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:00:00. > :00:09.Could George Osborne's budget be unravelling over disability cuts?

:00:10. > :00:12.Discontent is brewing among Tory backbenchers.

:00:13. > :00:15.I think it takes a backward step from where we

:00:16. > :00:22.So I, with other colleagues, the urging

:00:23. > :00:24.So I, with other colleagues, are urging

:00:25. > :00:26.the government to press the pause on it.

:00:27. > :00:29.We ask - what will the impact be on those effected?

:00:30. > :00:31.Also, tonight a runnning Newsnight investigation -

:00:32. > :00:35.another Labour figure, this time an MP, calls

:00:36. > :00:39.for an inquiry into bullying of Muslim women within the party.

:00:40. > :00:48.What experiences have you had that are similar? I have had members of

:00:49. > :00:51.the Labour Party having meetings from which I have excluded from.

:00:52. > :00:54.And Education Secretary, Nicky Morgan, has been laying

:00:55. > :00:56.out her big vision for the future of schools.

:00:57. > :00:58.We'll be grilling the schools minister on what it means

:00:59. > :01:14.With the dizzy political high afforded by the so-called sugar tax

:01:15. > :01:16.now dissipating, serious scrutiny of some of yesterday's more

:01:17. > :01:18.substantive budget announcements increased today.

:01:19. > :01:21.And cuts to support payments currently available to disabled

:01:22. > :01:23.people could well prove to be the most problematical

:01:24. > :01:30.Some Conservative MPs have already broken ranks and yet more have

:01:31. > :01:32.privately expressed concern that George Osborne's plan to save over

:01:33. > :01:37.?1 billion in Personal Independence Payments unfairly targets some

:01:38. > :01:58.The Chancellor was getting a lesson in how to change direction with a

:01:59. > :02:03.bit of elegance. Pupils in this leads school showing him skills that

:02:04. > :02:07.would be handy for politicians dash getting over daunting obstacles and

:02:08. > :02:11.bending over backwards. The Chancellor, make himself need to

:02:12. > :02:16.perform a nifty backflip in the coming days over disability welfare

:02:17. > :02:22.payments. There is growing disquiet on Conservative benches. We are on

:02:23. > :02:28.the side of trying to get vulnerable people to be independent, get into

:02:29. > :02:32.work or continue in work. That is the government is macro agenda, to

:02:33. > :02:39.improve their life chances. It is a backward step. I would urge other

:02:40. > :02:47.colleagues to press pause on it. The PIP, brought in in 2013 to replace

:02:48. > :02:51.the disability living allowance, on Friday the government announced the

:02:52. > :02:54.way it is calculated for some people, starting next January. We

:02:55. > :03:03.are looking at the government trying to save more than a billion pounds a

:03:04. > :03:08.year. It is a relatively small minority of those who are receiving

:03:09. > :03:13.PIP will lose. But those who will lose will lose significant amounts,

:03:14. > :03:20.more than ?3000 a year each. In 2013, this was the projection the

:03:21. > :03:26.new PIP system would save 2.5 Oleon and remove 600,000 claimants. Those

:03:27. > :03:30.savings never came. Every subsequent forecast has seen the costs rising

:03:31. > :03:36.and savings further. Without changes to the PIP, this is what the latest

:03:37. > :03:44.rejection was. With changes, the cost comes down a bit, but rises

:03:45. > :03:47.again from 2018. In 2010 when the government first introduced the

:03:48. > :03:53.fiscal consolidation programme, one of the things they did to make the

:03:54. > :03:57.sums add up, was pencil in a 20% cut in what was then disability living

:03:58. > :04:01.allowance, which is now the personal independence payment. They never

:04:02. > :04:05.planned how they would deliver to 20% cut and indeed, they haven't

:04:06. > :04:10.delivered it. The cuts have been announced in the last week and is a

:04:11. > :04:16.way of the government finding the money from PIP it promised to cut in

:04:17. > :04:19.2010, but never delivered. Today, the Chancellor was hinting there may

:04:20. > :04:24.be some flexibility in the government's position. We have got

:04:25. > :04:29.to make sure we have a system that works. We have set out proposals to

:04:30. > :04:34.do that. We are always happy to listen to proposals others may have

:04:35. > :04:42.on how we can improve on that. But we have got to make sure we control

:04:43. > :04:46.our disability budget, so as it rises, it absolutely goes to the

:04:47. > :04:52.people in our society who need it most. Today's photo opportunity was

:04:53. > :04:56.supposed to project a positive image of the Chancellor and his budget.

:04:57. > :05:02.That is now in danger, since the savings from disability welfare

:05:03. > :05:08.payments are set against cuts in capital gains tax, which will almost

:05:09. > :05:14.exclusively help the better off. It is hard to see who the beneficiaries

:05:15. > :05:18.to changes to capital gains tax are. But there will be people close to

:05:19. > :05:23.the top of the income and wealth distribution. In general, these are

:05:24. > :05:29.going to be right towards the top of the income and wealth distribution.

:05:30. > :05:32.More Conservative MPs are worried this juxtaposition of tax cuts to

:05:33. > :05:37.the rich and benefits cuts to some disabled people is poisonous but the

:05:38. > :05:42.government's reputation. We are more generous than previous governments

:05:43. > :05:50.in relation to disability. The PIP payments now is much better than the

:05:51. > :05:54.way Atos callously treated people. But this puts us on the back foot,

:05:55. > :06:01.when we should be looking at more long-term reform. It is a short-term

:06:02. > :06:06.fix and looking at other priorities, it doesn't sit so well. As the

:06:07. > :06:10.Chancellor sat down for breakfast, Whitehall sources were trying to

:06:11. > :06:14.untangle his budget and the benefit changes, which they insist nothing

:06:15. > :06:19.to do with it. The reforms to PIP, they say, have come after

:06:20. > :06:24.consultation an independent review. Nevertheless, it seems likely a

:06:25. > :06:26.rethink all have to be served up soon.

:06:27. > :06:31.Joining me now is disability rights campaigner Kaz Aston.

:06:32. > :06:38.It is tempting to see every cut as callous but the Chancellor is keen

:06:39. > :06:43.to see money reached the right people. It is not an infinite supply

:06:44. > :06:49.of money, what is the problem with the proposed changes to PIP? It is

:06:50. > :06:54.looking at over 200,000 people who will potentially lose ?3000 a year.

:06:55. > :06:57.You are on a reduced income anyway because you are quite often unable

:06:58. > :07:04.to work. It will take more pressure to take people to try to earn more

:07:05. > :07:08.money, or how they will manage, is a big question. But it is putting

:07:09. > :07:12.pressure on their health. We have got to remember they have a

:07:13. > :07:17.disability and stress isn't good. It will push them under the knife. What

:07:18. > :07:24.sort of things will they be spending the ?3000 on a moment? They could be

:07:25. > :07:29.spending it on extra care and extra support to manage their health. Also

:07:30. > :07:34.they can go to work and try to do more with their lives or education.

:07:35. > :07:38.People with a disability don't want to give up, but look at a more

:07:39. > :07:45.sustainable way to carry on and take an active role in society. The

:07:46. > :07:50.supply of money isn't infinite, it has been pointed out the overall

:07:51. > :07:55.expenditure is going up. As a country we spend more on looking

:07:56. > :07:59.after disabled people than on defence. There is nothing wrong with

:08:00. > :08:04.that, but there must come a point when every government has the right

:08:05. > :08:11.to say, we should save a bit there. If you have got to cut money, you

:08:12. > :08:15.have got to cut many. But for people trying to maintain their health and

:08:16. > :08:18.be as well and as independent as they can, they need support to do

:08:19. > :08:26.that. If you put more stress and pressure on them, it is a negative

:08:27. > :08:29.knock on. We are looking at 44% of the 5.5 million working age

:08:30. > :08:35.individuals in the UK who have a work limiting health condition,

:08:36. > :08:39.being in work, being employed. You mentioned people might have to find

:08:40. > :08:45.ways to raise more money, I don't want to sound like the child catcher

:08:46. > :08:50.out of Chitty, Chitty bang bang, but working might be the way? A lot of

:08:51. > :08:56.people don't want to give up work, people with MS, like I have got,

:08:57. > :09:01.quite have to return earlier because they cannot maintain the pace of

:09:02. > :09:06.work. With MS, more women have it than men, they have to look after

:09:07. > :09:11.children and extra pressures as well. So a lot of extra pressure

:09:12. > :09:18.going on the body, which for example, MS, finds it really hard.

:09:19. > :09:21.It is difficult to live with. Of course, a couple of Conservative MPs

:09:22. > :09:26.breaking ranks. I am hearing a few more might we waiting in the wings.

:09:27. > :09:32.Who is speaking for you politically at the moment, who is speaking for

:09:33. > :09:36.the recipients? There is a lot going on, a lot of good charities doing

:09:37. > :09:40.some good work, but this seems to have been rushed through quickly.

:09:41. > :09:45.Yes, of course, we need to be cutting costs all the time to keep

:09:46. > :09:50.the country going. However, sometimes you need to put a bit more

:09:51. > :09:57.thought into it. Is anyone championing disabled people? I know

:09:58. > :10:03.Jeremy Corbyn is waging war on them, who is defending them? We are having

:10:04. > :10:07.to fight for ourselves because there are so many agendas. It is quite

:10:08. > :10:10.lonely. When you are trying to manage your health and your

:10:11. > :10:12.lifestyle and keep as well as you can, you do feel alone. Many thanks

:10:13. > :10:16.indeed. Every state school in England

:10:17. > :10:18.will become an Academy and be removed from local authority

:10:19. > :10:21.control by the end of 2022, This unprecedented change

:10:22. > :10:24.to the education system was confirmed in a white paper

:10:25. > :10:27.unveiled by education Rather than the situation

:10:28. > :10:32.which existed before in which schools were islands

:10:33. > :10:34.and stronger heads were unable The weaker schools were left

:10:35. > :10:39.to languish under the monopoly We now have a system

:10:40. > :10:43.where the best leaders can take control of those weaker

:10:44. > :10:46.schools, turn them around, and in doing so, transform the life

:10:47. > :10:49.chances of young people Outstanding sponsors,

:10:50. > :10:54.great heads, successful trusts, aren't constrained by

:10:55. > :10:57.geographical borders. They can extend their reach

:10:58. > :11:01.to where ever they're needed, whether they can make

:11:02. > :11:04.that difference. The proposals have already been

:11:05. > :11:06.criticised by teaching unions, opposition politicians

:11:07. > :11:08.and educational charities. So why, in the cases

:11:09. > :11:13.of thriving schools, is the Government apparently

:11:14. > :11:16.eschewing the age old adage that if it ain't broke, you don't fix it

:11:17. > :11:20.and what does the future hold School Minister Nick Gibb joins me

:11:21. > :11:37.now, along with Newsnight's Chris Nick Gibb, the last Labour

:11:38. > :11:41.government introduced academy status for schools judged to need it. The

:11:42. > :11:45.Coalition Government extended academy status to schools who really

:11:46. > :11:51.wanted it. Your government is now imposing it on schools that neither

:11:52. > :11:56.need or want it? It is an extension of the successful policy of the last

:11:57. > :12:00.five years. We want to give professionals the autonomy to run

:12:01. > :12:06.their own school. They do already have that? This is giving them more

:12:07. > :12:10.autonomy and successful headteachers flourish when they are given the

:12:11. > :12:14.freedom academy status has brought. That is why we are seeing these good

:12:15. > :12:19.schools that have become academies, seven percentage points better than

:12:20. > :12:22.other schools. It gives the headteachers the freedom to run

:12:23. > :12:28.their own school, but extend the winning formula to other schools, so

:12:29. > :12:33.they can take what they are doing and apply it to weaker schools in

:12:34. > :12:37.the area. We want educational excellence in every part of the

:12:38. > :12:45.country and we leave the helm of those outstanding and teachers to do

:12:46. > :12:53.that. What does the look of freedom look like at the moment. What are

:12:54. > :12:59.you targeting? It means freedom over the curriculum, freedom over what

:13:00. > :13:02.they pay their staff. They have control over the day-to-day running

:13:03. > :13:11.of the school. The teachers who have had that freedom, they love it.

:13:12. > :13:17.There are plenty of academies that aren't flourishing? There are, but

:13:18. > :13:22.the academies programme takes swift action to underperformers. We

:13:23. > :13:26.enabled the regional school Commissioners around the country to

:13:27. > :13:30.take action, even changing the sponsor of an academy. This was my

:13:31. > :13:34.original point, the powers are already in place to help the schools

:13:35. > :13:39.that need it, the invitation is already in place. Why this

:13:40. > :13:45.compulsion, why are you forcing it on schools who are already

:13:46. > :13:49.performing extremely well? Your own department's figures shows me that

:13:50. > :13:52.of the school body is improving and most successful, it is an

:13:53. > :13:58.overwhelming majority of them are local authority run. The laws of

:13:59. > :14:01.logic would suggest you take the massive majority of excess and make

:14:02. > :14:06.everybody else emulate that is, you are doing it the other way around.

:14:07. > :14:10.When you look at the figures on the local authority, we have taken out

:14:11. > :14:16.the worst performing schools. So you can play with statistics. I am not

:14:17. > :14:20.playing with statistics, the figures dictate every school is included,

:14:21. > :14:32.the worst performing, the best performing, the slow performing. I

:14:33. > :14:38.can take you to an academy sponsor... They have taken schools

:14:39. > :14:42.underperforming and in special measures and transformed them into

:14:43. > :14:46.or three years to outstanding schools. We want that approach to

:14:47. > :14:52.happen across the country. Even when teachers don't want it and haven't

:14:53. > :14:55.asked for it. We want those headteachers to help across the

:14:56. > :15:02.country. These are the headteachers of some of the best schools in the

:15:03. > :15:06.country? We want them to help us with the underperforming schools in

:15:07. > :15:10.their area. It is about spreading the excellence. Only child gets one

:15:11. > :15:13.chance at education and we have to work together collaboratively and

:15:14. > :15:14.spread things that are working in those high performing schools. Where

:15:15. > :15:26.is the evidence? They are improving at twice the

:15:27. > :15:30.rate. Where is the evidence that taking a primary school already very

:15:31. > :15:35.good, the one my children go to, for example, and forcing them to become

:15:36. > :15:39.an Academy is going to make a good school even better? Those schools

:15:40. > :15:44.that have become voluntarily Academies, the results are 7%

:15:45. > :15:47.better. I am not asking about the voluntarily changing schools, but

:15:48. > :15:51.those quite happy with the situation as it is who had been told today

:15:52. > :15:56.they cannot carry on quite happily and successfully and have the change

:15:57. > :16:01.for reasons I fail to grasp. This is a five-year plan, we want schools to

:16:02. > :16:06.be part of a collaborative system, the multi-academy trusts system, to

:16:07. > :16:09.take what is working in successful schools and spread it to

:16:10. > :16:12.underperforming schools. There should not be underperforming

:16:13. > :16:16.schools in Alice Stem and in teaching and in education, we have

:16:17. > :16:22.to work together to make school every work or school, that is what

:16:23. > :16:27.parents want -- in our system. I am a parent and my children's school is

:16:28. > :16:32.brilliant, why do you need to change it? Because we want at school to

:16:33. > :16:37.help those that are not brilliant. Your children are lucky but many

:16:38. > :16:40.children go to schools... And failing schools can have Academy

:16:41. > :16:47.status imposed upon them? We need them to help the other schools. You

:16:48. > :16:49.broke this story, you would be education correspondent on the

:16:50. > :16:54.financial Times, have you dug into the detail of these proposals? Yes,

:16:55. > :17:00.there are big risks that the Minister I am sure will be aware.

:17:01. > :17:05.One of the biggest is that the Academy chains are just not that big

:17:06. > :17:11.and not that good at the moment. Especially outside London. The

:17:12. > :17:17.research shows that are only three chains that reliably, on the

:17:18. > :17:22.department's figures, improve results faster than the national

:17:23. > :17:25.average and better. They are all in London, that no Academies outside

:17:26. > :17:28.that position outside London. This will put enormous power on the

:17:29. > :17:33.Department of education and will require an enormous amount of

:17:34. > :17:38.implementation and administration to change the 15,000 schools from one

:17:39. > :17:42.status to another and the Department of education is a sort of

:17:43. > :17:46.catastrophe. One of the worst apartment in Whitehall. It was

:17:47. > :17:50.money, it struggles with budgets, it is very bad at doing basic

:17:51. > :17:54.administrative things and this is a big implementation risk. Over the

:17:55. > :17:57.last five years, that 1.4 million more children in good and

:17:58. > :18:02.outstanding schools today than in 2010. We have formed the primary

:18:03. > :18:08.curriculum, children are reading better, 120,000 six-year-olds this

:18:09. > :18:11.year reading more effectively than without the reforms. Emanating from

:18:12. > :18:14.the Department for education. We have reformed the GCSE

:18:15. > :18:17.qualifications, putting them on a par with the best in the world. As a

:18:18. > :18:22.consequence, more young people receive a better of it -- a better

:18:23. > :18:26.education. This white Paper ensures we take the successes of the last

:18:27. > :18:30.five years so they apply in every part of the country where for years

:18:31. > :18:35.they had been languishing with some underperforming schools, that is

:18:36. > :18:37.what this is about. The successes of the last five years point to the

:18:38. > :18:45.current system being effective, surely? And not in need of root and

:18:46. > :18:49.branch change. It is not just GCSE is your department is changing,

:18:50. > :18:54.A-levels, league tables, funding formulas, cuts. Your own department

:18:55. > :18:59.describes the workload crisis teaches base. Tenders -- changes

:19:00. > :19:05.have been mooted for primary assessment. And against that epic

:19:06. > :19:09.change in difficulty, you insist, incest, Minister, that every single

:19:10. > :19:13.state school in the country undergoes quite contemplated legal

:19:14. > :19:17.process that many of them have no desire to undertake whatsoever. You

:19:18. > :19:23.say Kotze, ?1.6 billion of extra funding. There is a one West! You

:19:24. > :19:28.can pick one word! We will have a much fairer system of funding. There

:19:29. > :19:32.has been a lot of change in terms of the curriculum and exam system in

:19:33. > :19:38.five years and in what is coming to fruition now. Premier schools are

:19:39. > :19:44.preparing Muslims years. In a time of change, which impose such a

:19:45. > :19:48.complicated legal process? -- preparing for the last five years.

:19:49. > :19:53.There will also be a period of stability for the curriculum as the

:19:54. > :19:58.changes begin and teachers learn how to teach the new curriculum. We have

:19:59. > :20:02.promised that. But we have to make sure that the excellence we have in

:20:03. > :20:06.successful schools in this country spreads to every part of the country

:20:07. > :20:08.and that is why we are changing the teacher training system and

:20:09. > :20:13.qualification system so every school is a good school. While I have the

:20:14. > :20:16.pleasure of your company, you saw the film we made about the

:20:17. > :20:21.disability cuts and some of your Parliamentary colleagues expressing

:20:22. > :20:28.grave misgivings. It is a while since I did maths, but the

:20:29. > :20:32.calculations I have done see about ?4.4 billion being taken from

:20:33. > :20:37.disabled people and about ?5.5 billion being given back to

:20:38. > :20:41.relatively high earners. This is the return of the nastier party. Not at

:20:42. > :20:46.all, the PIPs will go up in real terms in every year of this

:20:47. > :20:49.Parliament and there are more people in receipt of disability benefits as

:20:50. > :20:53.a consequence of what has happened in the last couple of years than

:20:54. > :21:00.before. We spent ?50 billion a year on disability benefits. There has

:21:01. > :21:03.been judicial cases in recent years that have extended PIPs that we

:21:04. > :21:07.introduced to help disabled people deal with the extra costs of

:21:08. > :21:13.day-to-day life as a consequence of their disability. Some of those

:21:14. > :21:16.cases have extended PIPs the people who do not have two incur extra

:21:17. > :21:20.costs as a consequence of their disability and that is why the

:21:21. > :21:25.government has consulted on how to address that issue and we will be

:21:26. > :21:27.consulting disability groups and Members of Parliament as we can

:21:28. > :21:29.comment those reforms. Many thanks indeed.

:21:30. > :21:32.The Labour MP for Bradford West, Naz Shah, has revealed details

:21:33. > :21:34.of what she claims are attempts by members of her local party

:21:35. > :21:43.She decided to speak out after a Newsnight investigation

:21:44. > :21:46.into the blocking of women entering politics in wards with high numbers

:21:47. > :21:54.Last week, the Luton MP Gavin Shuker told Newsnight's Katie Razzall

:21:55. > :21:57.that he had felt extremely pressured by elements within the party to stay

:21:58. > :21:59.silent about things he knew to be true.

:22:00. > :22:01.Labour's National Exectuive Committe has already taken over control

:22:02. > :22:06.Tonight, Naz Shah has been talking to Katie about her own experiences.

:22:07. > :22:18.But first, a quick reminder of the story.

:22:19. > :22:20.Six weeks ago, we broadcast claims by Muslim women

:22:21. > :22:23.that the Labour Party had a problem in its ranks.

:22:24. > :22:26.The charity Muslim Women's Network UK wrote to Jeremy Corbyn,

:22:27. > :22:30.talking of systematic misogyny by Muslim men in his party.

:22:31. > :22:33.We spoke to women who told us they had been sabotaged and blocked

:22:34. > :22:46.People were just turning up at my family home and trying

:22:47. > :22:49.Because I didn't have my father's consent and support,

:22:50. > :22:52.Labour officials must be allowing this to happen.

:22:53. > :22:56.After that report, more women approached us with experiences

:22:57. > :22:58.they said they'd had of the so-called biraderi,

:22:59. > :23:01.a kind of patriarchal clan politics that's often seen as an import

:23:02. > :23:08.These included councillors and ex-councillors from the party.

:23:09. > :23:11.I had phone calls to say, your son is five, do you want him

:23:12. > :23:15.Stuff was posted through my letterbox and when I opened it,

:23:16. > :23:19.a picture of a Page Three nude model and a picture of my

:23:20. > :23:24.Throughout our investigation, we've heard allegations of threats,

:23:25. > :23:26.pressure put on families and other tactics used against women,

:23:27. > :23:35.Though up till now, nobody in this town felt willing to go on camera.

:23:36. > :23:39.That was until our second report aired last Friday night.

:23:40. > :23:43.After watching it, the Labour MP for Bradford West, Naz Shah,

:23:44. > :23:45.wrote a stinging piece in the Huffington Post,

:23:46. > :23:47.saying the women's testimonies resonated with her because she'd

:23:48. > :23:51.experienced similar bullying and intimidation.

:23:52. > :23:54.She's agreed to talk to me exclusively about what's

:23:55. > :24:01.going on in the Labour Party, in seats like these.

:24:02. > :24:09.What experiences have you had that are similar to the women we have

:24:10. > :24:12.spoken to our investigation? I have had members of the Labour Party

:24:13. > :24:17.having meetings I have been excluded from. When those meetings have

:24:18. > :24:22.happened, I have been discussed and it has been agreed, somebody had a

:24:23. > :24:26.printed picture of me, somebody had an article printed of me and it was

:24:27. > :24:30.agreed they would look for further evidence to desecrate my character

:24:31. > :24:35.because I am a Muslim. In Muslim woman living in Bradford, that would

:24:36. > :24:40.really be very damaging for me culturally. What kind of picture? A

:24:41. > :24:47.picture of me and a friend at a party. Was it. There was a bar

:24:48. > :24:52.behind. I have not got a drink in my hand, I do not drink alcohol, but it

:24:53. > :24:58.was damaging. I was asked in my campaign between Labour members in

:24:59. > :25:05.one campaign office whether I was in a relationship with a serving MP at

:25:06. > :25:10.the time. I said, no, and I said, why? You would not ask a man that

:25:11. > :25:14.question. I challenged them and it was interesting. It was the kind of

:25:15. > :25:19.misogyny that exists, it is shocking. How does it work? The

:25:20. > :25:24.women from the communities we have spoken to say they are blocked and

:25:25. > :25:31.the selection process is dubious. Yes, it is because what happens is

:25:32. > :25:34.you have people, you have people that are agreed you will be selected

:25:35. > :25:38.and you will tell people how the boat and they will vote that.

:25:39. > :25:44.Amongst my six wards, there are some very dubious practices in some of

:25:45. > :25:50.those wards, not all sex, I must say. There is a higher number, I

:25:51. > :25:55.hired volume of Pakistani membership, that is a fact. -- a

:25:56. > :25:59.higher number. Where there is a higher number of Pakistani

:26:00. > :26:02.membership, it is a culture of gatekeeping and power politics for

:26:03. > :26:06.the sake of having power and that power resides with the men. How do

:26:07. > :26:14.this small number of men have the power? They control the electorate,

:26:15. > :26:17.it is family loyalties, climbed loyalties, a Pakistani model of

:26:18. > :26:21.doing things, which means you will follow your parents and your family,

:26:22. > :26:26.how your family will support that person. I have had good guys from

:26:27. > :26:30.the community who have said, please, please lot will never let you win

:26:31. > :26:37.another election, they will ruin you, just back down. Do you think

:26:38. > :26:40.that is true? A lot of women claim they were deselected because they

:26:41. > :26:48.were too vocal as councils. Could you be ousted? Absolutely. Because

:26:49. > :26:52.they control the electorate. And it is cultural, not religious? Let us

:26:53. > :26:55.be clear, this is not a Muslim issue. If anything, I get my

:26:56. > :27:02.strength from my religion to address this because inequality is not

:27:03. > :27:06.accepted in my religion. I get strength to challenge this had on

:27:07. > :27:11.through my faith. It is a difficult issue. People worry about appearing

:27:12. > :27:15.racist if they talk about it, do they? Let us be clear, there are

:27:16. > :27:18.times when you cannot address something because you will be seen

:27:19. > :27:24.as attacking that community. Never so much as now because of

:27:25. > :27:29.Islamophobia and the rise of that, do we tackle it, does it look like I

:27:30. > :27:35.am attacking my own community? No, I am doing the right thing, whether

:27:36. > :27:40.you are Muslim, white, black, Asian, pink, it does not matter, what is

:27:41. > :27:45.wrong is wrong. That has to be our starting point. It has to be for

:27:46. > :27:50.democracy, politics needs women. And women deserve better. Do you think

:27:51. > :27:55.the Labour Party is doing enough in this area? In terms of my

:27:56. > :27:58.experiences, I have had the most support from the Labour Party

:27:59. > :28:04.leadership. I am meeting with Jeremy Corbyn next week to look at these

:28:05. > :28:10.issues. I have had support from fellow women MPs, male MPs, I really

:28:11. > :28:12.have been supported, I have not had, experienced anything to stop what I

:28:13. > :28:18.am trying to do. Muslim Women's Network UK want an Independent

:28:19. > :28:24.enquiry by the Labour Party in this and they have Britain to Jeremy

:28:25. > :28:28.Corbyn scheme for it, do you support that? Absolutely. Do you think they

:28:29. > :28:33.will get that? Yes, I do not see why not, Labour being transparent in

:28:34. > :28:38.terms of fairness and justice and equality, we stand for that. I put

:28:39. > :28:41.that in my article, it is in my DNA and the Labour Party DNA and we

:28:42. > :28:45.should be transparent and open and if we need to be doing anything

:28:46. > :28:50.including an enquiry, we should do that. Why have you spoken out now?

:28:51. > :28:54.It is incumbent upon me, there is more reason to speak about it

:28:55. > :28:58.because I have come through the system. I have a responsibility to

:28:59. > :29:02.other women behind me and those women that do not help women, they

:29:03. > :29:04.say there is a special place in hell for them and I do not want to be

:29:05. > :29:06.there, simple. Naz Shah talking to

:29:07. > :29:07.Katie Razzall there. And the Labour Party have given us

:29:08. > :29:09.the following statement. "The Labour Party has been

:29:10. > :29:12.at the forefront of the fight We have transformed

:29:13. > :29:15.the representation of women in politics and championed equality

:29:16. > :29:17.for women in the workplace. Any complaints or evidence

:29:18. > :29:19.of sexism, intimidation, received by the Labour Party

:29:20. > :29:21.are dealt with fairly, according to our

:29:22. > :29:32.procedures and the law." EU leaders are tonight

:29:33. > :29:35.desp Party erately It's an urgent task,

:29:36. > :29:41.nnot just because a tidal wave of humanity continues

:29:42. > :29:47.to wash up on Greek shores, but also because the 28 heads

:29:48. > :29:49.of member states need to establish a united front before presenting it

:29:50. > :29:52.to the Turkish Prime Minister While the Dutch Prime Minister has

:29:53. > :29:59.spoken of the crisis being curtailed within a month of a deal

:30:00. > :30:01.being reached, his Lithuanian and Belgian counterparts have

:30:02. > :30:04.questioned the morality and even the legality of a plan to see

:30:05. > :30:06.all migrants travelling to Greece Damian Grammaticas is at

:30:07. > :30:24.the summit in Brussels. any sign of that deal? As we are

:30:25. > :30:29.talking now, the world filtering out is a leaders seem to be dotting the

:30:30. > :30:37.eyes and crossing the tea on that consensus. One thing is legal

:30:38. > :30:41.safeguards to guarantee that any refugee landing in Greece will get a

:30:42. > :30:46.hearing of their asylum claim before they could be returned. The second

:30:47. > :30:51.thing, is dealing with the concerns of Cyprus, which has a very troubled

:30:52. > :30:58.relationship with Turkey. I'm trying to progress Turkey's membership bid

:30:59. > :31:04.for the EU while keeping Cyprus's concerns in view as well. Turkey

:31:05. > :31:11.doesn't acknowledge or recognise the Cypriots government, so that is a

:31:12. > :31:17.stumbling block. Any others? If the leaders wrap up this deal, as we are

:31:18. > :31:20.hearing now, in the morning the Turkish Prime Minister will be here

:31:21. > :31:26.and it will be put to him. He will have two signed off on it as well.

:31:27. > :31:31.That is when you might see the most difficult negotiations, particularly

:31:32. > :31:34.over the EU saying they would take around 70,000 refugees from Turkey

:31:35. > :31:40.directly to the EU, in return for all of those being sent back to

:31:41. > :31:46.Turkey. That might not be acceptable to the Turks. They have said they

:31:47. > :31:50.don't want to become a holding pen for huge numbers of refugees heading

:31:51. > :31:52.for the EU. So many, many people might not be covered by these talks.

:31:53. > :31:55.Difficult talks ahead. Staying with the EU,

:31:56. > :31:57.the Polish Deputy Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki was in London

:31:58. > :31:59.earlier this week and was interviewed by Evan Davies,

:32:00. > :32:02.who began by asking him how worried he is by the prospect of Britain

:32:03. > :32:06.voting to leave the EU. I hope that the UK will remain

:32:07. > :32:10.as part of the European Union We have some geopolitical

:32:11. > :32:16.turbulence around us. In particular, when you look

:32:17. > :32:19.at the eastern border lines of the European Union,

:32:20. > :32:24.they are not as secure We have the situation in the Ukraine

:32:25. > :32:32.and in Russia and it is better to be Can we talk about

:32:33. > :32:35.the migrant crisis? Because you talk about these

:32:36. > :32:38.geopolitical differences. It is an agreement that will be

:32:39. > :32:45.taking probably quite a lot of Syrians from Turkey for putting

:32:46. > :32:47.into the European Union, And I am wondering how many

:32:48. > :32:53.Poland is happy to take? In Poland, we have a very specific

:32:54. > :32:56.situation because of the war We actually have accepted

:32:57. > :33:03.355,000 refugees. Not only refugees, but migrant

:33:04. > :33:07.workers, different people. In this figure, we also find many

:33:08. > :33:12.people who escape from the situation And with regard to the refugees,

:33:13. > :33:18.we also agreed to a figure to accommodate a specific number

:33:19. > :33:24.of refugees from the Middle East. For a country of more

:33:25. > :33:33.than 50 million people. And I wonder whether you'd be much

:33:34. > :33:41.better defending the rights of Poles to go to Britain, or the rights of

:33:42. > :33:46.Poles to get benefits in Germany... First, I would love those Poles

:33:47. > :33:50.to come back to Poland. You're very good at defending,

:33:51. > :33:53.if you like, migrants' rights when they're Polish migrants,

:33:54. > :33:56.but you have been very much less... Migrants coming to Spain and Italy

:33:57. > :34:01.from Northern Africa. We have people, refugees

:34:02. > :34:03.from the Middle East. I think the European Union has

:34:04. > :34:09.to take all those three elements of the whole refugee

:34:10. > :34:13.jigsaw into consideration. And we have helped to accommodate

:34:14. > :34:19.lots of refugees from the Ukraine. When we look at the clash of values,

:34:20. > :34:23.Western Europeans are frankly very worried about some of the things

:34:24. > :34:26.the Polish government They're worried about the commitment

:34:27. > :34:31.to what they would think Does it worry you that there

:34:32. > :34:43.is clearly a division? There is a split, but

:34:44. > :34:45.the split is obvious. We have been left after

:34:46. > :34:48.the Second World War and we have not Because of a frozen economy,

:34:49. > :34:53.some economists say. And we are now catching up

:34:54. > :34:56.in terms of the economy. In terms of the democratic

:34:57. > :34:59.standards, we are actually up to the standards which

:35:00. > :35:00.are in Western Europe, Look at the level of corruption,

:35:01. > :35:05.for instance, which is Corruption has actually

:35:06. > :35:12.been dropping. Poland is on a very strong global

:35:13. > :35:15.compared to countries like Italy or Spain, which are probably viewed

:35:16. > :35:23.by many Western Europeans How long do you think it will be

:35:24. > :35:28.before Poland reaches an income level, a wage level,

:35:29. > :35:30.that means Polish workers will not want to be leaving and going

:35:31. > :35:34.to richer countries in Western Well, I hope this level,

:35:35. > :35:41.we will be able to reach quite soon. Our current predictions

:35:42. > :35:44.for the average salary level in the European Union

:35:45. > :35:51.are around 2030. They are now on the level of 70%,

:35:52. > :35:54.69-70% of average EU. But you don't have to be

:35:55. > :35:59.on 100 not to migrate. I hope it will happen over the next

:36:00. > :36:04.five to seven years. Deputy Prime Minister,

:36:05. > :36:06.thank you very much indeed. Optogenetic treatment of neurons

:36:07. > :36:13.spawning dendritic spines This is neither a Scrabble crib

:36:14. > :36:20.sheet nor a sesquipedalian's fantasy sequence, but a process

:36:21. > :36:22.by which memories previously believed to have been banished

:36:23. > :36:24.by Alzheimer's disease can New research at the Picower

:36:25. > :36:31.Institute of Memory and Learning at the Massachusetts Institute

:36:32. > :36:41.of Technology has been conducted on mice with Alzheimers-like

:36:42. > :36:43.symptoms, but the ramifications for humanity could

:36:44. > :36:44.prove considerable. Dr Susumu Tonegawa is the research

:36:45. > :37:09.leader and a former winner Professor, what have you been doing

:37:10. > :37:14.and what are you most excited about? With Alzheimer's disease, it is well

:37:15. > :37:22.known that before the signature of this disease appears, there is a

:37:23. > :37:35.period of a few years where patients already show mammary impairments. --

:37:36. > :37:46.memory. Many researchers hoped is because these patients cannot form

:37:47. > :37:55.new mammary. We have shown in mouse models, these mice can form new

:37:56. > :38:00.memory very well. But they cannot retrieve the memory. That is the

:38:01. > :38:08.most exciting finding. The second exciting finding is we could cure

:38:09. > :38:25.this impairment of memory recall by increasing the connection of spines

:38:26. > :38:34.on the memory holding cells. Just a natural recall, the mouse showed

:38:35. > :38:39.normal, retrievable memory. I am going to embarrass myself, but you

:38:40. > :38:47.create these spines by shining a special type of light onto them?

:38:48. > :39:00.Yes, that is exactly what we did. It is a technology called Optogenetics.

:39:01. > :39:09.These memory sells, apply strength of Lou light, -- bluelight, we could

:39:10. > :39:15.increase the spine density of these memory bearing cells. The extension

:39:16. > :39:25.of this technology to human beings is within reach? It depends on

:39:26. > :39:33.technological development. Among the experts, the opinion is not the

:39:34. > :39:38.same. Some optimistic people will say some kind of a cure will be

:39:39. > :39:42.based on this type of principle can be done within the next few years,

:39:43. > :39:47.maybe three or four years. But more conservative engineers and

:39:48. > :39:53.researchers would say, it will take longer than that. What would you

:39:54. > :40:02.say, professor? I am not really an expert on this. I am not an

:40:03. > :40:08.engineering person. But I would be cautious. I make sure this type of

:40:09. > :40:14.research will provide us with precise information about where in

:40:15. > :40:25.the brain the brain cells should be activated. So I would be

:40:26. > :40:32.conservative, but eventually I think this type of experimental results

:40:33. > :40:41.will help engineers and surgeons to target specific small areas of the

:40:42. > :40:50.brain to simulate, to reduce the disorder. Many thanks indeed.

:40:51. > :40:52.Congratulations. Thank you very much. That is all we have time for

:40:53. > :41:11.tonight. Good night. Cloud is going to be a feature in

:41:12. > :41:17.the weather story over the next few days and a lot of it. It has been

:41:18. > :41:18.spilling into the North Sea and will continue