:00:00. > :00:16.conditions. Mind you, it all adds up to the annual intrigue that is the
:00:17. > :00:16.Masters. in a courtroom in Pretoria. Another
:00:17. > :02:40.session in a courtroom in Pretoria. Another
:02:41. > :02:40.millions of viewers. Today the prosecution asked Oscar Pistorius
:02:41. > :02:46.why he prosecution asked Oscar Pistorius
:02:47. > :02:56.coming from the bathroom. When you heard the narcs you
:02:57. > :02:56.coming from the bathroom. When you discuss the noise with her. You
:02:57. > :03:16.didn't say "Reeva did discuss the noise with her. You
:03:17. > :03:16.not. Viewers are left with pictures broadcast instead of the images of
:03:17. > :03:22.him. broadcast instead of the images of
:03:23. > :03:29.feel unfamiliar and uncomfortable. But audience interest is high. The
:03:30. > :03:33.BBC has been showing live testimony every day, as has Sky which has
:03:34. > :03:38.broadcast an evening highlights programme. Foreign news, in general,
:03:39. > :03:42.tends to attract lower ratings, but the mix of celebrity and dramatic
:03:43. > :03:46.court footage has made this one of the few exceptions.
:03:47. > :03:53.The first case to get this global exposure involved another sportsman.
:03:54. > :03:57.The OJ Simpson trial made stars of the lawyers involved. The gloves
:03:58. > :04:04.don't fit, do you understand that, don't fit. We have seen the
:04:05. > :04:08.televised soap opera that was the Amanda Knox trial. And in the Hague
:04:09. > :04:15.the conviction of Charles Taylor, but that also involves an element of
:04:16. > :04:19.celebrity at times. The man questioning Naomi Campbell in that
:04:20. > :04:24.courtroom said it is inevitable that fully televised trials will one day
:04:25. > :04:27.reach our shores. I think it is a very good idea. One has to realise
:04:28. > :04:33.that the courtroom in a sense belongs to the public at large. The
:04:34. > :04:37.jury are there as our representatives, and it seems to me
:04:38. > :04:42.that it is important that the public see how the process operates, I
:04:43. > :04:47.think it is important in democratic society that the law is seen in
:04:48. > :04:52.operation to its full extent. And not just the snippets which are
:04:53. > :04:58.currently available in the press or on the 6.00 News. So far attempted
:04:59. > :05:03.to film inside British courts have been very limited. The outcome of
:05:04. > :05:07.cases at the Supreme Court and some limited Appeal Court sessions have
:05:08. > :05:12.been shown, but this is hardly the OJ Simpson trial. The kind of dry
:05:13. > :05:17.judgments and verdicts shown in courts like this one are, let's face
:05:18. > :05:20.it, never going to be a huge box-office attraction, it is clearly
:05:21. > :05:26.large criminal trials, like the Pistorius case, which broadcasters
:05:27. > :05:29.would dearly love to see on screen. We are starting to see that happen.
:05:30. > :05:33.Last year cameras were allowed inside a murder trial for the first
:05:34. > :05:37.time in Edinburgh, where Scottish law leaves the decision to film up
:05:38. > :05:44.to the judge. Under plans for England and Wales the judge's
:05:45. > :05:48.sentencing remarks could be filmed, many barristers are wary of going
:05:49. > :05:54.any further. The public will get to see select pieces of the trial, bits
:05:55. > :05:57.and pieces that are salacious, that shows who broadcast want to focus
:05:58. > :06:01.on. They will get a selective idea of the trial, if we're not careful
:06:02. > :06:07.we are going to find there is going to be trial by public and in days of
:06:08. > :06:11.social media the storm that can create from an imbalanced view of
:06:12. > :06:17.the trial might infect the justice system. An example of transparent
:06:18. > :06:20.justice, or a media circus, the Pistorius trial shows there is a
:06:21. > :06:25.huge appetite for this time of reality television. Whether it is a
:06:26. > :06:30.healthy appetite is another matter. With us now is the barrister and
:06:31. > :06:34.presenter, Clive Anderson, who is in favour of cameras in court. And
:06:35. > :06:39.Julian Young a solicitor advocate who thinks they turn courtrooms into
:06:40. > :06:43.a circus. There is a circus in the Pistorius case as an example, do you
:06:44. > :06:47.really want to see that kind of thing in this country? Yes, it is a
:06:48. > :06:51.gripping but grizzly trial, I would like to see how the trial is going
:06:52. > :06:54.on. At the end of the case there will be a decision and verdict. In
:06:55. > :06:58.this case it is a judge with her two assessors, in an English trial it
:06:59. > :07:08.would be woo likely to be -- would likely to be a jury. We would like a
:07:09. > :07:17.notion will have we would agree with it or justice. What is so wrong with
:07:18. > :07:19.it? It sensationalises and trivialises something where a person
:07:20. > :07:24.could lose their liberty or good name. Even if they are acquitted the
:07:25. > :07:27.idea of no smoke without fire, if whoever watches it sees the
:07:28. > :07:31.highlights and decides I think he's guilty and it doesn't matter what
:07:32. > :07:35.the jury thought, and goes out and tries to exact revenge. There are
:07:36. > :07:37.people who are vulnerable. Witnesses who have never given evidence before
:07:38. > :07:42.who don't want to give evidence. There are people who may want to
:07:43. > :07:47.grandstand, they could be lawyers, a judge, or the defendant or the
:07:48. > :07:50.defendant's friends in the public gallery, to cut that off
:07:51. > :07:56.unexpectedly gives a false impression of what is really going
:07:57. > :07:59.on. In a sense what we already see in the newspapers and reports, they
:08:00. > :08:03.are already an edited version of what has happened. What would be so
:08:04. > :08:06.different about this perhaps it would be better because people will
:08:07. > :08:12.be able to watch proceedings live and uncut? Who wants to sit and
:08:13. > :08:15.watch, for example, an expert give evidence, highly technical evidence,
:08:16. > :08:19.maybe for several hours and be cross-examined, it doesn't tell you
:08:20. > :08:23.how the system works, the standard of proof, the burden of proof, the
:08:24. > :08:30.responsibility of the judge and the jury. It would be so boring. That
:08:31. > :08:35.bit doesn't tell you but the rest of it does. Juries go along -- jurors
:08:36. > :08:38.go along thinking it is like trials in American films, there will be
:08:39. > :08:42.advocates walking up and down asking questions, there will be objections
:08:43. > :08:47.sustained, at the very least you might concede this will be an
:08:48. > :08:50.educative process for potential jurors to see how the courtrooms
:08:51. > :08:53.work. You can have education as a mock trial and education for
:08:54. > :08:56.children in schools about what happens to a Crown Court. You do
:08:57. > :09:01.mock trials but you show it to dozens of people at a time, this is
:09:02. > :09:03.for millions of people to see. They will not see what is actually
:09:04. > :09:12.happening all the time, they don't sit from a whole period of time from
:09:13. > :09:18.10-1, from 2-4. 30, from beginning to end, they would be bored out of
:09:19. > :09:23.their minds. Can I raise a point about televising parliament, from
:09:24. > :09:28.1975 they put radio microphones into the House of Lords, it took until
:09:29. > :09:33.1990s for the House of Commons to say OK. Young viewers must be
:09:34. > :09:38.thinking not having cameras in parliament, you mean Prime
:09:39. > :09:40.Minister's Question Time went on without the public. All these same
:09:41. > :09:46.questions were raised about parliament. How many people watch
:09:47. > :09:49.BBC Parliament, relatively view. Many, many people it could be, but
:09:50. > :09:54.there is a very important point, does it not risk people changing
:09:55. > :09:57.their behaviour in a way that politicians change their behaviour
:09:58. > :10:01.when there is a camera around. People all behave differently when
:10:02. > :10:05.there are cameras around. Couldn't that affect the outcome of the case?
:10:06. > :10:09.There is a point there. Those things were said about MPs in parents I
:10:10. > :10:10.don't think anybody can now say whether MPs' behaviour has got
:10:11. > :10:21.better or worse. This is the justice system not rowdy
:10:22. > :10:28.debate. Lots of other countries do this. Louis Woodward was an English
:10:29. > :10:31.nanny on trial in America, Boston, Massachusetts, there was some doubts
:10:32. > :10:35.about how fair the trial was. As a result there was a lot of interest.
:10:36. > :10:39.If she had been on trial in Boston Lincolnshire we would have never
:10:40. > :10:43.have seen it or had the interest, and she would have spent rather
:10:44. > :10:48.longer in prison than she had to. Would you say that an American case
:10:49. > :10:53.like that, or in the South African justice system, would you contend
:10:54. > :10:56.their systems don't work or are as good as our's because they have
:10:57. > :10:59.allowed a camera in? It is whether or not you can educate the public
:11:00. > :11:02.what are you going to tell and teach them. And the dangers that may flow
:11:03. > :11:07.from the public seeing something. Lith let's take a defendant who has
:11:08. > :11:11.a difficult personal -- let's take a defendant who has a very difficult
:11:12. > :11:14.personal life, the young Mr kiss President Chiracs he has social
:11:15. > :11:18.disadvantages and he's disabled, if other inmates in a prison got to
:11:19. > :11:22.watch that on television and realise he's weak f he's convicted and sent
:11:23. > :11:26.to prison, especially in this country where prisoners are quite
:11:27. > :11:29.often very cruel, the danger would be they would pick upon that person,
:11:30. > :11:35.having been put into the prison system. Are you just not rummaging
:11:36. > :11:43.around for reasons not to make a change. I'm frightened of "Legal
:11:44. > :11:46.Idol" a television spectacle, where you can vote for a guilty or not
:11:47. > :11:49.guilty verdict. I don't think that is appropriate, the judge and the
:11:50. > :11:53.jury will still take the decision, it is just, it is are a public place
:11:54. > :11:56.a courtroom, as it is there is a public gallery, if people want to
:11:57. > :11:59.interfere with witnesses or find out about defendants they can be there
:12:00. > :12:03.any way. It is reported in the papers. If they are that interested
:12:04. > :12:08.they can go to court and watch the real thing without it being
:12:09. > :12:12.televised. Television is not real. It is in another dimension. It is a
:12:13. > :12:16.bit more immediate than waiting for Clive Coleman to come out on to the
:12:17. > :12:19.street and say there was nasty question asked there and there was
:12:20. > :12:24.hesitation. We want to see the actual process. Just very briefly to
:12:25. > :12:27.both of you. Do you think, given the way the flow of information is
:12:28. > :12:30.speeding up all the time, anybody walking down the street with a
:12:31. > :12:34.smartphone can take a picture and tweet what they like about who they
:12:35. > :12:37.see outside the Old Bailey or anywhere else, do you think actually
:12:38. > :12:41.you will be able to hold the line, this is going to happen one day
:12:42. > :12:44.isn't it? It may happen one day, but there will have to be a lot of
:12:45. > :12:48.checks and balances to make sure it is completely fair and there are no
:12:49. > :12:52.dangers to the concept of justice. I think it will happen one day and in
:12:53. > :12:56.ten years' time we will play back this conversation and think how
:12:57. > :13:01.backward-looking I was, you can tweet from court now, has allowed
:13:02. > :13:04.ahead of televising it. We will keep care of this tape of this discussion
:13:05. > :13:07.tonight and have a look in a decade's time. Thank you very much
:13:08. > :13:10.for coming in. More official diplomatic wrangling
:13:11. > :13:13.is planned for Ukraine. The European Union confirmed in the last few
:13:14. > :13:17.hours there will be a meeting between Russia, Ukraine, the United
:13:18. > :13:24.States and the EU in Geneva next Thursday. But talking hasn't exactly
:13:25. > :13:29.done much so far. NATO nowadays 40,000 Russian troops have been
:13:30. > :13:39.moved to Ukraine's borders. Its secretary-general, has urged Russia
:13:40. > :13:48.to pull back. I think it should be that Russia pulls back its troops
:13:49. > :13:55.and contributes to a de-escalation of the situation. Our diplomatic
:13:56. > :13:59.editor is with us now. What evidence has NATO got for the troops all
:14:00. > :14:03.massing up on the boarder in a rather menacing way? It has been
:14:04. > :14:09.going on for a few weeks. There have been open source things in the
:14:10. > :14:12.Russian media. But the latest is the release of these pictures. NATO has
:14:13. > :14:17.got these from commercial satellites, it is not the American
:14:18. > :14:22.big bird that looks down. These are commercial low-operated --
:14:23. > :14:27.commercial low-operated satellites, they have shown a picture of an
:14:28. > :14:31.airfield to the north-east of ucreate. You look at that and think
:14:32. > :14:36.you can't see much there. If you go right in on the boxed areas
:14:37. > :14:41.highlight bid the NATO analyst, you can see on the left of frame the
:14:42. > :14:46.darker shapes, the fighters, on the right the lighter shapes the
:14:47. > :14:50.bombers. NATO said there was no planes at all at this airfield a few
:14:51. > :14:58.months ago before the crisis blew up. Another example, what NATO says
:14:59. > :15:02.is a Russian motor rifle regiment, that is several thousand men. You
:15:03. > :15:07.can see the armoureded vehicles neatly lined up on the left of frame
:15:08. > :15:11.and long lines of trucks and other so called B-vehicles on the right.
:15:12. > :15:15.Russia said the pictures were taken months ago. NATO has counted, anyone
:15:16. > :15:19.can look at this commercial eptity, digital globe and look at these
:15:20. > :15:22.pictures for themselves and establish when they were taken. It
:15:23. > :15:25.shows the difficulties of using intelligence evidence to make a
:15:26. > :15:29.political case. Absolutely, should we be alarmed by seeing these images
:15:30. > :15:32.and now there are going to be more talks, what can we expect to happen
:15:33. > :15:38.next? I think interestingly we have seen statements today from Sergei
:15:39. > :15:42.Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister and the acting Prime Minister of
:15:43. > :15:47.Ukraine that show the two sides squaring up before these talks. We
:15:48. > :15:51.get a pretty clear idea now that Russia's agenda is to get this
:15:52. > :15:56.interim Ukrainian Government to agree to constitutional changes that
:15:57. > :16:00.will give this area where the pro--Putin, Russian demonstrators in
:16:01. > :16:06.the east and south of Ukraine have taken buildings and steps, it will
:16:07. > :16:10.give them considerable autonomy. The Russian agenda before the elections
:16:11. > :16:17.plan for May 25th is lock in constitutional change to give those
:16:18. > :16:21.areas a veto over any area closer to the EU or NATO.
:16:22. > :16:25.Thank you very much indeed. Now the world's biggest election looks
:16:26. > :16:33.likely to be won by a politician who boasts of a humble small town
:16:34. > :16:39.background. He's the favourite to beat the latest son of the Gandhi
:16:40. > :16:50.dynasty. His own history is hardly without question. He was in charge
:16:51. > :16:54.of gut Gujarat province after 1,000 Muslims were killed. Although it was
:16:55. > :17:04.not proven he looked the other way, many have warned against him taking
:17:05. > :17:09.charge. India, the world's largest democracy and home to more than one.
:17:10. > :17:13.Two billion people. It is one of the fastest-growing economies in the
:17:14. > :17:19.world. Yet 400 million people live on less than a pound a day. It is
:17:20. > :17:27.sending missions to Mars, whilst a quarter of households in the capital
:17:28. > :17:31.don't have a regular water supply. It is a nuclear-armed major
:17:32. > :17:38.political player. Predicted to be the world's third-largest economy by
:17:39. > :17:46.2030. That is a why who leads this country is so important. If you
:17:47. > :17:54.believe the polls so far this is likely to be the country's next
:17:55. > :18:06.leader. The deeply controversial and devisive, head of the BJP. He's
:18:07. > :18:11.credited with turning around the economy in his area, and given rise
:18:12. > :18:16.to Modi mania. He's the man many hold responsible of allowing the
:18:17. > :18:22.massacre of 1,000 people, mostly Muslim, in riots in Gujarat in 2002.
:18:23. > :18:28.They started after a fire broke out on a train carrying Hindu pilgrim,
:18:29. > :18:33.killing 60 people. Local Muslims were blamed and Hindus caught
:18:34. > :18:38.revenge. He stands accused of failing to stop the bloodshed and
:18:39. > :18:42.even encouraging the violence. He's always denied the claims and an
:18:43. > :18:47.investigation cleared him. What happens in India is also being
:18:48. > :18:51.keenly watched by the one. Four million British Indians living here
:18:52. > :18:55.in the UK. He remains as controversial here as he does in
:18:56. > :19:01.India. Writing in today's Guardian, well known British Indians like
:19:02. > :19:06.Salman Rushdie, have said an India under him would be bad news for all
:19:07. > :19:12.Indians. But after ten years of rule by a weakened Congress Party, voters
:19:13. > :19:18.are ready for a change. His supporters say an India with him at
:19:19. > :19:23.the helm would mean a stronger, more decisive and economically robust
:19:24. > :19:28.potential superpower. If he comes to power, it will be a right-ward shift
:19:29. > :19:34.in the politics of the country. That's very, very clear. That is why
:19:35. > :19:40.corporate India is totally backing him. We may well have a Government
:19:41. > :19:46.that will want to open up the economy, maybe much more than it has
:19:47. > :19:49.and invite foreign direct investment, maybe it will mean more
:19:50. > :19:56.political stability than we have seen in the last four or five years.
:19:57. > :20:01.The key question for many Indians is whether he will be able to unite
:20:02. > :20:10.this hugely diverse country, and make the most of its enormous
:20:11. > :20:16.economic potential. With us now is the chairman of Cobra beer speaking
:20:17. > :20:21.to us from India. With us in the studio is a member of the Black
:20:22. > :20:26.Sisters, one of the signatories for a letter of many cultural and
:20:27. > :20:32.artistic figures raising concerns about the man. Thank you for joining
:20:33. > :20:39.us. Even here in Britain many people are concerned about Modi as being a
:20:40. > :20:50.devisive figure. You can't deny he could potentially divide the
:20:51. > :20:55.country, can you? We are witnessing the world's largest directions, 800
:20:56. > :20:59.million voters, we went to a polling station and I saw electronic voting
:21:00. > :21:04.that we don't have in the UK, working brilliantly, and it is the
:21:05. > :21:11.Indian population engaging, there are turnouts in India of 66%, 67%,
:21:12. > :21:15.it was absolutely marvellous to see democracy in action. Indian
:21:16. > :21:20.democracy has worked in the past. When the BJP were in Government in
:21:21. > :21:23.2004, it was the India Shining Government, they created a lot of
:21:24. > :21:26.economic reforms, but they were not able to get re-elected and the
:21:27. > :21:30.Congress Party had been in Government for the past ten years.
:21:31. > :21:36.Now there seems to be a sentiment on the ground here in India that people
:21:37. > :21:41.want change and overall whoever I talk to there seems to be a
:21:42. > :21:46.consensus that Modi is most probably going to be the Prime Minister with
:21:47. > :21:53.the BJP possibly getting over 200 seats and with their Alliance
:21:54. > :21:57.partners getting over the 272 required to form a majority
:21:58. > :22:01.Government. It does seem as if he will be the next leader of the
:22:02. > :22:05.country. But he is devisive, there are suspicions about whether he
:22:06. > :22:11.looked the other way when those terrible riots in gunge Gujarat took
:22:12. > :22:17.place, do you accept there are concerns about his record? There is
:22:18. > :22:22.no question that he was very soon after he took over as chief minister
:22:23. > :22:27.of Gujarat, where he has been elected three times, soon after he
:22:28. > :22:31.became chief minister these awful, awful atrocities took place, which
:22:32. > :22:38.didn't just shock India but the world. Overall these years, over ten
:22:39. > :22:42.years, when his opponents have been in power, has not been convicted and
:22:43. > :22:46.Britain did not have relations with Gujarat as the founding chair of the
:22:47. > :22:51.UK Business Council, I was not allowed to take delegations to
:22:52. > :22:57.Gujarat. In 2012 Britain decided to reopen its links with Gujarat
:22:58. > :23:05.through the British Foreign Minister Hugo Swire, since 2012 we have had
:23:06. > :23:09.relations with him because he has not been convicted of anything. The
:23:10. > :23:15.courts have looked at it and it looks like he will win fairly and
:23:16. > :23:21.squarely in a vast exercise of democracy? I think he will be very,
:23:22. > :23:25.very dangerous, he poses a serious threat to the secular fabric of
:23:26. > :23:33.Indian democracy. The very democracy that Lord Villimoria praises for
:23:34. > :23:41.functions is the very democracy that he poses a threat to. He and his RSS
:23:42. > :23:45.and his Hindu right, nationalist, supremacist party that he belongs to
:23:46. > :23:51.pose a real threat because of the very ideolgical framework from which
:23:52. > :23:55.they operate. This idea that we can praise Indian democracy for
:23:56. > :24:02.functioning without looking at where the threats to that democracy is
:24:03. > :24:07.coming from is simply niave What is it, you say his ideas are a threat,
:24:08. > :24:12.which ideas and why? He was shaped and nutured by the RSS, which is a
:24:13. > :24:24.right-wing extremist Hindu supremacist party. A party whose
:24:25. > :24:34.members have actually admired German and Italian fascism, and those who
:24:35. > :24:40.assassinated Gandhi. The people who founded India had a vision of India
:24:41. > :24:48.as an incluesive, plural democracy and this is the very ideas that Moi
:24:49. > :24:52.and his aides, and his Hindu cohorts and aides are trying to destroy.
:24:53. > :24:57.They hide behind this idea that he has presided over an economic
:24:58. > :25:00.miracle in Gujarat, that is simply not true. Those are strong
:25:01. > :25:06.accusations to make about him. But many people do appear to have
:25:07. > :25:12.concerns about his views, will the British Government, should the
:25:13. > :25:19.British Government turn a blind eye to those concerns with regard to
:25:20. > :25:24.important trade with India? I don't think anyone is turning a blind eye,
:25:25. > :25:27.I think that where he's concerned and the BJP they will look back to
:25:28. > :25:31.that time when they were in Government ten years ago and they
:25:32. > :25:34.were not re-elected because it was seen they were not being inclusive
:25:35. > :25:39.enough with their policies, the India Shining, getting on to the
:25:40. > :25:44.growth path, and I require the growth rates hitting 8%. But unless
:25:45. > :25:47.it reached out and was inclusive they didn't get elected. The party
:25:48. > :25:53.in January, a party that didn't exist a year ago got elected to run
:25:54. > :25:58.the City of Delhi, the capital of India. It didn't last very long
:25:59. > :26:01.because it was unable to deliver. So Mohdi will be judged if he becomes
:26:02. > :26:14.Prime Minister on his ability to deliver. India is a secular and
:26:15. > :26:19.plurist country. Nobody can run it without recognising it is a secular
:26:20. > :26:22.country. It will be governance on the ground and excuse of the
:26:23. > :26:27.governance, that is what he will be judged off. He says he is man of
:26:28. > :26:31.action and he will encourage business and investment. The Gujarat
:26:32. > :26:36.community in the UK is a very important part of the UK. The Indian
:26:37. > :26:40.community in the UK contributes a huge amount to the UK economy. If it
:26:41. > :26:50.is good news for the UK and India and good economic news that will
:26:51. > :26:55.benefit both countries. We have been beaten by the clock, we must leave
:26:56. > :26:59.it there. Perhaps when I'm famous and my diary is discovered, people
:27:00. > :27:05.will understand the torment of being a 13 and three quarter-year-old
:27:06. > :27:12.undiscovered intellectual. Adrian Mol, he's fictional -- Mole's
:27:13. > :27:20.fictional diary was discovered and made its author, Sue Townend a
:27:21. > :27:24.fortune. She passed away yesterday. The spirit of 1980s suburban England
:27:25. > :27:29.leapt from her page, captured with a sometimes touching but often spiky
:27:30. > :27:41.accuracy. This report has been compiled by Stephen Smith, aged 39
:27:42. > :27:47.plus VAT! Just my luck. Spots on my chin for the first day of the new
:27:48. > :27:52.year. He counts his spots in front of the mirror, he keeps a chart. A
:27:53. > :27:57.spot chart. Sort of a record! He measures his ears with his geometry
:27:58. > :28:01.set to see how far they are sticking out this week. Measures other things
:28:02. > :28:07.as well? He does, that are below the belt, yes. There is a new girl in
:28:08. > :28:12.our council tax she sits next to me in geography, she's all right. Her
:28:13. > :28:21.name is Pandora, but she likes to be called Bogs. Don't ask me why.
:28:22. > :28:26.Adrian Mole was the hugist thing when I was younger, and every single
:28:27. > :28:30.person I have ever met has read it as well, they have had all had the
:28:31. > :28:34.same reaction, and it is like oh my God I'm Adrian Mole, I think I'm
:28:35. > :28:38.better than anybody else here, I have a destiny outside this estate,
:28:39. > :28:46.I see through grown-ups and what they are. She was born in 1946, she
:28:47. > :28:48.left school at 15, she married, had three kid, she was authentic. There
:28:49. > :28:56.is something she said that always struck me, she said "I am
:28:57. > :29:01.working-class". No matter how many Prada handbags she had, she would
:29:02. > :29:10.never forget what it was to be poor. She was poor. "I was given a glass
:29:11. > :29:16.of Bulls Wood wine and felt a grown up, I talked like a consumate
:29:17. > :29:21.professional for an hour and then my mother talked about a sniff of a
:29:22. > :29:25.cork". For ages I thought I could only write a book about feminism if
:29:26. > :29:31.I sit at the writing desk assay all the right words and do all the
:29:32. > :29:35.research. When I realised hi to -- I had to tell the story from a dick
:29:36. > :29:41.ebb teenage girl that book wrote itself. And the voice of me is How
:29:42. > :29:44.To Be A woman, is just Adrian Mole with at this times. One day I was
:29:45. > :29:50.sitting with one of my daughters watching the tele, and there was
:29:51. > :29:56.Mole, and the news item was the new cabinet, Thatcher's new cabinet and
:29:57. > :30:00.there was John Major! I thought I laughed and said that is Mole. To me
:30:01. > :30:08.Adrian Mole ended up running the country. "I have lived under Tory
:30:09. > :30:13.rule for most of my life, as dawn breaks, I predict that new Labour
:30:14. > :30:24.will scrape in with a tiny majority, possibly three." The Cappuccino
:30:25. > :30:33.Years about Mole at 30-and-a-half, and new Labour have just come to the
:30:34. > :30:37.power. The Cappuccino Years a metaphor for new Labour, a lot of
:30:38. > :30:45.froth and not much coffee. She was also rather good at sex. I think
:30:46. > :30:52.Pandora is Helen of Troy who ended up as a Blair babe. Those touches
:30:53. > :30:57.are really very delicate, people will turn back and see a social
:30:58. > :31:01.historical register. Tony Blair is dedicated to the principle of
:31:02. > :31:05.women's rights and the representation of women in top jobs
:31:06. > :31:13.in and out of politics. You know perfectly well it will be jobs for
:31:14. > :31:18.the boys as usual. Not if I can help it Jeremy! That is the most sexually
:31:19. > :31:24.arousing thing I have seen on television, since Barbarap Windsor
:31:25. > :31:29.lost her bra in Carry On Camping. People talk about the classic novels
:31:30. > :31:33.of the 1980s and Martin Amis, money, and that is the classic British
:31:34. > :31:37.novel I think the classic novel was written by a single mum who didn't
:31:38. > :31:41.go to university, and it is Adrian Mole, everything you need to know
:31:42. > :31:49.about Britain at that time. Flannel we hope you don't have to change the
:31:50. > :31:54.plans for the weekend. Reports have come in that schools are ending the
:31:55. > :31:59.practice of letting the children take home the bear at the weekend,
:32:00. > :32:02.because of parents vying to show the bear the most sophisticated time. By
:32:03. > :32:07.chance it was Newsnight's chance to look after a bear at the weekend, we
:32:08. > :32:10.wouldn't dream of trying to outdo anyone, I bet your weekend isn't as
:32:11. > :32:53.good as this. Getting cold out there largely clear
:32:54. > :32:54.skies across England and