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:00:00. > :00:07.No official confirmation on that Russian plane yet, but today

:00:08. > :00:11.the world went from asking "was it downed by a bomb" to answering "yes,

:00:12. > :00:20.A week after the crash of the Metrojet flight, senior

:00:21. > :00:22.French aviation officials close to the investigation are ruling out

:00:23. > :00:28.We are seeing more and more signs that

:00:29. > :00:35.the accident may have been caused by an explosion on board the aircraft.

:00:36. > :00:37.And Russia has done an about turn, now stopping all

:00:38. > :00:44.We'll get the latest from Russia and Egypt and ask

:00:45. > :00:49.whether aviation is now in for a new period of heightened alert.

:00:50. > :00:53.And on Artsnight, the artistic director of the Donmar Warehouse,

:00:54. > :00:56.Josie Rourke, looks at the role of the hero in drama and talks to

:00:57. > :01:02.Tom Hiddleston about his latest role as country singer Hank Williams.

:01:03. > :01:06.Hank has a rebelliousness that I don't have.

:01:07. > :01:09.I am too English and too well brought up, probably.

:01:10. > :01:11.Do you think you will acquire that with age?

:01:12. > :01:15.I don't know that I will ever walk out of an interview.

:01:16. > :01:34.It is now looking highly probable that the Metrojet Flight

:01:35. > :01:40.The voice recorders are said to point to that.

:01:41. > :01:43.Officials from France close to the investigation say it was not

:01:44. > :01:53.The Americans have come round to the British view of the intelligence

:01:54. > :01:57.And the first sign that the possibility of a bomb had been

:01:58. > :02:00.elevated to a probability was the news from Russia that the country

:02:01. > :02:07.Having criticised Britain for acting prematurely in stopping

:02:08. > :02:10.flights to Sharm el-Sheikh, Russia abruptly announced that it was

:02:11. > :02:13.Gabriel Gatehouse is in St Petersburg for us, where

:02:14. > :02:24.Gabriel, to what extent what the Russians interpreting this sudden

:02:25. > :02:28.move to stop all flights to Egypt, to what extent with the interpreting

:02:29. > :02:37.that is a sign that Russia believes this was a bomb? Well, it is quite

:02:38. > :02:42.an about turn. Yesterday, chastising the British for jumping the gun and

:02:43. > :02:47.now going much further than anyone in stopping all flights to Egypt.

:02:48. > :02:51.Officially, the Kremlin still says this does not mean it was either was

:02:52. > :02:56.not a bomb, they are going on a fact -based basis and following the

:02:57. > :03:01.investigation and the Russian press still not speculating about whether

:03:02. > :03:03.this means this was a bomb. They talk about how Russian tour

:03:04. > :03:08.operators will go bust but if you look at the sequence of events

:03:09. > :03:12.today, you see that, this morning, a bit of wreckage from the crash was

:03:13. > :03:16.flown into Moscow which was to be examined for traces of explosives

:03:17. > :03:22.and later this evening we see the head of the FSB suggesting to that

:03:23. > :03:27.Putin that he stops flights and he readily agrees to that and the whole

:03:28. > :03:31.thing moves on so when you look at how fast this has moved, it is

:03:32. > :03:36.difficult to come to any other conclusion. Reports tonight say that

:03:37. > :03:38.the British and Americans shared some intelligence with the Russians

:03:39. > :03:44.before this decision was made public, but either way it seems hard

:03:45. > :03:47.to come to any other conclusion and on the streets here in Russia when

:03:48. > :03:52.you speak to people, most people seem to come to that conclusion

:03:53. > :03:55.anyway. Thank you. We will hear more from Gabriel later on.

:03:56. > :03:58.Well, there is a news conference due at 3pm tomorrow afternoon in Cairo.

:03:59. > :04:01.The chairman of the Egyptian-led probe into the plane crash will be

:04:02. > :04:03.speaking along with the civil aviation minister.

:04:04. > :04:08.We'll see what comes out of that, but if a bomb has killed 224 people

:04:09. > :04:13.on a plane, it will undoubtedly lead to renewed anxieties about aviation

:04:14. > :04:16.security and the issue of smaller airports with less robust

:04:17. > :04:23.There have been many attempts to bring planes down in recent years.

:04:24. > :04:25.The shoe bomber, the liquid explosive bomb plot,

:04:26. > :04:33.But the last flights actually to be brought down in

:04:34. > :04:36.a comparable way were two domestic Russian flights back in 2004.

:04:37. > :04:38.David Grossman has been looking at the investigation into this

:04:39. > :04:46.flight and the implications that may be emerging from it.

:04:47. > :04:54.I ran the water, the theory of a bomb on the plane has gained ground.

:04:55. > :05:02.There is a possibility that there is a bomb. On board. From being

:05:03. > :05:05.critical of David Cameron's response, the Russian government

:05:06. > :05:09.joined the British in cancelling flights and preparing to bring its

:05:10. > :05:12.national song. Tonight, senior aviation officials close to the

:05:13. > :05:16.investigation have told the BBC that they have ruled out the possibility

:05:17. > :05:20.that there was any fault or technical issue with the plane that

:05:21. > :05:26.led to the crash. The full investigation will focus on every

:05:27. > :05:32.aspect of the accident and will also be looking for a possible structural

:05:33. > :05:39.failure not caused by a bomb but we are seeing more and more signs that

:05:40. > :05:43.the accident may have been caused by an explosion on board the aircraft.

:05:44. > :05:50.The investigation will focus on three main areas. Firstly, sifting

:05:51. > :05:53.through as far as possible and reconstructing the wreckage, looking

:05:54. > :05:57.at how the fabric of the plane has been burned and misshapen, finding

:05:58. > :06:01.the centre of an explosion. Secondly, adding that the flight

:06:02. > :06:07.data and recorders. According to the Russian news agency, the latter have

:06:08. > :06:10.been found with uncharacteristic signs that suggests an emergency

:06:11. > :06:14.situation occurred on board unexpectedly and it took the crew by

:06:15. > :06:20.surprise. The third source will be detailed examinations of the bodies

:06:21. > :06:25.of the 224 people who died. The condition and position of the

:06:26. > :06:32.victims can offer significant clues. And this process is not quick. This

:06:33. > :06:36.is the wreckage from MH17, destroyed over Ukraine in July 2014, being

:06:37. > :06:41.pieced back together. The initial assessment, determining the cause as

:06:42. > :06:45.an external exposure, to cover one month. The final report, blaming a

:06:46. > :06:52.rocket launcher fired by Russian backed rebels, is only published

:06:53. > :06:54.last month, 15 months afterwards. The Russian investigators will have

:06:55. > :07:05.some experience in this regard, the Russians lost two domestic passenger

:07:06. > :07:09.flights in 2004 from Moscow to Sochi and both of those were taken down by

:07:10. > :07:14.female suicide warmers and when they did analysis they discovered the

:07:15. > :07:21.classic signature evidence of an internal explosion and you had metal

:07:22. > :07:28.curling outwards, the blast effect, and the residue of high explosives.

:07:29. > :07:32.In this case, the Egyptians, Russians and the Irish air crash

:07:33. > :07:37.investigators on site will be looking for all of those tell-tale

:07:38. > :07:41.signs. If this is the first plane destroyed by a bomb for over one

:07:42. > :07:47.decade, it will most certainly lead to significant changes to the regime

:07:48. > :07:50.governing airport security. We have seen the rules change in the past.

:07:51. > :07:57.For example, on liquids, in response to known threats. It can cause an

:07:58. > :08:02.airline, for example, to be placed on the European no-fly list, on a

:08:03. > :08:10.list of airlines that are not allowed to operate into the EU. And,

:08:11. > :08:17.well, who knows what this change will bring? Perhaps it will change

:08:18. > :08:23.security as well and it will mean that countries have to explain and

:08:24. > :08:27.prove that they are capable of conducting proper security measures

:08:28. > :08:34.at all of their airports before any flights can be conducted from these

:08:35. > :08:36.countries into Europe. The Egyptian government is increasingly isolated

:08:37. > :08:42.tonight in its refusal to acknowledge that the likelihood is a

:08:43. > :08:46.bomb that caused this disaster. The invitations for the tourist industry

:08:47. > :08:52.and for global aviation security are set to be far-reaching. We can pick

:08:53. > :08:54.up on some of those issues. Here with me now are Andrew Brookes

:08:55. > :09:07.from RUSI, and from Cairo, Middle If I can start with you, the

:09:08. > :09:15.indications for Egypt, there are so many. I think that is a very bad

:09:16. > :09:19.place to begin for the Egyptians. The local population within the

:09:20. > :09:24.Sinai area lives from the tourism industry tremendously and across the

:09:25. > :09:29.country, the tourism industry will be hit very badly, simply by what

:09:30. > :09:33.has happened so far. Just the very suggestion that security is not what

:09:34. > :09:37.it should be banned that an attack would have taken place, just that

:09:38. > :09:43.suggestion being flooded before all of these close to confirmation

:09:44. > :09:46.suggestions has already hit the tourism industry and people who work

:09:47. > :09:52.in that industry are being hurt tremendously already. It has been

:09:53. > :09:55.very strange that this has occurred whilst President Sese has been here

:09:56. > :10:04.in London, just an awful week for him. And for diplomacy between Egypt

:10:05. > :10:10.and the UK and other countries? I think the curry was particularly

:10:11. > :10:16.annoyed that London declared that we think there was a high mobility or a

:10:17. > :10:21.more likely than not possibility that this was a bomb. -- Cairo.

:10:22. > :10:25.Having said that, I do not think that Cairo can stand by that any

:10:26. > :10:28.longer on every PC that so many other countries, including Russia,

:10:29. > :10:33.have also taken steps that are even stronger than the British response.

:10:34. > :10:40.Indeed, it is not a particularly good week for London - Cairo

:10:41. > :10:42.diplomacy or current's diplomacy with the international community

:10:43. > :10:46.when it comes to promoting Egypt as a safe place for tourism and one

:10:47. > :10:54.that the international committee should send tourists to. Andrew. How

:10:55. > :11:03.important is this for aviation and the industry? It is seminal, since

:11:04. > :11:07.September the 11th, we have focused on people getting on board and being

:11:08. > :11:13.suicide bombers and we have spent a lot of time, ground site, screening

:11:14. > :11:16.and checking, over checking, double-checking, to prevent that

:11:17. > :11:22.happening and we are also reverting to those pre-9/11 days and somebody

:11:23. > :11:31.put a bomb on board and walked away, like Lockerbie. You must protect the

:11:32. > :11:34.airfield, that is airside. That will impose a lot of extra cost and time

:11:35. > :11:39.delays around the world at every airport. One of the issues

:11:40. > :11:44.highlighted in this is however much security you put in an airport like

:11:45. > :11:47.Heathrow, that does get the planes flying out but there are also planes

:11:48. > :11:51.flying in from places that are considerably less robust? Has this

:11:52. > :11:56.been an issue that people have been worried about? We have been sending

:11:57. > :12:03.inspectors to Sharm el-Sheikh? To look at this? How much precaution

:12:04. > :12:08.has been taken? We have the airlines, 30 years ago, well-known

:12:09. > :12:12.airlines, they were called White knuckle, gripping in fear, but

:12:13. > :12:16.because the CAA checks everything that comes in, foreign airlines are

:12:17. > :12:20.looked at and they are grounded if they were no good so you can sort

:12:21. > :12:24.out those airlines but you cannot sort out those airfields and make

:12:25. > :12:27.sure that ground side as well as airside, everywhere, and this is no

:12:28. > :12:33.reflection on Egypt, there are lots of gaps at airports and does not

:12:34. > :12:38.take many people to be able to sneak through the system and put their at

:12:39. > :12:44.risk. Can you imagine a situation in which there are blacklisted airports

:12:45. > :12:48.around the place? I can see... It will be a diplomatic embarrassment,

:12:49. > :12:54.if the West goes in and says, but don't trust you. It'll be like trip

:12:55. > :12:58.advisor a different way, we will write these people up. People will

:12:59. > :13:02.want to know this. People will want to know that they get a 5-star

:13:03. > :13:06.rating, they will welcome this and take the advice, as long as it is

:13:07. > :13:15.discreet and diplomatically done. It should work. Do you think that,

:13:16. > :13:22.assuming this is a bomb of some kind, is this an Egypt issue? Sinai?

:13:23. > :13:25.Or is this bigger? Some sort of Islamist issue that could have

:13:26. > :13:31.occurred in a number of airports around the region? It is early to

:13:32. > :13:36.tell but what we could see earlier today is another video being

:13:37. > :13:43.released, apparently by an Isis affiliate from Aleppo in Syria,

:13:44. > :13:46.congratulating Sinai province. They did congratulate Butler was no

:13:47. > :13:52.evidence within that video that showed that they were actually

:13:53. > :13:56.responsible. Now, we do not know who actually carried the site, if there

:13:57. > :14:00.was a bomb. We do not know who would have been responsible for this so it

:14:01. > :14:06.is too early to tell. Is this about Sinai? There is an insurgency in

:14:07. > :14:11.Sinai. It is not around Sharm el-Sheikh, it is further north and

:14:12. > :14:16.Sinai is a huge piece of territory but Isis is active in Sinai. Is it

:14:17. > :14:21.in Egypt? There are other parts of Egypt where Isis is trying to target

:14:22. > :14:24.and we could see the attack on Italian Consulate earlier in the

:14:25. > :14:28.year and in the western desert. But Isis is active across the region,

:14:29. > :14:32.you can see this in Tunisia and Libya, especially in the north of

:14:33. > :14:37.Libya, you can see this in Syria and Iraq and you can see different cells

:14:38. > :14:41.trying to claim precedence in different areas and I think the

:14:42. > :14:46.issue of religion Islamist extremism will be a problem that the region

:14:47. > :14:50.and the world will have to deal with.

:14:51. > :14:58.in three words, would you might -- would you put much credence in ices

:14:59. > :15:03.saying they did it or should that be ignored? i would not ignore it but

:15:04. > :15:07.we do not have confirmation it was isis who did it, it could have been

:15:08. > :15:13.somebody else, another group. it is too early to tell. even if it was

:15:14. > :15:17.not, they have succeeded in a pr coup by causing us to discuss them

:15:18. > :15:19.in that fashion anyway. thank you both very much.

:15:20. > :15:22.It is Russia that suffered the casualties a week ago

:15:23. > :15:24.and Russia that has been sensitive to the speculation over causes

:15:25. > :15:27.That partly stems from its intervention in Syria, prompting

:15:28. > :15:34.questions over whether that could have provoked a response from IS.

:15:35. > :15:36.So the action Russia took today stopping flights to Egypt

:15:37. > :15:42.Gabriel Gatehouse sent us this report from St Petersburg.

:15:43. > :15:45.Another aeroplane landed today, bringing back to Russia yet more

:15:46. > :15:53.It also brought with it part of the wreckage from Sinai to test

:15:54. > :15:59.Could this test have prompted this evening's decision by the Kremlin

:16:00. > :16:05.At an impromptu shrine outside the airport in St Petersburg, they

:16:06. > :16:11.People who, in most cases, were strangers until last week

:16:12. > :16:14.but whose faces are now becoming part of the national consciousness.

:16:15. > :16:19.The government had, until today, played down suggestions

:16:20. > :16:22.of a bomb on board but most people here seem instinctively to believe

:16:23. > :16:32.I think it must have been terrorism, this woman says.

:16:33. > :16:42.Both told me they think it was linked to the war in Syria.

:16:43. > :16:45.In Saint Petersburg and other nearby towns, they are only just

:16:46. > :16:48.Only a small number of bodies have been properly

:16:49. > :16:55.Many of the victims' relatives have been coming here to this hotel next

:16:56. > :17:01.to the airport, looking for answers from the authorities.

:17:02. > :17:07.They will have to wait for DNA analysis before they can properly

:17:08. > :17:11.Some of the relatives are still in there.

:17:12. > :17:15.They do not want to appear on camera but there is a lot of anger,

:17:16. > :17:20.I have just spoken to one woman who lost her daughter and she said to

:17:21. > :17:26.They poke their nose into everything, into Syria, into

:17:27. > :17:33.Saint Petersburg, Russia's old imperial capital,

:17:34. > :17:40.Whatever the cause of the crash, this was his country's worst ever

:17:41. > :17:53.We must all stick together now and support each other.

:17:54. > :17:57.And amid this feeling of solidarity, there is also anger at the West,

:17:58. > :18:00.at what some see as a less than sympathetic response.

:18:01. > :18:09.The Americans have imposed sanctions on us but Obama should have had

:18:10. > :18:11.the guts to offer his condolences to the Russian people.

:18:12. > :18:18.Since the start of Moscow's military campaign

:18:19. > :18:25.in Syria, the Russian public has been fed a daily diet of patriotic

:18:26. > :18:27.newsreels with Putin portrayed as a man of decisive action, saving

:18:28. > :18:37.To tell you the truth, we don't have a lot of things to be

:18:38. > :18:42.Our economy is in crisis and now our government tries to draw

:18:43. > :18:44.the attention of the population to the conflict

:18:45. > :18:55.And the main idea is that Russia is becoming a superpower.

:18:56. > :18:57.Opinion polls suggest that Mr Putin's decision to go to war

:18:58. > :19:05.But if the plane crash over Sinai does turn out to be some sort

:19:06. > :19:07.of payback for the Russian campaign in Syria,

:19:08. > :19:10.then Putin's aura of invincibility begins to slip and Russians will

:19:11. > :19:21.Joining me now is Dr Domitilla Sagramoso, a lecturer

:19:22. > :19:32.in Russian security and development at King's College London.

:19:33. > :19:41.if it turns out that this action is caused or prompted by russian

:19:42. > :19:48.intervention in syria, what would be the consequences of that? i think it

:19:49. > :19:52.will be very serious because people in russian will question the

:19:53. > :19:54.intervention of putin in syria although it might not come in the

:19:55. > :20:15.media. It was all very sanitised on

:20:16. > :20:18.television with Russian casualties. It was popular to a certain extent

:20:19. > :20:26.because Russia was trying to resolve the problem. And the police were

:20:27. > :20:29.standing up... If it was related to Syria, what behavioural response

:20:30. > :20:37.with their beef from Vladimir Putin? More action in Syria? He will not

:20:38. > :20:42.say OK? . Those interventions? Yes, on the one hand, I think we bring

:20:43. > :20:49.the Syrian walk back onto Russia so he will have a very difficult line

:20:50. > :20:55.to move through because on the one hand, he will not want to have more

:20:56. > :20:59.casualties but at the same time, his track record shows that he tends to

:21:00. > :21:04.react quite strongly whenever there have been terrorist attacks against

:21:05. > :21:08.Russians. I would expect probably that he will continue to increase

:21:09. > :21:13.the bombings, he might focus much more on the Isis area where so far

:21:14. > :21:19.he has not really been focusing very much and there is this paradox that

:21:20. > :21:22.to a certain extent, Russia has avoided bombing Isis and if it is

:21:23. > :21:27.proven that an Isis affiliated group is behind it, it is unclear to

:21:28. > :21:39.understand. This has caused tension. Could it

:21:40. > :21:45.bring Russia and the West together? Everybody is worried about ones on

:21:46. > :21:48.planes and that would be a shared interest or Syria becomes even more

:21:49. > :21:53.divisive. There is a very high chance there is a stronger effort to

:21:54. > :21:56.work together because of the awareness of this kind of threat

:21:57. > :22:02.which is common to Russia and the West. Also because Putin will think

:22:03. > :22:05.that besides increasing or continuing with a bombing campaign,

:22:06. > :22:11.he will need to put pressure on President Assad to reap at a

:22:12. > :22:16.political settlement. And last week, we saw Russia working more actively

:22:17. > :22:25.with the West in the field of the gauche Asians so I think that part

:22:26. > :22:29.might be strengthened. -- field of negotiations. I feel a greater

:22:30. > :22:35.readiness of both sides to work and we have seen changes in Russia, in

:22:36. > :22:38.readiness to support, to provide air support to the so-called Free Syrian

:22:39. > :22:43.Army so we have seen changes on the Russian behaviour in Syria. Russia

:22:44. > :22:50.has had a lot of hideous terrorist atrocities and tragedies. How big a

:22:51. > :22:56.psychological scar? 224 people is big. I think this is going to leave

:22:57. > :23:00.a very strong psychological scar because it was quite a while these

:23:01. > :23:07.kind of attacks were occurring in Russia. We had bombings in the metro

:23:08. > :23:13.in 2010, 2013. But it seemed to calm down. In such it, there was talk

:23:14. > :23:19.about the Olympics and we had an attack -- in Saatchi. Not as attack

:23:20. > :23:22.as people expected. And in the North Caucasus, the situation has come

:23:23. > :23:27.down so people were starting to get used to a more secure and safe

:23:28. > :23:30.environment, and we used to travelling abroad, now they will

:23:31. > :23:35.worry about travelling abroad and security generally. It is going to

:23:36. > :23:37.affect them very much and people are going to be quite very worried about

:23:38. > :23:39.this event. Thank you very much. That's all we'll have

:23:40. > :23:41.on the plane story tonight, but of course it is one that

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:26:16. > :26:17.experience some things that weren't We wanted to make our way out

:26:18. > :26:22.and wanted to get out to free the frustration,

:26:23. > :26:24.rather than going out there and damaging things and robbing

:26:25. > :26:27.people and doing all these things, we'd go and release it on record

:26:28. > :26:32.and let that anger go in the music. # Break everybody down, take

:26:33. > :26:34.everybody down # Any crew, any MC

:26:35. > :26:36.crew, I break down However, this raw, energetic sound

:26:37. > :26:40.increasingly led to fears from venues and licensing police that

:26:41. > :26:42.the music was inciting violence Coupled with the lack

:26:43. > :26:47.of infrastructure and wider music industry support,

:26:48. > :26:50.the original Grime sound was locked # If you work hard, then you can be

:26:51. > :26:57.like me... # When you look at it superficially,

:26:58. > :27:00.you're seeing working class kids It's 140 bpm, so it's going to

:27:01. > :27:05.come across more aggressively It's the same with music back then,

:27:06. > :27:11.you know. A lot of that message was

:27:12. > :27:15.about frustration. It just felt like everyone was

:27:16. > :27:22.against us, all the clubs and the police were shutting us

:27:23. > :27:26.down for whatever reason. We're just guys

:27:27. > :27:28.from the street trying to get out Released at the turn of the decade,

:27:29. > :27:35.Dizzee Rascal tracks like Bonkers reflected many Grime

:27:36. > :27:37.artists' shift to a more commercially

:27:38. > :27:38.acceptable sound after being shut Not inspired by the commercial pop

:27:39. > :27:47.sound adopted by some of the early Grime artists, a new generation have

:27:48. > :27:54.truly taken the bull by the horns and created the sound right back to

:27:55. > :27:57.where it started - the streets, leading to the titans

:27:58. > :28:01.of hip-hop truly paying attention. And perhaps most importantly,

:28:02. > :28:06.success, but without conflicts. In 2015, Grime reached millions

:28:07. > :28:09.of new ears when Kanye West invited artists such as Stormzy,

:28:10. > :28:12.Jammer and Skepta onto the stage Whilst before, it was played in

:28:13. > :28:24.basement sessions to a dozen people in Bow, Grime is now headlining huge

:28:25. > :28:28.venues across the country. Like in Leeds, for 1Xtra Live,

:28:29. > :28:31.where over 10,000 people came to see Back then, I could never have

:28:32. > :28:39.imagined where we are now. It was more just like a hobby,

:28:40. > :28:44.something to do. Like, I was a kid in college,

:28:45. > :28:47.going to Top of the Pops, Little did I know 11 years on,

:28:48. > :28:52.I'm at Leeds Arena, about to perform in front

:28:53. > :28:56.of 12,000 people, untold shows. My gigs are now music lovers,

:28:57. > :28:58.Grime fans. But they might like a bit of punk,

:28:59. > :29:02.they might like a bit of Oasis. # People might call me

:29:03. > :29:04.a back-up dancer... # We're definitely in

:29:05. > :29:06.a much better place commercially. What Stormzy has achieved is

:29:07. > :29:07.incredible, the weekend it came out,

:29:08. > :29:15.it sat above One Direction I think it's reflective of the

:29:16. > :29:30.audience and the power of social Groups like The Square

:29:31. > :29:32.are bringing the notion You Tube, WhatsApp

:29:33. > :29:35.and Snapchat have replaced pirate We were on the road and going

:29:36. > :29:40.into the studio. And outside McDonald's,

:29:41. > :29:42.like, spitting outside there. To an audience whose parents have

:29:43. > :29:47.Rebel Sounds - including rock, punk, indie,

:29:48. > :29:50.reggae, new wave and acid house - UK Grime is on the cusp of being

:29:51. > :29:53.as internationally influential as Mistajam the DJ there,

:29:54. > :30:13.on the resurgance of Grime music. The Daily male is leading on an

:30:14. > :30:20.apparent rocket attack on a British plane flying into Sharm el-Sheikh

:30:21. > :30:22.which came within 1,000 feet of a rocket, how come we did not hear

:30:23. > :30:26.about that at the time? Artistic Director of the

:30:27. > :30:28.Donmar Warehouse, Josie Rourke, explores how the role of the 'hero'

:30:29. > :30:32.is evolving on stage and screen. It's a star-packed episode with

:30:33. > :30:34.contributions from Aaron Sorkin, Tom Hiddleston,

:30:35. > :30:36.Phyllida Lloyd and Harriet Walter.