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:00:00. > :00:09.at the end of a couple of rough months.

:00:10. > :00:19.Where does the Prime Minister stand with his people?

:00:20. > :00:25.Cameron, the competent Prime Minister who looks the part, and

:00:26. > :00:28.Cameron the posh boy out of touch. The posh boy who was out of touch, I

:00:29. > :00:32.agree. Eton posh boy. We'll give you the longer

:00:33. > :00:34.version of the view And take stock of the

:00:35. > :00:37.Prime Minister's stock. He's not a far-right candidate

:00:38. > :00:46.in any sense, he's not pitching it

:00:47. > :00:49.to the skinheads or the Klan He's an Alf Garnett

:00:50. > :00:57.cheering on his football team. Working in a central London office

:00:58. > :01:02.for many years, I became incredibly frustrated with the lack of access

:01:03. > :01:05.I had to the natural world. One lunch break, I took a sandwich,

:01:06. > :01:10.stepped into the park next to the office

:01:11. > :01:12.and shimmied up a tree. But is this man right?

:01:13. > :01:25.Are we overthinking our happiness? So the hashtag #CameronResign

:01:26. > :01:30.has been trending all day. Ken Livingstone even

:01:31. > :01:32.tentatively suggested It's not been the kind of attention

:01:33. > :01:39.a Prime Minister wants, but we do know that neither Twitter

:01:40. > :01:41.or Ken Livingstone are entirely representative

:01:42. > :01:43.of broad public opinion. So what, actually, do the public

:01:44. > :01:54.think about the Blairmore affair? The headline writers

:01:55. > :01:56.got the first say, So two questions

:01:57. > :02:03.on what we've learned about the Prime

:02:04. > :02:05.Minister this week. One, how does it play,

:02:06. > :02:07.what do people think about it? And two, do they think

:02:08. > :02:10.that about him anyway? Has it actually changed

:02:11. > :02:12.anybody's mind? Well, where better to test public

:02:13. > :02:16.opinion in an unscientific way So, look, we've got these

:02:17. > :02:24.two pictures of David Cameron, help me out with this one,

:02:25. > :02:27.and put this one there. So what do we think

:02:28. > :02:30.of the Cameron on the left, Character, if anything.

:02:31. > :02:34.Character? I think he looks slightly out

:02:35. > :02:39.of touch, power. Out of touch.

:02:40. > :02:42.Yeah. What about the one on the right?

:02:43. > :02:45.What's the one on the right? That is kind of, I think,

:02:46. > :02:47.how he would like you do think of him.

:02:48. > :02:49.Authoritative. Leader. Which of these two is the more...

:02:50. > :02:57.Which is the real Cameron? or the Prime Minister looking

:02:58. > :03:03.policy man on the right? I think more the posh

:03:04. > :03:07.boy, the Eton lad. Yeah, the one on the

:03:08. > :03:10.left is more Cameron. Has the story this week

:03:11. > :03:16.in any way changed your view? and he shouldn't necessarily be

:03:17. > :03:28.punished just for being privileged. He's that position, and it's

:03:29. > :03:30.an opportunity that a lot of people would like to be in.

:03:31. > :03:33.I don't hold it against him. What about you?

:03:34. > :03:35.Has your view changed? You've read about these

:03:36. > :03:40.Panama Papers, shares offshore. I think, given what he's supposed

:03:41. > :03:44.to stand for, what the Tories are supposed to stand for,

:03:45. > :03:47.I think it's slightly hypocritical. I think he should have closed them

:03:48. > :03:51.prior to the Panama Papers, because we've talked about that,

:03:52. > :03:55.we need a fair economy, one society, and we are trying to crack down

:03:56. > :03:59.on people evading taxes. I really wished he'd

:04:00. > :04:03.disclosed it sooner, rather than waiting for it

:04:04. > :04:06.to be out in the open, put in a corner now that he

:04:07. > :04:09.has to say something about it. Joe? A lot of people jump

:04:10. > :04:13.on people's backs Perhaps he could have

:04:14. > :04:19.admitted it earlier. Could have handled it better.

:04:20. > :04:29.Could have handled it differently. You are, I think, the one who has

:04:30. > :04:32.the least favourable view of David Cameron,

:04:33. > :04:34.would you take it You put me in a very difficult

:04:35. > :04:38.position. Be honest! You think you could make

:04:39. > :04:40.a little bit of money. If I think about the financial

:04:41. > :04:44.situation I am in now, I think yeah. That is another side

:04:45. > :04:47.of it, but financially, From the King and Queen pub

:04:48. > :04:51.to the king of public opinion, In general, he is viewed

:04:52. > :04:57.as a competent, safe pair of hands, Perhaps he is viewed

:04:58. > :05:06.as a strong leader. In general, over the last few

:05:07. > :05:09.months, there has been a bit It seems to have been more among

:05:10. > :05:18.Conservatives and Ukip voters, which would suggest that it may be

:05:19. > :05:21.a case of the referendum and all of the events around

:05:22. > :05:26.that impacting on his ratings. It's only an scientific snapshot

:05:27. > :05:29.of public opinion that we have right now on the specifics

:05:30. > :05:30.of the Cameron admission, but the evidence generally

:05:31. > :05:33.is that it has been a fraught few One YouGov poll did put

:05:34. > :05:46.Jeremy Corbyn's approval rating That was actually this week

:05:47. > :05:51.rather than since last night. Significant?

:05:52. > :05:53.A real change occurring? Let's talk to Ayesha Hazarika,

:05:54. > :05:55.the former Labour advisor. and Mail on Sunday columunist

:05:56. > :06:12.Rachel Johnson. Let's just start on public opinion,

:06:13. > :06:16.how do you think it is playing? Well, I think people have priced it

:06:17. > :06:20.into how they view Cameron. I think most people do think he is quite

:06:21. > :06:25.true to the Nadine Dorries, posh boy that does not know the price of

:06:26. > :06:29.milk. I think they are not surprised at the fact that his father was very

:06:30. > :06:33.wealthy, they are not surprised that his father's name came up in those

:06:34. > :06:37.papers, and they are not really surprised that this has happened. I

:06:38. > :06:41.think people have been surprised by the incompetence with which Cameron

:06:42. > :06:46.has handled this. As a former PR specialist, to have denied something

:06:47. > :06:51.four or five times and then had to admitted... Or evaded it. A lot of

:06:52. > :06:58.the public and people I have spoken to who have been running focus

:06:59. > :07:01.groups, it ties up with what your own we focus group found out. The

:07:02. > :07:04.public think it is not great, but they have priced it into their

:07:05. > :07:09.overall impression of Cameron. I think this is playing extremely

:07:10. > :07:12.badly with the public, but that is because it is entirely of his own

:07:13. > :07:16.making. Why didn't he come clean at the beginning of the week and

:07:17. > :07:21.admitted had this ?30,000, instead of saying it is a private matter?

:07:22. > :07:25.And then saying he has had no shares in the future. And then backtracking

:07:26. > :07:29.on that, and then getting aggressive, saying put up or shut

:07:30. > :07:35.up, then having to come clean. As you say, a terrible PR move. Let's

:07:36. > :07:40.separate the PR from it for a moment, the essence of the issue,

:07:41. > :07:43.Rachel, mountain or molehill? It is definitely a molehill that has been

:07:44. > :07:50.turned into a mountain, but David Cameron has mounted the foothills

:07:51. > :07:55.himself. As you say, not getting all the bad news out, and then quickly

:07:56. > :08:01.moving on. How did this happen? What went wrong? He is a PR guy. One of

:08:02. > :08:06.the big mistakes they have made as well, all the things that Suzanne

:08:07. > :08:10.said, but it is very hurtful for his family and very upsetting for his

:08:11. > :08:15.father and all, but he did not take the same approach with Ed Miliband.

:08:16. > :08:20.With his brother, his father, anyone who had met Ed was fair game. There

:08:21. > :08:26.is a sort of double standard, his PR handling, and also the cover-up, it

:08:27. > :08:31.seems worse than what is happening. I don't actually agree. I think the

:08:32. > :08:37.fact that the pictures of Ian Cameron have been displayed

:08:38. > :08:39.alongside pictures of Putin and Poroshenko and Gaddafi, every

:08:40. > :08:45.kleptocratic and mention, has actually, I think the public find

:08:46. > :08:49.that rather distressing... Do you find it distressing? I think the

:08:50. > :08:53.public and stand that he does, and the reason that he, for the wrong

:08:54. > :08:57.reasons, killed the story, because he could not bear his father's name

:08:58. > :09:08.being dragged through the mud. Suzanne. He didn't kill the story,

:09:09. > :09:12.he it running. Can I make a point? Some newspaper said that Ed

:09:13. > :09:16.Miliband's dad hated Britain, so I think there are double standards. Do

:09:17. > :09:20.you think this is game changing in terms of the perceptions of the

:09:21. > :09:24.party? Is it going to be big? Another occasions people might have

:09:25. > :09:27.thought something big was going to happen. We experienced something

:09:28. > :09:31.with the phone hacking in the Labour Party, when this happens, you can

:09:32. > :09:36.have the feeling that this will be game changing, and I think it will

:09:37. > :09:40.have a profound effect on the local elections, on the London elections,

:09:41. > :09:46.and possibly for the EU referendum. Fast forward to 2020, will it be an

:09:47. > :09:50.issue that moves the needle? I don't think it will. I think it will move

:09:51. > :09:54.the needle on the Brexit campaign, because towards the end of the week

:09:55. > :09:57.what happened was an attempt to deflect personal attention away from

:09:58. > :10:04.him, but we get this announcement of this piece of EU propaganda, this

:10:05. > :10:06.leaflet that the Government, having said it will not