:00:08. > :00:11.homeownership, the plan was all going so well. Or was it? Tonight
:00:12. > :00:17.Newsnight reveals the official Government documents that show house
:00:18. > :00:24.building is set to fall. We know now we have built more than 300,000
:00:25. > :00:27.houses, new houses in 1953. How will today's voters react to the news
:00:28. > :00:32.that when it comes to housing they never had it so bad. Might they
:00:33. > :00:35.blame the Government? Israel buries the three Israeli
:00:36. > :00:42.teenagers they say were killed by ham marks what retaliation will
:00:43. > :00:46.follow this. Israel's security cabinet is still
:00:47. > :00:57.in session trying to decide how much of a response will satisfy its
:00:58. > :01:06.public. Caitlin Moran's new novel, How To Be A Girl. I feel decidedly
:01:07. > :01:12.would happen tonight and I stopped them. She's here to talk about sex,
:01:13. > :01:16.sexism and getting her socio-political freak on. Who would
:01:17. > :01:25.have thought 40 years ago we would all be sitting here doing Monty
:01:26. > :01:30.Python! Is Monty Python still funny. We went to the opening night of the
:01:31. > :01:34.sell-out reunion. We are going to see Monty Python who are
:01:35. > :01:38.tremenduously still alive. Let's hope we make it back to the studio
:01:39. > :01:46.in time, if not there will be an empty wheelchair and some blue suede
:01:47. > :01:52.shoes. The dream of homeownership has been central to this
:01:53. > :01:55.Government's policies, the Help to Buy scheme gave aid to thousands who
:01:56. > :01:58.wanted to own their own place. But it was always accompanied by the
:01:59. > :02:02.acknowledgement that concrete measure, more housing stock, was the
:02:03. > :02:07.only real long-term answer. Now this programme has seen document that is
:02:08. > :02:12.reveal the number of houses being built is set to decareer, highly
:02:13. > :02:17.embarrassing for the Government, particularly as it is set to hid
:02:18. > :02:30.hard in three months, just before the general election. As
:02:31. > :02:36.The Prime Minister has a picture of this chap in his office, Harold
:02:37. > :02:40.Macmillan, as a post-war Housing Minister he got 300,000 houses built
:02:41. > :02:45.a year. Now under David Cameron houses are going up far from that
:02:46. > :02:50.dizzy rate. This Government has put a lot of elbow degrees into getting
:02:51. > :02:54.Britain building again. It has liberalised the planning laws
:02:55. > :02:58.controversially, and put resources into the Help to Buy scheme, all in
:02:59. > :03:04.the aim to help people own their own homes. But we have seen official
:03:05. > :03:09.documents that in spite of all that work, next year, ahead of the
:03:10. > :03:13.general election, the number of houses built goes down.
:03:14. > :03:17.The leaked document shows what we know already, after the financial
:03:18. > :03:20.crash, the number of housing starts did pick up over the course of the
:03:21. > :03:24.parliament, it is the projections worrying insiders. The next set of
:03:25. > :03:28.figures is expected to show a decrease in the number of houses
:03:29. > :03:33.completed. House starts are projected to increase again, but the
:03:34. > :03:38.figures out on the eve of the next general election are falling to
:03:39. > :03:42.128,000, not good news, a gift, some in Government think for their
:03:43. > :03:47.opponents. Just to say the Prime Minister is incredibly complacent,
:03:48. > :03:53.house completions are at their lowest level since 1924. I know
:03:54. > :03:57.doesn't like the fact, nearly 400,000 new homes delivered since
:03:58. > :04:02.2010, housing starts in the last quarter were at their highest level
:04:03. > :04:05.for five years. Housing starts are an interesting indicator, they tell
:04:06. > :04:08.you about what is happening next, decisions being made now and what
:04:09. > :04:11.builders think they are going to do next. At the point we are in the
:04:12. > :04:15.housing cycle we need to be building a lot more homes than we are
:04:16. > :04:19.currently building. Any decline is not ideal. Of course it is important
:04:20. > :04:24.to put it in context, we need to be building about 250,000 homes a year,
:04:25. > :04:28.we are currently building 150,000. Downing Street asked community
:04:29. > :04:33.secretary, Eric Pickles to jump start house building, the leaked
:04:34. > :04:37.document shows the 9,000 sites for 350,000 homes with full planning
:04:38. > :04:41.permission, but that haven't started building yet, they should be
:04:42. > :04:46.accelerated. It also singles out the council's failure to build
:04:47. > :04:50.replacements for homes sold under Right To Buy. Politicians look silly
:04:51. > :04:53.in hard hats, but you will see a lot more of it in the general election.
:04:54. > :04:57.Promises will be made by all parties on house building. What worries the
:04:58. > :05:00.coalition is that a decrease just before the election makes it harder
:05:01. > :05:03.for them to made they have made concrete progress. That is a lot
:05:04. > :05:10.more brickies getting bothered by politicians. As you mentioned it
:05:11. > :05:13.hits hard in 2015, and according to the figures you have got, what is
:05:14. > :05:17.the Government response to this tonight? They are accepting the
:05:18. > :05:21.figures because they are not rebutting them at all. They are
:05:22. > :05:25.talking about different figures. I think these documents are accurate
:05:26. > :05:29.in the case. What they are pointing out, the Housing Minister said to
:05:30. > :05:33.us, we have delivered 445,000 new homes over the past four years,
:05:34. > :05:37.housing starts are at their highest since 2007. We are playing with
:05:38. > :05:39.different scales, they have gone up according to the Prime Minister in
:05:40. > :05:42.that clip, but the crucial thing is they will dip in the critical period
:05:43. > :05:46.before a general election. In a parliament when you have spent so
:05:47. > :05:50.much effort in getting things moving again, Conservatives and Liberal
:05:51. > :05:53.Democrats. That is why this matters? It really matters because it is
:05:54. > :05:57.about, we think the next election will be about the economic recovery,
:05:58. > :06:00.and what type of recovery it is, and whether people are feeling it or
:06:01. > :06:03.not. And for so many people it is about whether you can own your own
:06:04. > :06:08.home. The prospect of owning your own home and what prices are doing
:06:09. > :06:11.are linked. That is why it matters so much, because it is about the
:06:12. > :06:15.feeling of the economic recovery and whether actually everyone is feeling
:06:16. > :06:20.it. Thank you very much. Meanwhile a Labour peer and former visitor to Ed
:06:21. > :06:24.Miliband, Lord Glassman, has accused the Labour leader of conformist
:06:25. > :06:27.mediocrity, saying we have an England football team of a
:06:28. > :06:33.Government and the reserves are no better. Labour's reports into
:06:34. > :06:38.spending, and devolution is proving fashionable now and they are all at
:06:39. > :06:46.it. It didn't stop everyone telling Labour they have got their figures
:06:47. > :06:51.wrong. We got to the bottom of it. # Stop me stop me
:06:52. > :06:57.This might look like a City, but it is also a political battleground.
:06:58. > :07:00.I'm here to talk to you about what we can do to make the cities of the
:07:01. > :07:04.north a powerhouse for our economy again. With new transport and
:07:05. > :07:09.science and powerful city governance. That the way we solve
:07:10. > :07:14.these questions I'm talking about is with local people making local
:07:15. > :07:19.decisions, with local businesses about how their area can grow,
:07:20. > :07:25.prosper and create the jobs of the future.
:07:26. > :07:29.In the past week the parties have been arguing about who has the best
:07:30. > :07:35.plan to turn around the northern economy. Today Labour published a
:07:36. > :07:40.growth plan by former cabinet minister Lord Adonis. Last week the
:07:41. > :07:44.Chancellor was here in Manchester, talking about how to build a
:07:45. > :07:49.northern powerhouse economy. Today Ed Miliband is over in Leeds talking
:07:50. > :07:54.about much the same kind of thing. All of the parties now agree, we
:07:55. > :07:59.need to rebalance our economy. More jobs and growth, in places like
:08:00. > :08:04.this, and today, it seems, they also agree that one way to achieve that
:08:05. > :08:10.is to devolve more power and money to local Government. Like Manchester
:08:11. > :08:17.City Council over here. But it wasn't just Lord Adoni's is's
:08:18. > :08:25.policies creating news today, there was a battle over statistics. The
:08:26. > :08:43.Adonis review claims that net sector jobs have been created in London.
:08:44. > :08:49.Using a more conventional approach means that 40% of net private sector
:08:50. > :08:52.job creation has been in London, that is much bigger than London's
:08:53. > :08:58.share of the population and does suggest a problem. But not as
:08:59. > :09:04.shocking as the 80% claim. Economic output per head in the UK as a whole
:09:05. > :09:09.is about ?22,000 a year. But that average masks huge regional
:09:10. > :09:17.differences. In London it is up at ?37,000 per head, in the south-east
:09:18. > :09:22.of England, it is ?23,000. Outside of London and the south-east it is
:09:23. > :09:26.much lower. Across the north it is half the level of London. There are
:09:27. > :09:30.significant problems Andrews regional imbalance, the real problem
:09:31. > :09:33.is how to close the differences between Manchester and the
:09:34. > :09:41.south-east, one way to do that could be for greater hours to be
:09:42. > :09:44.controlled from Whitehall. A new system for business rates that is
:09:45. > :09:57.raised locally and spent locally in the areas most in need. Once you
:09:58. > :09:59.start to do that you shrink the gap in that.
:10:00. > :10:05.Parties have been looking to Manchester for lessons? It has been
:10:06. > :10:10.working very, very well but particularly over the last three
:10:11. > :10:14.years, where we have set up the Greater Manchester Authority. We
:10:15. > :10:18.have established the Greater Manchester Transport Fund and set up
:10:19. > :10:31.a business growth hub that gives a one Topshop across the whole. We
:10:32. > :10:35.have started to work on skills. None of this is new, politicians
:10:36. > :10:38.have been grappling with how to boost growth outside of London for
:10:39. > :10:47.decades. This is going to be the youth club this. You can't disco all
:10:48. > :10:52.day! The north has been a relative economic decline for more than a
:10:53. > :10:58.century. It will take more than mayors and faster rail links to turn
:10:59. > :11:02.around a drain like that, the review contains 24 policy recommendations
:11:03. > :11:05.and last week the Chancellor added a half-a-dozen of his own.
:11:06. > :11:08.Individually none of them will achieve very much. But the hope is
:11:09. > :11:17.that taken together they add up to more than the sum of their parts.
:11:18. > :11:21.The policies in the Adonis review themselves have broadly been
:11:22. > :11:26.welcomed by commerce and business today. But a row about statistics
:11:27. > :11:34.has threatened to knock the report off its tracks. The author of the
:11:35. > :11:38.report Lord Adonis is with us now. Thanks for coming in. Let's clear up
:11:39. > :11:41.the figure, do you accept now in the clear light of day that your
:11:42. > :11:44.statistics were wrong? No I don't accept they were wrong, there is
:11:45. > :11:49.different data sets, the figures we were using in respect of job
:11:50. > :11:54.creation outside London is a data set which refers to where jobs are
:11:55. > :12:00.actually located, ONS survey is about where people live. They were
:12:01. > :12:03.based on data that runs out in 2012? That is the last data published on
:12:04. > :12:07.the data set. The other data set refers to where people live. What is
:12:08. > :12:11.so striking from Duncan's report is which either of the data sets you
:12:12. > :12:15.use, you can have an argument about which is the more appropriate, what
:12:16. > :12:19.they show is that job growth has been disproportionately in London,
:12:20. > :12:23.and if you take the wider south-east too, even more disproportionately
:12:24. > :12:27.there too. The big issue which he raises is how do we get really
:12:28. > :12:31.serious growth strategies in place in cities beyond London. With the
:12:32. > :12:39.date that, why not use the data that all the recognised companies are
:12:40. > :12:43.using, Matt Hancock has said your figures are out of date. You said
:12:44. > :12:47.80% and every other economist of credibility has said 40%? The
:12:48. > :12:56.figures we used are from the Centre for Cities, a reputable think-tank
:12:57. > :13:00.that publishes data on the relative performance of cities. There are two
:13:01. > :13:04.different data sets you can use, when the latest data comes out from
:13:05. > :13:10.where jobs are located as opposed to where people live. That first data
:13:11. > :13:13.set will be updated. This is a diversionary tactic. It is, but I
:13:14. > :13:18.pick up on it because it really goes to the heart of what many people
:13:19. > :13:21.will say about you in the party and outside which is you have a
:13:22. > :13:24.credibility problem with the economy, and you are using
:13:25. > :13:27.statistics now that many people disregard? I should be clear, in my
:13:28. > :13:32.report, when you look at the source for the data it says what the source
:13:33. > :13:37.is and makes it clear these figures refer to 2010-2012, I don't accept
:13:38. > :13:42.the credibility issue at all. This is exactly what people want to do is
:13:43. > :13:45.to have a debate about precisely how many jobs have been created where as
:13:46. > :13:49.accepting the issue of regional imbalance. The big issue for us as a
:13:50. > :13:54.country and it is not party political, it is what we do to
:13:55. > :13:57.address the underlying challenge. The underlying challenge is there is
:13:58. > :14:01.a great record of growth in London, London and the wider south-east,
:14:02. > :14:05.even within that there are pockets of acute poverty and big disparities
:14:06. > :14:10.that need to be addressed. But we all want to see the powerhouses of
:14:11. > :14:13.the Midlands and the north live up to their potential. And putting in
:14:14. > :14:18.place policies to see that happen is important. You gave give it to local
:14:19. > :14:21.authorities, they give it back to business, why not cut business rates
:14:22. > :14:25.and do something with massive effect? We are talking about funds
:14:26. > :14:34.that need to be spent, for infrastructure, skills, essentially
:14:35. > :14:39.purposes. There is a wider he -- debate about that. Why not cut
:14:40. > :14:43.business rates instead? If you talk to business about what they want to
:14:44. > :14:48.see in cities, two things come clear time and again. There is a big
:14:49. > :14:50.skills crisis a problem of high youth unemployment and shortage of
:14:51. > :14:54.skills, particularly technician skills and they want to see the
:14:55. > :14:57.infrastructure attended to. The funds we are talking about, I'm not
:14:58. > :15:01.talking about taxing anybody any more at all. The question is whether
:15:02. > :15:05.priorities are set at the local and regional level or at the national
:15:06. > :15:08.level. Now as Duncan said in his report, we are very unusual in this
:15:09. > :15:12.country in the degree of centralisation of spending
:15:13. > :15:16.decisions. People like Richard Lees who are outstanding leaders of big
:15:17. > :15:21.authorities like Manchester, what they say, rightly, if we are in
:15:22. > :15:25.charge of Manchester you want to make a big difference and give us
:15:26. > :15:31.more tools for the job. They should then decide what the priorities are.
:15:32. > :15:36.David Cameron said in 2009 what Michael Heseltine has already said
:15:37. > :15:40.and the Liberal Democrats. The problem is they haven't done it.
:15:41. > :15:42.There is an arms race now to decentralise? It is one thing to
:15:43. > :15:47.make speeches it is another to act. decentralise? It is one thing to
:15:48. > :15:51.deal of respect for, and his report is starting to create a consensus,
:15:52. > :15:55.he said himself today that what has happened in the last two years since
:15:56. > :15:59.his report was published is a stepping stone to what we need to
:16:00. > :16:04.see, which is much greater responsibility taken at the level of
:16:05. > :16:09.city leaders for improving their infrastructure and skills and making
:16:10. > :16:16.it is more probusiness. There is a problem here, as Lord Glassman said,
:16:17. > :16:20.and Len McClusky said last week, there is no coherent and cohesive
:16:21. > :16:24.message, you come out with the policies that sound grabby but there
:16:25. > :16:27.is no narrative that seems to carry the public with you? Today there is
:16:28. > :16:32.strong and strong narrative, which we need to put power in the hand of
:16:33. > :16:36.people who will make a difference. Business leaders, political leaders,
:16:37. > :16:40.those people who have responsibility for the health and welfare of their
:16:41. > :16:47.cities. You would expect on this for the public to gather around Ed
:16:48. > :16:50.Miliband and say forget the last years we are with Labour? Today's
:16:51. > :16:54.report is one building block and that is what we are discussing. The
:16:55. > :16:57.big question which people will ask of Ed Miliband and Labour is are
:16:58. > :17:00.they addressing the issues that really matter to the country.
:17:01. > :17:05.Getting unemployment down, getting more skills, more apprentice, more
:17:06. > :17:09.growth companies, more innovation, all of that infrastructure sorted
:17:10. > :17:13.out we had a report about housing, getting housing numbers and starts
:17:14. > :17:16.up. These are things that really matter to people, this agenda of
:17:17. > :17:19.empowering city leaders and giving them the tools for the job goes to
:17:20. > :17:23.the heart of being able to make a difference, community by community,
:17:24. > :17:28.better jobs, better paid jobs too across the whole country. Is that
:17:29. > :17:33.how you were won over, you of course were a David Miliband supporter and
:17:34. > :17:38.now you're very much in the Ed camp, you are doing his work. What is it
:17:39. > :17:41.about him then that has really sold himself to you? He's looking to the
:17:42. > :17:46.needs of the country, which is what you expect all good political
:17:47. > :17:50.leaders to do. The issues he's talking about, which is the problem
:17:51. > :17:54.of relatively low growth rates, which we still have even with the
:17:55. > :17:57.catch-up we are experiencing at the moment. We are not seeing the growth
:17:58. > :18:00.there is translated into improvements in living standards,
:18:01. > :18:05.because we have low productivity in this country and how you improve it,
:18:06. > :18:09.getting public services working better and the infrastructure, these
:18:10. > :18:13.things matter to the country. Why isn't it catching on within your
:18:14. > :18:18.party and the wider public, people talk about his power ebbing away day
:18:19. > :18:31.by day? I don't accept that at all. Labour has been doing every election
:18:32. > :18:34.happening he is doing better. Getting more and better jobs in
:18:35. > :18:37.every community in the country, there is no more important issue
:18:38. > :18:40.than that at the moment. The policies we have been talking about
:18:41. > :18:44.today to empower local business and political leaders to tackle skills
:18:45. > :18:47.shortages, promote a better environment for businesses to grow,
:18:48. > :18:51.to deal with infrastructure, including that big issue which we
:18:52. > :18:55.had at the beginning of the programme, housing, looming up the
:18:56. > :19:09.political agenda, that is what Ed and. Labour Party is talking about.
:19:10. > :19:15.Listening to that are our guests. Rachel you have isolated the problem
:19:16. > :19:20.as being with Ed Miliband's character, pretty scathing about
:19:21. > :19:24.him, a man looking like he's giving birth without being sure there is a
:19:25. > :19:28.baby inside? That is what a former Labour cabinet minister said to me.
:19:29. > :19:32.There is a sense of despair on the Labour benches among MPs and some
:19:33. > :19:36.candidates. This sense that this is Labour's election to lose if you
:19:37. > :19:42.like, everything should be more Ed Miliband, David Cameron is not a
:19:43. > :19:45.popular leader, there is austerity, the four-party system should make
:19:46. > :19:49.this a Labour victory, and yet the party doesn't seem to be breaking
:19:50. > :19:55.through. It is strange in many ways he's an admirable character, he has
:19:56. > :19:59.interesting ideas, Andrew Adonis's report today is sensible and will do
:20:00. > :20:02.good things. He's a radical in some ways, yet he doesn't seem to be able
:20:03. > :20:06.to articulate that. There is a credibility gap if you like. He
:20:07. > :20:10.talks about remaking capitalism, but there is a cap between the energy
:20:11. > :20:14.price freeze and this kind of revolution that he's promising. And
:20:15. > :20:19.people don't quite, it doesn't quite ring true. When another senior
:20:20. > :20:23.figure said to me's a curious mixture of dogma and indecision. It
:20:24. > :20:28.is this kind of lack of authenticity therefore. Can you say hand on heart
:20:29. > :20:32.that he's taking you with him? Whether or not he's taking me with
:20:33. > :20:36.him is irrelevant, he needs to take the country with him as Andrew
:20:37. > :20:40.pointed out. Is he taking the country with him? He's winning local
:20:41. > :20:45.election, he's still leading in the poll, his personal ratings are dire,
:20:46. > :20:49.that is undeniable. The big question is do those poor personal ratings
:20:50. > :20:52.stop him being Prime Minister next year or are they already factored in
:20:53. > :20:56.the Prime Minister. Those people saying they don't think he's prime
:20:57. > :21:00.ministerial material, but they are voting Labour. More pollsters are
:21:01. > :21:04.being told they will vote Labour than the Conservatives. He does have
:21:05. > :21:08.an image problem, which he's reluctant to engage with, to look at
:21:09. > :21:11.polls saying you are weird and geeky and your brother is more popular
:21:12. > :21:16.than you must hurt. He doesn't really want to engage in this stuff,
:21:17. > :21:22.he likes to float above the fray and see himself as a serious, positive
:21:23. > :21:27.and intellectual figure. But the fundamentals still favour Labour.
:21:28. > :21:31.Just pick up on that curious phrase "a mixture of dogma and indecision",
:21:32. > :21:35.that goes to the heart of the Sun thing. A leader who clearly thinks
:21:36. > :21:39.and feels things very strongly but some how can't say them? I pick up
:21:40. > :21:43.on what has just been said, Labour is leading in polls and in real
:21:44. > :21:46.elections it has been doing well. That is a big vote of confidence in
:21:47. > :21:50.Ed Miliband's leadership, in terms of taking decisions that matter he
:21:51. > :21:54.has taken big and bold decision, the decisions we have taken today about
:21:55. > :21:57.being prepared to empower city leaders, big decisions there. The
:21:58. > :22:01.decision he took, which I think is one, because I have been talking a
:22:02. > :22:06.lot with the business community about this report, it is an exercise
:22:07. > :22:10.in total immersion visiting the cities, the biggest issue they have
:22:11. > :22:14.raised is Europe. They don't want a Government or Prime Minister that
:22:15. > :22:18.plays fast and loose with the national interest when it comes to
:22:19. > :22:24.Europe. Ed took his time to make the decision, and he came out decisively
:22:25. > :22:27.that Labour will not hold a referendum unless there is a treaty
:22:28. > :22:31.change. Much more decisive than David Cameron who has offered a
:22:32. > :22:35.referendum on terms unknown for a negotiation that hasn't begun as
:22:36. > :22:40.yet. You could say what more can he be doing, if you have bold policies
:22:41. > :22:44.were is the blockage? The problem is the voters don't see Ed Miliband
:22:45. > :22:47.standing on the steps of Number Ten. They can't imagine him as Prime
:22:48. > :22:50.Minister. Credibility is about stylishness and sense of humour, you
:22:51. > :22:54.can't describe it or say you have got it, you have to demonstrate it
:22:55. > :22:58.in small and large situation. It is that gap between the pronouncements
:22:59. > :23:03.and the reality and then the little things, holding up the Sun for a
:23:04. > :23:07.photograph, and then apologising for it. That is kind of the worst of all
:23:08. > :23:09.worlds, and if you can't get those little decisions right in
:23:10. > :23:14.opposition, it begs the question how would you deal with nuclear war. Do
:23:15. > :23:20.you take this on board when you hear it? Joss it is the big -- It is the
:23:21. > :23:23.big decisions that matter. The biggest decision we will take is
:23:24. > :23:25.whether or not to stay in the European Union. The cavalier
:23:26. > :23:28.approach the Government has been taking to this issue is in the eyes
:23:29. > :23:31.of the business community and economic leaders is not one they
:23:32. > :23:36.find attractive. It is Ed Miliband who has taken the strong and
:23:37. > :23:39.principled stand. I don't accept this picture at all that when it
:23:40. > :23:46.comes to the big challenges he has been found to be there when needed?
:23:47. > :23:51.. The problem is this is Labour's election to lose, it shouldn't be,
:23:52. > :23:56.Labour got its second worst result in 200 years in 2010. They were
:23:57. > :24:00.supposed to be tearing themselves in two with Civil War, it is amazing
:24:01. > :24:03.they are still leading in the polls and he's bookies' favourite to
:24:04. > :24:08.become Prime Minister next year given the party he inherited in
:24:09. > :24:11.2010. The crowds were so big the funerals themselves were delayed
:24:12. > :24:13.2010. The crowds were so big the accommodate the mourners. This was
:24:14. > :24:18.Israel's response on a human level to a crime that has rocked the
:24:19. > :24:21.entire nation. Three teenagers abducted and murdered while hitch
:24:22. > :24:26.hiking home from school in the occupied West Bank. Private grief
:24:27. > :24:31.and political outrage are often close neighbours in this part of the
:24:32. > :24:34.world. There are angry calls for revenge, and the Palestinians have
:24:35. > :24:38.asked why the world hasn't recognised their dead, five
:24:39. > :24:42.teenagers killed in the search for the missing teenagers. How will
:24:43. > :24:46.Israel retaliate and when is the question. What considerations will
:24:47. > :24:49.inform the Israeli Prime Minister's decisions this evening and in the
:24:50. > :24:53.coming days? They are still talking here late at night. On the one hand
:24:54. > :24:57.there are those feelings you mentioned. Those people who want
:24:58. > :25:01.revenge. Sometimes expressed on the streets in pretty ugly terms, I have
:25:02. > :25:05.to say. On the other there were all the consideringses that would --
:25:06. > :25:09.considerations that would lead him not to go for a biggest calculation.
:25:10. > :25:16.America has urged caution tonight. There are many in the Israeli camp
:25:17. > :25:20.who feel doing something dramatic might cause the Palestinian
:25:21. > :25:23.Authority to collapse or face serious difficulties. It is Ramadan,
:25:24. > :25:27.that is another reason why they don't want too big an escalation.
:25:28. > :25:31.For all of those reasons the people I'm talking to tonight expect that
:25:32. > :25:36.in the next day or two we will see more of what we have seen in the
:25:37. > :25:39.last day or two. Which is raids against suspected Hamas militants in
:25:40. > :25:48.the West Bank. And further air strikes in response to rockets or
:25:49. > :25:52.mortar rounds on Gaza. We caught up with the crowds heading
:25:53. > :25:57.to the murdered teenagers' funeral. Tens of thousands filed down through
:25:58. > :26:05.the heat of late afternoon to pay their respects and to send a
:26:06. > :26:09.message. It is as if we all want, we all are big body and limbs were
:26:10. > :26:13.taken from us individually. It is not just a personal suffering, it is
:26:14. > :26:21.a suffering for the whole nation. We need to act in a way that terrorists
:26:22. > :26:24.won't even think of doing anything like this. Innocent children don't
:26:25. > :26:29.deserve to be kidnapped and murdered in this way. It wasn't the moment
:26:30. > :26:34.deserve to be kidnapped and murdered for asking what happens next. But it
:26:35. > :26:38.is a thought on everyone's minds. In this conflict that has spanned
:26:39. > :26:42.decades, there have been any number of personal tragedies. But the
:26:43. > :26:48.timing of this couldn't be much more delicate, Israelis and Palestinians
:26:49. > :26:51.have just given up after years of faltering attempts to talk peace.
:26:52. > :26:55.The potential for escalation now is obvious.
:26:56. > :27:02.Adding to the difficulty of this day was the revelation of an emergency
:27:03. > :27:08.services call from one of the teen's buried today, Gilad Shaar, he made
:27:09. > :27:31.it soon after he and his friends are abducted.
:27:32. > :27:39.In pursuing the perpetrators Israeli forces yesterday raided homes in
:27:40. > :27:44.Hebron. Israel says the two Palestinian suspects it named
:27:45. > :27:50.earlier were Hamas members. But the militant organisation has neither
:27:51. > :27:53.claimed the kidnap nor entirely denied it. TRANSLATION: The story of
:27:54. > :27:57.the disappearance and the killing of the three settlers relies only on
:27:58. > :28:01.the Israeli tale and the Israeli occupation is trying to utilise this
:28:02. > :28:05.tale to enforce aggression on the Palestinians and the resistance. We
:28:06. > :28:11.stress that the Israeli threats don't scare Hamas. Not its leaders,
:28:12. > :28:15.nor our Palestinian people, and we warn the occupation from waging any
:28:16. > :28:24.war or wide scale aggression against our Palestinian people. This morning
:28:25. > :28:28.the Israeli air force was in action, with strikes against 34 targets in
:28:29. > :28:33.Gaza. It follows an upsurge in rocket attacks on Israel. And
:28:34. > :28:36.although this injured many, this was not the promised Israeli response to
:28:37. > :28:41.the kidnap. Something being weighed tonight in Jerusalem. I wouldn't
:28:42. > :28:48.want to rule in or rule out any kind of self-defence operations, what we
:28:49. > :28:53.do know is that Gaza has become a huge warehouse of long range
:28:54. > :28:57.rockets, that can strike at Tel Aviv, these are not in small
:28:58. > :29:03.numbers. The notion that Iran could have a forward position along the
:29:04. > :29:10.Mediterranean on the Gaza strip, and fill Gaza with rockets of different
:29:11. > :29:16.types, Fager 3 or 5 is something that Israel has a hard time
:29:17. > :29:20.accepting. This was a day of high emotion as
:29:21. > :29:26.parents buried their sons. But it was a day also for politics, for the
:29:27. > :29:29.Israeli Prime Minister addressed the funeral, telling mourners that the
:29:30. > :29:36.abductions had brought Israel together, and shown them an inner
:29:37. > :29:39.strength. The coming days will demonstra how much further loss
:29:40. > :29:46.there will be as he makes good on his promise to strike back against
:29:47. > :29:55.Hamas. We have a columnist and commentators from the Israeli
:29:56. > :29:58.newspaper. Thank you for joining us. It was interesting the end to that,
:29:59. > :30:02.talking about Binyamin Netanyahu's speech. He was asked by the families
:30:03. > :30:08.not to mention the Israeli response. I wonder what that tells us about
:30:09. > :30:16.the need to keep the politics and the private separate? Well, let's
:30:17. > :30:19.say something that is usually not said about Prime Minister Netherton.
:30:20. > :30:27.Although he's hawkish, Conservative and not very courageous on trying to
:30:28. > :30:31.achieve peace, he's actually rather averse to extensive use of violence.
:30:32. > :30:36.His years in Government have been rather peaceful. We did not see
:30:37. > :30:42.breakthrough to peace, but he's not trigger happy, he's not enjoying
:30:43. > :30:47.getting into unnecessary wars, unlike some previous Israeli
:30:48. > :31:00.leaders. So what you see so far is actually that while Mr Abbas, and Mr
:31:01. > :31:06.N Binyamin Netanyahu, they are both trying to prevent escalation. Yet
:31:07. > :31:12.the situation is very explosive, any rocket that hits southern Israel and
:31:13. > :31:15.causing casualties can cause the retaliation, because it is very
:31:16. > :31:20.explosive and sensitive. But the different parties do not want
:31:21. > :31:23.escalation tonight. It looks as if there is an interesting cabinet
:31:24. > :31:31.split, some members talking of building up the settlement, naming
:31:32. > :31:35.them after the young teenagers, and there are warnings against this?
:31:36. > :31:39.Absolutely the extreme right in Israel, represented in the
:31:40. > :31:45.Government actually is calling for extreme actions of all sorts. So far
:31:46. > :31:53.the moderates and the cabinet, led by Prime Minister Netenyahu, under t
:31:54. > :31:56.influence of the military, a moderating factor, have been able to
:31:57. > :31:59.stop it. We don't know what tomorrow holds, but so far, actually
:32:00. > :32:05.throughout these two-and-a-half weeks of this tragedy, this horrible
:32:06. > :32:09.tragedy, you have seen mainly on the Israeli side, but also on the
:32:10. > :32:15.Palestinian Authority side, actually rather responsible behaviour, facing
:32:16. > :32:19.with this ghastly violence. Do you think, and Israel like any nation
:32:20. > :32:25.closes ranks when its young are killed, do you think it will be able
:32:26. > :32:32.to respond to this as a crime? If it knows who the perpetrators are, just
:32:33. > :32:36.to try them? Look there is always a battle for the soul of Israel. First
:32:37. > :32:40.of all there was something very impressive about the kind of
:32:41. > :32:44.combination of solidarity within Israel, and again a relatively
:32:45. > :32:48.restrained and responsible Government policy so far. But
:32:49. > :32:52.definitely the rage and the anger and the pain of the day are
:32:53. > :32:57.challenging the Government and cabinet and anything, this is a very
:32:58. > :33:00.sensitive moment, anything can go wrong in this kind of situation. I
:33:01. > :33:05.would like to point out that one of the things that makes the situation
:33:06. > :33:09.so dangerous is that we have had the collapse of the peace negotiations a
:33:10. > :33:13.few months ago. Actually nothing filled the vacuum, it is very
:33:14. > :33:18.dangerous in the Middle East all together. And definitely in Israel
:33:19. > :33:25.and Palestine, not to have an organising principle, not to have
:33:26. > :33:29.some stablising concept. Right now, specifically the parties, the
:33:30. > :33:33.leaders on both sides have been acting responsibly, but the fact
:33:34. > :33:39.that we do not have a political process, and the wish to have the
:33:40. > :33:43.finalal status agreement, this creates a very dangerous situation.
:33:44. > :33:51.We might survive this event, but the next one might really cause major
:33:52. > :33:55.escalation. When How to be a Woman exploded on
:33:56. > :34:00.to the scene, it was pretty clear a new voice of feminism was launched
:34:01. > :34:05.loud and clear, it shrouded from the roof tops or a chair more
:34:06. > :34:11.explicitly, it was funnier, self-deprecating, allowing for the
:34:12. > :34:19.inconsistencies that belie any attempt at doctrine. It was Caitlin
:34:20. > :34:24.Moran, she has a new book, of a young woman growing up in the 1990s
:34:25. > :34:29.wanting to be a music journalist. Now an extract from The Horse's
:34:30. > :34:38.Mouth, it contains language that some might find offensive. "I feel
:34:39. > :34:43.excitingly free. Things were going to happen to me last night that I
:34:44. > :34:47.did not like, and I stopped them. I have never prevented my own doom
:34:48. > :34:52.before. I have never stood in the path of uncertain happiness and told
:34:53. > :34:57.myself, lovingly, like a mother to myself, no, this unhappiness will
:34:58. > :35:02.not suit you. Turn around and go another way. I have previously been
:35:03. > :35:06.resigned to any and all fates ahead, mute and compliant, worried about
:35:07. > :35:10.seeming weird or unfuckable, or about making a fuss. But now, things
:35:11. > :35:15.have changed. Because it seems I'm now the kind of girl who can
:35:16. > :35:20.instigate a threesome and then cancel a threesome and then order a
:35:21. > :35:24.cab. I'm in charge of me. I can change fates, I can reorder
:35:25. > :35:29.evenings. I can say yes, and then say no. And this is new information
:35:30. > :35:35.to me. And I like this information, I like all information about me.
:35:36. > :35:43.Because I'm compiling a dossier, I'm my own specialist subject. You spent
:35:44. > :35:47.a lot of the day with us, thank you very much. It was my absolute
:35:48. > :35:52.pleasure. And mainly because I get out of childcare and it is really
:35:53. > :35:59.interesting to find out there is a television in the corner playing the
:36:00. > :36:05.World Cup. We have turned -- It turned around now in case someone
:36:06. > :36:11.scores! Your novel goes straight in because on the first few pages the
:36:12. > :36:15.heroine is masterbating? It is a great way to start a novel. The more
:36:16. > :36:18.you are not supposed to write about something I want to write about it.
:36:19. > :36:22.Not to be controversial, but it is why, these are the things that drive
:36:23. > :36:26.you nuts. So much of being a girl is visceral and you are not allowed to
:36:27. > :36:30.speak about it. When I wrote How to be a Woman is each chapter is
:36:31. > :36:37.something you are supposed to keep Crete, master a decision,
:36:38. > :36:41.menstruation, eating discords, hair. I thought these are the things that
:36:42. > :36:46.drive us nuts and these are the things that keep us deO'pressed. I
:36:47. > :36:49.found it funny. It is interesting that is the controversial things, we
:36:50. > :36:52.are on a news show talking about war and death and all these appalling
:36:53. > :36:58.things, and still to open a book with a 13-year-old girl doing
:36:59. > :37:04.something pleasant and relaxing is kind of like ahhh. It is fully
:37:05. > :37:07.accepted that teenage sex drive for teenage boys is full on, did you
:37:08. > :37:12.feel it was important to portray girls with a healthy sex drive? No
:37:13. > :37:17.hugely. There is a bit in the book where she's talking about how she
:37:18. > :37:20.wants to be a lady sex pirate and adventurer, that reclaiming of
:37:21. > :37:28.sexuality. I started writing the book because I was in a huge fury of
:37:29. > :37:35.anger after reading Fifty Shades of Grey. There was a massive feminist
:37:36. > :37:42.argument that we needed to have an argument, but to surmise the plot, a
:37:43. > :37:48.young virgin who meets an older man, who says if you let me spank you on
:37:49. > :37:53.the clitoris I will buy you an iPad, I thought this is not female
:37:54. > :37:57.sexuality. I want to write something funny and dirty who wants to do
:37:58. > :38:03.things. What is the word "slag" meaning to you? I'm using it
:38:04. > :38:06.cheerfully, if it is used in anger that is awful. Is it when a woman
:38:07. > :38:12.sleeps around a lot, is that something you would encourage? That
:38:13. > :38:17.is your lady sex adventurers? Again it is quite a good hobby. The two
:38:18. > :38:21.hobbies I think any teenage girl should have, masturbation is a very
:38:22. > :38:24.good and calming one, maybe for country walks and then the
:38:25. > :38:28.revolution, those are the three hobbies for any teenage girl.
:38:29. > :38:31.Sleeping around as long as you are doing safely with people you like,
:38:32. > :38:37.it is a nice way of meeting people and having interesting
:38:38. > :38:44.conversations. Your novel could be read as a Marxist treaty, it is
:38:45. > :38:48.about the benefits system, dependency, what is going on. The
:38:49. > :38:52.heroine says everything could be solved with more money? Yeah, it
:38:53. > :38:55.isn't just rude stuff, it isn't just shagging, there is lots of stuff.
:38:56. > :38:58.The two main things I wanted to write about were sex and class.
:38:59. > :39:03.Because one of the things I had repeatedly said to me since I became
:39:04. > :39:08.famous and successful that I was not working-class or middle-class. Seen
:39:09. > :39:14.though I speak in a middle-class voice I'm still from the ghetto in
:39:15. > :39:17.Wolverhampton. As soon as you get money the middle-classes coopt you,
:39:18. > :39:21.the only thing left for the working-class is failure, you can
:39:22. > :39:25.never be rich and successful and working-class. There is such a
:39:26. > :39:29.difference between middle and working-class culture, I wanted to
:39:30. > :39:33.set it in the 1990s becau that is the last time that working-class was
:39:34. > :39:36.supreme, all the bands, working-class bands, people would
:39:37. > :39:41.pretend to be working-class. Is this where you get your words, your
:39:42. > :39:44.socio-political freak on. What would you say to young people now who
:39:45. > :39:48.believe politics is a waste of time. That all politicians are the same,
:39:49. > :39:52.even Jeremy, come to that! What do you say to people who are just
:39:53. > :39:56.starting out? I know this is the hopefully if this sells this is the
:39:57. > :40:00.first of a trilogy, the next one is how to be famous and then how to
:40:01. > :40:03.change the world. I want to write about politics and explain it to
:40:04. > :40:08.people. I was brought up with a dad who was a big trade unionist and
:40:09. > :40:10.been brought up very poor he explained the history of the labour
:40:11. > :40:13.movement to me and how everything has changed in this country is
:40:14. > :40:17.because people went out and changed it. People in power will never hand
:40:18. > :40:21.power down to people you have to go and ask for power. Is it going to be
:40:22. > :40:25.done through the political system? Not currently now, it needs to be
:40:26. > :40:30.from the grassroots up. One of the books I want to write. It seems nuts
:40:31. > :40:33.to me you had labour movement in a pre-Twitter era it was collections
:40:34. > :40:34.and sending MPs to parliament who would represent their
:40:35. > :40:40.constituencies, now the idea of doing that, which is kind of why I'm
:40:41. > :40:45.in favour of UKIP, because I find them incredibly inspiring, if this
:40:46. > :40:49.useful bunch of ass-hats have got to this point where they control the
:40:50. > :40:52.political debate. Imagine a good UKIP having these conversations and
:40:53. > :40:57.how quickly they would change things. Misogyny, I wonder if you
:40:58. > :41:02.think that we missed that, my generation or the generation before
:41:03. > :41:06.us accepted it as the last bastion of offensiveness that was OK. We
:41:07. > :41:11.have ruled out race and religious crimes and homophobia, and yet some
:41:12. > :41:17.how the women got forgotten. Still there is that viral thing that is
:41:18. > :41:20.going on at the moment do it like a girl, they ask people to do their
:41:21. > :41:25.impression of running and throwing like a girl, being a girl is still
:41:26. > :41:29.seen as a bad thing, that is where I wanted to write a book about a girl
:41:30. > :41:32.who followed her will and desire and learned from her mistakes and wanted
:41:33. > :41:36.to be a good and noble person, not pretty, good and noble a have a
:41:37. > :41:40.really good time. Those things are key, it should be pleasurable to be
:41:41. > :41:46.a woman, we still see ourselves as a massive list of problems. It took me
:41:47. > :41:52.until I was 34 I'm alive, to realise that, I'm entertaining and I work
:41:53. > :41:55.hard and I can do things. When the remaining members of Monty Python
:41:56. > :41:58.announced they would return for one last reunion
:41:59. > :42:05.announced they would return for one quick to pick up the tickets. It
:42:06. > :42:08.sold out in 44 seconds. Tonight the pythons took to the stage for the
:42:09. > :42:13.first of their ten performances. This is a little flavour of what is
:42:14. > :42:18.on offer. Who would have thought 40 years ago we would all be sitting
:42:19. > :42:24.here doing Monty Python! # I'm a lumber Jack and I'm OK, I
:42:25. > :42:33.work all night and sleep all day # He's a lumberjack and he's OK.
:42:34. > :42:38.Is your wife a goer, know what I mean, know what I mean, say no more.
:42:39. > :42:47.I beg your pardon? Your wife, does she go. Well joining us now the
:42:48. > :42:54.comedian Marcus Bridgestock, she go. Well joining us now the
:42:55. > :42:58.Asha Atalar, who produced the TV show The Office, they have dashed
:42:59. > :43:02.across London to give us your thoughts. Lovely to have you both
:43:03. > :43:05.here. We were amazed you made it? We missed the end to come and tell you
:43:06. > :43:11.how good and enjoyable the whole thing was. Quite inconvenient being
:43:12. > :43:18.here? Spoil add lovely evening of comedy. Was it great? You go first
:43:19. > :43:22.because you are less of a man. I came out more of a fan than I went
:43:23. > :43:29.in. I was nervous for them because you don't want to ruin -- you are
:43:30. > :43:36.less of a fan than I was. I was nervous for them, I thought tonight
:43:37. > :43:41.was patchy, the production was great, they filled the O2 and didn't
:43:42. > :43:47.let themselves down. The people were waiting for the catch phrases,
:43:48. > :43:51.massive ripple of laughter. Slightly shaky first night in places. They
:43:52. > :43:55.expanded on the stuff people knew, they expanded out and did new
:43:56. > :44:00.things, at the end they turned a lot of the familiar sketch, afterwards
:44:01. > :44:03.into a big huge production number. People have said on-line about the
:44:04. > :44:10.price of tickets, for any of these sorts of things. I think you are
:44:11. > :44:13.getting an awful lot on stage. John Cleese said there was no new
:44:14. > :44:17.material? There was a tonne of new material, loads, not whole new
:44:18. > :44:26.sketches really, but different versions of things. Like what? They
:44:27. > :44:30.expanded out their "isn't it awfully nice to have a penis" song, to
:44:31. > :44:35.include the ladies. And one for everybody as well with the bottoms.
:44:36. > :44:39.And they did a lovely dance number for "sit on my face and tell me that
:44:40. > :44:42.you love me". It was liesly choreographed. Why should they do
:44:43. > :44:45.new material because people were going to see the old material, I
:44:46. > :44:52.thought that was an unfair accusation. That Mick Jagger line, a
:44:53. > :44:57.bunch of wrinkly old men trying to relief their youth when he did the
:44:58. > :45:04.promo for them? He's not wrong. They were candid they did it a bit for
:45:05. > :45:07.money didn't they? Cleese has a very expensive divorce, several. They are
:45:08. > :45:10.not the only people in Britain to go to work to earn money. There is
:45:11. > :45:13.nothing really wrong with that, I think there is only something wrong
:45:14. > :45:19.with that if you short change your fans massively. And they didn't. I
:45:20. > :45:24.have seen younger men put on more lazy shows than those guys. Thanks.
:45:25. > :45:29.I did mean you! I don't think anyone would think that. Where did it fall
:45:30. > :45:33.down for you, did it feel dated? It did feel a bit dated but that's sort
:45:34. > :45:38.of the joy of it, you don't go there to see a contemporary Monty Python.
:45:39. > :45:41.There were times when their age, there is nothing wrong with old
:45:42. > :45:45.people doing comedy, there should be more of it. We were saying in the
:45:46. > :45:52.car that sometimes they didn't quite have the energy to push through a
:45:53. > :45:57.couple of sketches, it felt they were sagging. I wouldn't be
:45:58. > :46:02.surprised if it came through in the next few shows. They played in a lot
:46:03. > :46:05.of footage but I have seen it before. We will try to get you the
:46:06. > :46:10.ending. That is it for tonight, we leave you with a journalist from
:46:11. > :46:14.Kansas City who performed a social experiment by sending a photograph
:46:15. > :46:19.of herself to 40 Photoshop designers in different countries around the
:46:20. > :46:24.world, she gave each one the same instruction, make me look beautiful
:46:25. > :47:14.in a fashion magazine. Here is what they sent back.
:47:15. > :47:19.On Wednesday England and Wales will see the best of the sunshine, for
:47:20. > :47:22.Scotland and Northern Ireland, it is a bright start to the day. But the
:47:23. > :47:26.winds will pick up, more cloud arriving for the afternoon, as the
:47:27. > :47:31.rain sets its way in and moves further south. It might produce some
:47:32. > :47:32.patchy light rain along the north coast of Northern Ireland. Further
:47:33. > :47:34.south it stays