10:12.is a different approach to all other European countries than to
:10:12. > :10:15.Cyprus. Cyprus is not a very popular case, not only in Germany
:10:15. > :10:19.but many other European countries. Even before the banking trouble,
:10:19. > :10:22.they weren't particularly good at making friends in Europe. Now they
:10:22. > :10:27.manage to have a business model that is obviously unsustainable.
:10:27. > :10:32.They are a very special case. Slovenia is a stable, nice-looking
:10:32. > :10:38.country, for the banking sector it failed to privatise it fully, they
:10:38. > :10:41.have a lot of work to do. But there is very different political
:10:41. > :10:45.attitudes towards Slovenia than Cyprus. Do you think Cyprus should
:10:45. > :10:49.have gone? That is one ogs, I think it is still an option for Cyprus to
:10:49. > :10:53.try to negotiate its way out of the eurozone. It would be painful,
:10:53. > :10:57.certainly, but it might be less painful than the bail out they
:10:57. > :11:02.signed up to. Your view on that? Absolutely, at the moment the best
:11:02. > :11:07.option for Cyprus is to basically exit the eurozone, issue its own
:11:07. > :11:11.currency and hopefully find a little bit of stability. If you
:11:11. > :11:16.look at the extension of Portugal, obviously and Ireland, you have
:11:16. > :11:22.Slovenia, problems in it low and Spain, ultimately, this is the --
:11:22. > :11:25.Italy and Spain, but ultimately in 10-15 years, will there be a
:11:25. > :11:30.separate north-south, with the south dropping out of the euro, and
:11:30. > :11:37.it being a northern currency? could have a, it is totally viable
:11:37. > :11:40.that you end up issuing a sort of second tier euro for the periphery
:11:40. > :11:46.states. But I don't think it is the ideal option. I think we are now
:11:46. > :11:51.committed to this project, and the ideal solution is one where we
:11:51. > :11:55.stick together. However, Cyprus is a special case. If any eurozone
:11:55. > :11:59.country has the possibility to leave it is Cyprus. I would also
:11:59. > :12:04.point out that eurozone membership is a political decision, and the
:12:04. > :12:09.europroject is, to a large degree, a political project. If the weaker
:12:09. > :12:13.countries do decide to abandon the euro, I'm not sure if the political
:12:13. > :12:17.will will be there for them to band together in a separate state but
:12:17. > :12:21.they will go back to their currencies. These currencies would
:12:21. > :12:24.have zero credibility. Reintroduced central banks would find it hard to
:12:24. > :12:31.maintain price stability, to keep the currencies from plunging, they
:12:31. > :12:37.would have to massively default on their debt. It would be mayhem and
:12:37. > :12:43.painful. It would be mayhem for Germany? It would be, because they
:12:43. > :12:48.are for political reasons committed to this thing, it needs a stable
:12:48. > :12:51.neighbourhood to export to, and they need these countries to stop a
:12:51. > :12:56.reintroduced damp mark from becoming strong. There are those
:12:56. > :13:00.saying it is Germany that has to leave the euro? Cyprus has a chance
:13:00. > :13:03.and it is not the case that you would have complete chaos, because
:13:03. > :13:07.Cyprus, of all the countries, it does actually have a viable economy
:13:07. > :13:11.on its own. Yes, you would have. has a lot of gas. It has a lot of
:13:11. > :13:15.gas and tourism. Even if it issued its own currency and we saw it fall
:13:15. > :13:20.in value, that would be very attractive to tourists. It would be
:13:20. > :13:27.volatile, don't get me wrong. We would recover much more quickly.
:13:27. > :13:30.what we are talking about, for the next three or four years yet utter
:13:30. > :13:33.volatility throughout the European states, no settling down of any
:13:33. > :13:38.country? We will jump from crisis to crisis as we have for the past
:13:38. > :13:42.couple of years. As far as the idea of eurozone exits is concerned,
:13:42. > :13:45.choreography is key. A unilateral default and exit worst option
:13:45. > :13:49.possible for any of these weaker countries. But a negotiated exit,
:13:49. > :13:53.with bridge financing and balance of payments support from the IMF
:13:53. > :13:58.and other troika members, that is a better option. Thank you very much.
:13:58. > :14:01.I have to stop you there. On Wednesday's Newsnight we
:14:01. > :14:05.reported from Minova in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where
:14:05. > :14:15.on one night of November last year Government soldiers committed mass
:14:15. > :14:34.
:14:34. > :14:39.rape and other terrible violent Well today 12 senior officers in
:14:39. > :14:44.the military were suspended. The film maker Fiona Lloyd-Davies who
:14:44. > :14:46.secured confessions from that soldier and others is here. What is
:14:46. > :14:49.the significance of the suspensions? It is very significant
:14:49. > :14:53.that it was senior officers this time. It sends a very strong
:14:53. > :14:58.message to all the army that it is not just the foot soldiers who may
:14:58. > :15:00.be punished. In your film the foot soldiers all said that the command
:15:00. > :15:03.to rape came from the senior officers that makes it very
:15:03. > :15:08.important? That's right. The BBC film, the film you made went out on
:15:08. > :15:13.Newsnight on Wednesday, it then went out on BBC World on Thursday,
:15:13. > :15:15.that is not the only pressure that is been put on, but it is part of
:15:15. > :15:19.the pressure? There is a sense that the Congalese authorities don't
:15:19. > :15:27.want to be criticised publicly, and there is also a gathering momentum
:15:27. > :15:33.at the moment about what is going on in Congo, about sexual violence,
:15:33. > :15:35.politically diplomatically, even in celebrity services, the UN Special
:15:35. > :15:40.Representative on Sexual Violence has returned from Congo and met
:15:40. > :15:45.with the President. The G8 meeting this week have been talking about
:15:45. > :15:50.stopping sexual violence. William Hague has presented his unit
:15:50. > :15:54.preventing sexual violence as well. You have also been following the
:15:54. > :15:58.rapes for the last ten years. And do you think the women have any
:15:58. > :16:01.expectation that it is really going to change? It has been very low in
:16:01. > :16:05.the past. They have risked their lives to testify in the few trials
:16:06. > :16:10.that have taken place, only to see perpetrators walk free. This time
:16:10. > :16:13.there is such a real commitment for this trial to go forward, I know
:16:13. > :16:19.women on the ground have already agreed to be witnesses.
:16:19. > :16:24.Thank you very much. The Government says that when the high-speed two
:16:24. > :16:28.rail line is built, those living next to the 250 mile an hour train
:16:28. > :16:32.will actually welcome their fast new neighbour and worry what they
:16:32. > :16:36.were so worried about. In the meantime residents complain their
:16:36. > :16:38.houses are only sellable at a huge discount. The Government already in
:16:38. > :16:48.trouble over the Compensation Scheme, after a judge ruled last
:16:48. > :16:49.
:16:49. > :16:54.month its consultation was so unfair as to be illegal. There are
:16:54. > :16:57.thousands of stories on the HS2 line, we could look anywhere for
:16:57. > :17:01.people with something to say. The building of the first stage of the
:17:01. > :17:06.line, between London and Birmingham, won't start until 2017, and isn't
:17:06. > :17:13.due to finish until 2026, its impact is already keenly felt. Take
:17:13. > :17:17.the village of Great Missenden in Buckinghamshire, this pub has
:17:17. > :17:21.closed, it is exactly where the line will run through. If you have
:17:21. > :17:24.to live in an area where HS2 is coming, this could be the best
:17:24. > :17:30.situation to be in. The compensation in these circumstances
:17:30. > :17:33.is most generous. I have come to meet the organisers of the HS2
:17:33. > :17:36.Action Alliance, they took the Government to judicial review and
:17:36. > :17:42.won. The judge agreed the consultation on compensation had
:17:42. > :17:46.been so unfair as to be unlawful. The property market is completely
:17:46. > :17:51.stymied, it has just frozen, what you will see is lots of houses for
:17:51. > :17:56.sale and nobody wants to buy them. You have extreme problems in that
:17:56. > :18:00.people want to get on, they want to move on with their lives, and yet
:18:00. > :18:03.for two decades they are going to be frozen out. How much
:18:03. > :18:07.compensation you get depends on how far you live from the centre of the
:18:07. > :18:13.line, within 60ms, you are compulsory purchased, you get the
:18:13. > :18:17.value of what the property would have been before HS2 plus a 10%
:18:17. > :18:22.bonus that can't exceed �47,000, you get your moving costs as well.
:18:22. > :18:25.If you live between 60-100ms from the line in a rural area you
:18:25. > :18:29.qualify for the voluntary purchase scheme. You ask the Government to
:18:29. > :18:33.pay the unblighted market value of your home. But you are not eligible
:18:33. > :18:36.for any of the other extra payments. However, if you live more than
:18:37. > :18:40.120ms from the centre of the track, you will have to prove extreme
:18:40. > :18:44.hardship, like divorce or loss of your job, that means you have to
:18:44. > :18:53.move but you can't sell because of HS2, prove that and you will get
:18:53. > :18:57.the unblighted market value. Hello. Hello. If, like Derek and
:18:57. > :19:02.Margo, you want to downsize or upsize, or just relocate, there is
:19:02. > :19:06.nothing on offer. They are just two yards outside the voluntary
:19:06. > :19:10.compensation zone. What is the consequence of those two yards for
:19:10. > :19:14.you and your lives? There is a thing called "blight" if you come
:19:14. > :19:19.to sell the house. At the moment I would say that whatever the price
:19:19. > :19:24.the house would have been, had they not put the line up, you will lose
:19:24. > :19:29.between 20-30% of the price of the house, if you can sell it. If you
:19:29. > :19:34.can sell it. Who will be interested in a thundering great train coming
:19:34. > :19:38.along. Every so many minutes. People might buy it if the price
:19:38. > :19:43.was right? We want to move to a place where the price is right for
:19:43. > :19:47.us, we are not going to be able to. Estate agents have told the couple
:19:47. > :19:52.they would want �1,500 even to market the home, which they have
:19:52. > :19:57.also been told is unsellable. Their only other option wait until the
:19:57. > :20:04.line has been operating for a year, and then put in a claim for the
:20:04. > :20:10.impact caused, by then Derek will be nearly 90.
:20:10. > :20:17.We have come to the Cock and Rabbit club, very close to where the line
:20:17. > :20:22.will go. This is where they film Mid-Summer Murders. One of the
:20:22. > :20:26.interesting features of high-speed rail means the cost to communities
:20:26. > :20:30.like this is far greater than what other infrastructure projects. That
:20:30. > :20:35.has an impact on compensation. Let me show you what I mean. If we
:20:35. > :20:41.imagine a normal infrastructure project, like a road or railway. It
:20:41. > :20:46.goes like that. There is your end point and there is your start point.
:20:46. > :20:51.But what will happen is you have junctions or stations along the way.
:20:51. > :20:56.So, the people who live in this sort of area, like that, will have
:20:56. > :20:59.the cost of being near the line or the road, but they will also have
:20:59. > :21:04.the benefit of having access to this fantastic new infrastructure.
:21:04. > :21:09.So the cost on them, or the impact on their house prices, for example,
:21:09. > :21:14.will be some what mitigated. But, with high-speed rail, don't forget,
:21:14. > :21:19.none of these exist. It goes from London to Birmingham, bypassing
:21:19. > :21:27.this place about here, and it has absolutely no benefit to the people
:21:27. > :21:31.who live here. Meanwhile, a short stroll from the derelict pub I met
:21:31. > :21:37.Adam. Hello Adam. He spent years adapting this barn to provide the
:21:37. > :21:41.perfect home for him and his family. This kind of adaptation doesn't
:21:42. > :21:45.come cheap. You are close, because the pub is going. How much closer
:21:45. > :21:51.does the line come to the pub? line goes right through the middle
:21:51. > :21:58.of that pub, and comes closer to us at an angle across into this wood
:21:58. > :22:01.over here. Add dumb only has one fully functioning lung and says his
:22:01. > :22:04.sometimes fragile health wouldn't allow him to live close to the
:22:04. > :22:09.building work. As soon as the diggers arrive, he says he has to
:22:09. > :22:11.leave. If my neighbours have to leave, they might not want to, if
:22:11. > :22:16.they got the value of their property they might not want to
:22:16. > :22:19.move. In my case there is extra issues, I couldn't just buy another
:22:19. > :22:25.property tomorrow and move into it. I would have to find a place, I
:22:25. > :22:29.would have to find builders and get doors widened, new bathrooms put in,
:22:29. > :22:33.accessible bathrooms and kitchens. Probably ramps and raising ground
:22:33. > :22:38.level, all this costs a phenomenal amount of money. We have put our
:22:38. > :22:41.life savings into this property to make it the only place in the world
:22:41. > :22:46.where I'm 100% independent. There is nowhere else on this earth where
:22:46. > :22:53.I can be like that. You wouldn't get the money back if you did
:22:53. > :22:58.qualify for compensation here? The final stop on my journey is
:22:58. > :23:05.back at London, in the Department of Transport, where I have an
:23:05. > :23:09.appointment to see the minister in charge of HS2. Hello. We have seen
:23:09. > :23:14.from the evidence of high-speed 1, that has gone through the heart of
:23:14. > :23:19.Kent up to London that despite all the rhetoric and the campaigning
:23:19. > :23:24.and the complaining back in the late 1980s, when the project was
:23:24. > :23:28.beginning to be developed, that actually when the project is and
:23:28. > :23:35.running, those problems have not materialised. But the first phase
:23:35. > :23:39.of the railway won't even be built until 2026, that is 13 years away,
:23:39. > :23:44.that is a long time to wait and not sell your house for what you think
:23:44. > :23:47.is the market value. Even if the problems that you fear don't
:23:48. > :23:53.materialise? There will be some people who may feel nervous, I
:23:53. > :23:58.think unjustifiably, about the impact. But if there is a need for
:23:58. > :24:04.them to have to sell their house, under the conditions of the
:24:04. > :24:08.hardship scheme, then they will be provided with that help, at an
:24:08. > :24:12.unblighted property price. And what about Adam Thomas and his family,
:24:12. > :24:15.even if they do qualify for the hardship scheme, they fear they
:24:15. > :24:20.won't get the money they would need it adapt another property. The
:24:20. > :24:24.minister says he can't comment on individual cases, but. That
:24:24. > :24:30.situation would also afly to any other individual who lived miles
:24:30. > :24:36.and miles away from a major project like high-speed 2. Given that a lot
:24:36. > :24:41.of people invest a lot of money in their properties in different ways
:24:41. > :24:45.and they don't necessarily then Israelise the money they have
:24:45. > :24:47.invested in the im-- realise the money they have invested in the
:24:47. > :24:57.improvements of the property whether for health or aesthetic
:24:57. > :25:02.
:25:02. > :25:06.reasons, that is part of the market and buying and selling a house.
:25:06. > :25:09.Back in the Chiltons, the cheers ring a little hollow, there is a
:25:09. > :25:12.creeping fear there is nothing they can do to stop the line. The best
:25:12. > :25:22.they can hope for is improved compensation. We have to tell them
:25:22. > :25:23.
:25:23. > :25:25.what we want and we want full and fair compensation. Since we
:25:25. > :25:29.recorded our interview with the Transport Minister we have received
:25:29. > :25:32.a statement from his department. "we know that people's personal
:25:32. > :25:36.situations sometimes bring unique challenges that we can't fully
:25:36. > :25:41.anticipate through the design of a property Compensation Scheme. We
:25:41. > :25:45.aim to be flexible in responding to that small minority of cases.
:25:45. > :25:50.HS2Ltd is ready and willing to talk to anyone in such a situation to
:25:50. > :25:59.discuss how it might help." Historians may come to refer to it
:25:59. > :26:04.all as a right ding dong about a song, the BBC won't play Ding Dong
:26:04. > :26:07.The Witch Is Dead in full on the radio 1 Chart Show, they will show
:26:07. > :26:12.a clip of a news reporter explaining a sudden popularity,
:26:12. > :26:16.that a campaign had been launched to send it to number one after
:26:16. > :26:22.Margaret Thatcher's death. It is thought to be number three. It has
:26:22. > :26:30.provoked comment and controversy, and a rival song I'm In Love with
:26:30. > :26:32.Margaret Thatcher. And changes in the way music is bought and
:26:32. > :26:37.consumed mean does it matter any more.
:26:37. > :26:42.As a long from The Wizard of Oz climbs the charities, friends of
:26:42. > :26:46.Dorothy are hard to find at the BBC T will play the song in the chart
:26:46. > :26:54.rundown, the controller of Radio One said, but only for five seconds
:26:54. > :26:59.or so. The track will be put into context by a reporter. I believe
:26:59. > :27:03.that you have got a situation where a group of people in society have
:27:03. > :27:12.decided that they will campaign by using this track and trying to get
:27:12. > :27:16.this track into the chart. I find it disrespectful. But I also I'm
:27:16. > :27:25.very conscious if I ban it I will get myself into issues of freedom
:27:25. > :27:33.of speech and censorship. Once upon time this was the record
:27:33. > :27:37.the BBC didn't want to play. God Save The Queen by The Sex Pistols.
:27:37. > :27:45.Some say it reached number one in the summer of 1977, unofficially.
:27:45. > :27:50.If you believe the rumour around at the time, God Save The Queen was
:27:50. > :27:55.said to have sold enough record to be number one in the week of the
:27:55. > :28:00.Jubilee. But when the official charts came out Rod Stewart was
:28:00. > :28:04.still number one. More recently unlikely Christmas dittties have
:28:04. > :28:09.been propelled to the top of the charts in a bid to keep out
:28:09. > :28:15.offerings from X Factor contestants. We have been here several times
:28:15. > :28:20.before. From Simon koul's anger at the affrontry of -- Cowell's anger
:28:20. > :28:26.from the affrontry of people who might not want to grant him his God
:28:26. > :28:32.given right to have the Christmas number one, to Relax from Frankie
:28:32. > :28:36.Goes To Hollywood, the outrage is at the very reliant agent for
:28:36. > :28:41.getting something to number one. The decline of vinyl threatened to
:28:41. > :28:48.leave the singles' market in a spin. I know, it's late. But apparently
:28:48. > :28:52.all is well. The rise of iTunes and other download sites in the early
:28:52. > :28:58.noughties has created a real boom for the singles' market. It rescued
:28:58. > :29:04.the market and it is in a healthy state that last year was the most
:29:04. > :29:09.singles sold in a single year on record. Because it is so easy?
:29:09. > :29:13.the digital download era has created an ecosystem where you can
:29:13. > :29:17.buy a symbol on impulse, but the rise of digital download has walked
:29:17. > :29:23.hand in hand with the rise of social media. Not only can you buy
:29:23. > :29:31.it on impulse but as a community as a statement en masse. That is what
:29:31. > :29:36.we are seeing this week. It turns out that the top 40 isn't as old
:29:36. > :29:45.hat as the Music Hall, but remains every bit as urgent as it was in
:29:45. > :29:49.the dear departed days of Gary Davies. So says one gold-fingered
:29:49. > :29:54.pop Svengali. This is all part of the excitement of the charts, when
:29:54. > :29:57.people can just do their thing, and make a record that nobody wants to
:29:57. > :30:01.get to number one. That is the excitement what technology has
:30:01. > :30:04.allowed us to do is see people's choice better and quicker and
:30:04. > :30:08.probably a little more accurate than it has been in the past. You
:30:08. > :30:12.know for the last 30 years the record companies have been hyping
:30:12. > :30:22.the charts, or accused of hyping the charts, you can't do that now
:30:22. > :30:22.
:30:22. > :30:26.when you are down to millions of downloads. Not possible. These are
:30:27. > :30:34.historical cultural documents, almost. Aren't you pushing it a bit
:30:34. > :30:42.there. It's three-minute disposable pop, most of of it? It is three-
:30:42. > :30:48.minute disposable pop. But these are cultural mile stones from the
:30:48. > :30:57.1970s to last week. These are important cultural moments.
:30:57. > :31:01.# Let's get Ready to Rumble. In other news Ant and Dec
:31:01. > :31:05.unexpectedly went to number one with this cultural moment. As far