:00:00. > :00:00.Political excitement across Britain tonight with counting underway
:00:07. > :00:17.But exclusively on Newsnight, more trouble for Jeremy Corbyn
:00:18. > :00:21.as one of the MPs who nominated him says Labour is going backwards
:00:22. > :00:23.and the leader's inner team is dividing the party.
:00:24. > :00:34.Zac, do you feel comfortable with the prominence of race in this
:00:35. > :00:38.campaign? I'm not doing interviews at this minute. But do you feel
:00:39. > :00:40.comfortable? Very comfortable with this campaign.
:00:41. > :00:43.The Conservative Party's top man in London tells us Zac Goldsmith's
:00:44. > :00:45.controversial campaign for London Mayor has
:00:46. > :01:00.Is it ever possible to please everybody in a trading union?
:01:01. > :01:03.The last in our trilogy on what became of the European Union dream.
:01:04. > :01:14.We need to start thinking about mental health from birth and giving
:01:15. > :01:16.children the tools they need to develop high self-esteem.
:01:17. > :01:19.She was the government's first ever mental health champion for schools.
:01:20. > :01:21.Now her job has been axed after she talked to head
:01:22. > :01:23.teachers about the pressure on today's schoolchildren.
:01:24. > :01:37.Scottish Parliamentary elections, English and Welsh local elections,
:01:38. > :01:49.It's been a cornucopia, a feast of politics, and big eruptions too,
:01:50. > :01:53.not least Labour's problems with anti-semitism, and accusations
:01:54. > :01:56.by Zac Goldsmith that his Labour opponent who's most like to be
:01:57. > :01:57.the new London mayor, gave oxygen to extremists.
:01:58. > :02:00.Before we embark on any post poll analysis, here's
:02:01. > :02:04.It's great to be here in Richmond, and this is where it
:02:05. > :02:09.all started for Zac, who would be an outstanding Mayor of London.
:02:10. > :02:12.We're looking to gain seats where we can.
:02:13. > :02:16.I'm asking people to elect an SNP government with me as First Minister
:02:17. > :02:19.so that we can invest record sums in our health service.
:02:20. > :02:22.I'm in this because I believe in tackling poverty and inequality.
:02:23. > :02:29.It's what drives me out of my bed every single day.
:02:30. > :02:36.More homes, better transport, safer streets.
:02:37. > :02:41.More homes, better transport, safer streets.
:02:42. > :02:42.I hope Londoners choose hope over fear.
:02:43. > :02:44.My campaign has been overwhelmingly positive.
:02:45. > :02:46.So what are you saying about Sadiq Khan?
:02:47. > :02:50.I have made it very clear that I have never suggested that
:02:51. > :02:51.Sadiq Khan is an extremist in any way.
:02:52. > :02:56.I'm a Bollywood fan, so anything with a Bollywood
:02:57. > :03:02.Do you have a favourite actor or a favourite Bollywood film?
:03:03. > :03:10.That was Hitler's policy when he first came to power.
:03:11. > :03:13.I think you've lost that Mr Livingstone.
:03:14. > :03:15.Is it good politics to bring up Adolf Hitler?
:03:16. > :03:30.Come on everybody, let's head down the...
:03:31. > :03:39.Emily is in the election results studio.
:03:40. > :03:48.Emily. A campaign not short of drama and we should get more in a few
:03:49. > :03:53.moments time, this screen will light up as results start pouring in, and
:03:54. > :03:58.we will see how the political landscape is changing since that
:03:59. > :04:01.extraordinary night in 2015. It is impossible to stress enough that
:04:02. > :04:05.this is not one British election, it is a series of votes that could
:04:06. > :04:09.yield different results in different places. If you see labour struggling
:04:10. > :04:13.in Scotland, they could still have a good night in Wales, or if the
:04:14. > :04:18.Tories go backwards in Wales they could still pick up seats in
:04:19. > :04:22.England. Some results will be a referendum on party leaders old and
:04:23. > :04:25.new, but not all. When we start to look at the direction of travel,
:04:26. > :04:30.what is happening to the share of the vote, you will want to look out
:04:31. > :04:33.for Ukip in Wales perhaps or who comes second in Scotland, whether
:04:34. > :04:36.the Lib Dems show any signs of recovery. I'll show you some of the
:04:37. > :04:41.things we are looking out for, some key battles. Trafford, for example,
:04:42. > :04:47.controlled right now by the Conservatives. Can they hang on in
:04:48. > :04:50.one of their only big metropolitan councils in the north? We'll see
:04:51. > :04:57.what happens there. Same sort of battle in Crawley. Now, this is
:04:58. > :05:08.Labour's handful of Southern California is -- handful of Southern
:05:09. > :05:12.Council. And watch out for Dudley, will Ukip start to come through and
:05:13. > :05:15.through the result? We may even get the start of results in for
:05:16. > :05:19.somewhere like Sunderland or Newcastle, Sunderland comes quickly,
:05:20. > :05:23.if we do I'll bring them to you as soon is we get them here. Right now
:05:24. > :05:28.we will talk to our new political editor, thrown in at the deep end,
:05:29. > :05:32.that's how we like to do things. Nick, some breaking news? That's
:05:33. > :05:39.right, Sky News have broken the news that ad Andy Burnham is giving
:05:40. > :05:43.serious consideration to standing for the new post of mayor of greater
:05:44. > :05:51.Manchester. The BBC have confirmed that he is giving it very serious
:05:52. > :05:55.consideration, and that he has been approached. Why is he doing this?
:05:56. > :05:59.The personal reason is he would say, he tried to stand for the leadership
:06:00. > :06:04.twice, it did not quite work out, maybe you should do something new.
:06:05. > :06:09.There is also a political reason. Andy Burnham is saying that Labour,
:06:10. > :06:12.which is going to do really badly in Scotland tonight, made a terrible
:06:13. > :06:17.mistake when the Scottish parliament was founded in 1999, only one big
:06:18. > :06:20.beast went there, now we've got these elected mayors across England
:06:21. > :06:24.and he's saying we need a big beast doing it. It sounds very positive
:06:25. > :06:31.but what would be the knock-on for Jeremy Corbyn? He would be elected
:06:32. > :06:35.next year, 2017, is three years away from surely when he will be Home
:06:36. > :06:39.Secretary. Andy Burnham knows that there will probably not be a Labour
:06:40. > :06:43.Home Secretary in 2020, so look for pastures new. What the Corbyn camp
:06:44. > :06:49.is saying to mag is that they could face but no official party has faced
:06:50. > :06:52.outside a general election year since 1985 which is a net loss of
:06:53. > :06:57.seats. They are saying that's not a crisis because you should be looking
:06:58. > :07:00.not when these last seats were 14 2012 but what happened in the local
:07:01. > :07:05.elections last year when Labour just got 29%. Other people in the Labour
:07:06. > :07:08.Party are saying that's not good enough and the jungle drums are
:07:09. > :07:12.beginning to beat and I think we are going to find people standing up. If
:07:13. > :07:17.Sadiq Khan wins in London he is going to say he won by being
:07:18. > :07:20.pro-business and reaching out across the political spectrum. Give us a
:07:21. > :07:25.sense of the mood in that party and in all parties right now. There is a
:07:26. > :07:29.message in terms of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership coming out of the Corbyn
:07:30. > :07:34.camp. They have said to me, if there is a coup, bring it on, because
:07:35. > :07:37.Jeremy Corbyn will be on the ballot, Jeremy Corbyn will win, and more
:07:38. > :07:43.than that he will do even better than he did last year. Their message
:07:44. > :07:47.is, you want to do it, bring it on. What is interesting is that barring
:07:48. > :07:51.a big accident tonight, and that big accident would have to be Sadiq Khan
:07:52. > :07:55.not winning in London, barring that big accident I do not believe that
:07:56. > :08:00.we are going to be seen immediately a leadership challenge, but what we
:08:01. > :08:03.are going to see is new faces raising concerns about his
:08:04. > :08:06.leadership, and it's interesting. We'll be hearing soon on Newsnight,
:08:07. > :08:12.Kirsty will be interviewing me or call oh, one of the Labour MPs who
:08:13. > :08:17.nominated but didn't back Jeremy Corbyn last you. He's going to be
:08:18. > :08:23.raising concerns about the direction of the party under Jeremy Corbyn's
:08:24. > :08:26.leadership. Fascinating. We'll get the first results in overnight from
:08:27. > :08:29.the north of England, Scotland, Wales. We will not get that may oral
:08:30. > :08:33.result until tomorrow evening possibly. You have interviews to do,
:08:34. > :08:36.Kirsty, back to you. I'm joined by Neil Coyle whose
:08:37. > :08:47.nomination of Jeremy Corbyn last year ensured his name would be
:08:48. > :08:53.on the ballot. As we're heard from Nick,
:08:54. > :09:01.he's now unhappy. What would be a good night and what
:09:02. > :09:04.would be a bad night? At this stage, after six years of Tory led
:09:05. > :09:08.government we should not be losing seats. If the Labour Party is going
:09:09. > :09:13.to be back in government where I wanted to be an Labour members
:09:14. > :09:18.wanted to be, we need to be winning, not losing anything this evening. I
:09:19. > :09:21.very much hope the activists, campaigners and supporters who have
:09:22. > :09:25.been out all day today and for weeks and months this year, I hope the
:09:26. > :09:31.results to come through and it isn't as bad a picture as is being
:09:32. > :09:35.projected. You heard Nick saying he looks to you as somebody now coming
:09:36. > :09:40.out and voicing concerns about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership and the
:09:41. > :09:47.group around him in that leadership. What do you think the problem is?
:09:48. > :09:50.Well, the problem for me is that, I won in last year in Bermondsey and
:09:51. > :09:53.Southwark, constituency that hadn't had a Labour MP for more than three
:09:54. > :09:58.decades, and a constituency that very much needs a Labour government.
:09:59. > :10:02.Problem as we seem to be seen again tonight, and I hope it is not
:10:03. > :10:06.accurate, that we are moving further away from government. I think that
:10:07. > :10:11.is because we seem to be fixated on some issues that are peripheral, and
:10:12. > :10:16.we seem to have a team that is not projecting either unity within the
:10:17. > :10:20.party or a vision, and policies that the voters want us to see. When I'm
:10:21. > :10:25.out knocking on doors in Bermondsey they need to know what our policies
:10:26. > :10:29.are on housing and education. And too often all they seem to be
:10:30. > :10:33.hearing is anti-Tory, not pro-labour. Choose Labour because we
:10:34. > :10:37.will have a better education system. Is this coming out of the inner
:10:38. > :10:43.circle, and where do you lay the blame for this? There is a core team
:10:44. > :10:47.that seem unable to get out of the mindset that is, they are out to get
:10:48. > :10:51.us. Look at what Nick was saying about, if there is a coup. This is
:10:52. > :10:55.not about a coup, I am here because I want a Labour Prime Minister and a
:10:56. > :11:03.Labour government. Tonight is results look like they will send us
:11:04. > :11:06.back from that. You say you are backpedalling. Do you have people in
:11:07. > :11:11.mind that are too close to Jeremy Corbyn and giving him the wrong idea
:11:12. > :11:14.is? It is not about being too close to Jeremy Corbyn. There are people
:11:15. > :11:19.that share a particular creed in the party but it is about not having
:11:20. > :11:23.enough diversity in that team. Then need to be people in that team that
:11:24. > :11:27.do not share one vision on unilateralism or whatever it might
:11:28. > :11:32.be. We need people there to say what the platform has to be on housing
:11:33. > :11:36.for example. And who are able to say we cannot just have an anti-Tory and
:11:37. > :11:41.a divisive agenda that is about, we are not for the rich, we are only
:11:42. > :11:45.for a certain group. Are there more people like you that will be coming
:11:46. > :11:49.out in the coming days and weeks? I don't know. I'm hearing from
:11:50. > :11:53.colleagues, MPs and councillors across the country who are saying
:11:54. > :11:58.how bad it is in certain areas. I think there will be a frustration.
:11:59. > :12:01.There is no one in the Labour Party who doesn't want a Labour
:12:02. > :12:06.government. I think the way to get to a Labour government is to be
:12:07. > :12:11.honest, robust, and look at, why have we fallen backwards and not on
:12:12. > :12:17.forwards now? You nominated Jeremy but you didn't vote for him, you
:12:18. > :12:23.voted for Yvette Cooper. If there is an attempt at a coup, you have all
:12:24. > :12:28.the members falling behind him. You put him there and he is there to
:12:29. > :12:34.stay, do you regret that? Well I nominated Jeremy because I wanted to
:12:35. > :12:37.broadened the debate, and unfortunately it has been fixated on
:12:38. > :12:42.peripheral issues that are not related to the day-to-day, the doors
:12:43. > :12:47.I knock on in Bermondsey. I regret the fact that we seem to be moving
:12:48. > :12:51.back beyond Ed Miliband's first year as Labour leader which led to a
:12:52. > :12:54.general election defeat. If we fallen back on that I can't do
:12:55. > :12:58.anything but regret that nomination and that's a very sad position to
:12:59. > :13:02.be. There is still time to turn that around. We need unity in the team
:13:03. > :13:05.and we need to be building the policy platform that brings voters
:13:06. > :13:14.back to Labour. Thank you very much indeed.
:13:15. > :13:17.As we heard from Neil Colye, Labour's leader's facing a lot
:13:18. > :13:20.of challenges right now not least the row over anti semitism in the
:13:21. > :13:28.Has this damaged your leadership? Since Jeremy Corbyn announced
:13:29. > :13:33.Labour's enquiry into anti-Semitism at least six more party members have
:13:34. > :13:38.been suspended. This is what we know and it's not much. The enquiry will
:13:39. > :13:45.be chaired by Shami Chakrabarti. The former director of liberty. The
:13:46. > :13:47.deputy chair is Professor David Feldman, director of the Pears
:13:48. > :13:52.Institute for the Study of Anti-Semitism. They will report back
:13:53. > :13:56.within two months. Less than a week in, questions are being raised about
:13:57. > :13:59.Professor Feldman and whether he is truly independent. Professor Feldman
:14:00. > :14:04.is a signatory to a group called Independent Jewish voices. On Sunday
:14:05. > :14:08.it released a statement saying that while there had been comments which
:14:09. > :14:15.had clearly crossed the line of anti-Semitism, it added...
:14:16. > :14:41.Professor Feldman referred to comments he made in the Jewish
:14:42. > :14:43.Chronicle where he said the statement couldn't possibly reflect
:14:44. > :14:45.the views of every single Independent Jewish voices and
:14:46. > :15:12.signature in. is his previous published work on
:15:13. > :15:16.what does and doesn't constitute anti-Semitism. My understanding that
:15:17. > :15:22.in a previous report of Professor Feldman has ruled out the
:15:23. > :15:26.possibility of the notion that equating the actions of the state of
:15:27. > :15:32.Israel with those of Nazi Germany, who led the systematic orchestrated
:15:33. > :15:37.mass genocide of 6 million Jews and many millions of others can ever be
:15:38. > :15:40.anti-Semitic. As somebody who has prejudged this to the extent that a
:15:41. > :15:43.set of troops and narratives that the majority of Jewish people in
:15:44. > :15:48.this country today fined for apartment, offensive and certainly
:15:49. > :15:52.to have anti-Semitic impact doesn't seem to me somebody who will inspire
:15:53. > :15:57.the confidence of the Jewish community in terms of the job he has
:15:58. > :16:00.been asked to do. Several senior Labour Party members have expressed
:16:01. > :16:06.concern at how this whole situation has been handled by the leadership.
:16:07. > :16:11.And inquiry of this sort are about giving reassurance, should consult
:16:12. > :16:14.with mainstream Jewish community organisations. It should think
:16:15. > :16:19.carefully about who is involved in it. And there should be careful
:16:20. > :16:24.thought about whether it should be a leader 's enquiry or a Labour Party
:16:25. > :16:27.inquiry. Its point of reference should be carefully thought out.
:16:28. > :16:31.Newsnight understands there are some in the Labour leadership your
:16:32. > :16:35.knowledge decisions about this enquiry into anti-Semitism were made
:16:36. > :16:38.in haste. But they add they would have faced criticism whoever they
:16:39. > :16:44.had appointed. It is significant that today, polling day, both Shami
:16:45. > :16:49.Chakrabarti and those at the top of the party have met with Jewish
:16:50. > :16:52.groups to try to reassure them. Some Labour members are now pushing for
:16:53. > :16:58.more expertise to be added to the inquiry panel. But it's still too
:16:59. > :17:00.early to know whether the party handling of allegations of
:17:01. > :17:05.anti-Semitism will have any impact on votes. A Labour Party
:17:06. > :17:15.spokesperson gave us this statement. Professor David Feldman will be vice
:17:16. > :17:19.chair of the inquiry set up by Jeremy Corbyn. The inquiry and
:17:20. > :17:22.report will be led by Shami Chakrabarti, who has already begun
:17:23. > :17:27.work into ensuring the inquiry will be rigorous, fairer and
:17:28. > :17:27.representative. Jeremy Corbyn isn't the only embattled senior
:17:28. > :17:34.Jeremy Corbyn's not the only embattled senior politician.
:17:35. > :17:36.Zac Goldsmith's campaign to be be Conservative London mayor drew
:17:37. > :17:39.criticism for dog whistle politics when he accused his Labour opponent
:17:40. > :17:41.Siddiq Khan of sharing a platform with terrorist sympathisers
:17:42. > :17:44.Earlier this week Newsnight's Secunder Kermani caught up
:17:45. > :17:47.with Zac Goldsmith and put some of the charges to him.
:17:48. > :17:50.Zac, do you feel comfortable with the prominence of race in this
:17:51. > :17:53.No, I'm not doing any interviews at the moment,
:17:54. > :17:56.No, but do you feel comfortable or not?
:17:57. > :17:58.We're very comfortable with the campaign, it's
:17:59. > :18:03.Zac, everyone is saying this isn't you, do you regret taking
:18:04. > :18:04.on Lynton Crosby's firm to run your campaign?
:18:05. > :18:10.Well I'm joined now by the leader of the Conservative group
:18:11. > :18:12.on the Greater London Assembly, Andrew Boff.
:18:13. > :18:18.Good evening, what do you make of Zac Goldsmith's campaign? I think it
:18:19. > :18:24.was mostly good but I was really troubled by one particular aspect of
:18:25. > :18:28.it. That's Wednesday, when he started to equate people of
:18:29. > :18:31.conservative religious views with sympathising with terrorism. That
:18:32. > :18:39.sent a message out to many of the communities in London that is very
:18:40. > :18:43.difficult to justify. Was it dog whistle politics? I don't think it
:18:44. > :18:47.was dog whistle, you can't hear dog whistle, everybody could hear this.
:18:48. > :18:49.It was effectively saying people of conservative religious views are not
:18:50. > :18:54.to be trusted and you shouldn't share a platform with them, that's
:18:55. > :18:57.outrageous. They seemed to forget 24 team wasn't a great year for the
:18:58. > :19:00.Conservative Party in London, one of the few boroughs that swung to us
:19:01. > :19:06.was in Newark where the Conservatives there actively engaged
:19:07. > :19:10.with the Muslim community. Now those bridges that have been built have
:19:11. > :19:15.been... A few of them have been blown up by this campaign. As
:19:16. > :19:19.serious as that? You think they've done lasting damage? I think it has
:19:20. > :19:21.and a lot of us on the ground will have to spend a lot of time on
:19:22. > :19:29.trying to re-establish those links. He received advice and he was wrong
:19:30. > :19:31.to accept the advice, from whoever the campaign people were. He wasn't
:19:32. > :19:37.orchestrating who was orchestrating a campaign if
:19:38. > :19:42.not that Goldsmith himself? It's something I intend to ask after the
:19:43. > :19:48.election result, but I don't want us to do this in London again, it's
:19:49. > :19:52.done real damage. People might say you are saying that because you went
:19:53. > :19:57.for the nomination and didn't get it... They can say what they like
:19:58. > :20:01.really, can't they? I've been loyal to Zac all the way three, I think
:20:02. > :20:04.he's an excellent candid and what really hurts me is I don't think
:20:05. > :20:11.this sounds like authentic Zac Goldsmith, this kind of political I
:20:12. > :20:15.didn't think was Zac, it doesn't have his stamp on it. He said in an
:20:16. > :20:22.interview in the Guardian, very briefly he said he really wasn't a
:20:23. > :20:26.normal campaign. It's not enjoyable. -- it wasn't a normal campaign. Do
:20:27. > :20:30.you think he was a puppet? I think there was so much we could have
:20:31. > :20:32.attacked Sadiq Khan four, his unrealistic economic policy,
:20:33. > :20:39.destruction of investment if he brings in his housing policies. The
:20:40. > :20:42.threat to step free access on transport network if you freezes
:20:43. > :20:45.fares. All of these things are great things that we could have attacked
:20:46. > :20:53.and we chose to use this particular policy mean as the centre of the
:20:54. > :20:56.campaign, it was ridiculous. You say it's blown up a lot of ridges. If
:20:57. > :21:03.it's going to damage a campaign it won't just be Zac Goldsmith. Do you
:21:04. > :21:06.worry if other considered candidates standing for council? I believe it
:21:07. > :21:11.will affect Conservatives at the sharp end especially in areas with a
:21:12. > :21:16.high Muslim publishing. -- population. We've taken a couple of
:21:17. > :21:21.steps back during the period of this campaign. Two other people in the
:21:22. > :21:25.party share the concerns you have? Yes, I'm not alone. Obviously we
:21:26. > :21:27.don't shout about it during the campaign, we are loyal
:21:28. > :21:30.Conservatives, we hit the streets, campaign for the Conservatives. Were
:21:31. > :21:35.you getting backlash on the doorstep? Yes. If you don't bring it
:21:36. > :21:41.up during the campaign, what will happen now? I did bring it up to Zac
:21:42. > :21:46.'s team during the campaign, I mentioned I thought it was a mistake
:21:47. > :21:51.for future integration of London. You know, this is... If you are a
:21:52. > :21:55.London politician this is just a bizarre, bizarre thing to do. And
:21:56. > :21:59.the Conservative Party will suffer, you were saying? I believe so. We're
:22:00. > :22:03.going to make sure the Conservative Party doesn't suffer.
:22:04. > :22:05.As soon as one vote is over along comes another one...
:22:06. > :22:08.Ahead of the EU referendum our final film in Gabriel Gatehouse's
:22:09. > :22:10.trilogy looking at the EU from the perspective
:22:11. > :22:13.He's been touring continental Europe seeing whether the reality has
:22:14. > :22:16.matched the original post war dream, what has suceeded beyond
:22:17. > :22:18.the founding father's dreams, and what has fallen short
:22:19. > :22:28.of their grand vision of a united and prosperous Europe.
:22:29. > :22:39.Out of the ruins of war arose a vision of Europe.
:22:40. > :22:45.The founding fathers dreamt of ever closer union.
:22:46. > :22:47.All governments wanted to remain half free.
:22:48. > :23:03.And so, we've come to the third and final part in our series.
:23:04. > :23:05.In this chapter, we're going to focus on the
:23:06. > :23:08.Has monetary union furthered those original
:23:09. > :23:10.aims of the founders of the
:23:11. > :23:30.Europe was built on the promise of a shared prosperity.
:23:31. > :23:37.That was the deal, that was the dream.
:23:38. > :23:41.This is the reality of life in Greece today.
:23:42. > :23:43.Naoussa, 500 kilometres north of Athens, was once
:23:44. > :23:56.When the factories began to fail in the
:23:57. > :23:59.1990s, people got by on a mixture of credit and government subsidies.
:24:00. > :24:14.networks are strong, the rise of the bread queue
:24:15. > :24:21.is a sign that things have gone very wrong indeed.
:24:22. > :24:26.Tasos lost his job as a casual labourer
:24:27. > :24:30.They have an infant daughter and they can't
:24:31. > :24:36.Almost every day we listen to the news, and they always
:24:37. > :24:49.Nearly half the residents of this town are unemployed.
:24:50. > :24:52.And these are the people who've been hit hardest.
:24:53. > :24:59.Many blame their own leaders for the economic mess,
:25:00. > :25:07.This austerity, these measures, they are so cruel.
:25:08. > :25:21.Last year they voted overwhelmingly against austerity.
:25:22. > :25:30.Faith in the European project is evaporating,
:25:31. > :25:32.but many fear that life outside the euro would be even
:25:33. > :25:45.So it came to pass that a radical left-wing government
:25:46. > :25:49.democratically elected on a promise to keep national asset in state
:25:50. > :25:51.hands is selling off Piraeus, the largest
:25:52. > :25:54.port in the country, to
:25:55. > :26:04.The monster in this cautionary tale is the so-called
:26:05. > :26:09.troika, the European Commission, the European Central Bank, and the IMF.
:26:10. > :26:12.The moral of the story, if you want to be part
:26:13. > :26:14.of a club, you have to
:26:15. > :26:57.In the cradle of democracy, the will of the people has been trumped by
:26:58. > :27:00.the will of Brussels. The idea of a single currency was to promote
:27:01. > :27:07.closer cooperation to the benefit of all. But there's a problem. From the
:27:08. > :27:11.very beginning there were questions. Can you have monetary union without
:27:12. > :27:16.having political union as well? Can you have a single currency and lots
:27:17. > :27:24.of different economic policies? What Greece shows us is that you can't.
:27:25. > :27:28.Earlier in this seaweed we met George Bertrand, former chief of
:27:29. > :27:34.staff to one of the founding fathers of the EU. Like many true believers,
:27:35. > :27:39.his solution to this economic conundrum is closer union.
:27:40. > :27:51.Kretschmer early in this series. At the time it was discussed I was
:27:52. > :27:59.very strongly... We had a meeting... He said, we have to have that in
:28:00. > :28:05.common. We have common currency. We have the common economy policy. And
:28:06. > :28:09.we don't have any political responsibility to evolve the policy,
:28:10. > :28:23.to manage it and to control it. The single currency was supposed to
:28:24. > :28:30.synchronise economies. But Europe's members aren't all dancing to the
:28:31. > :28:36.same June. -- tune. This is Maastricht, the place where the euro
:28:37. > :28:44.was born. It was once an innocuous provincial Dutch town. Until, that
:28:45. > :28:51.is, they signed a treaty here. Note to the left, 360. The document so
:28:52. > :28:54.divisive it spit parties and governments tottered. Maastricht has
:28:55. > :29:00.come to embody Britain's fractious relationship with Europe.
:29:01. > :29:05.Maastricht isn't universally synonymous with nightmare, with
:29:06. > :29:10.strife. Elsewhere the significance of this city is it is the place
:29:11. > :29:16.where a community became a union, wet European leaders took several
:29:17. > :29:22.steps towards that dream of a federal Europe.
:29:23. > :29:27.We go in search of the document, which is housed in a sort of modern
:29:28. > :29:39.castle. Apparently surrounded by a moat.
:29:40. > :29:47.Eric Lemmons is the curator, the man who guards the treaty. For
:29:48. > :29:55.this is it. It's a copy, not the original. Maybe after the Rome
:29:56. > :30:00.Treaty the most important treaty signed between the European
:30:01. > :30:07.countries. We persuade them to open up the Cabinet. So we can leave
:30:08. > :30:12.through the treaty for ourselves. This is the signatures page. We've
:30:13. > :30:16.got Denmark... The first signature page. Portugal and the United
:30:17. > :30:20.Kingdom. These famous British opt outs, that is the protocol. They are
:30:21. > :30:28.all in here somewhere. How significant is this document? On a
:30:29. > :30:32.macro this treaty? Very significant. The European Union was founded on
:30:33. > :30:35.this treaty and because of the common European currency, which was
:30:36. > :30:47.also established by this treaty. Yeah.
:30:48. > :30:56.In Germany they have a single word that describes their post-war
:30:57. > :31:01.resurrection. Come to the Porsche factory in Stuttgart and see for
:31:02. > :31:05.yourself. But there's more to this economic miracle than efficiency
:31:06. > :31:10.alone. Germany has also been the clear winner from the euro. The
:31:11. > :31:15.crisis in the Eurozone in Greece and elsewhere has kept the euro week.
:31:16. > :31:20.And that is good for Germany's export driven economy. Now, it may
:31:21. > :31:24.seem a little unfair to take the slick production lines of the
:31:25. > :31:29.Porsche factory as your comparison for the rest of European
:31:30. > :31:33.manufacturing. But in fact this place is emblematic of Germany's
:31:34. > :31:37.success. What monetary union has done is it has favoured German
:31:38. > :31:43.exports, and that in turn has helped this country come out on top. The
:31:44. > :31:47.workers at Porsche may celebrate their stable, well-paid jobs. But
:31:48. > :31:58.they are also wary of Germany's growing economic dominance. Spain or
:31:59. > :32:01.Portugal, no chance against a big industrial republic like Germany.
:32:02. > :32:08.There is a realisation that German success depends on the survival of
:32:09. > :32:14.the union. Yeah, why did Germany bailout Greece? It is because all
:32:15. > :32:23.are connected somehow to each other. And if one goes then the whole
:32:24. > :32:28.system is collapsing. Here is a confident country, and one that
:32:29. > :32:31.mostly believes in the European project. They are frustrated with
:32:32. > :33:09.those who just don't seem to get it. Now, hold on a minute. Whatever else
:33:10. > :33:24.the Germans are good at, we are the ones that make the jokes.
:33:25. > :33:32.When we meet, we have a little moment, are heart-to-heart from one
:33:33. > :33:37.evening show to another. Who watches television in the morning? I have no
:33:38. > :33:45.idea. People who need help. Many of his jokes seem to revolve around
:33:46. > :33:49.sausage. But he uses wurst to make serious points, about Germany's
:33:50. > :33:58.unease as its role as leader in the economic and migrant crises. In
:33:59. > :34:03.Germany there is an expression to do with wurst, it means mingling along
:34:04. > :34:08.and seeing what happens. Can we continue like that? Can we continue
:34:09. > :34:15.to sausage our way through Europe? I invented a whole new expression.
:34:16. > :34:19.Well, it worked for the last five or six years. Not so sure if it is
:34:20. > :34:23.really the master plan for the next years. But one thing you can be
:34:24. > :34:28.sure, there will never be at German government which will say, OK, now
:34:29. > :34:32.we really take the lead. If you lead the way and the rest follows and it
:34:33. > :34:36.doesn't work, they hate you for the rest of your life. Even we want to
:34:37. > :34:44.be loved. That's the sad truth. Even the Germans want to be liked. It's
:34:45. > :34:48.been more than 65 years since Europe set out upon a journey that has led
:34:49. > :34:57.to today's complex union of 28 member states. But from the very
:34:58. > :35:03.beginning the founding fathers identified one country as key to the
:35:04. > :35:05.European project. We wanted to give Germany a path to recovery,
:35:06. > :35:13.sovereignty, with us, not against us. Making sure that the German
:35:14. > :35:19.recovery would not become a threat. But an asset. This is what happened.
:35:20. > :35:27.It just happened that the most powerful country in Europe believes
:35:28. > :35:33.in Europe, the European dream. And so we are back where we were at the
:35:34. > :35:36.beginning of our series. In this German town overlooking the Rhine
:35:37. > :35:40.into France. Whatever you think about the post-war European project,
:35:41. > :35:46.its greatest achievement surely is this, that it does now seem
:35:47. > :35:50.inconceivable for any member of the union to take up arms against
:35:51. > :35:58.another. If the European dream is peace then the EU has succeeded. But
:35:59. > :36:05.as Europe struggles to find common responses to the crises of the
:36:06. > :36:11.21st-century, it's clear: the EU is today about more than peace. The
:36:12. > :36:14.question is, how much more? That's the issue that now provides this
:36:15. > :36:19.continent. When the very first mental health
:36:20. > :36:23.champion for schools in England was appointed by the government
:36:24. > :36:25.last summer, Natasha Devon's new role was announced
:36:26. > :36:28.with great fanfare. The appointment was part of a wider
:36:29. > :36:33.government initiative to improve children and young people's mental
:36:34. > :36:38.health over the next five years - including the way services
:36:39. > :36:40.work with schools. But then last week in a speech
:36:41. > :36:43.to the Headmasters' and Headmistresses conference
:36:44. > :36:46.Natasha Devon said this about testing of school
:36:47. > :36:48.children in schools: At one end of the scale we've got
:36:49. > :36:53.four-year-olds being tested. At the other end of
:36:54. > :36:55.the scale we've got teenagers leaving school,
:36:56. > :37:01.facing the prospect of leaving university with record
:37:02. > :37:03.amounts of debt. Anxiety is the fastest-growing
:37:04. > :37:07.illness in under 21s. She was told on Tuesday
:37:08. > :37:23.by the Department for Education Good evening. What are your
:37:24. > :37:31.substantive concerns about child mental health? My concern is that we
:37:32. > :37:35.know that the person's socio- economic circumstances affect their
:37:36. > :37:40.mental health. We know that looked after children, half of them will
:37:41. > :37:44.leave care exhibiting symptoms of mental illness compared with one in
:37:45. > :37:47.ten in the wider population. My concern is that the government is
:37:48. > :37:52.giving with one hand, and taking away with another. I go into three
:37:53. > :37:56.schools are weak, talk with about 500 teenagers, and they tell me that
:37:57. > :38:00.things like exam stress or concerns about career prospects when they
:38:01. > :38:05.leave school, are affecting them until health. Until we address those
:38:06. > :38:09.root causes, we can have all the services in the world, but we will
:38:10. > :38:11.not get to the root of the issue. When you made the speech to the
:38:12. > :38:17.headteachers, did the government know what you were going to say, the
:38:18. > :38:20.gist of it? No. Well, when I was first offered this role in August
:38:21. > :38:23.last year I enquired as to whether there would be any payment for the
:38:24. > :38:29.role, it is a very high profile role. I was told that no, they
:38:30. > :38:33.couldn't even pay my expenses because it was very important that I
:38:34. > :38:37.remained independent and objective. So I took them at their word and I
:38:38. > :38:41.did remain independent and objective, and I wouldn't have taken
:38:42. > :38:44.the role if that hadn't been on the table. We are now told that this new
:38:45. > :38:47.mental health champion is going to be introduced which will render my
:38:48. > :38:52.role obsolete, but that it will be role. There are two con versions you
:38:53. > :38:56.can come to. Either I was lied to and they were trying to get the
:38:57. > :38:59.benefit of my expertise without paying me, or this new mental health
:39:00. > :39:05.champion will be paid effectively to toe the party line. So, you made the
:39:06. > :39:08.speech, then you are told very quickly afterwards, your job is
:39:09. > :39:15.obsolete, why do you think that happened? Is difficult. It's not
:39:16. > :39:18.outside the rounds of possibility that what the Department for
:39:19. > :39:21.Education are saying, that this was a task force recommendation that has
:39:22. > :39:26.come to pass, and that it was outside of their control, it is not
:39:27. > :39:31.outside the realms of possibility that it is true but it seems very
:39:32. > :39:34.convenient. Let me just tell you, we have a response from the Department
:39:35. > :39:41.Frederick and. "Natasha Has done a great job of helping us raise the
:39:42. > :39:51.profile of children's mental health. Since that time the task force
:39:52. > :39:56.report has been produced with recommendations. We have asked
:39:57. > :40:01.Natasha to continue to work with us as we prepare to launch our activity
:40:02. > :40:05.later this year". They have asked me to continue sitting on a steering
:40:06. > :40:08.group very specifically looking at peer men touring, and that was a
:40:09. > :40:13.project in place before I took the role in August. However they have
:40:14. > :40:17.told me that I am no longer to make any statements publicly as mental
:40:18. > :40:21.health champion. From that statement what I garner is they still want the
:40:22. > :40:26.benefits of being associated with me but they just don't want me to say a
:40:27. > :40:29.thing that might embarrass them. Let me be absolutely clear. One of my
:40:30. > :40:33.instincts when this story broke was to hide under a table and wait for
:40:34. > :40:37.it all to blow over. I've been in this role for nine months, I've been
:40:38. > :40:41.going into schools and campaigning on mental health for nine years.
:40:42. > :40:44.I'll be fine, I'll just carry on doing what I've always done. When I
:40:45. > :40:47.first took the role I said to the department what I want to do is
:40:48. > :40:51.bring the concerns of young people and the people who teach them to
:40:52. > :40:56.government level. It is not me being silenced, it is young people and
:40:57. > :40:59.teachers, and that's why I am here. Do you think that the government
:41:00. > :41:04.doesn't take seriously enough the issues of mental health, young
:41:05. > :41:10.people and children in schools? I think the government knows that
:41:11. > :41:15.young people don't vote, or if they do they are very unlikely to vote
:41:16. > :41:19.Tory, and they have historically ignored their needs and the price
:41:20. > :41:26.that they've paid is that now we have seen a crisis in their mental
:41:27. > :41:30.health. And in terms of moving forward, how confident are you that
:41:31. > :41:36.enough will be done? I hope that the new mental health champion, which
:41:37. > :41:40.will be across all departments, is able to be a positive force for
:41:41. > :41:43.good. And I hope. There have been some good projects within the DFE
:41:44. > :41:49.and I wish them all the very best of luck with them. But I remain
:41:50. > :41:56.sceptical. Thank you for joining us. That's all we've done for. Remember
:41:57. > :42:00.to tune in to the election results programme. I will be in Scotland
:42:01. > :42:09.tomorrow to analyse all the results. Until then, good night.
:42:10. > :42:19.Temperatures reached into the high teens, low 20s across many parts of
:42:20. > :42:20.England and Wales today. Lots more warm sunshine to come. More cloud