0:00:07 > 0:00:10United States have tightened security on public buildings after
0:00:10 > 0:00:14three explosions tonight in Boston. Local police are saying that two
0:00:14 > 0:00:21people have been killed, and 23 wounded. We expect more information
0:00:21 > 0:00:24shortly. They happened as runners in the
0:00:24 > 0:00:30Boston Marathon were approaching the finishing line. They happened
0:00:30 > 0:00:36in full public view. But there are, as yet, few details further, and of
0:00:36 > 0:00:43course no forensic evidence. In Britain it doesn't feel that much
0:00:43 > 0:00:48like spring. That's one lamb too many. Not if you are a farmer
0:00:48 > 0:00:53salvaging what remains of your livestock. What or who is to blame
0:00:53 > 0:00:58for their tenuous grip on economic survival? This last three weeks you
0:00:58 > 0:01:05know when you are in the lambing shed in the middle of the night, I
0:01:05 > 0:01:08have thought what the hellam I doing -- hell am I doing here?
0:01:08 > 0:01:13will ask if the industry has much of a future the way it is currently
0:01:13 > 0:01:21run. How has multicultural allowed the
0:01:21 > 0:01:27bigotry of the Indian caste system be brought into Britain. When he
0:01:27 > 0:01:35called you untow touchable what does that mean?Th Is happening here,
0:01:35 > 0:01:38which I never expected. The facts are few, the fastest runners were
0:01:38 > 0:01:44well home and the stragglers still well out on the course when there
0:01:44 > 0:01:48were two explosions near the finish line of the marathon in Boston, and
0:01:48 > 0:01:52one other at the JFK Library. A short while ago Boston Police said
0:01:53 > 0:01:58three people had been killed and 23 injured. Organisers of the London
0:01:58 > 0:02:01Marathon next Sunday say they are reviewing security here, and across
0:02:01 > 0:02:04America there are already intensified precautions in place.
0:02:04 > 0:02:11But there are as yet no details of the cause of the blast. Just before
0:02:11 > 0:02:17coming on air the commissioner of Boston Police, Ed Davies spoke to
0:02:17 > 0:02:21police. At 2.50pm today there were simultaneous explosions that
0:02:21 > 0:02:28occurred along the route of the Boston Marathon near the finish
0:02:28 > 0:02:32line. These explosions occurred 50- 100 yards apart. Each scene
0:02:32 > 0:02:37resulted in multiple casualties. We have at this point in time
0:02:37 > 0:02:42determined that there has been a third incident that has occurred.
0:02:42 > 0:02:46There was an explosion that occurred at the JFK Library. So
0:02:46 > 0:02:50this is very much an on going event at this point in time. We are not
0:02:50 > 0:02:53certain that these incidents are related, we are treating them as if
0:02:53 > 0:02:57they are. We are recommending people that they stay home. That if
0:02:57 > 0:03:01they are in hotels in the I can't remember that they return to their
0:03:01 > 0:03:05rooms and that they don't go any place and congregate in large crowd.
0:03:05 > 0:03:10We want to make sure we completely stablise the situation.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14Let's speak to the BBC's North America editor in Washington.
0:03:14 > 0:03:19Is there anything else you can add to that police summary? I think it
0:03:19 > 0:03:24is obvious that they are taking it extremely seriously. Although they
0:03:24 > 0:03:27are not using the words "terrorism" or "bomb" at the moment, they are
0:03:27 > 0:03:34pointing that way. Treating it like that. The marathon organisers do
0:03:34 > 0:03:38use the word "bomb attacks", so do many other people around. The
0:03:38 > 0:03:42police have not only told people not to congregate, but they have
0:03:42 > 0:03:45shut down the cellphone network. They can be used to trigger
0:03:45 > 0:03:49explosion, the airport has been shut down. This may be out of an
0:03:50 > 0:03:54excess of caution. We don't definitely know that this was a
0:03:54 > 0:03:57deliberate attack. But certainly the police are treating it as it
0:03:57 > 0:04:00were, and there are also signs in other cities that security is being
0:04:00 > 0:04:05tightened again. It may just be a precaution.
0:04:05 > 0:04:13Something is happening in New York too isn't it? Yes, they have moved
0:04:13 > 0:04:16in security to the toll roads and things like that, along the bridges.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20At the White House they have shut off Pennsylvania Avenue in front of
0:04:20 > 0:04:24it and moved people back from that. There are signs this is being taken
0:04:24 > 0:04:29very seriously as you might expect. One of the things that says is not
0:04:29 > 0:04:34so much they know what this is, but that since 9/11 there have been
0:04:34 > 0:04:38continuous reviews of how the Homeland Security behave, and that
0:04:38 > 0:04:44things have swung into action, looking at the pictures coming from
0:04:44 > 0:04:48the marathon itself, it seemed that people were very well prepared to
0:04:48 > 0:04:52act and to go into action to help the injured and maybe you would
0:04:52 > 0:04:57expect that at a big event. Clearly there were plans that looked as
0:04:57 > 0:05:04though they worked. The other thing, I think I would say is if this does
0:05:04 > 0:05:08turn out to be terrorism, don't immediately jump to conclusions
0:05:08 > 0:05:11about who is responsible. It is more than rumour, it is chatter
0:05:11 > 0:05:17from within the Intelligence Services that suggests it might not
0:05:17 > 0:05:25be what one's minds perhaps leaps to of Islamic radicals, but that it
0:05:25 > 0:05:30could be home-grown extremists who have attacked in the past within
0:05:30 > 0:05:33America. One recalls the Oklahoma bomb which was attributed first of
0:05:33 > 0:05:37all to Islamic terrorists and turned out to be home-grown? Yes,
0:05:37 > 0:05:42and there is reports that happened on, and I'm saying reports, I
0:05:42 > 0:05:47haven't had time to check it out, that happened also on patriot day,
0:05:47 > 0:05:52which is today, the first Monday in April. That might have a special
0:05:52 > 0:05:56significance. We know that the Homeland Security have, ever since
0:05:56 > 0:06:01President Obama was elected, within on potential alert for an incident
0:06:01 > 0:06:05that came from the right, as well as their continual alert about
0:06:05 > 0:06:12potential Islamic terrorism. What is this general state of security
0:06:12 > 0:06:17alert in the United States at present? It is fairly high at
0:06:17 > 0:06:21airports. You know, the security process at airports very rigorous.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25You have to go through, as you do in Britain, as you do all over the
0:06:25 > 0:06:30world a very tight procedure. But you don't actually, but obviously
0:06:30 > 0:06:35the police are armed here. You don't see the level of policing
0:06:36 > 0:06:39that I have seen at Heathrow or in Paris train stations. That isn't
0:06:39 > 0:06:48quite as visible here always. Thank you very much indeed. Let's
0:06:48 > 0:06:53speak now to Frank Gaffney, also in Washington, he's President of the
0:06:53 > 0:06:59Centre for Security Policy there. This has come completely out of the
0:06:59 > 0:07:05blue there has it? Are you hearing me? In the sense that nobody, I'm
0:07:05 > 0:07:08hearing you loud and clear, can you hear me. Hello. Yes, please go
0:07:08 > 0:07:13ahead? I'm hearing you. What I was saying is that I think it is out of
0:07:13 > 0:07:17the blue in the sense that this specific attack at the specific
0:07:17 > 0:07:21moment in time at the specific place was, as far as I know, not
0:07:21 > 0:07:28something we had any warning about. But we have been on notice for a
0:07:28 > 0:07:33long time that America is a target. I think particularly the kinds of
0:07:33 > 0:07:38congregations of people, like this one, make it an obvious place that
0:07:39 > 0:07:41security has to be heightened. I fear that we have become rather
0:07:41 > 0:07:46complacent in recent years that there haven't been more of these
0:07:46 > 0:07:50kinds of episodes to keep our guard up, as it should be. We must be
0:07:50 > 0:07:59cautious, of course, we don't even know that it was a bombing at this
0:07:59 > 0:08:03point, do we? The police are fairly clear on that now. Yes, and I
0:08:03 > 0:08:10believe they have found several other devices that were not
0:08:10 > 0:08:17observation ploded. They presume -- -- that were not exploded. Prejidor
0:08:17 > 0:08:21sumeably have a good read on that. I don't think we are giving the
0:08:21 > 0:08:25attack the right look at the moment. It was at minimum a terrorist
0:08:25 > 0:08:28attack, while the exact perpetrator hasn't been identified as far as I
0:08:28 > 0:08:32can tell they certainly wanted to do harm to a lot of Americans. And
0:08:32 > 0:08:36for that matter others. This is an international event in Boston the
0:08:36 > 0:08:42marathon. By definition anybody who puts a bomb into a public place
0:08:42 > 0:08:49like that is a terrorist of some kind, is he not? Is there any
0:08:49 > 0:08:53suggestion as to what quarter it might have come from? Well, you do
0:08:53 > 0:08:57find people who are simply psychopaths, as opposed to
0:08:57 > 0:09:02terrorists, it is a distinction I don't particular cotton to myself.
0:09:02 > 0:09:06There has been one report out of the New York Post that a Saudi
0:09:06 > 0:09:10national is under custody in a hospital room. I don't know whether
0:09:10 > 0:09:15to credit that or not, and I don't know that anybody else has reported
0:09:16 > 0:09:23that. For the moment we have to wait for the investigation to find
0:09:23 > 0:09:28what it can about the provenance of this particular attack. You said a
0:09:28 > 0:09:33moment ago that America was on notice of possible danger. Why is
0:09:33 > 0:09:39that? Is it to do with events in the Middle East or what? I think we
0:09:39 > 0:09:44have been on notice since well before 9/11 that we are the object
0:09:44 > 0:09:48of the enmity of individuals who adhere to a doctrine they call
0:09:48 > 0:09:51sariia. We are the impediment to its imposition worldwide. I think
0:09:51 > 0:09:56they have sought, both interestingly enough through
0:09:56 > 0:10:00violent means, and through pre- violent means, to impose it on us,
0:10:00 > 0:10:05as I believe they are in the UK and other places. They are not the only
0:10:05 > 0:10:09people who wish us ill. They are not the only people who do us harm.
0:10:10 > 0:10:17They are a particularly serious threat. I think particular low
0:10:17 > 0:10:23because we have failed to attend at all really to the non-violent or
0:10:23 > 0:10:25pre-violent aspect of what the Muslim Brotherhood calls
0:10:25 > 0:10:30civilisation Jihad. We will see what evidence emerges. Thank you
0:10:30 > 0:10:34very much. There was a unilateral declaration of spring today, and a
0:10:34 > 0:10:37collective sigh of relief. The idea of Britain, what we imagine this
0:10:37 > 0:10:41country to be is deeply invested in the countryside. For the men and
0:10:41 > 0:10:45women who live there and try to make it yield them a living though,
0:10:45 > 0:10:50the promise of spring is something else. British farming is in crisis.
0:10:50 > 0:10:57It is not an original headline but what is new is this isn't a crisis
0:10:57 > 0:11:01of the kind we have had to get used to in sheep or dairy farming or
0:11:01 > 0:11:05cereal growing, it is everywhere. The sap is rising, the birds are
0:11:05 > 0:11:09singing and the lambs are gambling, and the farmers are moaning. This
0:11:09 > 0:11:15time they do have something to moan about, agriculture is in decline.
0:11:15 > 0:11:20In 1970 farming made up 2.8% of Britain's economy, today it is just
0:11:20 > 0:11:250.7%. All farms are expected to earn less this year than last. The
0:11:25 > 0:11:30average English cereal farmer might see his income fall by 11% on last
0:11:30 > 0:11:33year. A lowland livestock farmer can expect an income fall of
0:11:33 > 0:11:40perhaps 44% this year, and hill farm, where the average profit is
0:11:40 > 0:11:44said to have been a mere �6,000, could see their income fall by over
0:11:44 > 0:11:49half. The weather has been no friend, last month snowstorms are
0:11:49 > 0:11:53said to have killed 50,000 animals, while crop farmers have also been
0:11:54 > 0:11:57affected. Potato planting for this year are predicted to be a seventh
0:11:57 > 0:12:02of what they were last year. The UK's expected to import more than
0:12:02 > 0:12:05twice the quantity of grain shipped here last year. Retailers are
0:12:05 > 0:12:11already predicting the bad weather will drive up food prices. Ten
0:12:11 > 0:12:16years ago the average weekly shop on food and non-alcoholic drinks
0:12:16 > 0:12:21was �43.50, the most recent figures show that now costs just short of
0:12:21 > 0:12:26�55 a week. Nothing in the garden is coming up rosy. We have been
0:12:26 > 0:12:36hearing the stories of three farmers, and you might some of the
0:12:36 > 0:12:40
0:12:40 > 0:12:50images in her report upsetting. I have farmed here all my life, I
0:12:50 > 0:12:50
0:12:50 > 0:12:54have never seen weather like it during April. Jack Jones family
0:12:54 > 0:13:00have been farming here on the Welsh border on the foot hill of the
0:13:00 > 0:13:05mountains since the 17th century. think there is about 15 sheep
0:13:05 > 0:13:11missing down along here. We get a lot of losses with something like
0:13:11 > 0:13:14this, it is just well pretty horrific. Every day Jack's been
0:13:14 > 0:13:21finding dead sheep. They were caught in a blizzard just as they
0:13:21 > 0:13:31were starting to lamb. So far he has found more than 70ewes and 200-
0:13:31 > 0:13:34
0:13:34 > 0:13:38lambs. Nature is a cruel thing. The Buzzcocks have had her eyes now. --
0:13:38 > 0:13:41the buzzards have her eyes now, luckily she only had one lamb, that
0:13:41 > 0:13:46is one lamb too many. Now we will come back later on and pick that
0:13:46 > 0:13:53one up. Nature has been unforgiving for
0:13:53 > 0:13:58much of the last year. Before the snow there was the rain. The grass
0:13:58 > 0:14:04didn't grow properly and so this flock's spring diet consists of
0:14:04 > 0:14:07winter feed, grain, which is costing Jack �500 a day. All in all
0:14:07 > 0:14:12it has been a horrendous 12 month, we can't really blame the
0:14:12 > 0:14:16politicians for the weather, but the feed costs and things like that,
0:14:16 > 0:14:21fuel costs are crippling. Really crippling. You are hoping to be
0:14:21 > 0:14:25able to pass this farm on to your grandson, if he decides, he's very
0:14:25 > 0:14:28little, if he decides to be a farmer? Yeah, yeah.Are you worried
0:14:28 > 0:14:34about what you are going to be passing on? The way farming is
0:14:34 > 0:14:38going, we have to produce more and more to keep exactly where we are.
0:14:38 > 0:14:43My grandfather could survive here on perhaps 100 sheep, I'm keeping
0:14:43 > 0:14:49over 2,000 to be in exactly the same place, really.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53I love farming and it is not a job it is a way of life. Now this last
0:14:53 > 0:15:01three weeks you know when you are in the lambing shed in the middle
0:15:01 > 0:15:06of the night, I have thought what the hell am I doing here, really.
0:15:06 > 0:15:11In Warwickshire Jim Meadows is wondering why he bothered to plant
0:15:11 > 0:15:14wheat. He has very little to show for it. With the wet weather and
0:15:14 > 0:15:19slug there is nothing there now. There is just the odd little bit of
0:15:19 > 0:15:23wheat. This is the odd little bit of wheat, most of this is blood
0:15:23 > 0:15:29grass. It is a weed. In a good year where would the wheat be now?
0:15:29 > 0:15:34way up my Wellingtons, this time of year, nice, lush crop looking
0:15:34 > 0:15:38really well. There is nothing there as you can see, just weeds.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42Jimmy's pitiful crop is hardly an isolated case, yields are so low in
0:15:42 > 0:15:50Britain that this year it is expected from going to be a net
0:15:50 > 0:15:57exporter of wheat to a net importer. We are producing something of two-
0:15:57 > 0:16:03and-a-half to 3 ,000 tonnes of wheat each other. This year what we
0:16:03 > 0:16:12planted is not going. We will only produce between 200-300 tonne of
0:16:12 > 0:16:18wheat, 10% of what we normally do. You need to watch Jill Blythe with
0:16:18 > 0:16:21her dairy herd to understand why she gave up her job in banking to
0:16:21 > 0:16:25run the family's farm in Shropshire, she didn't doing it for the money.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29By now the cows should be out to pasture, but the fields are sodden,
0:16:29 > 0:16:36so instead they are inside eating up thousands of pound worth of feed,
0:16:36 > 0:16:41and with it any profit. Do you think for many dairy farmers, dairy
0:16:41 > 0:16:48farming doesn't make an awful lot of financial sense? I'm sure that's
0:16:48 > 0:16:56true. I'm sure that's true. Why? I'm a very positive person, but the
0:16:56 > 0:16:59last six months I have seen us financially come to our knees.
0:16:59 > 0:17:04Because I'm a positive person I think there is still a future in it,
0:17:04 > 0:17:07and we will keep going to the last pound to go into the future. I'm
0:17:07 > 0:17:10sure there are a lot of people who have had enough of this and they
0:17:10 > 0:17:17still want to continue with it. is not just the weather, it is also
0:17:17 > 0:17:21the price of milk. It costs about 32p a litre to produce milk, we are
0:17:21 > 0:17:24being paid 28p, do the math, it doesn't stack up. It has to come
0:17:24 > 0:17:29from somewhere, in our case it comes from mine and my father
0:17:29 > 0:17:36assuages. We don't pay ourselves. How much are you earning an hour?
0:17:36 > 0:17:41�1.35. I have worked it out. Until ten years ago it was Jill's father
0:17:41 > 0:17:46Clifford who ran the farm. He now spend his time giving support to
0:17:46 > 0:17:51farmers who can't cope. In the late 80s and 90s we had a terrible
0:17:51 > 0:18:01situation where a lot of farmers were takinging their own lives. We
0:18:01 > 0:18:01
0:18:02 > 0:18:04don't want to go back to that state again. I got a call yesterday and I
0:18:04 > 0:18:08have to see a farmer today, I believe he has livestock and he
0:18:08 > 0:18:13can't afford to pay the feed to feed them because he can't loose
0:18:13 > 0:18:20them out on the grass today. That is just me. This is going to go
0:18:20 > 0:18:25right through the country surely. Strenuous, often lonely with
0:18:26 > 0:18:29unsociable hours. Farming is a strange job. So why do it? When you
0:18:29 > 0:18:34have lambs, you have a responsibility to produce food.
0:18:34 > 0:18:38With recent press on foreign food being imported into this country
0:18:38 > 0:18:43that isn't safe and has got no provenance, I think it is more
0:18:43 > 0:18:48important now than ever for British farmers to produce good-quality
0:18:48 > 0:18:53food for our British people. talk about this now is Roger Saul,
0:18:53 > 0:19:03the founder of the British designer label, Mulberry, who now owns the
0:19:03 > 0:19:05
0:19:05 > 0:19:15farm and food brand Sharp and Park. And the author of Panic On A Plate,
0:19:15 > 0:19:19
0:19:19 > 0:19:22and a member of the benevolent fund. How bad is it? Very bad, there is
0:19:22 > 0:19:26that feeling among some parts of the public that farmers are wealthy
0:19:26 > 0:19:31and you never see poor farmers, but believe me, one in four farmers is
0:19:31 > 0:19:36actually living on or below the poverty line. That's according to a
0:19:36 > 0:19:40Government statistic in 2010. job is to basically help out
0:19:40 > 0:19:43farmers in financial distress? That's right we have been around as
0:19:43 > 0:19:50a charity since 1860, what we are seeing today is really a sea change.
0:19:50 > 0:19:55People have been in need for many, many years. What has changed in our
0:19:56 > 0:20:01part of the world, the helping world, is it is working farmers who
0:20:01 > 0:20:06are coming to us now, not just the elderly and or disabled farmers we
0:20:06 > 0:20:10have helped in the past. What do you think is is the root cause of
0:20:11 > 0:20:15the problem? When I bought our farm, we are now mixed economy, it was
0:20:15 > 0:20:19dairy. It was already going bust. Effectively clearly as we came in
0:20:20 > 0:20:23we thought this is not an industry to make easy money out of. We tried
0:20:23 > 0:20:30to base it around a product we could take into a brand, a brand
0:20:30 > 0:20:33that went from farm, to food, to retail. That has worked. If I look
0:20:33 > 0:20:38at the enterprises, the wholesale and the farming, my farming is
0:20:38 > 0:20:42making a loss. If I took advice today I would put solar panelling
0:20:42 > 0:20:46in and that is the only way to sustain a profit in the farm.
0:20:46 > 0:20:50without supsidies we really would be in trouble, wouldn't we? I think
0:20:50 > 0:20:53the logic of the situation is to say an awful lot of smal small
0:20:53 > 0:20:57farmers need to get out of the business -- small farmers need to
0:20:57 > 0:21:00get out of the business. It is a hard thing to say when you see the
0:21:00 > 0:21:03hardship people are going through. We have seen it in other industries
0:21:04 > 0:21:10in past decades, mines and steel industries closing. There is a
0:21:10 > 0:21:14point at which you have to say for small farmers just not economic any
0:21:14 > 0:21:19more, and throwing more supsidies at the situation or more advantages
0:21:19 > 0:21:23would be a mistake. That is an obvious lesson, if you can't cut it
0:21:23 > 0:21:26get out of it? Well said but think of it from another point of view.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29You will find most large farmers are losing money at the same time
0:21:29 > 0:21:35at the moment. They may be able to hold over, but take the economic
0:21:35 > 0:21:38situation where the banks are not lending. The term "overdraft" has
0:21:38 > 0:21:42gone, and today there isn't cashflow to help a small or big
0:21:42 > 0:21:48farmer go forward. If the Government could ease cash, and you
0:21:48 > 0:21:51have to remember subsidies come from Europe, the Common
0:21:51 > 0:21:55Agricultural Policy. All Europeans get the same, if you say British
0:21:55 > 0:21:59farmers shouldn't have it you get an uneven playing field. Some
0:21:59 > 0:22:02people sitting at home will think they have to make their own living
0:22:02 > 0:22:06without expecting people to stick their hands in their October pocket
0:22:06 > 0:22:13to give them money, why not farm -- in their pocket to give them money,
0:22:13 > 0:22:18why not farmers? They want fair price. They also say they don't
0:22:18 > 0:22:21want subsidies? That is true, on the vts you saw you have people
0:22:21 > 0:22:24passionate about their produefplts we all need food. One of the things
0:22:24 > 0:22:28the public has to understand is we have come a long way in
0:22:28 > 0:22:31understanding the growth, if you like, of an industry, so we
0:22:31 > 0:22:35understand the transfer from food in the field to food on our plate.
0:22:35 > 0:22:43We have to think more and more about the people whom we all depend
0:22:43 > 0:22:48on for our own survival, farmers. Why doesn't the market work here?
0:22:48 > 0:22:51We have a number of ways working in the market, subsidies is one of
0:22:51 > 0:22:57them. Also barriers on scale, in the last year or two we have seen
0:22:57 > 0:23:00two very large farms, a pig and dairy farm refused planning
0:23:00 > 0:23:07permission. That is the trajectory of every previous industry you look
0:23:07 > 0:23:11at, is it goes big, gets economies of scale and improves productivity.
0:23:11 > 0:23:16There seems to be barriers to that as well. In terms it of Biotech we
0:23:16 > 0:23:20should see more of that used to improve yields 0 so the prices can
0:23:20 > 0:23:23come down and the -- yields, so the prices are come down. I suppose if
0:23:23 > 0:23:32you are a farmer you have always had to deal with the weather hadn't
0:23:32 > 0:23:38you? Yeah, but going back to the fashion business, farming margins
0:23:38 > 0:23:44are atroious -- atrocious. I came out of handbag where is I make 50-
0:23:44 > 0:23:4960%, farming is less than 5%. 90% or more of land is farmment we have
0:23:49 > 0:23:52destroyed manufacture anything this country, it got push the abroad, I
0:23:52 > 0:23:56suffered from that as Mulberry. We have had a crack at destroying
0:23:56 > 0:23:59farming, we are not doing good on banking, there is a whole area of
0:23:59 > 0:24:03what are we as a country. We have to seriously think about our
0:24:03 > 0:24:07environment, the communities, farming is at the centre of rural
0:24:07 > 0:24:12community. If that goes or turns into big sheds, you have got a very
0:24:12 > 0:24:17different picture there. What is a tourist coming to see? Is it coming
0:24:17 > 0:24:20to see a big shed of cows or cities? We are worrying about what
0:24:20 > 0:24:24tourists see? If you think about what farmers do, they care for a
0:24:24 > 0:24:28managed environment. They get paid for it? Not all farmers get paid
0:24:28 > 0:24:36for it. If you also look at in fact the price we pay for food, these
0:24:36 > 0:24:41days it is estimated that less than 11% of the household budget is
0:24:41 > 0:24:46spent on food. We spend more on transport. 16% of household budgets
0:24:46 > 0:24:51on transport. We spend more on food. If farmers can get people to pay
0:24:51 > 0:24:55for more food, good luck to them? Supermarkets drive prices, my land
0:24:55 > 0:25:00prices, I was pulling a dead lamb out of the bottom of a ewe, every
0:25:00 > 0:25:03night I do that. That is my spare time job farming. It is a very,
0:25:03 > 0:25:07very gruelling occupation. At the end of the day there isn't the
0:25:07 > 0:25:12return for it. I will have to take a decision in the next two to three
0:25:12 > 0:25:18months do I close down my flock completely, and say OK can we just
0:25:18 > 0:25:21do beef and spelt or do we have to close beef as well. 30% less than a
0:25:21 > 0:25:28year ago, it doesn't pay to produce them. You have pointed to part of
0:25:28 > 0:25:31the solution, either go niche or, if you want to do commodity farming,
0:25:31 > 0:25:36large-scale milk or cereal, you have to go big. No you don't. You
0:25:36 > 0:25:41cannot go big. If you are looking at doing sustainable, keeping the
0:25:41 > 0:25:44soil, you don't rip out Brazilian rainforests and put it in
0:25:44 > 0:25:48agriculture and see it striped out because of big farming. The whole
0:25:48 > 0:25:51idea of a sustainable environment is you look after your soil, every
0:25:51 > 0:25:54element, from insecretary through to bird and animal and take a
0:25:54 > 0:25:58responsibility for all of that. Nobody will take a responsibility
0:25:58 > 0:26:08for those hedgerows and all of that part of the land that he can sis
0:26:08 > 0:26:11
0:26:11 > 0:26:15otherwise, a farmer has to do -- a farmer has to do that as part of
0:26:15 > 0:26:19the environment. They want satisfaction and a fair price and a
0:26:19 > 0:26:21wage. People were passionate about digging coal? They were, but every
0:26:21 > 0:26:27industry is going through an economic crisis at the moment. What
0:26:27 > 0:26:31is different about farming is in fact you have the added problems of
0:26:31 > 0:26:39the weather. Simply and briefly explain to me the lady in the film
0:26:39 > 0:26:42talked about how it costs her 32p a pint to produce milk and she gets
0:26:42 > 0:26:45paid 28p, what is happening there? The prices are the market. We have
0:26:45 > 0:26:49to look at the market system to ensure farmers receive a fair price
0:26:49 > 0:26:54for their product. That is a large, significant political debate that
0:26:54 > 0:26:58needs to be had. She simply can't produce it cheaply enough, that the
0:26:58 > 0:27:02problem? It is looking at the quality of the milk they produce.
0:27:02 > 0:27:07Maybe it is the other way round, the price of the milk isn't
0:27:07 > 0:27:11expensive enough. In the 70s we spent 30% of our income. Have you
0:27:11 > 0:27:16tried that argument in the shops, you are not paying enough for your
0:27:16 > 0:27:20food? I would love to say I could. I think our Sharp and Park food
0:27:20 > 0:27:24prices we haven't raised the price for four years, but the costs have
0:27:24 > 0:27:27gone up. We are completely driven by the pricing of the market,
0:27:27 > 0:27:31driven by the big supermarkets, and they are driven by Government
0:27:31 > 0:27:34policy, which is you have to offer good food price to the public.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37other thing if I may say, everybody who is listening to the programme
0:27:37 > 0:27:44can do something about it, buying British is a crucial part of our
0:27:44 > 0:27:48future. We return to the explosion in
0:27:48 > 0:27:58Boston, two people have died and Boston Police have told Newsnight
0:27:58 > 0:28:09
0:28:09 > 0:28:13that more than 20 people are With us is Bill Bratton, a former
0:28:14 > 0:28:20Police Commissioner in Boston, as well as New York and Los Angeles.
0:28:20 > 0:28:24Your reaction please? I'm here in London currently and I received a
0:28:24 > 0:28:28phone call while I was at dinner earlier this evening about the
0:28:28 > 0:28:31event in Boston. I was immediately very concerned because I have
0:28:32 > 0:28:36friend and relatives running in that race, and many friends on the
0:28:36 > 0:28:40Boston police department. So the initial reaction was one of shock
0:28:41 > 0:28:45that it would have occurred in Boston on their very special day.
0:28:45 > 0:28:50This is from a patriotic standpoint, the day that celebrates the start
0:28:50 > 0:28:55of the American revolution. It is the most significant event in
0:28:55 > 0:29:00Boston each year. Personally and professionally I was both shocked
0:29:00 > 0:29:04and concerned and over the last couple of hours have tried to learn
0:29:04 > 0:29:08what I can about what occurred there. It does not appear that
0:29:09 > 0:29:14anybody I know personally of injured in the event. Shocked, of
0:29:14 > 0:29:18course, surprised that an outrage should take place in your country?
0:29:18 > 0:29:24Certainly that we have been very fortunate since the events of 9/11
0:29:24 > 0:29:29to have prevented many attacks that have been attempted in the United
0:29:29 > 0:29:37States. So this one coming on this particular day I think you are
0:29:37 > 0:29:41always surprised when they do happen. We certainly tried to take
0:29:41 > 0:29:44as many precautions in America as possible, like you do in the United
0:29:44 > 0:29:48States, you have an event on Wednesday and your own marathon on
0:29:48 > 0:29:52Sunday. That will increase concerns about security with the two
0:29:52 > 0:29:56significant events in the neck week. We have an expression in America --
0:29:56 > 0:30:01in the next week. We have an expression in America in relation
0:30:01 > 0:30:11to terrorism incident, it is not a matter of "if "requesting ", it is
0:30:11 > 0:30:13
0:30:13 > 0:30:20a matter of "when" -- a matter of "if", it is a question of "when".
0:30:20 > 0:30:24Have you any idea of the people who did this? There was an early report
0:30:24 > 0:30:28of an explosion at the presidential like brow adjacent to Boston
0:30:28 > 0:30:32harbour, that is reported to be an electrical fire, no relationship to
0:30:32 > 0:30:36the events at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. I would point
0:30:36 > 0:30:42out that the finish line of that race is the most highly-secured
0:30:42 > 0:30:48portion of the 26-mile event. It is also within 25 yards of where the
0:30:48 > 0:30:53media from around the world would be on a platform that goes across
0:30:53 > 0:30:57the street at that location. If that bomb had gone off about an
0:30:57 > 0:31:00hour, an hour-and-a-half earlier at the finish of the race when the
0:31:00 > 0:31:04first runner came across, there would have been many more people at
0:31:04 > 0:31:07the location of the bombings, there would have been a lot more media
0:31:07 > 0:31:11attention, the media attention tends to fall off very quickly
0:31:11 > 0:31:21after the first female and male runner come across the finish line.
0:31:21 > 0:31:24
0:31:24 > 0:31:29The planning of those devices at that location quite obviously was
0:31:29 > 0:31:34serious. It was appearing that they would want maximum worldwide
0:31:35 > 0:31:38publicity. The event ironically seemed to be captured on not
0:31:38 > 0:31:43professional cameras but on initially cameras of people there
0:31:43 > 0:31:47as spectators. Thank you for joining us.
0:31:47 > 0:31:53MPs are being asked tomorrow to make it illegal to discriminate
0:31:54 > 0:31:57against someone because of a set of prejudices much it tells you that
0:31:57 > 0:32:03they tell you it makes them inferior. Surely that is already
0:32:03 > 0:32:07illegal, it is not, in the case of caste prejudice it is not. Gandhi
0:32:07 > 0:32:11called the called untouchables the children of good. It is illegal to
0:32:11 > 0:32:14discriminate against them in India, but not here, apparently. The
0:32:14 > 0:32:21British Government, despite having ministers for equality, doesn't
0:32:22 > 0:32:31seem to want to make it illegal. Our reporter has been rather
0:32:32 > 0:32:37
0:32:37 > 0:32:47baffled. I came to this country more than 30 years ago from India,
0:32:47 > 0:32:48
0:32:48 > 0:32:54thinking this is such a great country, open country.
0:32:54 > 0:33:03This is my first-ever photo. This is me. He grew up in the Punjab. He
0:33:03 > 0:33:08served in the Indian army for eight years. This is you. That is the one.
0:33:08 > 0:33:13In 1976 he moved to Bedford and got a job as a manager in a well-known
0:33:13 > 0:33:20public sector organisation, where he worked for 2525 years.
0:33:20 > 0:33:25Everything was going fine until one person, one particular person moved
0:33:26 > 0:33:31in to our office, he happened to belong to the upper caste, called
0:33:31 > 0:33:35upper caste. As he came in he learned who I am and who is the
0:33:35 > 0:33:40manager. I happened to be his manager. And he did not say nothing
0:33:40 > 0:33:45directly to me, but he told the other people his fellow colleagues,
0:33:45 > 0:33:51which are all my staff, he said to people that he is a higher caste,
0:33:51 > 0:33:56I'm the untouchable, I'm the very, very low. If I was in India he said,
0:33:56 > 0:34:01he's not my manager, so the word to people were telling me that I was
0:34:01 > 0:34:09not his manager. That you are not that person's manager because you
0:34:09 > 0:34:14are this, all the names you were telling from him. They were making
0:34:14 > 0:34:18jokes about it they thought it was funny. I was shelled shocked and it
0:34:18 > 0:34:23hit me like a bolt out of the blue. I did not know how to react to this,
0:34:23 > 0:34:25I didn't know how to respond to it. But I tried to take it light-
0:34:25 > 0:34:31heartedly. So to go along with the joke.
0:34:31 > 0:34:34When he called you untouchable and that you, being an untouchable,
0:34:34 > 0:34:43cannot be his manager, what hit you the most and the hardest? It is
0:34:43 > 0:34:53happening in Britain, it is happening here. I never, never
0:34:53 > 0:34:57expecting ...excuse me, which I... I'm sorry.
0:34:57 > 0:35:07I never, ever expected this never, ever expected this. This was the
0:35:07 > 0:35:09
0:35:09 > 0:35:15last thing coming into this country... Coming to this country
0:35:15 > 0:35:22thousands of miles away that all this followed me into such a great
0:35:22 > 0:35:28country. I worked with this individual for well over ten years.
0:35:29 > 0:35:33And this behaviour continued all that time. Even if I complained to
0:35:33 > 0:35:36my senior managers they wouldn't understood me. I never complained
0:35:37 > 0:35:43to anybody that this person is calling me these names. He stayed
0:35:43 > 0:35:46in his job until retirement. Now he campaigns against caste
0:35:46 > 0:35:54discrimination. Although what he experienced happened over a decade
0:35:54 > 0:36:00ago, caste prejudice continues today. In Britain it is estimated
0:36:00 > 0:36:04there are half a million people who are dulits, those belonging to the
0:36:04 > 0:36:08called lowest caste. A Government- commissioned report three years ago
0:36:08 > 0:36:13found evidence that some face harassment and discrimination at
0:36:13 > 0:36:18work, in schools and in the provision of care. Although the
0:36:18 > 0:36:23caste system has its basis in Hinduism, it has spread to other
0:36:23 > 0:36:28religions. Living in India, as I do, you
0:36:28 > 0:36:31cannot help but notice the existence of the caste system. The
0:36:31 > 0:36:35ancient social hierarchy that puts people in different categories by
0:36:35 > 0:36:39birth. To this day those born in the called lower castes face
0:36:39 > 0:36:45serious discrimination. The people who face the worst kind of
0:36:45 > 0:36:51discrimination are the dulet, who were branded as "untouchables ",
0:36:51 > 0:36:54for a long time now "untouchable" has been considered extremely
0:36:54 > 0:36:58derrogatory term. The Indian Government has made this
0:36:58 > 0:37:02discrimination illegal, but it doesn't mean it is stamped out.
0:37:02 > 0:37:10Here in Britain there is no such law. I'm visiting one of the
0:37:10 > 0:37:15temples attended by the dulet community in Bedford. This is our
0:37:15 > 0:37:20main prayer room, we have the holy scriptures here. This is one of the
0:37:20 > 0:37:24main paintings we have here. This man of born and brought up here,
0:37:24 > 0:37:31he's an IT consultant for a multinational company. Later he
0:37:31 > 0:37:36recounted what happened to him when three years ago an Indian colleague
0:37:37 > 0:37:40questioned him about his religion at work. When I said I'm a valmiki,
0:37:40 > 0:37:44she said I was one of the untouchables immediately. I was
0:37:44 > 0:37:47shocked and surprised to hear that from her, someone from this day and
0:37:47 > 0:37:51age, and in a professional environment, I didn't experience
0:37:51 > 0:38:00anything like that before in my life. I was shocked to hear that.
0:38:00 > 0:38:04She went on to say your good was a duku, which is a thief. I
0:38:04 > 0:38:09questioned her comments and asked where she heard that, and she said
0:38:09 > 0:38:15it was from the scriptures. I have a tattoo that is personal to me and
0:38:15 > 0:38:21my family and she made a comment on that and said untouchables were
0:38:21 > 0:38:24branded years ago with tattoo. That really got me. She was looking, our
0:38:24 > 0:38:28team members are looking at me thinking he's getting angry and
0:38:28 > 0:38:31what is happening with the two of them. I didn't take it own from
0:38:31 > 0:38:36then, and we finished the coffee break and went into the meeting.
0:38:36 > 0:38:41What made it worse is she started telling the non-Asians there that
0:38:41 > 0:38:45it is about myself, saying he's one of the untouchables he's a lower
0:38:45 > 0:38:49caste in my community. Making me feel small in front of other people
0:38:49 > 0:38:53there. A couple of weeks went by and I told my manager I couldn't
0:38:53 > 0:38:56work with this woman before, I said she upset me and made comments
0:38:56 > 0:39:00about my community which I'm not happy about. I would like to get
0:39:00 > 0:39:03moved off the project. My manager kind of understood where I was
0:39:03 > 0:39:06coming from, he said there is nothing we have as company policy
0:39:06 > 0:39:10or there is nothing in the law for this kind of situation. So there is
0:39:10 > 0:39:14nothing much they could do. What they will do is look to move me on
0:39:14 > 0:39:22to another project. As a company there was nothing they could do. It
0:39:22 > 0:39:27was almost like bite my tongue and move on situation.
0:39:27 > 0:39:31Jambe is campaigning to get the law changed. In the House of Lords
0:39:31 > 0:39:36legislation has been proposed to make caste discrimination illegal.
0:39:36 > 0:39:42We know in legislation on race that nothing has been more effective in
0:39:42 > 0:39:45reducing racial prejudice than the law. It has had a most powerful
0:39:45 > 0:39:49educative effect, and nothing could be more significant and effective
0:39:49 > 0:39:54in reducing discrimination on the ground of caste than to have a
0:39:54 > 0:39:59clear-cut law that discrimination in the public sphere would not be
0:39:59 > 0:40:04tolerated. But the Government opposes legislation and favours he
0:40:04 > 0:40:07had instead. There are other people who suffer prejudice in this
0:40:07 > 0:40:12country because of things like their class, their background or
0:40:12 > 0:40:15their place of birth, but we have no legislation on these matters, we
0:40:15 > 0:40:18deal with them through other approach.
0:40:18 > 0:40:22We are clear that no-one should suffer prejudice because of caste,
0:40:22 > 0:40:27as I have already said, such prejudice should not be condoned
0:40:27 > 0:40:32and never be ignored. That is why I'm pleased that the Government has
0:40:32 > 0:40:38announced that it is taking clear action to tackle caste prejudice
0:40:38 > 0:40:46and discrimination through an educational initiative.
0:40:46 > 0:40:53What strikes Mo about Britain is how multicultural it is.
0:40:53 > 0:40:57Yet how strongly unacceptable cultural attitudes are challenged
0:40:58 > 0:41:01here must be a difficult question for society. With the children and
0:41:01 > 0:41:11grandchildren of immigrants growing up in this country it cannot be
0:41:11 > 0:41:12
0:41:12 > 0:41:16ignored. My grandson came from school and he said that his friend
0:41:16 > 0:41:22said to him that he was from the highest caste in the Sikhs. Where
0:41:22 > 0:41:28did he pick that up from? It is always the older people are telling
0:41:28 > 0:41:33younger people. How do you explain to a young ten-year-old about the
0:41:33 > 0:41:40caste system, he has never seen the workings of the caste system, who
0:41:40 > 0:41:47thinks he's equal to anybody who knows to school with him. Here to
0:41:47 > 0:41:52discuss if legislation is the right approach are my guests from the
0:41:52 > 0:41:58anti-caste discrimination alliance, and the President of the Hindu Form
0:41:58 > 0:42:02yum. Precisely why shouldn't be it made illegal to treat someone as
0:42:02 > 0:42:09that first chap in particular we saw was treated. That is really
0:42:09 > 0:42:13horrible? You may say that but you know the Government once passed the
0:42:13 > 0:42:19legislation back in 2010 and they carried out a research. And the
0:42:19 > 0:42:21research acknowledges there is not sufficient evidence base there.
0:42:22 > 0:42:25What we are proposing to the Government. What more evidence do
0:42:26 > 0:42:29you want f it happened to one person that is one too many? If you
0:42:29 > 0:42:33look at it the other way there are many, I think, you saw the debate
0:42:33 > 0:42:36in the House of Lords, that there are other people who have been
0:42:36 > 0:42:40discriminate, they have made a law there. The other thing is if the
0:42:40 > 0:42:45Hindu community has never been consulted on this, they are the
0:42:46 > 0:42:49community who will be affected. is either wrong or right? It may be,
0:42:49 > 0:42:51but the Government in this democratic country should be having
0:42:52 > 0:42:57a consultation with the community that will be affected. That
0:42:57 > 0:43:02opportunity has never been given to us Hindus. Can you help us with why
0:43:02 > 0:43:09that approach, you think, doesn't work? We have enough evidence
0:43:09 > 0:43:12actually, the provision in the Eqality Act, the section 95A has
0:43:12 > 0:43:16never been brought into force. Within the then Government
0:43:16 > 0:43:20introduced it they said if evidence, independent evidence was to come to
0:43:20 > 0:43:27light that they would think about legislationing there. What we have
0:43:27 > 0:43:30had is a report by a very reputable research body, an independent
0:43:30 > 0:43:35research body called the National Institute of Economic and Social
0:43:35 > 0:43:38Research. And they reported in December 2010 that there is
0:43:38 > 0:43:45evidence of caste-based discrimination in the areas that
0:43:45 > 0:43:53are covered by the Eqality Act. We have the evidence. The argument is
0:43:53 > 0:43:57about, saving your presence, there is evidence, you have adduced it,
0:43:57 > 0:44:01it happens. Let's accept it happens, why not make it illegal?
0:44:01 > 0:44:04Government when the legislation of passed in 2010, when we met the
0:44:04 > 0:44:12minister concerned they accepted that the legislation is not the way
0:44:12 > 0:44:16forward. There is education to be carried out in that. The Government
0:44:16 > 0:44:23stated the legislation. You want MPs to vote against any proposal to
0:44:23 > 0:44:29make it illegal? Not as simple as that. What we have said in our
0:44:29 > 0:44:35proposals is let us sit together and have comprehensive research
0:44:35 > 0:44:39done on this, then let's quantify what the evidence is before us.
0:44:39 > 0:44:44are denying it again. You have just seen and heard the evidence and
0:44:44 > 0:44:49more examples of it, you are still denying it? The Government needs to
0:44:49 > 0:44:53report itself is inconclusive, you read the report, 135-pages. Do you
0:44:53 > 0:44:55think people testifying in the film were making it up? You think.That
0:44:55 > 0:45:00is a very serious accusation to make, I advise you to be very
0:45:00 > 0:45:04careful about that? I'm not saying they are making it up, but we have
0:45:04 > 0:45:08done our own research and Jeremy, we have got thousands, hundreds of
0:45:08 > 0:45:14thousands of dulets on oured side, they have written to the Government
0:45:14 > 0:45:18that we oppose caste legislation, because the caste legislation is a
0:45:18 > 0:45:22dying disease. The British Hindus living here don't want to identify
0:45:22 > 0:45:26it as a caste basis. That may well be true of the vast majority, if,
0:45:27 > 0:45:31as I say, it happens even once it is not acceptable is it? Maybe to
0:45:31 > 0:45:34you, but to the Hindus they are not willing to accept that. You think
0:45:34 > 0:45:38it is acceptable? We need an education process which the
0:45:38 > 0:45:42Government is working with us, and credit to the current Government,
0:45:42 > 0:45:45we had a project going and we were about to launch the education
0:45:45 > 0:45:55programme to eradicate any sort of discrimination. Who do you speak on
0:45:55 > 0:46:02behalf of? I speak on behalf of the organisation, Alliance of Hindus.
0:46:02 > 0:46:07Your view is widespread is it? is the Indian population. You speak
0:46:07 > 0:46:12on behalf of hundreds of thousands people, and they really think there
0:46:12 > 0:46:17is virtually no caste discrimination? I did not say that.
0:46:17 > 0:46:24You just accused those gentlemen gentlemen we saw in the film of
0:46:24 > 0:46:32making it up? I did not say. That let's get everything else together.
0:46:32 > 0:46:36That was the view of a journalist. How common is this attitude? Well I
0:46:36 > 0:46:41am really, really surprised that you are sitting here and saying the
0:46:41 > 0:46:51caste system doesn't exist and this isn't a problem. This is an issue
0:46:51 > 0:46:52
0:46:52 > 0:46:59and a serious issue. The evidence in the report talked about. This is
0:46:59 > 0:47:03the NUSA report? Yes. They outlined case studies, they were asked to go
0:47:03 > 0:47:08out and establish if there was caste race discrimination in the UK,
0:47:08 > 0:47:12and they established just that. We do have that. What NUSA said
0:47:12 > 0:47:19confirms what we found in our report as well. A year before.
0:47:19 > 0:47:24Let's get to the kuornnel of this, that is the contention that by
0:47:24 > 0:47:29making it illegal you don't stop it, but education might stop it?
0:47:29 > 0:47:34Education alone will not work. You can have an education approach.
0:47:34 > 0:47:38That is just an assertion? Can you go into a work place with all the
0:47:38 > 0:47:42guidance and a person comes in, just like the gentleman there
0:47:42 > 0:47:47discriminated against in the work place, they can say, yes, I have
0:47:47 > 0:47:52been discriminated on the basis of my caste. But what more can I do
0:47:52 > 0:47:56actually beyond that? There is no legal framework. If I turned it
0:47:56 > 0:48:04around and I were a white female in a work place and harassed by a male
0:48:04 > 0:48:08colleague in that way, I could take that up as a gender equality issue.
0:48:08 > 0:48:13We have gender equality issue within the Eqality Act. It is one
0:48:13 > 0:48:19of the protected characteristics, we don't have that. You don't think
0:48:20 > 0:48:24racial prejudice is a question of he hadcation, or gender prejudice
0:48:24 > 0:48:27is a question for education. There was evidence that the racial
0:48:27 > 0:48:32Eqality Act had to come in. This particular research is very flawed.
0:48:32 > 0:48:36If you see the research acknowledges there was no hard
0:48:36 > 0:48:44evidence of the extepblt of caste discrimination in the UK and
0:48:44 > 0:48:48further research is needed to quantify the reality of it.
0:48:48 > 0:48:58They are not denying it happens, just not the extent? They can't
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0:49:00 > 0:49:03quantify it. One thing we have to remember is Hindus coming from this
0:49:03 > 0:49:07country have travelled from Mauritius, South Africa, and other
0:49:07 > 0:49:13places. They left India two centuries a they can't remember the
0:49:13 > 0:49:23caste system how can they practice. There may be pockets of Hindus who
0:49:23 > 0:49:27come from India. It is such a minute scale it could divide the
0:49:27 > 0:49:30community. Let's see how MPs vote. Before we go in the last few
0:49:30 > 0:49:35minutes President Obama has given his reaction to the two explosions
0:49:35 > 0:49:41in Boston that have killed two and injured more than 20. We still do
0:49:41 > 0:49:45not know who did this or why. People shouldn't jump to
0:49:45 > 0:49:53conclusions before we have the fact. Make no mistake we will get to the
0:49:53 > 0:49:55bottom of this and find out who did this, and why they did this. Any
0:49:55 > 0:50:04responsible individuals, any responsible groups will feel the
0:50:04 > 0:50:10full weight of justice. Today is a holiday in Massachusetts, Patriots
0:50:10 > 0:50:15Day, a day that celebrates the free and fiercely independent Sir it
0:50:15 > 0:50:21this great city of Boston has reflected from the earliest days of
0:50:21 > 0:50:28our nation. It draws people to the streets in a spirit of friend low
0:50:28 > 0:50:33competition. Boston is tough and resilient -- friendly competition.
0:50:33 > 0:50:35Boston is a you have to and resilient city. The American people
0:50:35 > 0:50:45will be with Boston every single step of the way.
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0:50:49 > 0:50:51We are awe out of time now, more We are awe out of time now, more
0:50:51 > 0:50:55tomorrow, until then good night. Good evening, strong winds over the
0:50:55 > 0:50:58next 24 hours, we have got some heavy rain to the North West of
0:50:59 > 0:51:02Scotland. Slowly Marching north through the afternoon. Staying
0:51:02 > 0:51:05cloudy dull and damp to the south. But inbetween there will be a slice
0:51:05 > 0:51:09of sunshine for the afternoon. A much dryer and brighter afternoon
0:51:09 > 0:51:13for Northern Ireland, with highs of 13-1 degrees. Still some rain for
0:51:13 > 0:51:17North West Scotland. Through the central lowlands although it is
0:51:17 > 0:51:22cloudy rain patchy and light at this stage. Still breezy, gusty
0:51:22 > 0:51:25winds to the east of the Pennine, along with the sunshine.
0:51:25 > 0:51:29Temperature 14-15. Where we have got that thicker cloud further
0:51:29 > 0:51:34south around 10-11 just about covers temperatures for the
0:51:34 > 0:51:39afternoon. There is always the risk of patchy light rain and drizzle
0:51:39 > 0:51:46sitting in the English Channel, Cornwall and Devon may see a little
0:51:46 > 0:51:49brightness at times. Patchy cloud and sunny spells and temperatures
0:51:50 > 0:51:541-13. For Tuesday there will be sunshine around, it is to the north
0:51:54 > 0:51:58and south of the country we have more cloud and rain. North western
0:51:58 > 0:52:01areas will see thicker cloud arriving. To the south on Wednesday,
0:52:02 > 0:52:06although there is cloud around, it will be a mild day with