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:01:00. > :01:09.Would you want a boss like this? Wearing a tie, "I value you at our

:01:10. > :01:16.organisation Bob", it is not like that. The hierarchy is almost

:01:17. > :01:20.non-existent. We take a work with Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots,

:01:21. > :01:30.his actual job title, at the top-secret research centre known

:01:31. > :01:34.only as Google X. Good evening, with the polls

:01:35. > :01:38.consistently showing that voters prefer George Osborne to run the

:01:39. > :01:42.economy over Ed Balls, Labour have finally decided to address that lack

:01:43. > :01:46.of economic credibility. Mr Balls is set to make a speech tomorrow in

:01:47. > :01:50.which he will promise that Labour will wipe out the budget deficit by

:01:51. > :01:58.the end of the next parliament, if it wins the election. The deficit,

:01:59. > :02:02.by the way, is forecast to be around ?11 11 billion by April, it will

:02:03. > :02:08.legislate to make sure it does it what's more. There are no details on

:02:09. > :02:13.tax rises or spending cuts they would have to make to achieve that.

:02:14. > :02:17.No more Tory boom and bust, Labour said, they will balance the books

:02:18. > :02:21.over time, they said, and then... . Came the banking crisis and the

:02:22. > :02:25.biggest budget deficit since the Second World War. Here is the

:02:26. > :02:30.question the Government would like you to ask yourself, do you want to

:02:31. > :02:37.hand the keys back to the people who crashed the car? Labour's already

:02:38. > :02:40.said it wants to get rid of the underlying deficit so that stripping

:02:41. > :02:44.out the ups and downs of the economy the Treasury isn't spending more

:02:45. > :02:49.than it gets in tax. But until now Ed Balls has resisted setting

:02:50. > :02:53.himself a deadline. Tonight Labour promised if elected it will get rid

:02:54. > :02:56.of the deficit completely by the end of the next parliament. The

:02:57. > :02:59.difference between what Labour's promising tonight and what the

:03:00. > :03:03.Government has promised is actually only a year. The Government said it

:03:04. > :03:07.will get rid of the deficit by 2019, Labour is saying by 2020. But what

:03:08. > :03:11.Labour says is new about this announcement is their commitment to

:03:12. > :03:15.enshrine their deficit reduction plans in law. This week Labour's

:03:16. > :03:19.strategy of attacking the Government on the cost of living started to

:03:20. > :03:23.look unsafe. Business leaders gathering at Davos said it was in

:03:24. > :03:29.danger of demonising business, and that wasn't all. Unemployment fell

:03:30. > :03:32.far faster than expected to 7. 1%, figures were released by the

:03:33. > :03:36.Government saying incomes last year grew faster than inflation, and the

:03:37. > :03:41.polls showed a majority were confident about the economy for the

:03:42. > :03:45.first time since 2010. We have had further good news both on borrowing

:03:46. > :03:49.and also on jobs and we have seen the biggest increase in employment

:03:50. > :03:53.in Britain's history, that's great news because every one of those jobs

:03:54. > :03:57.is family more secure, and it is evidence that our long-term economic

:03:58. > :04:02.plan is working. Labour's critics point out it is not the first time

:04:03. > :04:06.it has promised fiscal rectitude, 20 years ago a young Ed Balls advised

:04:07. > :04:12.Gordon Brown when he promised to balance the books, which he did for

:04:13. > :04:19.the first parliament at least. Four years ago Alistair cap darling

:04:20. > :04:23.brought -- Darling brought in the fiscal cap promising to half the

:04:24. > :04:29.deficit in five years. And the new Government said they would scrap the

:04:30. > :04:34.deficit by 2015 and the economy blew both apart. It is thought Ed Balls

:04:35. > :04:38.wanted to avoid making a too similar announcement before the next

:04:39. > :04:42.election. By attempting to convince the British public they are

:04:43. > :04:45.economically safe, Labour are hoping they will be forgiven the last crash

:04:46. > :04:48.and given back the keys to the economy.

:04:49. > :04:52.Joining me now is the journalist Phil Collins, chief speechwriter for

:04:53. > :04:57.Tony Blair, with him columnist and founder of the website

:04:58. > :05:03.ConservativeHome, Tim Montgomerie. How significant is this? It is quite

:05:04. > :05:06.significant, you see the arguments starting to tip on the economy.

:05:07. > :05:10.Labour have had a really good run on the cost of living crisis. But they

:05:11. > :05:15.have been aware some time this year that will be a less significant

:05:16. > :05:19.question for them, as incomes start to rise. They are keenly aware they

:05:20. > :05:22.have to address the problem they have got on credibility. They are

:05:23. > :05:25.very good on compassion and cost of living but not so good on

:05:26. > :05:29.credibility. This is an attempt to try to neutralise a big weakness, it

:05:30. > :05:32.is an important moment and something coming for a long time. The big

:05:33. > :05:36.question for Labour is when do you do the announcement. There are some

:05:37. > :05:41.people, I'm one of them, who think that it should come much earlier and

:05:42. > :05:44.it may be too late now. Ed Balls has calculated that you have to be

:05:45. > :05:47.allowed to think you are responsible for the previous crisis first, and

:05:48. > :05:51.you have to let them get over that, and there comes a point, which is

:05:52. > :05:54.now, when you say but we have learned that lesson, that was

:05:55. > :05:56.history and now in the future we are going to be very responsible. That

:05:57. > :06:01.is what he's doing, it is an important moment. Do you think

:06:02. > :06:05.voters are over that as it was put? I don't think so, I think a lot of

:06:06. > :06:07.people still associate Labour with the errors of the past and still

:06:08. > :06:10.haven't got over that association because there has never been an

:06:11. > :06:15.apology for the fact that Britain did have the biggest of all the

:06:16. > :06:18.deficits of the developed world when this crisis happened. So I think

:06:19. > :06:22.Labour still have a credibility problem in that regard. And there is

:06:23. > :06:26.a second credibility problem is on the eve of the election, just a year

:06:27. > :06:31.or so to go they are now saying that they will be fiscally credible. A

:06:32. > :06:35.through this parliament when the coalition are making very difficult

:06:36. > :06:40.cuts they have opposed nearly all of them. All repent tenses are welcome,

:06:41. > :06:47.but a dead -- repentances are welcome but a death bed one is less

:06:48. > :06:50.convincing. This is a repentance out of desperation not conviction.

:06:51. > :06:52.Perhaps that is why they have said they will legislate to convince

:06:53. > :06:58.people. Will voters see through that? That is the importance of that

:06:59. > :07:01.to say this is definitive and there is no getting out of it. This was

:07:02. > :07:05.always coming. There was always going to be a moment which Labour

:07:06. > :07:09.would then assert. Nobody has ever thought Labour didn't want to clear

:07:10. > :07:13.the deficit, that is just a caricature. Of course there is the

:07:14. > :07:17.job of the opposition to conclude that things the Government are doing

:07:18. > :07:23.are wrong. I think Labour has suffered from the fact that it is,

:07:24. > :07:26.as you put it "apologised", buff to remember Labour doesn't think it has

:07:27. > :07:29.anything to apologise for, it doesn't think that the deficit is

:07:30. > :07:34.the upshot of its overspending, it thinks the deficit is a result of

:07:35. > :07:40.crisis in international banking which was not foreseeable and not a

:07:41. > :07:44.Labour problem. That was a big part of why so many countries had

:07:45. > :07:48.deficits, but Britain had the biggest deficit, that was because

:07:49. > :07:54.spending rose much, much faster under Labour than any other country

:07:55. > :07:57.in t world. Can I ask you both how they think they can achieve it

:07:58. > :08:01.wiping out the deficit and achieving a surplus? That is the big remaining

:08:02. > :08:05.question, what balance between tax rises on the one hand, and spending

:08:06. > :08:10.cuts on the other, we don't yet know. Ed Balls has begun a

:08:11. > :08:16.programme, not hugely publicised yet, which he calls the "zero-based

:08:17. > :08:20.review", he's asking all shadow spokesmen to think hard about their

:08:21. > :08:23.briefs and how they would find spending cuts. We don't know any

:08:24. > :08:26.detail on that at all. Will we before an election. We didn't last

:08:27. > :08:31.time before the election. Are they going to tell voters the details,

:08:32. > :08:34.will they have to and will voters demand that? They will want more

:08:35. > :08:39.detail from Labour because of the lack of honesty in the last election

:08:40. > :08:44.that you refer to from all parties. Part of Labour's problem is up until

:08:45. > :08:47.now the party under Ed Miliband has been incredibly united, largely

:08:48. > :08:51.because Ed Miliband and Ed Balls have told the party what they wanted

:08:52. > :08:54.to hear. How are the people on the left of the Labour Party, absolutely

:08:55. > :08:58.committed to the public sector going to react if Ed Balls starts spelling

:08:59. > :09:02.out the cuts. There is a lot of the left who really do think like Phil

:09:03. > :09:06.has described there is nothing to apologise for. If now Ed Balls is

:09:07. > :09:09.going to start in their eyes looking a lot like George Osborne, they

:09:10. > :09:13.might react very badly to that and suddenly Labour have a different

:09:14. > :09:17.problem. It might suit Ed Miliband to have another fight with the left?

:09:18. > :09:22.It might, he hasn't had any fights with the left yet. It would suit

:09:23. > :09:30.those of us who believe one of those would be welcome. There is a

:09:31. > :09:34.get-out-clause where Ed Balls's promise is to borrow for the current

:09:35. > :09:38.account not to invest. You could pledge to build a lot of house,

:09:39. > :09:42.infrastructure, aviation capacity. Which means the Tories will be able

:09:43. > :09:49.to say, look Labour are borrowing as they always have? The voters will

:09:50. > :09:54.think and be very receptive to that 1992 election message that John

:09:55. > :09:58.Major posed, the tax posters, that is what the Tories will frighten

:09:59. > :10:04.voters with, because Labour hasn't the reputation for fiscal sanity. If

:10:05. > :10:07.you talk about ?12 ?50 billion of tax rises to make up the gap, Labour

:10:08. > :10:11.have a problem. Don't you think it would be good to invest in housing.

:10:12. > :10:16.I think we do need to start switching spending on housing

:10:17. > :10:20.benefit, which is currently expenditure. The politics of it

:10:21. > :10:23.would override the fact that this would be good for the country? It is

:10:24. > :10:27.good for the country that we build houses and infrastructure and

:10:28. > :10:31.airports. But you are still against it? It is more important to cut

:10:32. > :10:35.current spending to afford that. It would be good but you are against

:10:36. > :10:38.it? I'm in favour of cutting current spending to finance spending for

:10:39. > :10:42.capital. There is chatter that Ed Balls is going to say something

:10:43. > :10:45.else, have you heard any steer of what it might be and what it should

:10:46. > :10:49.be? If there was something else it might be some very important

:10:50. > :10:54.indicative cut. One thing he could do to really change the conversation

:10:55. > :10:58.is to come forward and say, for example, we will cut this big item

:10:59. > :11:02.of expenditure. Because as Tim said Labour has been very reluctant to

:11:03. > :11:05.spell out anything. If it were anything else it might be that. My

:11:06. > :11:09.example that have would be HS 2, very unpopular in the country, would

:11:10. > :11:13.release billions of pounds to spend on housing and the other things that

:11:14. > :11:21.Labour want to spend on it. Would be very popular with the public. Thank

:11:22. > :11:26.you very much gentlemen. Now, 100,000 people dead and 9. 5 million

:11:27. > :11:29.displaced. Enough incentive, one would have thought, for those at war

:11:30. > :11:32.in Syria to get together in a room and try to end the fighting. That

:11:33. > :11:36.was the hope for today's peace talks with ebbs had of the Assad

:11:37. > :11:44.Government and Syrian opposition in Geneva. But it didn't happen. The

:11:45. > :11:50.two sides "might" we're told, meet face-to-face tomorrow. We talk to

:11:51. > :11:53.Doucet oucet, after she explains how we have -- Lyse Doucet, after she

:11:54. > :11:59.explains how we have reached this point. Tomorrow we expect, we have

:12:00. > :12:04.agreed that we will meet in the same room. It may not sound like much,

:12:05. > :12:07.but in Syria's brutal conflict, getting warring sides to sit in the

:12:08. > :12:12.same room in Geneva counts as progress. Even the UN's veteran

:12:13. > :12:19.trouble shooter wasn't certain it would even happen. REPORTER: So if

:12:20. > :12:24.in one sentence I could ask you, do you have the definite agreement of

:12:25. > :12:28.the two parties to sit together tomorrow? Thank you. That is a very

:12:29. > :12:32.good question. Yeah. It has taken him three days of shuttling between

:12:33. > :12:38.delegations of the Government and the opposition just to get that

:12:39. > :12:44.sorted. That arm-twisting behind the scenes came as soon as the cermonial

:12:45. > :12:49.opening to these historic peace talks ended in Montreux on Thursday.

:12:50. > :12:53.More than 20 countries gathered to call for peace, including the

:12:54. > :12:58.players supporting rival sides, except one of President Assad's main

:12:59. > :13:03.backers, Iran, it still hasn't signed up to the document that

:13:04. > :13:06.underpins the process. It is called Geneva I, a reference to a meeting

:13:07. > :13:11.18 months ago when world powers agreed on this Road Map for peace

:13:12. > :13:15.talks. It called for the formation of a transitional governing body, a

:13:16. > :13:19.national dialogue, the review of the constitution and the legal system.

:13:20. > :13:24.And the holding of free and fair elections. Transition is a

:13:25. > :13:30.diplomatic way to say President Assad must go. His delegation

:13:31. > :13:35.insists that's not on the agenda. The opposition says then there is no

:13:36. > :13:40.point to peace talks. In a country shatrd by war, where half the

:13:41. > :13:46.population needs aid, and many are starving, there is a lot more to

:13:47. > :13:51.discuss. They may start by focussing on issues like ending the siege in

:13:52. > :13:56.some areas, and ending local ceasefires. But Syria's most

:13:57. > :14:02.powerful opposition force, including Islamist groups linked to Al-Qaeda,

:14:03. > :14:04.aren't in Geneva. Today the representative said peace talks were

:14:05. > :14:10.about nothing less than saving Syria. That may be the only

:14:11. > :14:14.certainty in this process. Here is Lyse Doucet, who has been

:14:15. > :14:16.following every twist and turn of the negotiations to tell us the

:14:17. > :14:22.latest. Do you think they will sit in the same room tomorrow? Maybe.

:14:23. > :14:26.Even if they do they have made it clear they won't talk directly to

:14:27. > :14:34.each other, they will talk only through the UN envoy Mr Brahimi,

:14:35. > :14:37.they can't stand each other, even at the talks in front of the world's

:14:38. > :14:42.cameras, they described the opposition as evil, and accused them

:14:43. > :14:47.of incest and killing foetuses in the womb. The opposition calls the

:14:48. > :14:51.regime butchers and war criminal, that is what they say in public. In

:14:52. > :14:55.private they are more contemptuous. It is hard to imagine they will sit

:14:56. > :15:00.in the same room for very long. Why have they both turned up in Geneva?

:15:01. > :15:04.They both say they want peace. And the fact of the matter is and they

:15:05. > :15:10.will admit it in private, they have been pushed there. The moderator,

:15:11. > :15:14.with the west's backing, they have been told if they don't go to peace

:15:15. > :15:17.talks we will withdraw support from you. When I was in Montreux on

:15:18. > :15:20.Wednesday, someone from the Government said they don't want to

:15:21. > :15:23.be blamed for the failure of this process. Russia and Iran put

:15:24. > :15:27.pressure on the Government to go. And the fact of the matter is that

:15:28. > :15:31.the main forces, at least on the opposition side, want nothing to do

:15:32. > :15:37.with this. They have said anyone who sits at the table will be on their

:15:38. > :15:43.death list. What are the chances of some common ground at some points

:15:44. > :15:49.and by when? That's some point and that is a point very, very far in

:15:50. > :15:51.the distance. I think... Years? Definitely years. There was one of

:15:52. > :15:56.the lessons from the Northern Ireland peace process in which

:15:57. > :16:00.unless both sides understand that there is no military solution, that

:16:01. > :16:05.the military option is exhausted, only then do they sit down and talk.

:16:06. > :16:10.And neither side in Syria is anywhere near that recognition. They

:16:11. > :16:14.both believe they can gain ground on the battlefield. Even in the

:16:15. > :16:20.five-star hotel in Geneva where they are trying to get the talks started,

:16:21. > :16:24.the fighting continues and the it up humanitarian crisis continues. It

:16:25. > :16:28.has been described as the humanitarian crisis of our time and

:16:29. > :16:32.one of the worst wars. And it will continue in the short, medium and

:16:33. > :16:37.long-term? Seeing them in Geneva sends a small signal that at some

:16:38. > :16:46.point they will have to sit down and talk. But so far they are talking

:16:47. > :16:50.about talking about talks. If Mr Brahimi can get some talk about

:16:51. > :16:54.easing the siege that either side won't use food in the war or let

:16:55. > :16:59.women and children suffer, that would be seen as progress, that

:17:00. > :17:06.can't come too soon for the millions of Syrians suffering in this war.

:17:07. > :17:12.The political crisis in Ukraine deepened further today as protests

:17:13. > :17:17.spread from the embattled apital Kiev to yet more cities.

:17:18. > :17:20.Demonstrations began two months ago after President Yanukovychian

:17:21. > :17:24.decided to pull out of a landmark treaty with the European Union. The

:17:25. > :17:27.Ukrainian people are no strangers to protest, they have been taking to

:17:28. > :17:32.the streets in one way or another for the past ten years. This is the

:17:33. > :17:35.first time they have turned deadly. Two demonstrators were shot dead

:17:36. > :17:41.during clashes in Kiev earlier this week. And what's emerging now, are

:17:42. > :17:45.stories of horrific brutality and intimidation, away from the main

:17:46. > :17:53.squares. And as we report, some believe the state is behind that

:17:54. > :18:01.violence. Central Kiev has become a fortress

:18:02. > :18:05.of defiance. A citadel of barricades, of burnt out buses and

:18:06. > :18:13.of sandbags, stuffed with ice and snow. A car mechanic sprinkles met

:18:14. > :18:17.toll on a pile of -- petrol on a pile of tyres to keep the riot

:18:18. > :18:20.police at bay. During the orange revolution, a decade ago now,

:18:21. > :18:25.Ukrainians showed the world that bad Government could be removed without

:18:26. > :18:32.violence. But this week protestors were killed. So now they are

:18:33. > :18:37.impro-sizing, making catapults and other medieval weaponry, out of

:18:38. > :18:42.whatever they could find. This could kill something and it could change

:18:43. > :18:47.the dynamic? People kill us, and so what. These people kill us. These

:18:48. > :18:52.are Molotov cocktail, we have seen hundreds of them, hidden in the

:18:53. > :18:58.tyres behind the final barricade. Beyond it wait the police, freezing

:18:59. > :19:03.cold and nervous. This feels different now, much more serious,

:19:04. > :19:08.much more menacing. The police and the protestors are just metres away

:19:09. > :19:13.from each other and now there have been casualties on both sides. This

:19:14. > :19:19.feels like a stand-off at the moment with no obvious way out. Away from

:19:20. > :19:23.the overt antagonism of the barricades the battle is taking on a

:19:24. > :19:28.more sinister and perhaps more brutal character. In the early hours

:19:29. > :19:33.of Tuesday morning ignore was abducted and savagely beaten. He had

:19:34. > :19:38.driven to hospital with a fellow activist Uri, who had been injured

:19:39. > :19:41.during the protests. Before they could get treatment they were

:19:42. > :19:45.bundled into the back of a van by a group of unidentified men. They

:19:46. > :19:52.brought us to the forest, they put us on the ground and they started to

:19:53. > :20:01.ask and beat, ask and beat. From there style I realised that they do

:20:02. > :20:06.that like all the time. They were very experienced. Igor believes the

:20:07. > :20:10.men who abducted them were acting with at least the tacit approval of

:20:11. > :20:15.the state to intimidate the protestors? It will show the face of

:20:16. > :20:25.people who have power in Ukraine. That they use such very method, very

:20:26. > :20:30.criminal methods on pressing on the protestors. After being beaten and

:20:31. > :20:36.interrogated, bound and hooded for almost 24 hours, Igor was separated

:20:37. > :20:47.from Uri, and dumped in the forest, left for dead. Even with his dad

:20:48. > :20:51.low-injured leg, Iing I managed to drag himself out and to safety, not

:20:52. > :20:56.so Uri, he may have been unconscious or unable to walk any further.

:20:57. > :21:04.Whatever the case is 24 hours or so later his dead body was found in

:21:05. > :21:11.these woods, frozen solid. Uri was a father, 51 years old, a size

:21:12. > :21:17.pollingist -- seismologist and keen sportsman. His brother told me the

:21:18. > :21:23.death certificate, it gives cause of death as hypo hermia. His face was

:21:24. > :21:27.covered in bruises, he told me, after visiting the morgue, he

:21:28. > :21:31.couldn't bring himself to look at the rest of his brother's body. The

:21:32. > :21:36.Government has denied responsibility for any of the deaths that have

:21:37. > :21:41.occurred since Sunday, and says it is battling extremists and

:21:42. > :21:47.terrorists among the protestors. But on Independence Square, activists

:21:48. > :21:52.say that Igor and Uri's abduction is part of a growing pattern, the

:21:53. > :21:55.pattern of a state losing control. People are disappearing, we have

:21:56. > :22:01.dozens of claims of that, we have dozens of claims that people are

:22:02. > :22:05.attacked or beaten in the street by undefined persons. If they are not

:22:06. > :22:10.policemen, who are they and who controls them? If they are not the

:22:11. > :22:16.policemen, it is not excluded that we shouldn't admit they are well

:22:17. > :22:18.trained and well equipped and acting with the security at the end of the

:22:19. > :22:23.police. With the knowledge of the authorities? With the knowledge of

:22:24. > :22:28.the authorities, definitely. As night ball falls the temperature

:22:29. > :22:35.plummet to below minus 20, protestors will stay out here all

:22:36. > :22:39.night, warming themselves with free cups of borche. They talk of taking

:22:40. > :22:47.back a country that's been hijacked by a corrupt elite. TRANSLATION:

:22:48. > :22:53.Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. This man has been stirring

:22:54. > :22:58.this pot of borche every night for almost two nights. He and his fellow

:22:59. > :23:02.protestors effectively now control the centre of Ukraine's capital.

:23:03. > :23:09.They say they will stick it out to the bitter end.

:23:10. > :23:14.Imagine working for an organisation where you were positively encouraged

:23:15. > :23:17.to try new things and be responsibly ir esponsible. And if you failed

:23:18. > :23:22.then you were positively encouraged to try again. And again. Place where

:23:23. > :23:27.you weren't hauled over the coals when things went wrong, because even

:23:28. > :23:30.if you failed it meant you were experimenting, and taking risks was

:23:31. > :23:36.a good thing. Our technology editor has been to meet Dr Astro Teller,

:23:37. > :23:41.whose job title is Captain of Moonshots at the tech giant Google's

:23:42. > :23:47.top-secret research centre in San Jose, known as Google X. Real

:23:48. > :23:50.failure is trying something, learning it doesn't work and then

:23:51. > :23:55.continuing to do it any way. That's my definition of failure. One of the

:23:56. > :24:00.reasons we don't talk to the press more is I'm concerned that it comes

:24:01. > :24:04.off, not as a genuine attempt to have a conversation, but as some

:24:05. > :24:10.GIEND of arrogance on our part that we think we can solve the world's

:24:11. > :24:14.problems. We say how could we make things, not just a little better,

:24:15. > :24:20.but a lot better for a lot of people. Maybe we won't succeed but

:24:21. > :24:25.let's aspire to that. You get a lot of people want to work

:24:26. > :24:29.here? If I tell you, you can come here and be the best possible

:24:30. > :24:32.version of yourself, that I want you to create and take risk, I will get

:24:33. > :24:37.the best people, because everybody wants to do that. And then, because

:24:38. > :24:43.I get the best people we're going to make more progress per dollar than

:24:44. > :24:50.if I had tried to put the screws down on you and make sure you didn't

:24:51. > :24:54.mess around. I'm asking them to be responsibly irresponsible. I'm

:24:55. > :25:01.asking for each of the projects that we are working on, for each of the

:25:02. > :25:07.groups to explore, to take risks, to run experiments, to learn from those

:25:08. > :25:14.things and then repeat. And doing that really productively is

:25:15. > :25:20.uncomfortable. Wearing a tie, "I value you at our organisation Bob",

:25:21. > :25:25.it is not like that. The hierarchy is almost non-existent. I spend most

:25:26. > :25:29.of my time trying to be a coach. It is like being President of the World

:25:30. > :25:33.in a way. You get to pick the world's problem. What problem are we

:25:34. > :25:37.going to solve today or try to solve? That is what I was saying.

:25:38. > :25:43.That picking the problem is actually a lot of what's hard about it. So

:25:44. > :25:47.what problem would you pick? Sincerely, we worry about this all

:25:48. > :25:51.the time that we are not picking the right problems. You said TV, that is

:25:52. > :25:56.a good one. That's not the one I would pick, that's the one I would

:25:57. > :26:00.pick for my job. But you pick the ones, water, in the world, that is

:26:01. > :26:06.what Bill Gates is doing. Getting people fresh and clean water? So it

:26:07. > :26:10.turns out that clean water he, degeneration of clean water is not a

:26:11. > :26:15.totally solved, but a relatively solved problem. It is actually the

:26:16. > :26:23.corruption problem. I think being afraid to fail is almost a guarantee

:26:24. > :26:31.of glass ceiling on the success that can be achieved. If I tell you that

:26:32. > :26:36.you must make at least 10% progress over the next year he will only make

:26:37. > :26:44.10% progress. There is no chance that you will be 10-times as good,

:26:45. > :26:47.on any front a year from now. Independent of which company you

:26:48. > :26:51.are, what you are working on, there is zero chance. This is the best

:26:52. > :26:55.company in the world, you better succeed, you better make every

:26:56. > :27:00.effort and win, and you have got to succeed, if you don't succeed you

:27:01. > :27:03.are out? Yeah, I suppose that's how they could run it, but that is not

:27:04. > :27:09.what they do. It is part of what they do. It is not what they are

:27:10. > :27:13.good at, honestly. It takes a lot of emotional intensity and a special

:27:14. > :27:17.kind of skill to be able to fire people effectively. That is not a

:27:18. > :27:21.skill that Google has developed. If we expect a viper's pit of

:27:22. > :27:25.politicalness, that is what we are going to get. And if we just don't

:27:26. > :27:29.tolerate politics, if that's what counts as failing, if that's what

:27:30. > :27:35.counts as looking stupid. If enough of us drive transparency in the

:27:36. > :27:40.organisation, we try to act when any of us tries to act political it will

:27:41. > :27:46.just look ugly and embarrassing, and you won't do it any more. You don't

:27:47. > :27:50.have to stay with your manager if you don't want. If you are done with

:27:51. > :27:56.the project you are on, you can go to a different part of Google. You

:27:57. > :28:00.don't have to have your manager's permission. The result is, if your

:28:01. > :28:03.manager an asshole, not only will you leave but everyone will leave,

:28:04. > :28:11.you know what that guy will find himself having been voted off the

:28:12. > :28:16.island by his own people. In a very bottoms up, very soft power kind of

:28:17. > :28:21.way, people who aren't friendly, who aren't good managers get voted off

:28:22. > :28:24.the island. If you feel stupid, if I make you feel stupid because you

:28:25. > :28:29.tried something new and it didn't work out, you are never going to try

:28:30. > :28:32.something new again. But if I create a culture, if we can create a

:28:33. > :28:36.culture together where you feel stupid because you haven't tried

:28:37. > :28:41.something new this week, you're going to try something new every

:28:42. > :28:45.week. You have a lot of buildings? Quite a few, yeah. Wonderful, is

:28:46. > :28:51.this where we say goodbye then? Sure. That was Astro Telle. Time for

:28:52. > :28:53.a quick look at tomorrow's newspaper, the Guardian's lead

:28:54. > :29:50.story: That's all for tonight. We leave you

:29:51. > :30:05.with a beautiful film by Rino Stefano Tagliafierro called Enigma

:30:06. > :30:12.of Beauty. Anwar animated film of the Old Masters.