:00:00. > :00:15.Iran, the Vatican and England, members of the elite club where the
:00:16. > :00:20.head of faith is also head of state. ??FORCEDWHI Could it be time to end
:00:21. > :00:24.all this? The deputy PM thinks so, the church doesn't. Look what we
:00:25. > :00:29.have in France, fanatical sec collateralism. In America, fanatical
:00:30. > :00:33.fundamentalism. Because we have the Church of England as the established
:00:34. > :00:38.church we, on the whole, have a rational, sensible approach to
:00:39. > :00:44.religion. We will be asking these two in that's right. Will Damon
:00:45. > :00:49.Albarn finally concede oasis were better than Blair. That is not a
:00:50. > :00:57.very grown-up question for Newsnight is it? I think Obeysies were better.
:00:58. > :01:07.-- obeysies were better. Doing God, as David Cameron proved
:01:08. > :01:12.in his Easter message can still spark a strong reaction of how about
:01:13. > :01:17.not doing God. The proposal from his deputy is separate church and state.
:01:18. > :01:23.Nick Clegg is a modern day Henry VII taking things a step too far. This
:01:24. > :01:28.is Terry untouched for 500 years since the age of the English
:01:29. > :01:32.reformation. Today our deputy leader questioned why is the head of state
:01:33. > :01:37.the head of faith. It leaves us in a club of three, the Vatican and Iran
:01:38. > :01:45.are strange bed fellows. Should the link be dissolved and would the link
:01:46. > :01:49.be lost if it was. There is very little that is more evocative of
:01:50. > :01:54.Englishness than a grand Anglican Church. But is it time for the
:01:55. > :01:58.Church of England to turn a little Welsh. 100 years ago this year Wales
:01:59. > :02:04.disestablished its national church, the church in Wales became a
:02:05. > :02:06.stand-alone body, the Queen isn't its head. Nick Clegg thinks the
:02:07. > :02:13.Church of England should follow suit. My personal view is in the
:02:14. > :02:16.long run having the state and the church basically bound up with each
:02:17. > :02:20.other, as we do in this country I think in the long run it would be
:02:21. > :02:23.better for the church and better for people of faith and better for
:02:24. > :02:28.Anglicans if the church and the state were, over time, to sort of
:02:29. > :02:31.stand on their own two, separate feet so to speak. You can say what
:02:32. > :02:44.you like about the Liberal Democrats, at least they are
:02:45. > :02:48.consistent, back then it was the question of liberty and state, these
:02:49. > :02:52.days it is more about whether or not the Anglican Church is still
:02:53. > :02:56.relevant. The last census saw a marked decline in people who saw
:02:57. > :03:00.themselves as Christian, and a rise in the number of people who declared
:03:01. > :03:05.no faith. Furthermore the last church census, which took place in
:03:06. > :03:09.2005 found that Anglicans had the same market share among active
:03:10. > :03:13.church goers as Catholics, they were no longer the biggest church, and
:03:14. > :03:20.Polish immigration in recent years means that Catholics are now almost
:03:21. > :03:26.certainly larger. Disestablishment would mean the 26 bishops who sit in
:03:27. > :03:32.the House of Lords, the so called Lords Spiritual, would lose their
:03:33. > :03:36.seats. The Queen would cease to be the head of the church, and the
:03:37. > :03:40.church might lose assets given to it by the state. But the argument about
:03:41. > :03:44.establishment goes to the heart of the question of what the church is
:03:45. > :03:47.for? I think it is important to realise the Church of England
:03:48. > :03:52.believes in establishment if it does not for its own ends, the church has
:03:53. > :03:56.lived and could live with disestablishment or anything. The
:03:57. > :03:59.church in Wales is disestablished and perked up. So long as the
:04:00. > :04:03.country as a whole feels it does in some way serve the common good both
:04:04. > :04:07.locally and nationally I think there is a strong case for the continuing
:04:08. > :04:11.establishment. But some people question whether the church is
:04:12. > :04:16.serving enough of the country to justify staying established. Before
:04:17. > :04:20.anybody had a right to get married, if they hadn't been married before
:04:21. > :04:27.in a Church of England church, and that is no longer the case, because
:04:28. > :04:31.of the gay marriage situation. Gay people can now get married in the
:04:32. > :04:35.eyes of the state, but they are excluded from church marriages. So
:04:36. > :04:41.now for the first time the church is no longer a church for the nation,
:04:42. > :04:44.so I think they have made a mistake over gay marriage. That has
:04:45. > :04:49.strengthened the case for disestablishment. Still this
:04:50. > :04:53.argument is likely to remain an academic one for some time to come.
:04:54. > :04:59.That's because, even though British people are a pretty irreligious lot,
:05:00. > :05:05.they do actually really quite like Christianity. And an international
:05:06. > :05:10.poll show that Britons have a much more positive view of Christians
:05:11. > :05:13.than other countries with similar levels of religious observance, it
:05:14. > :05:16.is rather close to the US, where around three-times as many people
:05:17. > :05:21.report religion playing a very important role in their life. One of
:05:22. > :05:24.the reasons disestablishment of the Church of England hasn't happened is
:05:25. > :05:27.it would take months and months of parliamentary time. You couldn't
:05:28. > :05:32.just do it overnight. In effect what we already have is a kind of
:05:33. > :05:36.creeping disestablishment. Gradually links are getting looser and looser
:05:37. > :05:39.in many respects, for example, over the appointment of bishops, the
:05:40. > :05:50.Prime Minister's role in that is much less than it was in the past.
:05:51. > :05:57.So, that century-old liberal party commitment will remain unfulfilled,
:05:58. > :06:01.however the marriage between state and church will shift and change,
:06:02. > :06:05.and perhaps one day we may wake up and realise the Monarch is the only
:06:06. > :06:10.thing that the Channel Tunnel and state have in common. Giles Fraser
:06:11. > :06:14.is a priest at St Mary's in Newington, and former canon of St
:06:15. > :06:17.Pauls, and we have the Speaker's chaplain to the House of Commons and
:06:18. > :06:22.chaplain to the Queen. Thank you very much both of you for coming in.
:06:23. > :06:25.The point made there Rose, is the church isn't serving enough of the
:06:26. > :06:30.country to really make this argument valid any more? That is a spurious
:06:31. > :06:35.argument, really, in particular seemed to be centered around the
:06:36. > :06:39.whole issue of gay marriage. Because the church isn't conducting gay
:06:40. > :06:44.marriages then it is not serving the rest of people. Just the numbers put
:06:45. > :06:47.there? The numbers in terms of the percentages of people. Two thirds of
:06:48. > :06:51.Christians aren't even Anglicans any more, you saw the growing numbers
:06:52. > :06:57.are those of no faith, not Christian faith? Do you know the reality, I'm
:06:58. > :07:04.not so sure about that. The reality is that in inner city areas, in
:07:05. > :07:09.rural areas, when the pub closes its doors, when the school closes its
:07:10. > :07:14.doors, when the supermarkets or the post offices are gone, the Church of
:07:15. > :07:20.England is the one institution that is still there and serving all the
:07:21. > :07:24.people in that community. Willing and open for everyone. That's
:07:25. > :07:28.brilliant but you don't need to have establishment in order to do T the
:07:29. > :07:31.problem with establishment is not that I think it is bad for the
:07:32. > :07:34.country, I think it might be good for the country. I think it is bad
:07:35. > :07:39.for the church. I think it is bad for the church, for us to be so
:07:40. > :07:43.close to the establishment. We cosy up to the establishment and it
:07:44. > :07:47.blunts our message. I think we are not free to be the church because we
:07:48. > :07:51.are too close to the powers that be and we quite like being too close to
:07:52. > :07:55.the powers that be. What would the church look like without that link?
:07:56. > :07:58.The church would be much freer, more like it is in the United States, it
:07:59. > :08:03.may grow and have more political influence, but it doesn't need to be
:08:04. > :08:07.there. I want it to be more political, I don't want the
:08:08. > :08:10.political links to be established links. I think the church is
:08:11. > :08:16.strangely less political. If I said to Rose, as her job as speaker, is
:08:17. > :08:21.there any MP whose political views you would publicly condemn? I
:08:22. > :08:26.actually think you probably couldn't do it? I'm not so sure about that.
:08:27. > :08:31.Come on, you know Rose, you know what it is like? I would not, as
:08:32. > :08:36.someone in a Pastoral role with others, I may not publicly out there
:08:37. > :08:40.condemn them, but I would certainly be willing to speak to them about
:08:41. > :08:48.their behaviour or whatever. This is the problem, publicly we're not
:08:49. > :08:54.publicly being able to speak out Protestant fetically because we have
:08:55. > :08:59.this d prophetically in this role. If you have listened to the same
:09:00. > :09:03.bishops in the House of Lords, or the charge bishops, they have spoken
:09:04. > :09:10.out recently. They are the ones who are leading the discussions with
:09:11. > :09:14.regards to welfare reform, with regards to the scandal. Anyone could
:09:15. > :09:18.be doing that, a rabbi could be doing it, an Iman could be doing it?
:09:19. > :09:22.But they are the one that is are doing it. Don't you concede it is an
:09:23. > :09:26.enormous privilege and power given to Anglican, a diminishing quantity
:09:27. > :09:30.in this country, in the parliamentary system, that cannot be
:09:31. > :09:37.right? I think, I feel that we are obsessed about this. And certainly
:09:38. > :09:42.listening to what Nick Clegg said about it, for me faith ask not
:09:43. > :09:47.something in a box separate from politics or separate from something
:09:48. > :09:55.else. It is who I am. And so what we need to be doing is to enable
:09:56. > :10:00.peoples, those who are of faith to actually express who they are as
:10:01. > :10:03.people of faith in whatever walks of life they find themselves. Are we
:10:04. > :10:08.really free, I want the Channel Tunnel to play a greater role in the
:10:09. > :10:11.public sphere, I want it out and proud about what it thinks. Can we
:10:12. > :10:17.really be that when our bishops are appointed through processes from
:10:18. > :10:21.Downing Street, and state has this enormously role in choosing the
:10:22. > :10:25.Archbishop of Canterbury, actually we are compromises by our complicity
:10:26. > :10:30.and closeness with the state. That is not entirely true. Can I ask you
:10:31. > :10:35.to look at it from the perspective of the state, do you worry without
:10:36. > :10:40.that, if the link is broken it won't be replaced with another link and
:10:41. > :10:43.another faith, wouldn't the state lose its spiritual dimension? I
:10:44. > :10:47.don't know what that means, the heart of the Church of England is
:10:48. > :10:52.not... You don't think it offers morality, you don't think it guides
:10:53. > :10:56.the state? No, that comes through the democratic state and the voters
:10:57. > :11:00.and the House of Commons. The Church of England is at its core is in the
:11:01. > :11:04.parishes, and what Rose talks about fact we are out there in every
:11:05. > :11:08.community in the land. That is absolutely the crucial work we do.
:11:09. > :11:18.It is not about what we do whispering people inner mine Ermine
:11:19. > :11:23.in the House of Lords. What about the church withdrawing from public
:11:24. > :11:26.life? It would free us up to participate more? This establishment
:11:27. > :11:33.would present an image of the church in retreat. Right now the church as
:11:34. > :11:39.an established church represents the ability to be in the prison, in the
:11:40. > :11:42.chaplain. It sounds like you are worried about the perception of
:11:43. > :11:47.retreat? No, it is more than a perception. The work that the church
:11:48. > :12:01.does in prisons, in hospitals, in schools. We can still do that, they
:12:02. > :12:06.do it in Wales, they They do that everywhere. Having an established
:12:07. > :12:11.church here sends a message to other faiths that you are free to be who
:12:12. > :12:16.you are. What you represent as a person of faith is welcome. Do you
:12:17. > :12:20.accept that, that it does encourage people of different faiths to be
:12:21. > :12:24.able to feel freer to express that? Some people think, that the former
:12:25. > :12:28.Chief Rabbi used to think that, a lot of people don't feel that. Many
:12:29. > :12:31.people of other faiths don't have a problem with this? You hold the
:12:32. > :12:36.ring. My argument is not a problem, I'm not arguing from other faiths,
:12:37. > :12:39.I'm saying that the church of the establishment prefers dressing-up to
:12:40. > :12:44.speaking out and that is the problem. I don't know about that, I
:12:45. > :12:48.think that the church still has a prophetic role, and I think this is
:12:49. > :12:53.a secularist agenda. I don't see people in my parish in Hackney, this
:12:54. > :13:01.is not on their lips. This establishment is not a priority. Let
:13:02. > :13:04.me ask you, this was brought up as a concept very typically by the Prime
:13:05. > :13:09.Minister at Easter, do you feel physically used by politicians going
:13:10. > :13:17.on about the church, possibly for a very sort of voter-specific reason?
:13:18. > :13:20.Each person will have to answer for themselves whether they are standing
:13:21. > :13:23.up front and saying I'm a person of faith and I think Britain is a
:13:24. > :13:27.religious country, if they are doing it genuinely or if they are doing it
:13:28. > :13:32.because they want to make a political show. But I believe that
:13:33. > :13:36.Britain is a Christian country. And you believe it will stay like that?
:13:37. > :13:40.You nodded when we were talking about parliamentary time? It was
:13:41. > :13:45.right in the package at the beginning, is you won't unravel this
:13:46. > :13:49.cat's cradle, no-one will give it the parliamentary time. I would like
:13:50. > :13:52.that to happen, I like Thomas Jefferson's wisdom about the
:13:53. > :13:55.separation of church and state would be a good one to bring back here.
:13:56. > :14:01.That won't happen. There is much more priority for the nation than
:14:02. > :14:07.that. Agreed. Thank you both very much indeed. Coming up Helen Mirren
:14:08. > :14:16.as Shakespeare's Cleopatra. I think there was or might be such a man as
:14:17. > :14:20.this? A 72-year-old British grandfather has become the latest
:14:21. > :14:24.victim of Pakistan's notorious blasphemy law, after reading some
:14:25. > :14:31.verses from the Koran, he was jailed for posing to be a Muslim and locked
:14:32. > :14:45.up for 65 days. He has now fled bail and is staying with his children in
:14:46. > :14:50.Glasgow. We went to speak to him. I was thinking I haven't done
:14:51. > :14:54.anything, why have you taken me? They said we know what to do with
:14:55. > :14:59.you, we will beat you so much you will never forget ever. He's safe
:15:00. > :15:03.for now, in November he was arrested and persecuted in Pakistan for his
:15:04. > :15:06.religious beliefs. He's escaped to Britain and is now living in
:15:07. > :15:11.Glasgow, but even here he's not accepted by many Muslims. He was
:15:12. > :15:15.jailed in Pakistan for reading a verse from the Koran. His crime was
:15:16. > :15:20.posing to be a Muslim and violating the country's infamous blasphemy
:15:21. > :15:27.laws. These are the circumstances when I came to London, I started my
:15:28. > :15:34.education. And I studied in the 1960s and 1970s. He's part of the
:15:35. > :15:37.community, a religious sect deemed non-Muslim by the Pakistani
:15:38. > :15:44.Government. Educated in Britain, he worked as a homeopath in Lahore for
:15:45. > :15:48.many years. He was tricked publicly into expressing his beliefs by a
:15:49. > :15:51.young man posing as a patient. He asked me some medical advice, I
:15:52. > :15:56.wrote whatever was needed and after that he pushed me into the religious
:15:57. > :16:04.questions. I took the Koran out and said let's see what the Koran says?
:16:05. > :16:08.I just quoted a little bit and translated into Urdu, and then the
:16:09. > :16:13.police came in. And they grabbed me from the neck and took me straight
:16:14. > :16:19.to the police station. I never knew what happened. This secret recording
:16:20. > :16:24.could have him jailed for up to three years. Members of the
:16:25. > :16:28.community are considered outside the fold of Muslim by many Muslims
:16:29. > :16:33.because of their belief in a subservient prophet after Mohammed.
:16:34. > :16:38.He believes he was targeted. It was planned many months ago. It wasn't
:16:39. > :16:43.an all of a sudden. Because there was a black mark on my car and a
:16:44. > :16:50.black mark on my shop, and at that time I thought they are going to do
:16:51. > :16:54.something. And they did. To avoid reprisals from other prisoners,
:16:55. > :17:04.those arrested on blasphemy charges are locked up together. Masood spent
:17:05. > :17:08.65 years in jail together with two other members of the secretary while
:17:09. > :17:16.on remand. It was a small cell, and there was a toilet everything within
:17:17. > :17:20.it. We had to sleep on the floor, we had our own blankets. When you are
:17:21. > :17:28.mentally strong you can bear anything. What is every day life in
:17:29. > :17:34.Pakistan like for your group? After 1984 after the constitution, every
:17:35. > :17:38.one of us is in danger, even when walking in the street you can be
:17:39. > :17:43.prosecuted and sent to prison, even if he looks like a Muslim. Any of us
:17:44. > :17:47.can be sent to prison, can be murdered at any time, and nobody
:17:48. > :17:56.will ask why did you do that? Because he's a second class, or
:17:57. > :18:01.rather third class citizens. Masood's family in Glasgow is now
:18:02. > :18:07.taking care of him, including his 20-year-old daughter, she's angry
:18:08. > :18:10.but puts her faith in God that those behind this will be punished. They
:18:11. > :18:13.will pay for this, because they are doing bad to people who have done
:18:14. > :18:24.nothing to them. They do so many things to us, but we have never said
:18:25. > :18:30.one word of hatred to them. Love for all. So whether a Mullah or anyone
:18:31. > :18:36.else, we don't hate them. She didn't know how tough I am, that is the
:18:37. > :18:43.reason, she was worried! She's my favourite granddaughter. After
:18:44. > :18:55.suffering rejection and persecution at the hands of Pakistan Masood
:18:56. > :18:59.doesn't hope to return to his homeland. I have a freedom here, I
:19:00. > :19:04.love my country but I can't go back, if I go back I will be in prison or
:19:05. > :19:20.murdered. I have no choice, except to live in Britain, and enjoy the
:19:21. > :19:25.freedom. New mortgage rules come into force at midnight aimed at
:19:26. > :19:31.ensuring borrowers are not offered loans they can't afford. Borrowers
:19:32. > :19:36.are warned to expect more scrutiny and rejection. It is aimed to
:19:37. > :19:40.clamp-down on boom time lending. Will it make it harder to borrow?
:19:41. > :19:43.What is crucial is some members have been doing this for years already,
:19:44. > :19:46.but from tomorrow they will be required to do it, if they don't
:19:47. > :19:50.show they are doing it, they will get in trouble with the regulator.
:19:51. > :19:56.What is that experience of them asking you about your grocery bill,
:19:57. > :20:03.your gas bill, what you spend on grooming, how does that constrain
:20:04. > :20:07.lending? If you look at how much people are borrowing, far from
:20:08. > :20:11.borrowing less, it has allowed us to borrow more. Under the 1980s you
:20:12. > :20:16.could borrow two-and-a-half times your joint income, if you had a
:20:17. > :20:21.couple with a joint income of ?150,000, lucky them, they could
:20:22. > :20:27.borrow ?375,000, under the new system I have quotes, and Halifax
:20:28. > :20:33.will lend you ?675,000, four-times your income, Skipton ?750,000,
:20:34. > :20:38.five-times your income, and a higher amount, Newcastle will lend you
:20:39. > :20:43.?862, five-and-a-half times your income. Finding out what you spend
:20:44. > :20:49.on hair and gas means they may lend you more. Will it be harder for a
:20:50. > :20:54.first time buyer to stretch to buy the best property? What people did
:20:55. > :20:57.in the past is if they couldn't afford the monthly payment they
:20:58. > :21:01.would like an interest-only mortgage. Now they are stretching
:21:02. > :21:06.the mortgage over a longer term, that can really cut your payments.
:21:07. > :21:12.In the past over 25 years, borrowing ?500,000, you would pay ?2,900, if
:21:13. > :21:16.you stretch it out to 35 years you can cut the monthly payment to
:21:17. > :21:19.?2,500. It can make you cheaper but the mortgages are getting longer and
:21:20. > :21:25.longer and stretching into retirement, you might pay until you
:21:26. > :21:28.are 75. If you take first time buyers versus buy-to-let, different
:21:29. > :21:31.treatment for them? Completely different, if you are buying for
:21:32. > :21:35.your own home it is a regulated mortgage. If it is a buy-to-let
:21:36. > :21:38.mortgage it is not regulated, they don't need to know about your gas
:21:39. > :21:43.bill or grooming. It means for the same monthly payment they can borrow
:21:44. > :21:49.more, and buy-to-let investors can compete better for the houses on the
:21:50. > :21:55.market. The summer of 1994 was the summer Britpop ruled the waves,
:21:56. > :22:02.Blur's Parklife came out 20 years ago today. Oasis's Definitely Maybe
:22:03. > :22:06.was on the way. The music was arrogant, cheeky, and anthemic, it
:22:07. > :22:10.suggested a country beginning to feel at ease with itself once again.
:22:11. > :22:15.20 years on we went to meet unwith of the artists that inspired a
:22:16. > :22:26.generation. The Blur front man, Damon Albarn. Can you remember what
:22:27. > :22:32.you were doing at the height of Britpop, perhaps you were running
:22:33. > :22:37.the country. Bandses like Damon Albarn's Blur, furnished the
:22:38. > :22:44.soundtrack to the early Blair years, Cool Britannia and all that.
:22:45. > :22:49.# What is known as parklife. Today is a red letter day, 20 years since
:22:50. > :22:54.Parklife came out, we have producers on Newsnight younger than that. Are
:22:55. > :23:01.you feeling nostalgic, how do you look back on that record in that
:23:02. > :23:08.time? I'm not feeling nostalgic, I'm very much in the present. That was
:23:09. > :23:19.an extraordinary year for me and it changed my life. It was great shock
:23:20. > :23:26.to the system, I think you talk to anyone who has that meteoric rise,
:23:27. > :23:36.it takes a while to come out of that the other side, you know. But what
:23:37. > :23:41.is being billed as his first solo record, Albarn has been revisiting
:23:42. > :23:47.his roots in East London and Essex. He's also been reflecting on other
:23:48. > :23:52.phases in his life, one nomic reference to heroin has been
:23:53. > :24:01.generating column inches. My experience was a long time ago. I
:24:02. > :24:11.wrote about it in one song which is You and Me, it is in context, the
:24:12. > :24:16.context is it is a song about the ghosts of Notting Hill Carnival,
:24:17. > :24:20.which I live on one of the Main Streets where the prosession goes
:24:21. > :24:25.through. And it is incredible. You get the three brilliant days where
:24:26. > :24:28.two million people pass through this neighbourhood and then silence,
:24:29. > :24:32.everything overnight disappears, but there is this energy and these
:24:33. > :24:42.ghosts are still there, and the whole song is about ghosts. It is
:24:43. > :24:45.one of my ghosts. I personally don't have an addictive personality, I
:24:46. > :24:49.mean, I can have a cigarette and then not have a cigarette for five
:24:50. > :25:05.days and then have another one. I'm very lucky like that. I have not for
:25:06. > :25:10.one secondam Making the -- am Making up the he pretence that everyone is
:25:11. > :25:14.like me. This idea of me being a liberty teen in best London
:25:15. > :25:23.celebrating drug taking couldn't be further from that.
:25:24. > :25:37.# We are every day robots # In the process of getting home
:25:38. > :25:42.Albarn's new material is autobiograical. Instead of breathing
:25:43. > :25:49.life into his animated groan Gorillaz, or channelling Elizabethan
:25:50. > :25:57.mystic Dr Dee. He's now assumed the role of baffled dad, wondering at
:25:58. > :26:00.the younger generation and their gadgets. You have a
:26:01. > :26:09.14-and-a-half-year-old daughter and their relationship with social media
:26:10. > :26:20.is in a way alien to me, I know they look at us and think that we are the
:26:21. > :26:30.ones that are in need of some form of evolution. Now some Britpop for
:26:31. > :26:42.the teenagers, a tune which Ken Dodd no less took to the charts in 1960.
:26:43. > :26:47.# Love is like a violin # Da-da-da-da. Newsnight can reveal
:26:48. > :26:55.Albarn is tinkering with a project about the Music Halls. One big
:26:56. > :27:02.question remains. Our editor would like to know who you think was
:27:03. > :27:07.better, you lot or Oasis! That's not a very grown-up question for
:27:08. > :27:15.Newsnight is it. I will pass that on.
:27:16. > :27:23.# I'm feeling supersonic I think Oasis were better. I think
:27:24. > :27:35.they were better at communicating who they were than we were. We will
:27:36. > :27:40.ask Noel Gallagher the same question. Just the papers before we
:27:41. > :27:45.go. The Times has the mortgage story. Baby George on his way home.
:27:46. > :27:52.The Treasury Minister's battle to scrap HS two is an interesting one
:27:53. > :27:57.for the Telegraph. Warnings that the ?50 billion scheme of HS two, the
:27:58. > :28:00.high-speed rail link does not represent value for tax-payers'
:28:01. > :28:04.money. She is of course David Cameron's new Treasury Minister, who
:28:05. > :28:09.is now wanting a dramatic re-think on the whole project. In the
:28:10. > :28:13.Guardian they have a picture Nigel Farage and it says no MPs only one
:28:14. > :28:36.policy. So had a where has Farrage got them rattled.
:28:37. > :28:43.That's almost it, as part of our celebration of the birthday of
:28:44. > :28:51.Shakespeare, Tom Hollander formed his favourite speech from Richard II
:28:52. > :28:56.I, tonight Helen Mirren from act five scene two from Cleopatra. I
:28:57. > :29:04.dreamed there was an Emperor Anthony, oh, such another sleep,
:29:05. > :29:11.that I might see but such another man. His face was as the heavens,
:29:12. > :29:19.and there in stuck a sumant moon that kept their course and lighted
:29:20. > :29:29.the little "o" the earth. His legs bestrid the ocean, his reared arm
:29:30. > :29:33.crested the world. His voice was as all the tune'd spheres and that to
:29:34. > :29:40.friends but when he went to shake and quail the orb he was as rattling
:29:41. > :29:48.thunder! For his pointy there was no winter in it and autumn it was that
:29:49. > :29:52.grew the more by reaping his delights would often like. They
:29:53. > :30:04.showed his back above the element they lived in. In his lids realms
:30:05. > :30:32.and islands were as plate, dropped from his pocket. Think you there was
:30:33. > :30:36.or might be such a man as this? Hello there, many places tomorrow
:30:37. > :30:39.will start off cloudy and wet, but an improving picture throughout the
:30:40. > :30:40.day, an area of low pressure down to the