:00:11. > :00:21.The Taliban tried to silence her, but today Malala addressed the
:00:21. > :00:22.
:00:22. > :00:27.world. So let us wage a global struggle against it literacy, d
:00:27. > :00:33.illiteracy, poverty, let us pick up our books and our pens, they are
:00:33. > :00:39.our most powerful weapon. But were the politicians really listening,
:00:39. > :00:47.we will ask Pakistan's ambassador to the UN, a pioneering Saudi film
:00:47. > :00:52.maker and a minister educated in Bangladesh. After the wife of
:00:52. > :00:59.Alexander Litvinenko is denied an inquiry into her husband's killing
:00:59. > :01:04.she says she will fight on. And then...The Whole Alan Whicker
:01:04. > :01:07.island. There is too many. remember the original travelling
:01:08. > :01:17.man. The two superheros from Seattle here to tell us how to
:01:18. > :01:20.
:01:20. > :01:25.protect the streets of London. Good evening, Malala Yousafzai had
:01:25. > :01:29.a 16th birthday she will never forget, nor one the UN will ever
:01:29. > :01:33.forget. Will her moving, powerful speech at the General Assembly in
:01:33. > :01:37.New York become the movement in history by changed the fortune of
:01:37. > :01:41.girls and young women denied an education, or will the passion and
:01:41. > :01:44.fervour she's trying to imbue in world leaders dissipate like so
:01:44. > :01:48.much else. The Taliban tried to deny this feisty teenager not only
:01:48. > :01:52.an education but her life. In a moment we will discuss what it
:01:52. > :01:59.would take to educate girls, not only in Pakistan, but around the
:01:59. > :02:03.world. From the Swat Valley in Pakistan,
:02:03. > :02:08.via a Birmingham hospital bed, to the United Nations in New York.
:02:08. > :02:15.This has been the extraordinary journey of Malala. Last October her
:02:15. > :02:22.life was nearly cut short by an aSAS san's bullet, after she had --
:02:22. > :02:26.assassin's bullet, after she had written a BBC Urdu blog about
:02:26. > :02:33.education. With only a faint sign of her injureies, she spent her
:02:33. > :02:38.16th birthday like no other. She reflected on why she was there.
:02:38. > :02:48.Taliban shot me on the left side of my forehead, they shot my friends
:02:48. > :02:51.
:02:51. > :02:57.too. They thought that the bullet would silence us. But they failed.
:02:57. > :03:02.And out of that silence came thousands of voices. The terrorists
:03:02. > :03:10.thought that they would change my aims and stop my ambitions. But
:03:10. > :03:18.nothing changed in my live exSeptember this. Weakness, fear,
:03:18. > :03:22.and hopelessness died, strength, power and courage was born.
:03:22. > :03:29.speech was about defiance but also forgiveness and non-violence. She
:03:29. > :03:33.saw herself in the tradition of Gandhi and Martin Luther King.
:03:33. > :03:39.not even hate the Taliban who shot me, even if there was a gun in my
:03:39. > :03:43.hand and he stands in front of me, I would not shoot him. But here is
:03:43. > :03:48.a reminder of what Malala and her many supporters are up against.
:03:48. > :03:54.When a reporter who had grown up in Pakistan recently returned there
:03:54. > :03:58.for Newsnight, she interviewed a hardline Mullah who runs a girls'
:03:58. > :04:05.Madrassah, he made it abundantly clear that Malala is now regarded
:04:05. > :04:08.as a dangerous figure. TRANSLATION: She talked about being open-minded
:04:08. > :04:15.and liberal, on the Internet. She said there is no need for the veil,
:04:15. > :04:20.and she always spoke against Islam, that is why the west like her. She
:04:20. > :04:25.crossed Islamic boundaries, and that is wrong. Today at the UN
:04:25. > :04:29.though Malala was undeterred by her opponents, instead she confidently
:04:29. > :04:35.argued for the need for universal primary education. The full extent
:04:35. > :04:41.of that problem has been revealed in a UN paper to mark Malala Day.
:04:41. > :04:46.57 million children are kept out of school, of those 28 million live in
:04:46. > :04:51.the world's conflict zones. Nigeria, Pakistan and Ethiopia are the
:04:51. > :04:57.countries with the worst records. But Malala's main concern is for
:04:57. > :05:07.young girls like herself. Her message, "empower yourselves".
:05:07. > :05:08.
:05:08. > :05:18.us pick up our books and our pens, they are our most powerful weapons.
:05:18. > :05:18.
:05:18. > :05:28.One child, one teacher, one book and one pen can change the world.
:05:28. > :05:28.
:05:28. > :05:33.Education is the only solution. Education first, thank you.
:05:33. > :05:38.Joining us now from New York is Pakistan's ambassador to the UN,
:05:38. > :05:45.here in the studio is a Labour MP and Shadow Minister for
:05:45. > :05:49.International Development and a Saudi Arabian film director.
:05:49. > :05:54.Ambassador first of all, was today embarrassing for Pakistan or a
:05:54. > :06:01.reason to celebrate. Because it doesn't show the country in a
:06:02. > :06:05.particularly good light? There was no embarrassment it was a cause for
:06:05. > :06:11.sl operation as a matter of fact. I sat through that session and I
:06:11. > :06:15.enjoyed every moment of it. Many in the audience were moved to tears
:06:15. > :06:19.because of the passionate words Malala used. Very few people know
:06:19. > :06:23.that Malala was a national icon before she became an international
:06:23. > :06:29.icon. She was a celebrity in Pakistan before she was shot. So
:06:29. > :06:35.what I want to tell you is what comes out of this day today is
:06:35. > :06:45.noblity of Malala. Her readiness to forgive and I think that in
:06:45. > :06:46.
:06:46. > :06:51.Pakistan we are proud of her. She sums up the essence of Pakistan, no
:06:51. > :06:56.embarrassment add all. On the BBC Urdu on-line traffic and social
:06:56. > :07:01.media, by the end of the day 70% of the comments on this BBC traffic
:07:01. > :07:07.was negative to Malala, words like "prostitute", "cursed woman", some
:07:07. > :07:14.of it so offensive it couldn't be kept up. Isn't it insurmountable in
:07:14. > :07:18.Pakistan to change these attitudes? It is not, when Malala is waging
:07:18. > :07:21.this struggle and people in Pakistan are waging a struggle for
:07:21. > :07:24.education, against violence, against extremism, you should give
:07:24. > :07:30.credit to the state of Pakistan and to the people of Pakistan. Let me
:07:30. > :07:35.tell you that the dynamic, the dialectic here is between violence
:07:35. > :07:40.on the one hand and education on the other. You know the person who
:07:40. > :07:45.shot Malala he was preaching violence, he wanted to put across
:07:45. > :07:49.his point of view through coercion, Malala used another vehicle,
:07:49. > :07:54.education. And the whole of Pakistan stands for that. I want to
:07:54. > :07:58.ask you, Malala is not in Pakistan now, when and if she will go back
:07:58. > :08:03.is a matter for the future. What is your Government doing now to make
:08:03. > :08:08.sure that every girl, for example, in the Swat Valley, can go to
:08:08. > :08:12.school safely. Because many don't? We are doing whatever we can. There
:08:12. > :08:16.is a war going on, there is war against terrorism. I think that's
:08:16. > :08:20.the root cause of all the violence that has proliferated throughout
:08:20. > :08:26.Pakistan. We have to fix this. We have to staunch this violence which
:08:26. > :08:30.is spreading. Let me tell you that Malala said something very profound,
:08:30. > :08:34.her voice has been heard, but because of her today here in the
:08:34. > :08:39.United Nations, she want that the voices of other victims all around
:08:39. > :08:43.the world should be heard. Let me tell you that Pakistan in this
:08:43. > :08:46.regard is proactive. Terrorists threatened there would be no
:08:46. > :08:51.elections, we went ahead and held elections, they said there should
:08:51. > :08:55.be no polio campaign, we went ahead and conducted a polio campaign. We
:08:55. > :09:00.went ahead with vaccination. So you have to compliment the genius of
:09:00. > :09:04.the people of Pakistan and their resill yeoints in -- resilience in
:09:04. > :09:07.the face of threats and violence. Malala said it is about educational
:09:07. > :09:10.opportunities at every level. You made a pioneering film about a
:09:10. > :09:15.young girl, and by a large education at school is good for
:09:15. > :09:17.young women, but at every level. What happens in Saudi is it is not
:09:17. > :09:22.about equal opportunities after school it is about segregation, it
:09:22. > :09:26.is about not being able to drive a car. How much needs to change
:09:26. > :09:29.across the world for opportunities for women? Well yeah definitely
:09:29. > :09:33.there is so much to change when it comes to women. It is amazing to
:09:33. > :09:38.see young girls like Malala who is coming and voicing their opinion
:09:38. > :09:42.and they have this sort of confidence. And I hope in places
:09:42. > :09:47.like Saudi, where they have a very heavyweight when it comes to
:09:47. > :09:50.politics and it comes to the economy in the Middle East. Because
:09:50. > :09:54.Saudi is moving away from being a very conservative state and more
:09:54. > :09:58.moderate and they are opening up. Can you put pressure on Pakistan?
:09:58. > :10:04.don't know if we can put pressure, I don't know I'm not a politician.
:10:04. > :10:08.But I feel like Saudi is a leader in this, a leading country. It
:10:08. > :10:12.leads by example and it is very important to see it opening up.
:10:12. > :10:18.we have to say that it leads by example but you can't drive in
:10:18. > :10:22.Saudi? I can't drive, but next year I start. The doctors can't work in
:10:22. > :10:26.hospitals treating men, this is the problem. You set up this huge
:10:26. > :10:28.expectation in Saudi for young women going to school and then the
:10:28. > :10:33.problems start? Now it is an exciting time in Saudi Arabia, it
:10:33. > :10:37.is a moving and changing society. The pressure comes, I unwhat Mr
:10:37. > :10:41.Ambassador was saying, it is a pressure -- I understand what Mr
:10:41. > :10:44.Ambassador was saying, the pressure comes from conservative forces that
:10:44. > :10:49.can't accept change, it is very difficult for them to move away
:10:49. > :10:55.from those conservative values. What can you do to politicians in
:10:55. > :10:59.this country when they are handing out international aid, sub-Saharan
:10:59. > :11:02.Africa has a dreadful record for girls in school. Don't you have to
:11:02. > :11:08.be tougher about the way aid is calibrated and the demands you make
:11:08. > :11:12.for that aid? What Malala has symbolised is a form of
:11:12. > :11:16.international leadership that says to world politicians this is a
:11:16. > :11:19.rallying cry. If you don't sees this moment then it will be too --
:11:19. > :11:24.seize this moment then it will be too late for millions of girls
:11:24. > :11:27.around the world. This is a very important time, including the
:11:27. > :11:32.western Governments like here, to show leadership and put women's
:11:32. > :11:36.rights and empowerment and human rights at the heart of the agenda
:11:36. > :11:39.and set govern ance. We are about to withdraw from Pakistan and the
:11:39. > :11:43.requirements we were making in terms of the women's issues have
:11:43. > :11:50.been lessened on the way out of Pakistan? We have a huge aid budget
:11:50. > :11:56.to Pakistan. Afghanistan, I mean? Absolutely. And that sets a huge
:11:56. > :11:59.challenge when we engage in peace processes women's voices are not at
:11:59. > :12:03.the heart of the debate, violence and sexual violence is used as a
:12:03. > :12:06.weapon of war against women as well as in these sorts of cases.
:12:06. > :12:11.ambassador was talking about the Swat being a warzone, literally
:12:11. > :12:15.just now with terrorism. But is this about poverty, is it about
:12:15. > :12:19.culture, is it about religion? is about a number of issues. The
:12:19. > :12:23.first one is it is about certain groups, extremist groups, trying to
:12:23. > :12:27.hijack the agenda. We need to create the space for women like
:12:27. > :12:33.Malala to be safe and secure so that they can speak up as she is
:12:33. > :12:35.doing for their countries. There is a great tradition in the sub-
:12:35. > :12:39.continent of women speaking up and fighting for their rights. Our
:12:39. > :12:43.Governments need to empower and support them. Do you think it is
:12:43. > :12:47.about poverty, culture or religion? I think it is all mixed up, I don't
:12:47. > :12:52.think there is a clear answer. That is the pure reason. I think it is a
:12:52. > :12:58.lot of the religious practices are mixed, especially in Saudi with
:12:58. > :13:00.social and tribal practices and all tangled and people sometimes don't
:13:00. > :13:06.distinguish, they don't know what is like social, what is the
:13:06. > :13:09.religious and what is all that. But certainly in places like Pakistan
:13:09. > :13:15.and Saudi Arabia to a certain degree it is very tribal. There is
:13:15. > :13:18.a pressure on the individual and from the collective. People cannot
:13:18. > :13:23.take personal choices and stuff like that. Just to finish with you,
:13:23. > :13:31.you honoured and said that it was a tremendous moment and an honour to
:13:31. > :13:36.be there in front of Malala. Will women's freedom, freedoms now be
:13:36. > :13:40.made a priority for the Pakistan Government after today? It has been
:13:41. > :13:47.a priority, let me tell you. It remains a priority of the new
:13:47. > :13:52.Government under the leadership of Mr Sharif. Let me also tell you and
:13:52. > :13:59.let me reassure you that there are millions of Malalas in Pakistan,
:13:59. > :14:04.there is a Malala in every house in Pakistan. Because we represents our
:14:04. > :14:09.spirit, the spirit of Pakistan. Yes, I was listening to you, there are
:14:09. > :14:13.three problems, of course there is illiteracy and there is poverty and
:14:13. > :14:19.terrorism. This is a very, very vicious brew, we are pitted against
:14:19. > :14:25.it. We are mobilising all our resources to fight this menace. But
:14:25. > :14:29.Malala's missage is larger than that. It is not -- message is
:14:29. > :14:32.larger than that, it is not just Pakistan, it is the poverty and
:14:32. > :14:36.marginalisation of girls around the world. Thank you very much indeed
:14:36. > :14:40.all of you. At the very last minute the Home Secretary, Theresa May,
:14:40. > :14:43.today denied the widow of the poisoned MI6 consultant, Alexander
:14:44. > :14:47.Litvinenko, a public inquiry into his death. After his murder in
:14:47. > :14:51.London seven years ago relations between Britain and Russia became
:14:52. > :14:57.very strained as the finger of blame was pointed at two men from
:14:57. > :15:00.Russia who hus a meeting with Mr Litvinenko. Sir Robert Owen, the
:15:00. > :15:06.coroner had requested a public inquiry to look at secret evidence
:15:06. > :15:07.relating to the Russian state's involvement in the killing. In what
:15:08. > :15:10.Marina Litvinenko called a political decision the Home Office
:15:10. > :15:17.blocked it. Earlier today I spoke to her and asked her for her
:15:17. > :15:23.reaction to the news. First of all we were waiting for this news a
:15:23. > :15:26.long time. It was supposed to be the 1st of July we were waiting for
:15:26. > :15:31.the news, whether or not we would have the public inquiry. Then it
:15:31. > :15:37.was 9th of July and no news. When we went in the morning to the
:15:37. > :15:43.courtroom we were just not sure what we were expecting. And the
:15:43. > :15:46.coroner said it is only 10. 15 and he received the news the Government
:15:46. > :15:53.declined our request for public inquiry. What do you feel about
:15:53. > :16:00.that kind of treatment? I was surprised. Is this the way to treat
:16:00. > :16:05.people in a court or why did the news come so late? For me it was
:16:05. > :16:09.still more questions to my lawyers why it has happened? Of course they
:16:09. > :16:14.can't answer me because it is probably not the first time but it
:16:14. > :16:17.is not very often happened to people. It is not very often
:16:17. > :16:21.happened to people that the Home Office phones an hour before being
:16:21. > :16:26.due in court to say there will be no inquiry? There was no
:16:26. > :16:29.explanation. No explanation at all? No. Your coroner believed only at a
:16:29. > :16:35.public inquiry could some of the evidence come out about your
:16:35. > :16:41.husband's connections with MI6. What kind of connections were they
:16:41. > :16:45.with MI6? He was consulted for information about Russian organised
:16:45. > :16:51.crime. So it wasn't a case that this was no James Bond agent?
:16:52. > :16:56.Absolutely. I think his job, like a consultant for MI6 started for two
:16:56. > :17:00.or three years. The coroner felt you absolutely had to have a public
:17:00. > :17:07.inquiry for particular evidence to be revealed. What was that
:17:07. > :17:13.evidence? The first time we listened about this evidence was
:17:13. > :17:17.December last year. It was quite special for us, it was the first
:17:17. > :17:20.time in an official way that was said this is evidence of the
:17:21. > :17:26.Russian state behind this crime. Before we can talk about this but
:17:26. > :17:31.we could not prove it. After February and May it was the first
:17:31. > :17:38.time coroner said he can't go through because he wasn't able to
:17:38. > :17:48.use this evidence. Do you feel safe on a day-to-day basis in London?
:17:48. > :17:53.did feel safe even before Sasha died. For us it started to be home,
:17:53. > :17:59.for our son who was just six years old, and now he's 19, he has spent
:17:59. > :18:06.most of his life here. It is difficult to say is he English or
:18:06. > :18:10.Russian? When Sasha died I received this question almost every
:18:10. > :18:15.interview, "do you feel safe"? It is difficult to say. Would you feel
:18:15. > :18:21.safe if you were in Russia? For the last 13 years I have not been in
:18:21. > :18:26.Russia. It is quite a long time much every time when we discuss
:18:26. > :18:31.whether or not I would be safe if I deciding to I don't know really.
:18:32. > :18:36.What has been the impact of all this on you personally? I came
:18:36. > :18:44.because of my husband. I support his decision to go to England and
:18:44. > :18:52.when I lost him I was just like what do I have to do, what is next?
:18:52. > :18:55.The decision to go through and just find this truth probably is keeping
:18:56. > :19:00.me strong. Have you enough fight in you, enough money, enough
:19:00. > :19:06.everything to keep going until you find out the truth? You know
:19:06. > :19:10.probably I will look at Sasha and what he did for us and what I
:19:10. > :19:15.remember about him. I know what he would do if it was happened
:19:15. > :19:22.something to his friend or to us. It makes me feel I have to do this.
:19:22. > :19:29.I have to do this because it is of his name, of his memory and I have
:19:29. > :19:33.to have some kind of, not finish, but finalising and I can't say to
:19:33. > :19:43.relax, but to be sure for myself I did everything for him. Thank you
:19:43. > :19:46.
:19:46. > :19:52.very much. Rohan Bewick, who died today at the
:19:52. > :19:56.age Alan Whicker who died today brought the world to people for
:19:56. > :20:01.themselves. Interviewing notorious people to the fabulously rich and
:20:01. > :20:11.wonderfully strange. Many travel journalists have tried to fill Alan
:20:11. > :20:14.
:20:14. > :20:19.Whicker's perfectly polished shoes. Whicker's World was the last word
:20:19. > :20:27.in cosmopolitan travel and elegant broad kags. It had the music,
:20:27. > :20:31.broadcasting. It had the music, so what if it dropped the apostrophe
:20:32. > :20:36.from time to time, that is how urbane and sophisticated it was.
:20:36. > :20:43.And, of course it had one of the most singular front men in the
:20:43. > :20:48.business. Often imitated, almost amputated, but never duplicated.
:20:48. > :20:58.There is always something awful out there just beyond the shadows, or
:20:58. > :21:06.something unspeakable about to happen in some sinister dungeon.
:21:06. > :21:11.wanted to write and travel. And journalist being seemed to be the
:21:11. > :21:16.way. There was a lot of romance about being a correspondent which I
:21:16. > :21:20.eventually became, which was the target. Alan Whicker joined the
:21:20. > :21:27.BBC's Tonight Programme from Fleet Street, like others since he was
:21:27. > :21:33.glad to quit the inky streets for late night news programmes at the
:21:33. > :21:40.corporation. As I stroll along with an independent air! Unlike many in
:21:40. > :21:46.television Alan Whicker could actually write. Commemorated in
:21:46. > :21:50.song and suicide the casino, sugar- cake charming or seductively wicked
:21:50. > :21:55.dominated this incredible village. While over the hill the Monte Carlo
:21:56. > :22:00.beach, while not a beach and not in Monte Carlo. There he is in these
:22:00. > :22:03.exotic places and he takes you with him. He was incredibly inclusive,
:22:03. > :22:07.he knew he was there on your behalf and he was having fun, didn't
:22:07. > :22:10.pretend he wasn't having a jolly good time and staying in great
:22:10. > :22:17.hotels. We don't do that any more, of course. But he did it on behalf
:22:17. > :22:24.of the viewers. The long-running Whicker's World kicked off at the
:22:24. > :22:29.country pile of reclusive billionare J Paul Getty, who
:22:29. > :22:35.thoughtfully installed a pay phone for guests. Alan Whicker maintained
:22:35. > :22:39.you could do anything as long as you did it with charm. You seemed
:22:39. > :22:43.seem a melancholy man, your normal expression is not normally a happy
:22:43. > :22:50.one, you often seem so miserable people must believe your money has
:22:50. > :22:56.not brought you happiness? suppose that's the effect I suppose
:22:56. > :23:04.of responsibility. Alan Whicker also encountered the dictator of
:23:04. > :23:11.Haiti Papa Doc Duvalier. You have had the worst international press
:23:11. > :23:17.of any President I have known. got away with a lot but it was
:23:17. > :23:23.partly this attitude which is charm, authoritativeness, and a refusal
:23:23. > :23:28.really to compromise. You could see that in his garments. I mean he
:23:29. > :23:35.dressed everywhere, it might be in Alaska, he could be in Haiti, and
:23:35. > :23:39.he would dress like some old fashioned bank manager who had once
:23:39. > :23:44.been a major in the army. He didn't change at all. A problem people who
:23:44. > :23:50.are fast disappearing off the face of the earth. A race who one might
:23:50. > :23:57.say are losing...That Changeless persona was famously sent up by the
:23:57. > :24:07.Pythons. Where only reality is missing...Hello, Alan Whicker here.
:24:07. > :24:07.
:24:07. > :24:12.And by the man himself. Hello I'm sitting here in Sam Suhimo to
:24:12. > :24:17.salute the city break. I'm always voted the luckiest man
:24:17. > :24:20.in the world, the one everyone envys because I never do work. I go
:24:20. > :24:29.to wonderful places talking to attractive girls all the time, no
:24:29. > :24:32.wonder, it is the best job in the world. They blow my cover! There
:24:32. > :24:36.have been some strange sightings in London this week. Linked to the
:24:36. > :24:39.fact that the capital has been hosting a symposium for people with
:24:39. > :24:42.superpowers, not literally but people think they have a superpower
:24:43. > :24:46.role in fighting crime, keeping communities safe. They see
:24:46. > :24:50.themselves rather like Special Constables but not in such mundane
:24:50. > :24:59.uniforms. In fact they also describe themselves as costumed
:24:59. > :25:06.activists. Felix Stone and his wife came over to London from Seattle to
:25:06. > :25:13.offer advice about keeping the streets clean rather than mean.
:25:13. > :25:18.Phoenix Jones, and Purple Rain, real identity unknown are roaming
:25:18. > :25:28.the city. So to test out their geek credentials, we took them comic
:25:28. > :25:31.
:25:31. > :25:39.shopping at superhero Mecca Forbidden Planet. Do you have Bat
:25:39. > :25:46.Girl Vol12. They headed for two of got tham City's finest, Bat Girl,
:25:46. > :25:50.but unlike fans, Phoenix Jones is a triple black belt and semi-
:25:50. > :25:56.professional martial arts fighter. So he and his wife are living the
:25:56. > :26:00.dream. Wearing body armour on nightly patrols, breaking up
:26:00. > :26:03.drunken punch-ups, occasional low getting stabbed, allegedly pepper
:26:03. > :26:07.spraying protestors, something he denies. It sound like an average
:26:07. > :26:12.day in the Seattle police force rather than a costumed vigilante.
:26:12. > :26:18.Yet the city attorney has called him "deeply misguided" and he has
:26:18. > :26:23.once been arrested for assault. Why does Phoenix Jones do it? Here is
:26:23. > :26:27.the man himself, with Purple Rain at his side. Where are you on the
:26:27. > :26:30.streets? You know I think it is time for citizens to really stand
:26:30. > :26:35.up and defend themselves and what we believe in. It is always a good
:26:35. > :26:39.time to look out for your brothers and fellow citizens, that is what
:26:39. > :26:43.we represent. Give us an example of how you intervene? For the most
:26:44. > :26:48.part when we are out we are wearing cameras so we are able to collect
:26:48. > :26:53.video evidence when crimes are taking place. We go and we
:26:53. > :26:58.deescalate the situation. We help the victims if necessary if they
:26:58. > :27:03.need first aid, we call 911, or here 999 and get the police.
:27:03. > :27:06.have done some superhero work on the streets? We have patrolled but
:27:06. > :27:09.not run across crime yet. streets of London are not giving
:27:09. > :27:12.you what you want at the moment. Why not just call the police?
:27:12. > :27:15.call the police. I think it is important to note that we don't
:27:15. > :27:18.want to take the role of the police, the police have a job that is very
:27:18. > :27:23.important. When the police show up it is cool to have video evidence.
:27:23. > :27:26.Do they like you? The police in Seattle like us now, not when we
:27:26. > :27:30.start. What has changed, how do you operate with the police? We operate
:27:30. > :27:35.before they get there. When they show up I give a video and write a
:27:36. > :27:38.police report and testify in court if I have to. You are not wearing
:27:39. > :27:42.your mask because we are law- abiding people and a you don't have
:27:42. > :27:45.to, are you not threatening? really, people in Seattle know what
:27:45. > :27:52.it is, they have come to understand and respect what we do. They are
:27:52. > :27:56.not offended by it. You are really channelling something else, are you
:27:56. > :28:01.superheros or vigilantes it is more? No.It is about Night Wing
:28:01. > :28:05.and Bat Girl, it is more about that than anything else isn't it? No, so
:28:05. > :28:09.a lig lantity is somebody who exacts their own form of --
:28:09. > :28:12.vigilantly is someone who exacts their own form of justice, what we
:28:12. > :28:19.do is something different, you hurt someone we stop you and hold you
:28:19. > :28:22.accountable for the laws that the citizens vote for. I have never
:28:22. > :28:26.hurt anybody on patrol, I have been hurt been I have never hurt anyone.
:28:26. > :28:29.Are you trying to get something going here, or are there superheros
:28:29. > :28:36.hiding in the twilight area of London that we don't know? There
:28:36. > :28:41.are a couple of guys we have been hanging out with and teaching them
:28:41. > :28:46.cool stuff. On the streets with this amazing stuff on, are you
:28:46. > :28:52.reasonably protected when you are out there, you have been stabbed?
:28:52. > :28:56.On the streets of Seattle I have armour and bulletproof vests, it is
:28:56. > :28:59.not useful here. We have stab- resistant plates. People know you
:28:59. > :29:04.in Seattle, do they run for the hills when they see you? Usually
:29:04. > :29:07.when we are out there people want to shake our hands and give us
:29:07. > :29:11.high-fives, they are happy to see us. People will laugh when they are
:29:11. > :29:15.having a fight they laugh at as you and instead of fighting each other,
:29:15. > :29:18.we are doing our job. Is this about responding to things that have
:29:18. > :29:22.happened to you in the past is it a way of dealing with things? Some
:29:22. > :29:25.people have coping mechanisms, other people decide to be a leader
:29:25. > :29:29.or champion of something. We decided instead of a bad thing
:29:29. > :29:32.happening to us we stand for something. When we go out there we
:29:32. > :29:35.tell citizens it is time to stand up and defend each other and
:29:35. > :29:40.believe in something. You better get going, thank you very much
:29:40. > :29:50.indeed. Time for tomorrow morning's front pages, two front pages Malala
:29:50. > :29:53.
:29:53. > :29:55.on the front of the Times and the That's about t I will be back on
:29:56. > :30:00.Monday. The Russian agency responsible for Kremlin security is