:00:08. > :00:14.The cease-fire in Gaza is over as Palestinian rockets hit Tel Aviv.
:00:15. > :00:20.There were no Israeli injuries, but they retaliation upon Gaza City was
:00:21. > :00:23.lethal. We will hear from a senior Palestinian politician and Daniel
:00:24. > :00:29.Barenboim, the maestro who conducts his famous orchestra who has hard
:00:30. > :00:36.words for Israel. It has not given Israel the security it hoped for. In
:00:37. > :00:46.the end, to put it bluntly, the Pelleas Dineen -- the Palestinians
:00:47. > :00:50.suffer and Israel loses. Are Mark Carney's wrong predictions making
:00:51. > :00:58.him seem like the unreliable pilot of monetary policy? A retiring
:00:59. > :01:02.Labour MP lets rip about the problem of too many women in Parliament.
:01:03. > :01:10.Stella Creasy is here and she is not smiling.
:01:11. > :01:19.Good evening. Nine days of relative peace for Gazans and Israelis is no
:01:20. > :01:23.more and the deadly pattern has resumed. Gaza says there have been
:01:24. > :01:27.35 air strikes and another Palestinian child is reportedly
:01:28. > :01:33.dead. Hamas said they have fired 40 rockets at Israel. Israeli bomb
:01:34. > :01:40.shelters are open again and earlier today Israel calls its negotiators
:01:41. > :01:44.back from Cairo claiming Hamas had breached the cease-fire. Our
:01:45. > :01:49.correspondent is in Gaza City. Yolande Knell, first of all, what is
:01:50. > :01:55.happening in Gaza City tonight? Right now, you might be able to hear
:01:56. > :02:00.the sound of Israeli drones once again. We have seen in the past few
:02:01. > :02:04.minutes Palestinian rockets being fired towards Israel and we have
:02:05. > :02:17.seen through the past few hours Israeli has strikes -- Israeli air
:02:18. > :02:23.strikes. Close to our office in Gaza City, we heard four or five blasts
:02:24. > :02:30.as there was an Israeli air strike targeting a house. This is work a
:02:31. > :02:35.small girl, we are told, was killed along with two Palestinian women.
:02:36. > :02:39.Also 15 people had to be dug out of the rubble, many of them badly
:02:40. > :02:44.injured. These are scenes the likes of which are zones thought they had
:02:45. > :02:53.put behind them after the recent lull in the fighting -- which the
:02:54. > :03:04.cars ons. -- Gazans. Apparently one was aimed at Ben Gurion Airport? We
:03:05. > :03:09.know Israel's Iron Dome Israel -- Iron Dome defence system has
:03:10. > :03:17.intercepted some, but we are told a rocket landed close to the airport.
:03:18. > :03:31.This will have been of huge symbiotic significance for the
:03:32. > :03:38.Israelis. They said it was partly on revenge for the killing of members
:03:39. > :03:42.of the family here in Gaza City. Also Hamas blaming Israel for the
:03:43. > :03:47.collapse in the cease-fire. Israel says it is Hamas that is
:03:48. > :03:53.responsible. The business of whether or not either side was getting
:03:54. > :03:58.anything out of the negotiations or either side was prepared to
:03:59. > :04:03.compromise, what actually happened? In Egypt, we had repeated signs that
:04:04. > :04:07.little progress was being made in the indirect talks to try to broker
:04:08. > :04:12.a longer term cease-fire deal between Israel and the Palestinians,
:04:13. > :04:16.with the Egyptians acting as go-betweens. Intelligence officers
:04:17. > :04:23.having delegations in separate rooms, trying to put to them a
:04:24. > :04:26.proposal to address Israel's security concerns. It has been
:04:27. > :04:30.demanding the demons drive version of Gaza. The Palestinians in turn
:04:31. > :04:40.have been demanding and easing to the tight border restrictions -- the
:04:41. > :04:43.demilitarisation of Gaza. We understood already that it was
:04:44. > :04:48.proving very difficult to reach any kind of compromise that both sides
:04:49. > :04:56.could sell to their own publics. Joining us from Ramallah in the West
:04:57. > :05:03.Bank is Mustafa Barghouti, former Palestinian presidential candidate.
:05:04. > :05:07.Good evening. Was it the case with the negotiations appearing to go
:05:08. > :05:13.nowhere that Hamas fired three rockets which eventually broke the
:05:14. > :05:19.cease-fire? Well, the most important problem has been that the talks did
:05:20. > :05:26.not move an inch for 18 days because Israel rejected and refused every
:05:27. > :05:28.proposal presented by the Egyptians. Benjamin Netanyahu and his
:05:29. > :05:33.government clearly had the intention of making the cease-fire fail and
:05:34. > :05:38.preventing an agreement of a long lasting cease-fire. Had the three
:05:39. > :05:49.rockets not been fired, the chances are... Maybe the deadlock... Maybe
:05:50. > :05:52.do, say she would have continued. Unfortunately the western media is
:05:53. > :05:56.reporting this single act of violation of the cease-fire, but
:05:57. > :05:59.they never reported the fact that Israel violated the cease-fire in
:06:00. > :06:04.three different ways. In every minute of every cease-fire, it
:06:05. > :06:10.Israel continued to fly a military planes over Gaza. They also fired at
:06:11. > :06:16.the farmers working in Gaza and their ships continue to fire on the
:06:17. > :06:22.fishermen who are trying to fish on the shore of Gaza. In reality,
:06:23. > :06:28.Israel violated the cease-fire, but negotiations did not stop. The three
:06:29. > :06:31.rockets were not fired by Hamas. Whoever fired them may be violated
:06:32. > :06:36.the agreement but it was not an excuse for all of the attacks by the
:06:37. > :06:41.Israelis which started to take the lives of children and civilians
:06:42. > :06:46.again. If Hamas did not fire the three rockets, it is fair to say
:06:47. > :06:53.that Hamas is in charge of security in Gaza and they should be able to
:06:54. > :06:58.stop any renegades. That is Hamas's responsibility. I am not sure if
:06:59. > :07:03.Hamas is responsible for security since Israel is not clarifying
:07:04. > :07:08.whether it is occupying Gaza or not. If you have an interview with any
:07:09. > :07:13.Israeli official, I wish you would ask them the question, is Israel
:07:14. > :07:17.occupying Gaza and if it is, why is it bombarding people there, killings
:07:18. > :07:23.of millions, killing mainly women and children -- killing civilians,
:07:24. > :07:29.and injuring more than 10,000 people? If it is not occupying Gaza,
:07:30. > :07:32.why is it imposingly blockade and preventing Palestinians having free
:07:33. > :07:41.access to the world, why is it causing this terrible humanitarian
:07:42. > :07:43.crisis? In reality, there was a very good opportunity... Let us talk
:07:44. > :07:50.about the opportunity. There are several groups, in the
:07:51. > :07:55.negotiations, including Hamas and Fatah. What were the Palestinian
:07:56. > :07:59.groups, and I know you are not in the negotiations, but what were the
:08:00. > :08:05.Palestinian groups offering up on the leek as a compromise? I met with
:08:06. > :08:10.the negotiators -- offering up as a compromise? I met with the
:08:11. > :08:14.negotiating team when it was preparing its final paper that would
:08:15. > :08:20.be presented to the Egyptian side, to pass to the Israelis. The
:08:21. > :08:24.Palestinian delegation was an agreement, there was no
:08:25. > :08:32.disagreement. An agreement that there will be a lasting and complete
:08:33. > :08:42.cease-fire, lasting one, in addition to lifting the blockade of Gaza.
:08:43. > :08:46.Today Israel is in contradiction not with Hamas, but with all
:08:47. > :08:49.Palestinians, including the Palestinian Authority. The
:08:50. > :08:54.delegation in Cairo was headed by a representative of the Palestinian
:08:55. > :08:58.Authority. To claim it is a fight with Hamas is not right, it is a
:08:59. > :09:03.fight with all the Palestinian people. In my opinion, Israel and
:09:04. > :09:10.Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to consolidate their occupation in Gaza
:09:11. > :09:14.and they are trying to impose this siege and suffocate Palestinians not
:09:15. > :09:23.only in Gaza but also in the West Bank where attacks to -- continue to
:09:24. > :09:26.happen. Evidence Israelis and Arabs can live and work in harmony is the
:09:27. > :09:32.West-Eastern Divan Orchestra founded and led for the last 15 years by one
:09:33. > :09:36.of the world's leading conductors. Daniel Barenboim's orchestra made up
:09:37. > :09:39.of young Israelis, Palestinians and others from neighbouring countries
:09:40. > :09:43.will perform at the Proms tomorrow and the programme will include
:09:44. > :09:47.specially commissioned works by composers of Israeli and Arabic
:09:48. > :09:52.origin. I spoke to Daniel Barenboim earlier and asked how the situation
:09:53. > :10:05.in Gaza had affected his orchestra. It is a very tragic moment. It is a
:10:06. > :10:14.moment of horrific violence. Something that even this region that
:10:15. > :10:21.has seen so much violence has seldom experienced. In the end, you see the
:10:22. > :10:28.suffering of the Palestinians, with so many children and young people
:10:29. > :10:33.killed in Gaza, over 50% of the population of Gaza is under 15 years
:10:34. > :10:43.old. So think of the hatred that this has left for the future. Nobody
:10:44. > :10:49.in this case things of tomorrow, let alone the Day after tomorrow. And it
:10:50. > :10:54.has not given Israel the security had hoped for. In the end, to put it
:10:55. > :10:58.bluntly and crudely, the Palestinians suffer and the Israelis
:10:59. > :11:08.lose so what is the point of it? Powers the orchestra changing and
:11:09. > :11:16.evolving? -- how is. In the present situation with Gaza, I was sure some
:11:17. > :11:20.people would back out and would cancel, saying, I cannot now play
:11:21. > :11:29.with the other. And I would have understood it. I am so happy and so
:11:30. > :11:37.proud, I say that unashamedly, so proud but not one musician cancelled
:11:38. > :11:44.coming. Will it be harder, do you think, to recruit for the orchestra?
:11:45. > :11:51.Is it harder now? The political situation now is much worse than 15
:11:52. > :12:05.years ago. So the simple answer is, yes. The more complex answer is, it
:12:06. > :12:10.is more complicated, rather than more difficult. Do you think it will
:12:11. > :12:15.give an added a motion to tomorrow night's performance? Everyone is
:12:16. > :12:19.watching Palestinians playing their instruments in harmony with Israelis
:12:20. > :12:25.and vice versa -- added emotion. A few days ago we played in
:12:26. > :12:33.Switzerland. In the middle of this, I realised, there comes the flute
:12:34. > :12:37.solo, I looked and this group of Arabs in the orchestra were wishing
:12:38. > :12:44.him the best and were trying to support him. And a few minutes
:12:45. > :12:50.later, when it was the clarinet, the group of Israelis, as part of the
:12:51. > :12:56.orchestra, supported him too. Where else do you have that? What do you
:12:57. > :13:05.feel about boycotting arts events run by Israeli companies? I think I
:13:06. > :13:18.can understand the impulse to boycott things that come from a
:13:19. > :13:27.country that has not shown enough interest in advancing a peaceful
:13:28. > :13:38.solution which many Palestinians rightly feel. I can understand that.
:13:39. > :13:46.I think one has to differentiate between Israelis who represent the
:13:47. > :13:51.government and cultural people or institutions that do not represent
:13:52. > :13:56.the government. I think that to say I boycott everything that is
:13:57. > :13:59.Israeli, though emotionally may be understandable, it is
:14:00. > :14:05.counter-productive. I think it has to be very clearly defined and I
:14:06. > :14:23.think above all it must not turn into an anti-Semitic tendency. I
:14:24. > :14:27.think the wave of the so-called anti-Semitism, which is in fact
:14:28. > :14:34.anti-Jewish, in the world, is unacceptable. Not only unacceptable
:14:35. > :14:44.because of the history. In the end all its doors is give Hitler a
:14:45. > :14:47.posthumous victory. In 2012 were part of the Olympic opening
:14:48. > :14:51.ceremony. You brought harmony weather was discord and must've been
:14:52. > :15:00.a big for you. Were you more optimistic then than now? I have
:15:01. > :15:06.optimism because the world Nevers tops. It always continue. Everyone
:15:07. > :15:12.who has his own personal tragedy in some way or other overcomes these
:15:13. > :15:20.tragedies. And the world develops and goes on. If you tried to look
:15:21. > :15:26.realistically, the world looks terrible now. It looks like the Pope
:15:27. > :15:41.said, on the brink of a third world war. Ukraine, Iraq, the Middle East.
:15:42. > :15:48.But we do not have the luxury of bathing in pessimism. We really do
:15:49. > :15:54.not. It only makes it worse. We have to continue and when we do not
:15:55. > :16:00.believe we have to make believe and eventually make our way.
:16:01. > :16:03.It's the thing that politicians fear and we're told must never
:16:04. > :16:06.But when it plummets, does that create
:16:07. > :16:10.Figures out this morning revealed that consumer price
:16:11. > :16:15.Much weaker than had been expected and well below the Bank of England's
:16:16. > :16:20.So where does this all leave the prospect of interest rate increases?
:16:21. > :16:23.Mark Carney's much heralded arrival as governor of the Bank was
:16:24. > :16:26.a year ago now so does he still look like a white knight?
:16:27. > :16:33.Our Economics Correspondent Duncan Weldon reports.
:16:34. > :16:41.When will interest rates go up? Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor
:16:42. > :16:46.since July last year, is the man supposed to have the answers. When
:16:47. > :16:50.he took over he stressed our important it was that the bank was
:16:51. > :16:56.clear on those things. -- how important. The monetary policy
:16:57. > :17:03.committee must clear and transparent to avoid an unwarranted tightening
:17:04. > :17:08.in interest rate expectations as the recovery gathers strength. One year
:17:09. > :17:13.on the timings of rate rises are far from clear. Unexpectedly weak
:17:14. > :17:16.inflation has added to the confusion. And some of the confusion
:17:17. > :17:22.seems to be coming from the governor himself. We're looking at March for
:17:23. > :17:27.the first right interest rates. But depending on what Mark Carney says
:17:28. > :17:33.day by day, those are shifting significantly. When the so-called
:17:34. > :17:39.rock star central banker was poached from Canada to come to the UK, few
:17:40. > :17:43.expected such confusion. He is the most qualified person in the world
:17:44. > :17:50.to be the next governor of the bank of England. Back when Mark Carney
:17:51. > :17:54.was appointed the economy looked to be facing a triple dip recession.
:17:55. > :18:01.How could he used monetary policy to boost growth? His big idea was
:18:02. > :18:06.forward guidance. By pledging to keep interest rates low he helped to
:18:07. > :18:09.increase confidence in consumers and businesses and persuade high street
:18:10. > :18:15.banks to boost their own lending. But that pledge to keep rates low
:18:16. > :18:20.for longer was based on a set of economic forecasts which rapidly
:18:21. > :18:25.went off track. Forward guidance was first unveiled last year. The bank
:18:26. > :18:30.was clear. It would not even consider raising interest rates
:18:31. > :18:34.until unemployment fell below 7%. And it did not think that would
:18:35. > :18:39.happen until 2016. But it happened earlier this year. So instead of
:18:40. > :18:42.looking at the unemployment rate the bank said it would examine a range
:18:43. > :18:48.of indicators of spare capacity in the economy. But those measures of
:18:49. > :18:54.spare capacity started to fall fast. Now we have another new focus, this
:18:55. > :18:57.time wages. At least one critical former member of the monetary
:18:58. > :19:03.committee is not impressed. If you were to say we do not quite know
:19:04. > :19:07.what is happening, things are complicated and we will follow the
:19:08. > :19:13.data, you can give it a fancy name. But that is essentially what it
:19:14. > :19:17.amounted to and in the end it has come down to an analysis of the
:19:18. > :19:21.labour market and the central bank in the UK under Mark Carney has
:19:22. > :19:28.looked hopeless. It has been taken by surprise. Mark Carney might be
:19:29. > :19:33.the governor but the monetary policy committee actually takes the
:19:34. > :19:37.decision and he is just one vote out of nine. And those nine members are
:19:38. > :19:42.looking at different data. We watching so many metrics and many of
:19:43. > :19:52.those running hot and many cold. It is a difficult task to unpick that.
:19:53. > :19:55.There's no shame in getting your economic forecasts wrong. Most
:19:56. > :20:02.economists get the forecasts wrong most of the time. What is starting
:20:03. > :20:06.to bother critics of the governor is the feeling that the goalposts keep
:20:07. > :20:12.moving. One day it is wages that matter, the next unemployment. In
:20:13. > :20:17.one speech he reassures us that rates will remain low and then he
:20:18. > :20:21.warns that they could have to rise. It is that perceived inconsistency
:20:22. > :20:26.that led one MP to say he's acting like an unreliable boyfriend,
:20:27. > :20:32.blowing hot and cold. So when will rates actually rise? Today we are no
:20:33. > :20:35.closer to an answer. What can be said with confidence is that written
:20:36. > :20:43.statements from the Bank of England have not exactly made the situation
:20:44. > :20:47.any clearer. With me to discuss the prospects for forward guidance is a
:20:48. > :20:56.former member of the monetary policy committee. Forward guidance turned
:20:57. > :21:01.out not to be guidance at all? Guidance is difficult to go with
:21:02. > :21:07.when the goalposts to keep changing. The narrative of the Bank of England
:21:08. > :21:09.changes all the time was up there is inconsistency about what they are
:21:10. > :21:16.trying to measure. When they talk about slack in the economy it is an
:21:17. > :21:21.opaque thing and does move a lot. Mark Carney has undermined the
:21:22. > :21:26.credibility of the bank with this? It was the wrong analysis of the
:21:27. > :21:31.labour market for a start? You have to start with the analytical
:21:32. > :21:34.problems. Forward guidance I forecast was going to be a mistake
:21:35. > :21:40.because it focused on what the bank was doing rather than on the
:21:41. > :21:43.forecasts. You have to put things in terms of the forecasts. As you noted
:21:44. > :21:48.in that report a number of members of the monetary policy committee,
:21:49. > :21:54.kept getting it wrong on the labour markets. They were pessimistic about
:21:55. > :22:01.labour supply and about UK product safety and those were mistaken
:22:02. > :22:08.ideas. It seems now that it is low interest rates at any cost. The
:22:09. > :22:13.unemployment forecast is now 6.6. There is no question that will not
:22:14. > :22:20.be rise in interest rates, is there? There is going to be a rise
:22:21. > :22:25.and maybe now it will be February instead of November. But the bias of
:22:26. > :22:30.the committee, not just Mark Carney, has been to say that there is no
:22:31. > :22:34.slack left in the UK economy. It is quite a fake concept but as long as
:22:35. > :22:43.they keep insisting on that then they will be biased towards interest
:22:44. > :22:48.rate rises. What do you do about that? You hold fire and you phrased
:22:49. > :22:52.things consistently in terms of forecasts. You say is not about what
:22:53. > :22:57.I was about to do in future, you said we think growth is going to
:22:58. > :23:01.lead to inflation only if productivity... It turns out
:23:02. > :23:06.employment and productivity were better than we thought and that the
:23:07. > :23:10.bubbly means we should revise our pessimism about the UK. That
:23:11. > :23:14.probably means there is less inflation potential. You have to
:23:15. > :23:17.make an argument and it is not that complicated. The other thing is you
:23:18. > :23:22.do not talk so much. There's a question about why the governor is
:23:23. > :23:26.always out there making a new statement every week. There is a
:23:27. > :23:34.reason why central bank governors generally do not talk this often.
:23:35. > :23:42.You do not want to create confusion. We all know George Osborne would
:23:43. > :23:47.mark Carney to get him here. And now he is being encouraged to talk to
:23:48. > :23:53.supposedly increase our confidence in the economy. He does talk a lot.
:23:54. > :23:59.The forward -- the problem with forward guidance is that it brings
:24:00. > :24:04.the decision very much into the public arena. Mark Carney is trying
:24:05. > :24:09.to assure people that interest rates will not move as the economy
:24:10. > :24:15.changes. That is perhaps why Ely he is providing so much narrative. The
:24:16. > :24:21.problem with forward guidance if people have to believe it for a to
:24:22. > :24:25.work. People do not really believe what Mark Carney is saying to a
:24:26. > :24:35.certain extent. If they do not believe him... I want to emphasise
:24:36. > :24:39.what people do believe and that is that inflation will stay low. So the
:24:40. > :24:45.public and expectations of credibility of the bank have been
:24:46. > :24:51.affected. If there is a doubt about Mark Carney it is the fact, is he
:24:52. > :24:57.making political decisions, in a sense. Is he in cahoots with George
:24:58. > :25:03.Osborne who does not want interest rates to rise? I think the problem
:25:04. > :25:10.is not with him but with forward guidance. There are problems around
:25:11. > :25:14.communication. We've seen it happen before. The messages that people are
:25:15. > :25:21.trying to get across. The problem lies with forward guidance itself
:25:22. > :25:26.rather than with Mark Carney. In terms of whether interest rates will
:25:27. > :25:30.rise, market now expected to be in the early part of next year. There
:25:31. > :25:37.is still a chance it could happen this year. Mark Carney is saying he
:25:38. > :25:43.is looking for wage growth. If you have wage growth that does not
:25:44. > :25:48.actually materialise, low wages and rising house prices and even a
:25:49. > :25:55.quarter percent increase in interest rates, up to 1 million families will
:25:56. > :26:02.be hurting with their mortgages in the lead up to a general election? I
:26:03. > :26:05.think the Bank of England is supposed to be an independent body
:26:06. > :26:11.and will not focus on the general election. Is that the
:26:12. > :26:21.consideration? I think the only consideration is you do not move
:26:22. > :26:26.rates right to run the election. You do not get right in the middle of an
:26:27. > :26:35.election and I -- and I think that is fair and reasonable. But it is a
:26:36. > :26:42.political move? Not at all. It is a party neutral move. You can raise
:26:43. > :26:47.rates in March, June, February. Just not raising them and cause a
:26:48. > :26:53.disruption right at the time of an election. That is not biased towards
:26:54. > :26:59.any one party and it is not about affecting the election. It is the
:27:00. > :27:03.central bank making the best choice it can to stay out of politics.
:27:04. > :27:06."We over-policed for a few days, and then we completely under-policed."
:27:07. > :27:09.That's the verdict by the Missouri Democrat Senator Claire MCCaskill
:27:10. > :27:11.on the police tactics following the fatal shooting of unarmed black
:27:12. > :27:16.Today a top UN Human Rights official Navi Pillay, speaking in Geneva,
:27:17. > :27:20.said that the clashes between police and protestors in Ferguson were
:27:21. > :27:23.reminiscient of the racial violence spawned by apartheid in her native
:27:24. > :27:27.South Africa and called for an examination of the "root causes" of
:27:28. > :27:43.This is surely the last thing anyone wanted. A few hours ago the police
:27:44. > :27:49.in St Louis Missouri shot and killed a 23-year-old Lachmann, an event
:27:50. > :27:58.that may inflame an already tense local situation. -- black man. For
:27:59. > :28:04.more than a week Ferguson, a modest suburb of the city, has been wracked
:28:05. > :28:07.by protests. And sometimes violence. The unrest has provoked a ferocious
:28:08. > :28:15.police response. Last night there were 31 arrests.
:28:16. > :28:19.Protesters are peaceful and respectful. They do not clash with
:28:20. > :28:25.police. They do not throw Molotov cocktails. This rage was ignited by
:28:26. > :28:30.the killing of Michael Brown, an unarmed like a teenager, by Darren
:28:31. > :28:35.Wilson, a white police officer. On the 9th of August the recent high
:28:36. > :28:40.school graduate was shot six times. And his death has opened up once
:28:41. > :28:46.again the question of race in modern America. Of course I'm heartbroken
:28:47. > :28:50.to watch it but I cannot say I'm shocked. There has been simmering
:28:51. > :28:56.racial tension building in St Louis for years if not decades. Probably
:28:57. > :29:00.longer than that. This is something that for a lot of people who have
:29:01. > :29:07.paid attention to these issues, frankly, St Louis has been a
:29:08. > :29:13.powderkeg and something like this was almost bound to happen. Ferguson
:29:14. > :29:16.is a poor town and an empty one as well. Since 1970 the proposition is
:29:17. > :29:25.fallen by a quarter to about 21,000 people. But it only stayed that high
:29:26. > :29:34.because like families moved from the decaying city of St Louis. The
:29:35. > :29:39.majority black population occurred. Now two thirds of the town. But you
:29:40. > :29:43.would not know it to look at the people building the power. Look at
:29:44. > :29:47.the local school board and the city council. Of the 53 police officers
:29:48. > :29:52.in the town just four of them are black. Meanwhile black citizens
:29:53. > :29:58.account for 86% of all police stops. Having been stopped back people are
:29:59. > :30:01.less like it to be caught carrying contraband but there are twice as
:30:02. > :30:09.likely to be arrested. So just how unusual is the political imbalance
:30:10. > :30:15.in Ferguson on race? I examined a data set from 2001 consisting of all
:30:16. > :30:20.American cities with a population of more than 10,000. And examined the
:30:21. > :30:25.relationship between the percent of the city's opposition that is
:30:26. > :30:29.African-American and the percent of the city council that is
:30:30. > :30:35.African-American. Usually about 60% of the city and African-American you
:30:36. > :30:40.would tend to see Radha the City Council being African American.
:30:41. > :30:45.Ferguson was very different and really stood out from the trend.
:30:46. > :30:50.Back in 2001 at any rate, it had just over 50% of its population
:30:51. > :30:56.African-American and not African Americans on the city council. So
:30:57. > :31:02.why do black voters not just vote for more black leaders? There is
:31:03. > :31:08.certainly quite dominated clique that has controlled politics. They
:31:09. > :31:14.are tied in with the Labour unions. And these labour unions tend to get
:31:15. > :31:18.a lot of jobs from public sector construction and other contracts.
:31:19. > :31:23.Because they're able to do well there are then able to help fund
:31:24. > :31:27.campaigns of favoured allies and keep re-electing them to office.
:31:28. > :31:33.That ends up marginalising most of the black population. One can only
:31:34. > :31:39.hope these exchanges seized today. The racial goblins in Ferguson and
:31:40. > :31:50.St Louis cannot be solved overnight. -- problems. It is amazing how some
:31:51. > :31:55.politicians come forth with views they have been harbouring for many
:31:56. > :32:00.years. Austin Mitchell has to sided to get his concerns about the
:32:01. > :32:06.feminisation of Parliament off his chest. He wrote in the Mail on
:32:07. > :32:10.Sunday, the Commons will be more preoccupied with the local and small
:32:11. > :32:15.problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from
:32:16. > :32:17.obsessive feminism, women MPs are more preoccupied with the local and
:32:18. > :32:20.small problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from
:32:21. > :32:22.obsessive feminism, women MPs R but it might not make us tougher. Austin
:32:23. > :32:33.Mitchell joins us from Leeds. Stella Creasy, MP is here. Austin Mitchell
:32:34. > :32:39.first of all, why do you think women will be more preoccupied with small
:32:40. > :32:43.problems? Parliament is going that way anyway. We are becoming more
:32:44. > :32:48.like social workers than international statesman. I think it
:32:49. > :32:51.is right to contradict what you said in the introduction to the
:32:52. > :32:58.programmes that the number of women should be increased. Labour has done
:32:59. > :33:03.very well at that and all women short lists have been a good way of
:33:04. > :33:08.doing it but they are democratic. The choice that local constituencies
:33:09. > :33:13.have, it is the only one real power they do have, the choice is very
:33:14. > :33:18.limited. They short lists are very short. My argument is that we have
:33:19. > :33:26.done a lot, we have got the proportion of women up to 43% of the
:33:27. > :33:32.Labour Party. It is time now to let the parties choose who they want and
:33:33. > :33:43.call it a day. That is all I'm saying. I am surprised at the
:33:44. > :33:48.assault from my colleagues, as if I was attacking a sacred item. This is
:33:49. > :33:54.an article in the Mail on Sunday you wrote yourself. Stella Creasy, do
:33:55. > :33:59.you recognise you and other women are more concerned with small
:34:00. > :34:04.problems rather than big ideas? Are lies the drip drip, drip of
:34:05. > :34:13.discrimination and prejudice that women face in every sphere. I read
:34:14. > :34:25.it in sadness when I realised it had been written by you, Austin
:34:26. > :34:28.You are a male MP, Austin. If I said you think exactly the same things as
:34:29. > :34:35.Tony Blair, you would be horrified. Why don't you accord the same
:34:36. > :34:44.privilege to women? Don't hate me and hector me. I am sorry, there's
:34:45. > :34:48.the sound turned up, I am not shouting. I am frustrated that yet
:34:49. > :34:58.again we are seeing women being put down in this way. It is an all women
:34:59. > :35:05.short list that replaced Austin and a former aide to Ed Miliband will be
:35:06. > :35:08.in his constituency. Does he have a point that however laudable all
:35:09. > :35:13.women short lists are, they are not entirely democratic? There are still
:35:14. > :35:18.more men sat in Parliament today than there have ever been women
:35:19. > :35:22.MPs. What he is displaying is a great example of a study that Susan
:35:23. > :35:34.Sarandon did that if a room had 20% women in the ready room thought it
:35:35. > :35:39.was 50-50. If it has 30 stone women, the men think it is more women than
:35:40. > :35:46.men -- if it has 50% women. Labour MPs in Westminster do you think they
:35:47. > :35:53.hold the same view as you? Possibly. I have not asked them. The
:35:54. > :35:58.problem is really with the Conservative and Liberal parties.
:35:59. > :36:03.Let us stick with you. They have not increased the number of women. It is
:36:04. > :36:09.their turn to do something. Let local parties choose whether they
:36:10. > :36:18.want to have a longer short lists with more choice of different types
:36:19. > :36:22.of... Tell me, how many women is asked doing our duty in a party that
:36:23. > :36:29.is designed to promote social justice? Is there a particular
:36:30. > :36:38.number? I am not going to say the proportion. The proportion of women
:36:39. > :36:43.will be over 40%, about 43%. Not parity, not equality, that is
:36:44. > :36:54.enough, is it? I am not suggesting we should have... Let me move on. It
:36:55. > :36:59.damages us all. Countries more equal or more prosperous. We have been
:37:00. > :37:02.thrown massive recession. Having more diverse decision-making is good
:37:03. > :37:06.for everyone and that is the challenge we face. The Tories and
:37:07. > :37:10.the Liberals cannot get their act together, that is no excuse for us
:37:11. > :37:15.not to press on and stand for what we stand for. You said women are
:37:16. > :37:22.more amenable and readable. I can't get a word in. We need to increase
:37:23. > :37:28.the number of women. I agree with Stella. It is no use going on in
:37:29. > :37:36.this kind of fashion. I think women probably are Morley double. The
:37:37. > :37:43.problem will come if we have a 1974 situation or 1951 situation where
:37:44. > :37:49.Labour does not have a powerful majority -- I think women probably
:37:50. > :37:53.are more lead above. We are living in 2014. I am really sad you said
:37:54. > :37:58.this. I really enjoyed being on the Public Accounts Committee with you,
:37:59. > :38:02.with a really strong female chair, Margaret Hodge. She was not
:38:03. > :38:07.leaderboard. We are seeing the drip, drip, drip. Whether it is you,
:38:08. > :38:14.Johnson Johnson, women are being second-guessed by their gender. I do
:38:15. > :38:22.not think women standing for selection should have to either. Do
:38:23. > :38:27.you attract the article? Excluding men altogether on an all women short
:38:28. > :38:31.lists, that is the problem. Is it democratic to exclude one half? Do
:38:32. > :38:40.you think open selections are done on merit? Every political party...
:38:41. > :38:45.Most countries have a quota system because most recognised it is an
:38:46. > :38:51.incredibly solvable problem. We have made 4% progress in 15 years. Very
:38:52. > :38:55.quickly, put the record straight, would you like to see far more women
:38:56. > :39:03.in Parliament? Would you like to see 50%... Let him reply. I would. It is
:39:04. > :39:08.up to the Conservatives and Liberals to have more women on their side. On
:39:09. > :39:15.the Labour side, let us give it a rest and see whether... The barriers
:39:16. > :39:20.have been broken down enough. The last time we had all women short
:39:21. > :39:26.lists, the number increased after we stopped using them. When we stopped
:39:27. > :39:31.using them in 2001, it fell. There is nothing else that makes the
:39:32. > :39:34.difference. Let me have the right to say something on this programme and
:39:35. > :39:39.give local parties the right to choose who they want. Thank you very
:39:40. > :39:45.much indeed. Now, reports reaching us tonight that Islamic State
:39:46. > :39:50.insurgents have released a video that they claim shows the beheading
:39:51. > :39:58.of a US journalist who went missing in Syria almost two years ago. The
:39:59. > :40:04.video entitled Message To America was posted on social media sites. We
:40:05. > :40:07.should stress that at the moment we have no way of verifying the
:40:08. > :40:13.authenticity of the video and a Twitter account that had been set up
:40:14. > :40:18.by the man's family to help find him has called for patience until the
:40:19. > :40:21.authenticity of the video can be established. Of course we will not
:40:22. > :40:27.be showing it, but what has happened? James Foley was a
:40:28. > :40:31.freelance journalist working in the Middle East for a number of years.
:40:32. > :40:37.He went missing in late November, 2012. His family had not heard from
:40:38. > :40:42.her since -- from him since. Islamic State released a video today in
:40:43. > :40:47.which it claims to execute him, beheading him. We cannot, as you
:40:48. > :40:52.say, confirm it is him. His family through Twitter have said they are
:40:53. > :40:56.waiting. We can see a picture of James himself. But we do not know if
:40:57. > :41:01.this is the same person shown in the video. We do not even know yet if
:41:02. > :41:07.the video is legitimate. That is right. There is no indication when
:41:08. > :41:11.it was taken. All we know is it was released today and that it seems
:41:12. > :41:17.quite possible that it was filmed in either Iraq either Syria. The video
:41:18. > :41:22.claims the execution was carried out in response to US air strikes
:41:23. > :41:27.against Islamic State in Iraq and for many people it will bring back
:41:28. > :41:34.memories of for example very gruesome videos of a British civil
:41:35. > :41:40.engineer Ken Bigley executed by Al-Qaeda in Iraq in 2004. IS are
:41:41. > :41:45.claiming to be holding another journalist but we have nobody tell,
:41:46. > :41:50.is that correct? There is a lot of speculation about what is happening
:41:51. > :41:54.and counterclaims. That is in the interests of groups like Islamic
:41:55. > :41:58.State to say they have people in their possession in order to gain
:41:59. > :42:02.leveraged. One thing I should add is that the respected legend that the
:42:03. > :42:08.execute may have been speaking with a British accent. We cannot it. But
:42:09. > :42:11.I have spoken personally to Brits fighting in Iraq with Islamic State
:42:12. > :42:16.so it is not something we can rule out. Thank you. The front pages,
:42:17. > :42:22.obviously that story does not make them, it is too late, but the Daily
:42:23. > :42:30.Mail, Cilla Black, I know my pal is innocent. New violence as US police
:42:31. > :42:37.kill a second man in St Louis. NHS faces funding cut if Scotland says
:42:38. > :42:42.yes. And the Daily Mail, last of all, nurses on home visits cult to
:42:43. > :42:50.ask elderly people, do you want us to let you die? -- nurses on home
:42:51. > :42:55.visits to ask elderly people. That is it tonight. We end with a
:42:56. > :43:01.mysterious YouTube megastar known as Disney Collector. Her movies
:43:02. > :43:05.comprise of nothing more than her hands taking various toys out of
:43:06. > :43:11.packaging. Why is it in anyway interesting? Is not. Except the
:43:12. > :43:16.YouTube channel has somehow clocked up in a billion fits. -- hits. We
:43:17. > :43:24.have no idea why it has got so many. The last surprise is from Jake
:43:25. > :43:44.in the Netherlands. Let us see what we have got here. Hopefully we got
:43:45. > :43:58.another toy. In we go. Jake. This is awesome.
:43:59. > :44:05.It is going to be a cold start in the morning. For many, a sunny start
:44:06. > :44:14.and find no. Sprinkling of showers. -- fine day. Many will avoid the
:44:15. > :44:17.showers and stay dry. A mixture of sunny intervals and showers for
:44:18. > :44:23.Northern Ireland and Scotland. More persistent rain in the north-west
:44:24. > :44:28.later. Shelter through the central belt, most places dry and bright.
:44:29. > :44:33.Even with sunshine, temperatures only 16 degrees. The winds may be a
:44:34. > :44:38.touch lighter than today. A spring clean of showers over the Midlands,
:44:39. > :44:45.East Anglia and the south-east. They will be scattered. Many places
:44:46. > :44:49.avoiding them. Maybe 19, 20 in one or two places. Wales, a scattering
:44:50. > :44:57.of showers. A scattering of showers. They the winds they touch lighter
:44:58. > :45:00.than today. -- the winds. Showers more concentrated on Thursday on
:45:01. > :45:04.Northern Britain. Again it will feel cool. Further south, the showers
:45:05. > :45:11.will be well scattered. Decent chance of a dry day. Decent spells
:45:12. > :45:16.of sunshine early on across parts of the south and east. It will be a
:45:17. > :45:20.cold start to Thursday. Then the showers will develop more widely
:45:21. > :45:22.across northern areas. Temperatures only in the