:00:00. > :00:13.as Calais brings its bulldozers to the camp.
:00:14. > :00:17.but there's a lot of resistance to leaving.
:00:18. > :00:20.Not only because of the sense of community that has built up here
:00:21. > :00:29.would take them one step further away from their goal.
:00:30. > :00:35.The French Ambassador is with us to explain what it is.
:00:36. > :00:44.have we found the most enthusiastic lobby for the remaining in the EU?
:00:45. > :00:53.When I said I was an out, I was virtually lynched in the hotel! I
:00:54. > :00:55.ran out into the streets, it was safer than inside that hotel last
:00:56. > :00:56.night. Farming policy is one area
:00:57. > :00:59.in which the EU has the most power. at the annual conference
:01:00. > :01:02.of National Farmers' Union. Sadiq Khan, Labour's candidate
:01:03. > :01:04.for Mayor of London, joins us live. Is he intensely relaxed
:01:05. > :01:07.about London's filthy rich? transform the mood
:01:08. > :01:13.of an entire city? Newsnight is on the trail
:01:14. > :01:18.of the Foxes in Leicester. In Leicester, the people
:01:19. > :01:21.of Leicester, they don't speak about the weather anymore -
:01:22. > :01:30.they speak about Leicester City. Calais has always been a gateway
:01:31. > :01:35.between France and England. In the 16th century,
:01:36. > :01:38.it was actually English, But today, for migrants,
:01:39. > :01:43.it's not a place for passage any more - it's a purgatory
:01:44. > :01:46.for thousands of people No desire to go home,
:01:47. > :01:51.no right to move here, and no ladders to help them scale
:01:52. > :01:54.the newly erected fences The French authorities
:01:55. > :02:00.now want the squalor We appear to be on the edge of a new
:02:01. > :02:11.phase in the life of migrants there. They had given residents
:02:12. > :02:13.until 8:00pm this evening to clear the southern part
:02:14. > :02:23.of the camp. What can you tell us is happening,
:02:24. > :02:27.what happened this evening? Well, there is a fairly significant police
:02:28. > :02:31.presence here, this is the camp behind me, I have seen numerous
:02:32. > :02:36.police cars advance driving past this road here, and in fact a few
:02:37. > :02:40.with flashing blue light stage and here, but the eight o'clock deadline
:02:41. > :02:45.has come and gone, and the bulldozers have not gone in because
:02:46. > :02:47.there is a legal challenge. A couple of charities that work in the camp
:02:48. > :02:52.saying that the local authorities have their sums wrong and they do
:02:53. > :02:55.not have enough capacity to rehouse all the residents of the camp. Now,
:02:56. > :03:01.the Jungle has always been a rather strange
:03:02. > :03:05.sanctioned impromptu settlement, and the
:03:06. > :03:09.cannot go on now, the residents have to be rehoused either in a state
:03:10. > :03:09.cannot go on now, the residents have facility just next door, or they are
:03:10. > :03:13.welcome to go to any of facility just next door, or they are
:03:14. > :03:17.the country. The people here facility just next door, or they are
:03:18. > :03:21.they don't want to do that, not least because they don't want to
:03:22. > :03:27.stay in France - they want to go to Britain. My feeling is that the days
:03:28. > :03:32.of the Jungle are numbered, but it is 24 or 48 hours before we learn
:03:33. > :03:33.the Rosol of this legal challenge, and that means more uncertainty for
:03:34. > :03:36.the people of the camp. -- result. They're cold, the mornings
:03:37. > :03:38.in the Jungle - the wind whips in,
:03:39. > :03:41.blowing with it the elusive promise of a new life on the other
:03:42. > :03:44.side of the Channel. and there's the threat of change
:03:45. > :03:49.in the air. Many people spend the nights
:03:50. > :03:51.trying to cross, Volunteers are trying to make
:03:52. > :04:01.as much noise as possible. We are here this morning
:04:02. > :04:04.trying to make sure that the maximum number
:04:05. > :04:07.of people possible and to give a real idea
:04:08. > :04:11.of the number of people who are actually in
:04:12. > :04:16.the southern part of the camp. to decide whether
:04:17. > :04:16.to give the go-ahead to the authorities
:04:17. > :04:20.who want to dismantle it. they've drastically
:04:21. > :04:24.underestimated the numbers. We know that there are over 300
:04:25. > :04:31.unaccompanied children in this to go ahead and the bulldozers
:04:32. > :04:34.arrive and our volunteers who work with the children
:04:35. > :04:37.here every day, if they lose track of them, then they are effectively
:04:38. > :04:41.lost in the system, we don't know
:04:42. > :04:45.what will happen to them. The magistrate arrives
:04:46. > :04:47.and is treated to a chaotic guided tour of the Jungle's
:04:48. > :04:53.mud-sodden lanes. There's a lot of commotion
:04:54. > :05:00.here as the judge has come to visit the camp - her purpose, really,
:05:01. > :05:04.is to check the numbers. The authorities want to move
:05:05. > :05:13.the inhabitants of the Jungle a census in the camp,
:05:14. > :05:16.and they say that the population is three times
:05:17. > :05:19.the official estimate. Plus, most people don't
:05:20. > :05:22.seem to like the look What will you do
:05:23. > :05:26.if they bulldoze this camp? I don't know where I have to go,
:05:27. > :05:31.what I'm going to do. But they say you could live in these
:05:32. > :05:34.containers over here, you don't want to do that?
:05:35. > :05:37.If I live in containers, that means I'm going to make asylum
:05:38. > :05:41.in France. And you don't want to do that?
:05:42. > :05:44.For sure, yeah. Why not? Cos, as I told you, France does not
:05:45. > :05:48.believe that we are in danger, they don't believe our case,
:05:49. > :05:51.they don't believe our problems. And you think that
:05:52. > :05:54.Britain will be more sympathetic? Rightly or wrongly,
:05:55. > :06:02.almost everyone here thinks life would be better
:06:03. > :06:05.in Britain than in France. Most have little or no
:06:06. > :06:10.connection to the UK, but some do, and they are not encouraged
:06:11. > :06:13.by the magistrate's visit. I think the Jungle will finish.
:06:14. > :06:17.You think the Jungle will finish? Her body language,
:06:18. > :06:19.there was no reaction, From her body language,
:06:20. > :06:24.you could tell? I don't know, probably
:06:25. > :06:30.on the street or something. Go on the street?
:06:31. > :06:33.Yeah, but there's no other choices. You speak very good English.
:06:34. > :06:38.I was a translator in Afghanistan. Really?
:06:39. > :06:43.Who were you translating for? The British Army?
:06:44. > :06:46.Yeah. It might seem perverse
:06:47. > :06:50.for people to be so attached to this mud and tarpaulin settlement
:06:51. > :06:54.on Europe's northern edge, but there is a real sense
:06:55. > :06:57.of community in the Jungle. There are English lessons
:06:58. > :07:04.in the warmth of a heated classroom. There's a library called,
:07:05. > :07:07.perhaps inevitably, Jungle Books, in between attempts
:07:08. > :07:13.to cross the Channel. There are restaurants
:07:14. > :07:15.and barber's shops, even a theatre housed
:07:16. > :07:18.in a dome-shaped tent which has become
:07:19. > :07:21.the Jungle's unofficial town hall. It's never been our argument
:07:22. > :07:25.that this Jungle should remain. We've been here for five months
:07:26. > :07:28.and have always said that the conditions are not
:07:29. > :07:30.worthy of any human being. The disease here, the mental
:07:31. > :07:33.illness we are seeing, it's a treacherous place,
:07:34. > :07:35.but at the same time the decision to try to evict
:07:36. > :07:39.so many people in such a short amount of time for them
:07:40. > :07:43.to find somewhere else to go, Midway through the afternoon,
:07:44. > :07:49.news comes from the courthouse - the magistrate has
:07:50. > :07:52.postponed her decision. The inhabitants of the camp
:07:53. > :07:55.are in limbo. is just about filtering
:07:56. > :08:05.through here now. It's a reprieve, but probably
:08:06. > :08:07.only a temporary one. Most of the people who live
:08:08. > :08:10.here agree that conditions are far from ideal, but there's
:08:11. > :08:13.a lot of resistance to leaving. Not only because of the sense
:08:14. > :08:16.of community that has built up here, would take them one step further
:08:17. > :08:20.away from their goal. They've travelled thousands
:08:21. > :08:23.of miles to get this far, often at great danger and expense -
:08:24. > :08:27.they are not about to give up now. Where are you going?
:08:28. > :08:30.What were you trying to do? Train.
:08:31. > :08:33.Train to London? Train to London. Day in, day out,
:08:34. > :08:36.they hide themselves in the backs of lorries
:08:37. > :08:38.trying to get across. It's a little over an hour's journey
:08:39. > :08:50.from here to Lord's Cricket Ground. These people are so close,
:08:51. > :08:53.and yet the prospect of attaining their goal
:08:54. > :08:56.seems to slip further and further into the distance
:08:57. > :09:05.where the bulldozers are waiting. Joining me now is the French
:09:06. > :09:16.Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Thanks for coming in, do you agree
:09:17. > :09:22.that the Jungle's days are now numbered? It is on its way out? Yes,
:09:23. > :09:28.absolutely, we decided to relocate people, but nobody could complain
:09:29. > :09:33.about that, because the conditions were absolutely terrible, and some
:09:34. > :09:37.say not even very humanitarian. So we decided to provide them a home
:09:38. > :09:42.with security, with water, with heating. So it will be better. And
:09:43. > :09:46.of course sometimes those zones are not going to be as near to the
:09:47. > :09:50.coast, the Channel as they want, and they would rather have the lottery
:09:51. > :09:55.ticket to see if they can get to England, wouldn't they? What is your
:09:56. > :10:02.answer to that? Are they going to make it to England? It is much
:10:03. > :10:09.harder, because we have spent some money also to put the fences and
:10:10. > :10:17.also extra police, and we worked closely with the British on that.
:10:18. > :10:25.So, as it is good, they start to go elsewhere. But those relocations are
:10:26. > :10:29.not very far from the southern part of the camp, and others, I would
:10:30. > :10:34.like to say, have been relocated somewhere else in France, and we
:10:35. > :10:40.have convinced some of them also to accept asylum, because most of them
:10:41. > :10:46.want to come to the UK. Right. What is the medium term plan? I mean, you
:10:47. > :10:50.cannot just have people living in squalor in France, a developed
:10:51. > :10:54.country like this, that is not the long-term solution, what is the
:10:55. > :11:01.idea? Are we going to give asylum to those people, send them home? Well,
:11:02. > :11:05.it depends. For those who are not refugees, we will send them home. I
:11:06. > :11:11.mean, those who are economic migrants, they cannot stay there.
:11:12. > :11:13.Those who are real refugees, yes, they are granted asylum, but
:11:14. > :11:19.providing they accepted. Because some of them do not want to stay in
:11:20. > :11:22.France. But your plan is that, ultimately, France will process
:11:23. > :11:28.those people, some will stay if they are allowed, some will go home.
:11:29. > :11:32.Absolutely. Is there anything the British could be doing to expedite
:11:33. > :11:38.that long-term plan and make it happen more quickly? I am thinking
:11:39. > :11:42.particularly around the unaccompanied children. Yeah, I
:11:43. > :11:47.think there have been some decisions by English courts, and so we hope it
:11:48. > :11:52.will be implemented for those children. What, that children who
:11:53. > :11:57.have some case to come to the UK will be brought to the UK? You would
:11:58. > :12:01.like that to happen? Yes. OK, and this is an important time for
:12:02. > :12:04.British relations with France and Europe for reasons beyond the
:12:05. > :12:09.situation in Calais. Sticking with Calais for the moment, one of the
:12:10. > :12:13.issues you may be able to help us with is what happens to the British
:12:14. > :12:17.border if we choose to leave in the referendum, because some say the
:12:18. > :12:21.French may bring the border back to Dover, some say the French would
:12:22. > :12:26.keep it in Calais. What is the truth? Well, I don't know, because
:12:27. > :12:34.in fact some authorities have said that the border should be in Calais,
:12:35. > :12:41.members of the opposition say that they are implementing the
:12:42. > :12:45.agreements, so we don't want to speculate. What you get out of the
:12:46. > :12:50.agreement? Is it just to be nice to ask that you let us put your border
:12:51. > :12:56.there, or does it help you in some way? I think at that time we had
:12:57. > :13:00.Sangatte, and we wanted to close it, so there was an agreement, and we
:13:01. > :13:06.thought that we had, I don't member how many at that time, but they kept
:13:07. > :13:11.coming during all those years, and we did not anticipate that. We are
:13:12. > :13:16.in the early days of our European debate, I just wonder what you make
:13:17. > :13:22.of it so far, whether you are happy with it? Well, I cannot say I am
:13:23. > :13:27.happy or not happy, it is fought the British to say. The only thing I can
:13:28. > :13:32.say is that France would like the UK to stay within the EU, and that is
:13:33. > :13:37.the reason why we made some efforts in Brussels to get an agreement.
:13:38. > :13:40.President Hollande, everybody speaks to their own audience in these
:13:41. > :13:45.things, don't they? President Hollande said there were no special
:13:46. > :13:49.dispensation is from the rules, no veto over the eurozone, Britain has
:13:50. > :13:53.a special place that it has always had, he was trying to play down the
:13:54. > :13:59.concessions made. You think the concessions David Cameron God were
:14:00. > :14:05.not think? I think he got a good agreement, in fact, because he got
:14:06. > :14:10.almost everything he wanted. But we had some red lines, and we didn't
:14:11. > :14:13.want those red lines to be crossed, and that is the case. We have worked
:14:14. > :14:17.a lot on the economic government, and I think that is satisfying for
:14:18. > :14:29.all of us. Is Boris Johnson well known in
:14:30. > :14:37.France? He is well-known, he speaks French! Is the popular, well liked?
:14:38. > :14:43.I do not know, everyone knows him. And they like to listen to him. You
:14:44. > :14:45.are very diplomatic! Thank you very much.
:14:46. > :14:48.It didn't take long in this EU campaign for the art of letter
:14:49. > :14:50.writing to be deployed as a marketing tool.
:14:51. > :14:53.Leaders of some big FTSE 100 companies today put their name
:14:54. > :14:56.to a letter in The Times, arguing that we should stay in.
:14:57. > :14:58.A valuable contribution to the debate,
:14:59. > :15:02.But forget big business for a moment,
:15:03. > :15:05.and think about a different group which stands to be directly affected
:15:06. > :15:10.They haven't written any letters yet, but it does so happen
:15:11. > :15:12.that the NFU conference started today in Birmingham.
:15:13. > :15:24.Our policy editor Chris Cook went along.
:15:25. > :15:32.Where better for Newsnight to come when considering how farmers think
:15:33. > :15:37.then beautiful, rustic Birmingham? The National Farmers' Union which
:15:38. > :15:41.skews to represent slightly better off farmers, is here for its
:15:42. > :15:44.conference. Once critical questions for the meeting this week in
:15:45. > :15:48.Birmingham is Europe. They have a session on Brexit tomorrow. For
:15:49. > :15:54.farmers as for other businesses, one of the critical issues is if we were
:15:55. > :15:58.to leave the EU, on what terms would we have access to the single market.
:15:59. > :16:03.For example might we cut a deal where we could sell goods to the EU
:16:04. > :16:08.as we do today or maybe have Depay terror. At the moment countries
:16:09. > :16:15.without a trade deal have got to pay a tariff of 8% of the value of
:16:16. > :16:18.anything they sell to the EU. The agriculture secretary made a point
:16:19. > :16:21.we heard from many delegates. Even Eurosceptics. What we're going to
:16:22. > :16:27.publish a government, Eurosceptics. What we're going to
:16:28. > :16:30.a document about alternative models which is
:16:31. > :16:35.a document about alternative models in his statement yesterday. I think
:16:36. > :16:39.the real answer is, we do not know. Exactly what it will look like. The
:16:40. > :16:44.debate about Europe is for farmers is unique, they have the common
:16:45. > :16:51.agricultural policy to worry about, a Europe-wide system of subsidies.
:16:52. > :16:54.Farmers in the UK in 2014 got around ?2 billion of cash which made up a
:16:55. > :16:59.large part of their ?5 billion a year or so of actual income. The
:17:00. > :17:02.question for them is, if the UK were to leave the EU, with the British
:17:03. > :17:08.Government chose to give them as much money as Europe does and there
:17:09. > :17:14.is scepticism in this hall about whether they would. The NFU has not
:17:15. > :17:15.is scepticism in this hall about got a formal position yet in Europe
:17:16. > :17:20.but the president is pretty clear about his views. If we were to leave
:17:21. > :17:24.the European Union then there would be some further difficult
:17:25. > :17:29.negotiations and that would be a difficult battle I guess to convince
:17:30. > :17:36.the Treasury to allow the same level of support to British farmers as to
:17:37. > :17:44.European competitors. During the negotiations on the current CAD
:17:45. > :17:48.system, Britain was an advocate for a leaner and less generous CHP. That
:17:49. > :17:53.is why I am nervous, you just have to look back to the last couple of
:17:54. > :17:57.reforms, the Treasury were adamant that the beginning of those
:17:58. > :18:00.negotiations about the level of support for the CHP, that it had to
:18:01. > :18:05.be reduced. We also had nervous about what Westminster would do
:18:06. > :18:08.without Brussels oversight from delegates. I do not believe they
:18:09. > :18:14.would respect British farming and indeed help promote it as much as
:18:15. > :18:18.the European colleagues do. You think Irish farming methods from the
:18:19. > :18:24.higher prestige of farming say in France? Very much so. Our French
:18:25. > :18:28.colleagues are highly supportive of European agriculture. Perhaps
:18:29. > :18:31.contrary to their stereotypes we struggled to find delegates who
:18:32. > :18:35.would make a case that farmers would do better than Brexit. I was quite
:18:36. > :18:42.shocked, I came last night and I'm staying in a hotel and discussion
:18:43. > :18:47.about Europe came up and when I said I was in favour of out, I was almost
:18:48. > :18:50.lynched! What is the balance of opinion like here. For those
:18:51. > :18:55.prepared to go public, they're worried about leaving the EU and
:18:56. > :19:00.especially worried because they are on the ropes at the moment, they had
:19:01. > :19:03.a couple of terrible years, a third coming up and the prospect of
:19:04. > :19:07.another change when they're not been told by the government what the plan
:19:08. > :19:12.be years, they're worried. A number of them in private deal we ought to
:19:13. > :19:15.be leaving the European Union because they're concerned about
:19:16. > :19:20.other things and not about farming. Campaigners for leave said they know
:19:21. > :19:25.they must reassure farmers would be farm subsidies after Brexit. Because
:19:26. > :19:26.the slogan of the day at the farmers attending the NFU conference right
:19:27. > :19:30.now is, better the devil you know. Last week, we had the Conservative
:19:31. > :19:33.candidate for London mayor on this I asked if he would publish his tax
:19:34. > :19:37.return, as the leading candidates He said he would, and yesterday
:19:38. > :19:42.he delivered a letter from his accountant
:19:43. > :19:46.with the important figures in it. Headline - he had an average income
:19:47. > :19:50.of ?1.2 million a year over the last five years,
:19:51. > :19:54.most of it itemised as trust income. That background highlights a
:19:55. > :19:56.very big contrast Mr Khan likes to remind us
:19:57. > :20:02.that he was brought up on a council estate,
:20:03. > :20:04.one of eight children of parents It's not the only contrast
:20:05. > :20:22.with Zac Goldsmith. Zac Goldsmith wants to leave. Sadiq
:20:23. > :20:27.Khan joins us now. On your tax return, you said you would publish
:20:28. > :20:34.it, are you going to do that? We will do it tomorrow. We'll be found
:20:35. > :20:38.at anything interesting M I will publish and you can judge for
:20:39. > :20:42.yourself. The background has been an issue in the London mayoral
:20:43. > :20:47.elections. Did you feel that, it is stuck about Zac Goldsmith, you said
:20:48. > :20:53.he is someone who never had a proper job, I just wonder whether
:20:54. > :20:57.background is important? I talk about my background because it
:20:58. > :21:03.defines who I am. I'm proud that I am one of eight children, the son of
:21:04. > :21:07.immigrants, brought up in a council estate to becoming a lawyer and
:21:08. > :21:17.having a successful business then to Cabinet. We fulfilled our potential
:21:18. > :21:21.because of the joys of London and I feel many Londoners now are not
:21:22. > :21:25.getting the same chances. The Evening Standard, the main London
:21:26. > :21:31.newspaper, has focused or drawn attention to your former
:21:32. > :21:35.brother-in-law who was quite radicalised in the 1990s. He has
:21:36. > :21:39.renounced all of that and is no longer with your sister and you do
:21:40. > :21:43.not see him much. You're not in contact with them now. No one could
:21:44. > :21:47.point that at you but that experience must have been a very
:21:48. > :21:55.difficult one for your family. It was. I'm pleased you ask me,
:21:56. > :21:57.throughout my critical career I have never run away from the fact that I
:21:58. > :22:03.think tackling extremism is important. I was the guy who had a
:22:04. > :22:14.fatwa against him because I voted for same-sex marriage. There was an
:22:15. > :22:20.extremist campaign and people who voted for me were told they were
:22:21. > :22:25.going to hell. But I also speak about my experience as a British
:22:26. > :22:30.Muslim coming across opinions that I find odious and many British Muslims
:22:31. > :22:36.will have come across these views and it is difficult. I have a
:22:37. > :22:40.position of responsibility, and I need to talk about these things but
:22:41. > :22:44.there is no other city in the world where I would like to raise my
:22:45. > :22:49.daughters. London is fantastic and my story is that of many immigrants
:22:50. > :22:54.over 1000 years. I do not want to pry, in your family, you have got
:22:55. > :22:59.the father of your nephews and nieces onstage in Trafalgar Square
:23:00. > :23:05.same things most people would regard as fairly ridiculous. Did you
:23:06. > :23:11.intervene, was a crisis for the family, or was it just something
:23:12. > :23:21.people did, being before September the 11th. I have not seen my sister
:23:22. > :23:24.ex-husband for more than 12 years. He has explained himself, it is for
:23:25. > :23:30.him to explain himself. What is important is this, we live in a
:23:31. > :23:36.fantastic city, a city were Muslims, Christians, but this, not simply
:23:37. > :23:41.tolerate one another but respect and celebrate the difference. I think
:23:42. > :23:46.one of the important things is to recognise that in London there are
:23:47. > :23:51.more than 1 million Londoners of Islamic faith, the vast majority
:23:52. > :23:54.will find those kind of views offensive and want nothing to do
:23:55. > :24:00.with them. Housing and migration are issues in the London election and
:24:01. > :24:04.nationally as well, is there a link between them, perhaps one not often
:24:05. > :24:08.talked about that in London the population has grown by 1 million in
:24:09. > :24:12.the past ten years, we have not built houses for that many people
:24:13. > :24:18.and maybe that is why it is so difficult to get a house. Successive
:24:19. > :24:25.governments have failed London. By 2020 the population will be 9
:24:26. > :24:30.million. Both is not bad, it is lack of planning. We have to build homes
:24:31. > :24:34.for Londoners. No point building homes if they are sold to investors
:24:35. > :24:39.in the Middle East and Asia before they have been completed. You could
:24:40. > :24:43.say and people to say if you're not going to build homes you had better
:24:44. > :24:47.not let the population grow like that, that is the argument. I spoke
:24:48. > :24:51.about the history of London over 1000 years, we have been open to
:24:52. > :24:56.trade, ideas and people. We are so successful because success of
:24:57. > :25:03.generations, politicians have taken tough decisions to plan Crossrail,
:25:04. > :25:09.to build homes for Londoners, first dibs to Londoners, to scale the map
:25:10. > :25:13.to get the jobs of tomorrow. So I think what is important is for us to
:25:14. > :25:19.recognise that successive governments have failed London. We
:25:20. > :25:23.need America with the experience and political will to build homes for
:25:24. > :25:27.Londoners. I want to speak about your political position, you spoke
:25:28. > :25:32.to the Spectator magazine and said you welcome the fact we have 140
:25:33. > :25:40.plus billionaires in London. Did you really say that? Absolutely not. I'm
:25:41. > :25:44.there for Londoners, whether you're a billionaire, chief executive, a
:25:45. > :25:52.nurse, a bus driver or a dinner lady. You will go to Shanghai, the
:25:53. > :25:56.chief executive of Barclays Bank sitting next to you, you will lead a
:25:57. > :26:01.trade delegation out there batting for the great banks in the City of
:26:02. > :26:06.London to drum up business. The financial sector creates a lot of
:26:07. > :26:13.jobs, growth and brings investment to London as does the tech sector,
:26:14. > :26:19.creative industries. Of course I will be batting for them and I will
:26:20. > :26:23.join the Conservative Chancellor in the interests of London. I will join
:26:24. > :26:29.a conservative pro-Minister because I want to be a champion for London.
:26:30. > :26:33.A shop steward from London. You were the guy who nominated Jeremy Corbyn
:26:34. > :26:40.in the leadership election. Jeremy Corbyn has said, Peter Mandelson has
:26:41. > :26:47.talked scathingly saying he was relaxed about the filthy rich.
:26:48. > :26:50.Jeremy Corbyn said this is the time to call for public ownership and
:26:51. > :26:56.control of the banking sector. This is only 2012, not ancient history.
:26:57. > :27:01.You're as a completely different end of the party. Jeremy Corbyn, his
:27:02. > :27:06.name is not on the ballot paper for the 5th of May. I want to be the
:27:07. > :27:13.Advocate and the champion for London. You have changed your tune
:27:14. > :27:16.completely. To be fair to me, why nominated Jeremy Corbyn I made clear
:27:17. > :27:24.I had no intention of voting for him. During the selection process I
:27:25. > :27:28.was asked if I would serve in his Shadow Cabinet and I said no. I was
:27:29. > :27:32.clear about what my views where. You will regret not selecting him?
:27:33. > :27:38.You're trying to have it both ways. We have lost two general elections
:27:39. > :27:42.in a row, badly. The idea of the elite in Westminster blocking a
:27:43. > :27:47.Cabinet, fairly popular with the labour supporters, it is important
:27:48. > :27:53.that the labour movement got a chance to choose from a cross
:27:54. > :27:56.section of candidates. And Jeremy Corbyn was the winner amongst trade
:27:57. > :28:01.union supporters and registered supporters. We need to understand
:28:02. > :28:04.that I'm the guy standing to be the Mayor of London and Jeremy has an
:28:05. > :28:12.important job to do in the Labour Party. Sometimes we disagree on
:28:13. > :28:16.issues. On some things I would agree with the Conservative Prime Minister
:28:17. > :28:20.or Chancellor, the Home Secretary, the Business Secretary, Defence
:28:21. > :28:24.Secretary, to argue for London to stay an integral part of the EU for
:28:25. > :28:25.economic benefits, social and cultural benefits and security as
:28:26. > :28:29.well. Thank you very much. A petition in favour giving
:28:30. > :28:32.all young children the meningitis B vaccine has attracted getting
:28:33. > :28:43.on for 800,000 signatures. That is the biggest petition to
:28:44. > :28:45.Parliament in recent memory. At the moment, in this country,
:28:46. > :28:48.the vaccine is only given There have been some tragic cases
:28:49. > :28:52.of children who have died from the infection -
:28:53. > :28:54.and photos have been released of them recently,
:28:55. > :28:56.to draw attention to the danger. Here is one -
:28:57. > :28:58.two-year-old Faye Burdett, who died on Valentine's Day
:28:59. > :29:00.this year. The photo of her, obviously
:29:01. > :29:04.in a very bad way in a hospital bed, Medical opinion has not been
:29:05. > :29:08.convinced that the vaccine should be We'll talk about the dilemma
:29:09. > :29:14.with Dr Sarah Jarvis, But first, let's hear
:29:15. > :29:18.from Claire Timmins whose son Mason and who has been campaigning to
:29:19. > :29:33.raise awareness about the disease. Good evening to you. The terrible
:29:34. > :29:37.experience, just how quickly it happened, take us through what
:29:38. > :29:44.happened. It was so fast, he was totally fine on the Sunday evening,
:29:45. > :29:48.his normal joyful self. Went to bed around 6:30, woke up being sick, I
:29:49. > :29:53.presumed it was just a normal sickness bug, like many children
:29:54. > :29:59.have, spent the day on the sofa, and on the afternoon he got a bit of a
:30:00. > :30:04.temperature, and within half an hour his temperature had not really come
:30:05. > :30:09.down, so I decided to take him to the doctor, and as we were getting
:30:10. > :30:14.ready to go out of the door, he became sleepy, confused. We
:30:15. > :30:20.travelled the short journey to the doctor's. So you are getting more
:30:21. > :30:26.worried. As we got in the doctor's, he lost consciousness. At what
:30:27. > :30:30.stage, what was the first point when somebody said, could this be
:30:31. > :30:34.meningitis? Our doctor was really good, she recognised it straightaway
:30:35. > :30:41.and gave him the antibiotics straightaway. But it was too late.
:30:42. > :30:46.Yeah. Review you had been a trained medical person, was there a sign you
:30:47. > :30:50.could have spotted that would have said, that is meningitis? Before he
:30:51. > :30:58.was passing out, in the morning, for example. It sounds silly to say, but
:30:59. > :31:06.I had seen him a lot worse with viruses in the past. Up until he
:31:07. > :31:12.started to become sleepy and getting a little bit confused, it was just
:31:13. > :31:16.like any other viral infection. Were you aware of meningitis? I myself
:31:17. > :31:24.had a meningitis when I was younger, I was five. So I was a little bit
:31:25. > :31:31.aware, but not as much as I am now, obviously. And Mason has a sister,
:31:32. > :31:38.you have given her, you have active axe and eight it. She had and
:31:39. > :31:42.shortly after Mason passed away. Sarah Jarvis, take us through the
:31:43. > :31:46.issue about the vaccine, there is a short-term issue, which is that
:31:47. > :31:50.GlaxoSmithKline cannot make enough of the stuff, there is not much
:31:51. > :31:55.around at the moment. There has been an enormous run on private doctors
:31:56. > :31:59.to give the vaccine. I am delighted to be raising awareness, I have sat
:32:00. > :32:02.in chairs like this many times over the years trying to persuade parents
:32:03. > :32:09.that immunisation against infectious diseases saves lives, and so it is
:32:10. > :32:14.quite ironic for me to be here now, because in this case everybody wants
:32:15. > :32:17.this vaccine. We have got a horrible, horrible condition. It
:32:18. > :32:33.does not just cause meningitis, it is a germ that can cause many
:32:34. > :32:39.different conditions, it can lead to amputation and of course death. It
:32:40. > :32:45.is not that common. Last year, meningitis B in England, there were
:32:46. > :32:50.about 500 cases, of which about 139 cases were in children between the
:32:51. > :32:54.ages of one and five. The peak ages children under one, and that is why
:32:55. > :33:00.the vaccine at the moment is being given to children under one. And so
:33:01. > :33:06.we are world leaders in that, we should say, most children are not
:33:07. > :33:10.doing it at all. But to be clear, is it just the cost that says, let's
:33:11. > :33:19.not give it to everybody? Or is there a potential side-effect? So
:33:20. > :33:22.far, this seems to have been a very well tolerated vaccine, about 1
:33:23. > :33:26.million cases given overall, and there do not seem to have been any
:33:27. > :33:30.major side-effects. We know that other vaccines, because do not
:33:31. > :33:36.forget, this is not the only one, meningitis C, there were more cases
:33:37. > :33:42.of that, another strain of the same champ three. There were more cases
:33:43. > :33:47.of that, and we have had a vaccine for that for 20 years. Very sadly,
:33:48. > :33:51.you have to think about cost effectiveness, not so much cost.
:33:52. > :33:55.Even if we could give this vaccine for ?20 per dose, which I believe is
:33:56. > :34:00.the figure that has been negotiated by the Government with the company,
:34:01. > :34:08.over six-month-old babies need two doses. About 800,000 children in the
:34:09. > :34:13.UK needed, about 3.5 million children in the age range, about
:34:14. > :34:19.?144 million to immunise those children. There were 139 children
:34:20. > :34:26.who contracted meningitis B last year. How many of those children
:34:27. > :34:31.died or were seriously damaged? That figure is for England, it might be
:34:32. > :34:35.higher for the UK, but about one in ten of them die, and a lot of the
:34:36. > :34:40.others, it has to be said, seriously injured. But to put it into
:34:41. > :34:44.perspective, last year the entire child and adolescent mental health
:34:45. > :34:48.budget for the whole UK, for the mental health of everyone about
:34:49. > :34:52.young children under 18, was ?700 million. We are talking about a
:34:53. > :34:58.fifth of the cost of the entire budget to immunise this group of
:34:59. > :35:03.people, possibly save 20 lives. I will give you the last word, do you
:35:04. > :35:09.see the difficult calculation that the doctors have to do? I presume it
:35:10. > :35:15.does not make any difference to your calculation. No, we think it would
:35:16. > :35:18.be cost-effective, because what if people do survive? The after-care
:35:19. > :35:24.and all that side of things. Plus, you know, if we are not successful,
:35:25. > :35:29.we have still raised awareness, and by doing that that could have saved
:35:30. > :35:31.lives. If you get to the doctor more quickly. Thank you both.
:35:32. > :35:33.Even if you are not much into football,
:35:34. > :35:37.and I was someone who at school was so bad at it that I would run
:35:38. > :35:40.around the pitch trying to look like I was taking an interest,
:35:41. > :35:42.whereas I was actually ensuring I was nowhere near the ball.
:35:43. > :35:45.But even for the least football-minded among us,
:35:46. > :35:47.this Premier League season has a potential fairy-tale narrative
:35:48. > :35:49.that gives Cinderella a run for its money.
:35:50. > :35:52.It's Leicester City, the unfancied Midlanders
:35:53. > :35:55.who are keeping the moneybag clubs off the top of the table.
:35:56. > :35:56.So what does club success mean for Leicester,
:35:57. > :35:59.and - the big question - can City hold their nerve
:36:00. > :36:11.Who would have thought it, Leicester is Stephen Smith.
:36:12. > :36:16.Who would have thought it, Leicester City are the new Barcelona! Jamie
:36:17. > :36:24.Vardy has created Premier League history... Lionel Messi and to have
:36:25. > :36:31.their famous style, but Leicester have chicken tikka. The afternoon
:36:32. > :36:37.belonged to Leicester City. We fight to win, every ball is the last ball.
:36:38. > :36:41.Can it be true that this diversity is united behind the most unlikely
:36:42. > :36:49.superstars, and is sharing in their good fortune? Leicester City topped
:36:50. > :36:54.the Gemili table, I never thought I would say that! Evening, officer,
:36:55. > :36:59.could we have a word for Her Majesty's and Newsnight? That is a
:37:00. > :37:05.very big camera, Sir! I am more than excited, a lot of guys are very
:37:06. > :37:08.excited about Leicester being at the top of the premiership. It is nice
:37:09. > :37:14.to know Leicester is on the map or something. We are going to win!
:37:15. > :37:18.There is more positivity around, definitely, yes. What Leicester is
:37:19. > :37:23.proving is that it is about teamwork. When Leicester play, we
:37:24. > :37:30.get really worked up that they are going to score at least two goals. I
:37:31. > :37:35.am on the scent of Leicester's extraordinary success. There is
:37:36. > :37:42.that, and I never could resist a skate wing and pickled eggs. Anyone
:37:43. > :37:53.a Leicester fan? Number one fan! How are you? Nice to meet you. Stone me,
:37:54. > :37:59.it is Leicester City legend Steve Walsh! Are you a regular here? Every
:38:00. > :38:04.Friday, fish and chips he holds the record for the most red cards in the
:38:05. > :38:10.Football League, never mind Boris Johnson, he knows how to make an
:38:11. > :38:14.exit. It is famously a very diverse city, is everyone involved, or is it
:38:15. > :38:18.mainly white folks? I think everybody in the country wants us to
:38:19. > :38:24.win the league. The whole of Leicester, I speak to everyone, we
:38:25. > :38:30.are connected together as a city. I think the neutral does want to
:38:31. > :38:34.support us now. They can see the Jamie Vardy type of player coming
:38:35. > :38:42.from the non-league club, it is Roy of the Rovers kind of story. Look at
:38:43. > :38:47.that, beautiful! That is why I am this big now. Since the last
:38:48. > :38:52.election campaign, the BBC has learned to treat all man-made data
:38:53. > :38:56.with caution, but we are happy to rely on superstition and necromancy,
:38:57. > :39:02.and be taught in Richard III's resting place is that the success of
:39:03. > :39:07.the Foxes is linked to the supernatural. Many people did not
:39:08. > :39:11.pay much attention. When we buried Richard, the king in the car park,
:39:12. > :39:15.now the king in the cathedral, it adds to our sense of civic pride,
:39:16. > :39:19.and the team doing well means everyone is walking around with our
:39:20. > :39:27.chests up, it is great. I hardly dare mention it, but the theory that
:39:28. > :39:31.now Richard is at peace, this has encouraged Leicester to do so well.
:39:32. > :39:35.It would be a hard theory to prove, wouldn't it? But it is all part of
:39:36. > :39:39.that sense of us gaining confidence in our identity. In a
:39:40. > :39:43.that sense of us gaining confidence had history that has been buried and
:39:44. > :39:54.hidden, it is now revealed in all kinds of different
:39:55. > :39:55.hidden, it is now revealed in all of 1962-63 were
:39:56. > :40:09.hidden, it is now revealed in all freeze on at the time, right through
:40:10. > :40:19.the country. We were on first or second, I do
:40:20. > :40:23.the country. We were on first or delusions of even winning it, and
:40:24. > :40:28.then it's gradually fails you, and it is not just finishing second or
:40:29. > :40:33.third, we went down to seventh. It was a great season for us, because
:40:34. > :40:46.we were a ballot of Leigh small club compared to some of the big boys. --
:40:47. > :40:49.a ballot of Leigh -- a relatively small club, and the whole town was
:40:50. > :41:01.behind you. And small club, and the whole town was
:41:02. > :41:09.means to today's supporters, every ball in the crucial away fixture
:41:10. > :41:15.with Arsenal. It is mind games. No, it is my game! Leicester is a
:41:16. > :41:18.multicultural city, QC that in the stadium, a lot of different
:41:19. > :41:23.cultures, people of different backgrounds coming together to
:41:24. > :41:27.support the team. -- you see that. I hate missing the match, it was my
:41:28. > :41:31.best friend's birthday on the same day as a Leicester match, and I was
:41:32. > :41:38.so upset that I had to miss the match to go to her birthday meal. We
:41:39. > :41:41.had a weekend away, we were in the restaurant, and I had the live score
:41:42. > :41:45.on my phone the whole time, I kept telling her the whole time, I am
:41:46. > :41:54.missing it because of you, you had better appreciated! -- appreciate
:41:55. > :41:59.it! As we game plan the run-in to the title, their real goal is to
:42:00. > :42:05.finish in the top four, ensuring lucrative European football in the
:42:06. > :42:09.city next year. That would salve the pain of the Ice Kings and their
:42:10. > :42:14.winter of discontent. I'm afraid the bookies do put
:42:15. > :42:20.Arsenal and Tottenham ahead of Leicester, but that could leave them
:42:21. > :42:32.in the top four. That is all for tonight, have a very good night.
:42:33. > :42:38.Temperatures continuing to fall overnight tonight, and extensive
:42:39. > :42:40.frost to stop tomorrow morning. Overall, a sparkling day of winter
:42:41. > :42:41.sunshine for