:00:00. > :00:08.Now on BBC News, it is time for Newsnight with Emily Maitlis.
:00:09. > :00:10.Tonight - after Isis, the NHS, and creative celebrities -
:00:11. > :00:13.now house prices become the latest weapon in the EU Referendum debate.
:00:14. > :00:16.There would be a hit to the value of people's homes of
:00:17. > :00:21.At the same time mortgages will get more expensive
:00:22. > :00:25.Have we hit the bottom, or is there more to come?
:00:26. > :00:33.We talk the politics of panic and preposterous claims.
:00:34. > :00:41.As French investigators question or staff at Charles de Gaulle Airport
:00:42. > :00:44.a major multinational search for the missing Egyptian air jet finds
:00:45. > :00:47.And as the police investigate 29 Tory
:00:48. > :00:50.Constituencies to look at claims of overspending, we ask what the
:00:51. > :00:56.Electors are getting increasingly concerned that we are moving back
:00:57. > :01:03.to the days of the rotten boroughs where a party can buy an election.
:01:04. > :01:06.And we hear from the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson, as he
:01:07. > :01:20.Any good politician knows that if you want Middle England to sit up
:01:21. > :01:23.and listen, sooner or later you have to start talking about house prices.
:01:24. > :01:26.So tonight, yes, even real estate has become fair
:01:27. > :01:30.game in the war of words that is the EU referendum debate.
:01:31. > :01:33.The Chancellor, George Osborne, has claimed that price
:01:34. > :01:45.of our home will be hit by at least 10% in what he calls the
:01:46. > :01:48."profound economic shock" that would result from a vote to leave the EU.
:01:49. > :01:51.He revealed that the Treasury analysis being carried out on the
:01:52. > :01:54.short-term economic consequences concludes that by 2018, home owners
:01:55. > :02:03.Next week the Treasury will publish an announcement of what the
:02:04. > :02:07.immediate consequence will be. There will be a key to the value of
:02:08. > :02:12.peoples homes have at least 10% and up to 18%. At the same time
:02:13. > :02:17.mortgages will get more expensive and mortgage rates will go up. Some
:02:18. > :02:19.people will say that a price we are saying, I say we are stronger and
:02:20. > :02:22.better off inside the EU. Our political editor
:02:23. > :02:23.Nick Watt is here. What do you make
:02:24. > :02:28.of this intervention, Nick? Let's look at the small print and
:02:29. > :02:36.then the big print. The big print is that George Osborne
:02:37. > :02:39.wants us to think that if we left the European Union
:02:40. > :02:42.our home values would fall by 10%. Let's look at the small print, she
:02:43. > :02:46.did not say that proper developers could fall coming he said they would
:02:47. > :02:49.be hit because what those figures mean is that they would fall between
:02:50. > :02:52.0.6% and 0.8% because they are saying that the Office for
:02:53. > :02:54.Budget Responsibility says property What he's saying that they will
:02:55. > :02:59.fall off that percentage. So it is about not rising
:03:00. > :03:08.rather than falling. We also heard from the Leave side,
:03:09. > :03:15.Michael Gover making claims about the number of people who
:03:16. > :03:34.would enter the UK The idea of looking after a new
:03:35. > :03:37.group of patients equivalent of size to four the size of Birmingham is
:03:38. > :03:41.unsustainable. That would have huge consequences for the NHS. There
:03:42. > :03:45.would be a rise in accident and emergency attendances, up to six and
:03:46. > :03:47.13 million a year, an enormous additional demand on a system
:03:48. > :03:48.already under pressure. The small print, the Leave believe
:03:49. > :03:57.that this is one of their trump card -- cards because of the way that
:03:58. > :04:05.used in European expanded and they say that if four new
:04:06. > :04:10.Western and Balkan countries join the immigration from those countries
:04:11. > :04:13.by 2030 would be between 2.7 million and 5
:04:14. > :04:15.million. The first is that those five
:04:16. > :04:21.countries will all join in 2020. EU is very keen to get former
:04:22. > :04:28.Yugoslav republics in because it stabilises that former war zone,
:04:29. > :04:31.but not keen on getting tricky in. Assumption number two, you don't
:04:32. > :04:34.impose transitional controls, that is, limiting immigration to
:04:35. > :04:38.those countries the seven years. The UK did not do it in 2004
:04:39. > :04:44.although they did it in 2007. If you have transitional controls it
:04:45. > :04:52.goes down to 2.7. The third assumption, Turkey joining
:04:53. > :04:55.in 2020, which is highly unlikely. In France they would have to be
:04:56. > :04:59.a referendum for Turkey to join. Only one country is keen on Turkey
:05:00. > :05:03.joining and that is the UK, and now that the UK is having to consult
:05:04. > :05:07.voters they are becoming less keen. Sir John Mills is the chair
:05:08. > :05:11.of Labour Leave and is also a businessman and has
:05:12. > :05:17.chaired many housing committees. I'm going to start by looking
:05:18. > :05:21.at this idea that George Osborne raises, that a Brexit will massively
:05:22. > :05:24.affect the price of our homes. To be honest,
:05:25. > :05:33.of all the threats to the British economy Brexit is relatively small,
:05:34. > :05:37.if a threat at all, compared to what is happening in China and
:05:38. > :05:42.in Greece and potentially in Italy. Would you accept short-term that
:05:43. > :05:44.there could be profound economic shocks,
:05:45. > :05:52.which could hit the housing market? I am not sure that I buy the idea
:05:53. > :05:55.of a profound economic shock. I think life will go on much
:05:56. > :06:00.as it was before after Brexit. They will keep on creeping up, if
:06:01. > :06:12.anything, because of demand exceeding supply,
:06:13. > :06:15.but the chance of an enormous reduction but even if there was I
:06:16. > :06:19.am not so sure that this is such a bad thing anyway because prices are
:06:20. > :06:22.very high in the housing market. Let me ask you if honestly hand
:06:23. > :06:25.on heart you would tell apart some -- tear apart some of the wider
:06:26. > :06:28.claims on your side. We have heard Michael Gove
:06:29. > :06:30.suggesting that net immigration could swell to another five million
:06:31. > :06:33.if we stay, putting I do think it is likely that
:06:34. > :06:42.immigration will go up. A lower figure than
:06:43. > :06:47.the one they quote yet still a lot, if we have a living wage of ?5 an
:06:48. > :06:51.hour which is more than twice what So, as a Labour figure, would you
:06:52. > :07:01.say that price is too high, that ?9? No, there is a lot to be said
:07:02. > :07:06.for a living wage but it will also attract people in from the
:07:07. > :07:08.continent, particularly if there are very high
:07:09. > :07:12.levels of unemployment continuing. And he used this strong phrase,
:07:13. > :07:16.that it would put the NHS Sounds like it would spell the
:07:17. > :07:29.end of the NHS if we stayed in. There is a big problem
:07:30. > :07:32.because we don't spend nearly enough because of our rising population on
:07:33. > :07:34.new hospitals, schools and roads. That is why there is a bit
:07:35. > :07:41.of a crisis in all these areas. you would sit on a very different
:07:42. > :07:52.side to Michael Gove. Is your version of Out the same
:07:53. > :07:55.as his, would you want to be on You'd say that's the right way to
:07:56. > :08:00.go? I think there is something to be
:08:01. > :08:05.said for doing that because to control our borders we have to be
:08:06. > :08:08.outside the single market but it You don't have to be in
:08:09. > :08:15.the single market to sell to bed. He said
:08:16. > :08:19.we would be another Albania, does There's
:08:20. > :08:27.a new treaty coming with Canada. It did take a long time, but we're
:08:28. > :08:36.there and that seems a more I wonder if you feel happy, though,
:08:37. > :08:44.with the way that the Vote Leave You don't agree with that figure
:08:45. > :08:52.of 5 million new immigrants. You clearly don't agree that the NHS
:08:53. > :08:55.would collapse under this sort Is this helping your side to hear
:08:56. > :08:58.those sorts of claims I think there has been a
:08:59. > :09:08.fair bit of hyperbole on both sides You are much better off sticking to
:09:09. > :09:14.figures that people find credible and there is plenty of data
:09:15. > :09:18.around which is very important in this debate and I don't think you
:09:19. > :09:36.need to gild the lily to make the At the beginning of the week David
:09:37. > :09:42.Cameron was invoking Remain as a vote for ISIS. In between, actors
:09:43. > :09:47.popped up to reassure us that Britain would be more creative as
:09:48. > :09:50.part of the EU and Michael Gove suggested immigration could grow by
:09:51. > :09:54.another 5 million if we stayed in, as you have just been hearing. And
:09:55. > :10:01.the NHS would be under unsustainable pressure. Is anything sacred in this
:10:02. > :10:03.debate? Erie is the former adviser to Nick Clegg and a political
:10:04. > :10:09.columnist for the Daily Mail. Nice to see you. I wonder, Peter, if you
:10:10. > :10:15.look at the polls that seem now to put Remain with this ten point lead
:10:16. > :10:28.whether you think they have on the economic argument that was at the
:10:29. > :10:34.heart of all of this? I don't think so. I wouldn't say they have won it.
:10:35. > :10:38.I wouldn't be in favour of Leave if I thought the economic argued that
:10:39. > :10:43.was right. There are divisions. It hasn't been done very well and they
:10:44. > :10:47.need to sort themselves out in the three or five weeks that are left.
:10:48. > :10:52.So you think they can heal those divisions and how would they do
:10:53. > :11:01.that? I think the remain campaign has been very well run. There's been
:11:02. > :11:09.a consistent message. Whereas the Leave campaign, there are couple of
:11:10. > :11:17.lots... And the Labour lot. Yes. And they are saying different things.
:11:18. > :11:22.For me it is pretty obvious that we would flourish outside of the EU.
:11:23. > :11:26.When I introduced you I spoke about the weeks starting with this idea of
:11:27. > :11:31.ISIS, welcoming Brexit, and homeowners seeing prices tumble by
:11:32. > :11:38.80%. It is all rather apocalyptic on the remain macro side? By the
:11:39. > :11:41.ditties on both sides. -- Remain. On the one hand you have terrifying
:11:42. > :11:45.predictions about the NHS and people practically dying on the streets. On
:11:46. > :11:49.the other side with all practically be homeless, although it is the
:11:50. > :11:55.first thing I heard that might persuade me to vote Leave, that
:11:56. > :11:59.homes might become more affordable. At it goes on to say that mortgage
:12:00. > :12:03.rates will go up a master which is a recession as opposed to a cheaper
:12:04. > :12:09.housing market. I am still persuaded that we should vote In, but I am not
:12:10. > :12:13.looking to politicians to provide me with facts about the future. It is
:12:14. > :12:16.impossible to know. In the end is in the end is it is -- it is about an
:12:17. > :12:22.assessment of risk and possibility. Do you think we have run this the
:12:23. > :12:25.wrong way? We keep asking politicians what Out looks like.
:12:26. > :12:29.There are of course six different ways it could look like. You say
:12:30. > :12:34.from inside that you don't think politicians can provide those facts.
:12:35. > :12:37.So was there another way of tailoring this debate? Away from
:12:38. > :12:46.preposterous argument? Of course. There are quite good fact check
:12:47. > :12:55.outfits. But it doesn't stop people repeating the thing that they want
:12:56. > :12:59.to repeat. I think that curiously enough to Leave campaign have been
:13:00. > :13:03.more responsible. If you look at the inflammatory stuff from the Prime
:13:04. > :13:14.Minister, he invokes the caliphate of IS, I mean this is bullocks. He
:13:15. > :13:26.is invoking world war three. He is taking leave of his senses. When Mr
:13:27. > :13:33.Johnson, Boris Johnson, provides alerted observation... -- a good
:13:34. > :13:36.observation. The second Napoleon, there have been numerous attempts.
:13:37. > :13:45.But if you look at the response from Lord Heseltine or others, sensible
:13:46. > :13:54.remarks by Boris Johnson, they are fanatical. It goes back to a
:13:55. > :14:00.technique used... I did a pamphlet called Guilty Men about the campaign
:14:01. > :14:10.to keep us in the euro. Out there there are extremists, that was the
:14:11. > :14:15.line. Do you think that's true? Being In is quiet and nice? Is that
:14:16. > :14:18.how it has been played? I think what Peter is describing his politics.
:14:19. > :14:22.People do speak in exaggerated tones and they do make a case with these
:14:23. > :14:28.hyperbolic suggestions and implications about the future. It
:14:29. > :14:31.has always been thus. If you look at the referendum there were claims
:14:32. > :14:36.that babies would die if we voted for OV. Do you quietly by the
:14:37. > :14:39.north-east when you hear David Cameron saying that without the EU
:14:40. > :14:45.there would be war or ISIS want us to leave? Or do you say fair game?
:14:46. > :14:50.It is what you expect. They have to speak in simplistic terms because
:14:51. > :14:52.the amount of time people will spend thinking about this in the end is
:14:53. > :14:54.quite limited and they do look to politicians to do a lot of the
:14:55. > :15:01.macro... Most students cannot even name
:15:02. > :15:04.the date of the EU referendum, do you still think at the end
:15:05. > :15:07.of this that politicians are talking to themselves in a tiny
:15:08. > :15:10.circle or is it reaching out? This is an important debate,
:15:11. > :15:17.but I do repeat, the main case, particularly the Prime Minister,
:15:18. > :15:24.he's being reckless, making absurd statements, but I reckon the leave
:15:25. > :15:31.lot are being much more responsible. What you are trying to say
:15:32. > :15:36.in his studio, there is the awful lot on the one hand and awful
:15:37. > :15:41.on the other, but the BBC is part of the problem, you are playing
:15:42. > :15:47.it up. The Hitler story about Boris, which
:15:48. > :15:52.is a constructed story. What was the thing that you didn't
:15:53. > :15:56.like that I asked you about? What you are doing, creating
:15:57. > :16:00.a forced dichotomy between one lot of people telling lies and another
:16:01. > :16:03.a lot of people telling lies. The people telling the worst lies
:16:04. > :16:06.are David Cameron, George Osborne, Let's not pretend that you
:16:07. > :16:17.are impartial, by the way. You inflame the Hitler analogy
:16:18. > :16:25.and you turned that into a story. Would you
:16:26. > :16:29.like to have the last word? When people are biased like Peter
:16:30. > :16:33.and myself, we listen to politicians and we assume the people that we
:16:34. > :16:36.like our telling the truth and the people we don't like are not telling
:16:37. > :16:39.the truth, that is hard-wired into our brains
:16:40. > :16:47.and Peter has lost touch with that. To say that Isis are supporting the
:16:48. > :16:52.remain campaign, perfectly normal? There is a basic level of public
:16:53. > :16:55.debate which the remain side are At the risk of sounding biased,
:16:56. > :17:00.that is it. French aviation investigators are
:17:01. > :17:08.understood to have begun checking and questioning all ground staff
:17:09. > :17:11.at the Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris who had either
:17:12. > :17:14.a direct or an indirect link to The flight crashed
:17:15. > :17:18.into the Mediterranean just 20 minutes before it was due to land,
:17:19. > :17:21.killing all 66 on board. Investigators are pouring over the
:17:22. > :17:27.list of the plane's passengers and crew to look for a criminal record
:17:28. > :17:31.or ties to terror watch lists. So far, nothing has come to light
:17:32. > :17:33.that directly connects this Gabriel Gatehouse is in Paris
:17:34. > :17:37.and sent this report. More than 24 hours
:17:38. > :17:40.after it crashed, the first bits Investigators say they have
:17:41. > :17:45.recovered objects including luggage and human remains,
:17:46. > :17:49.belonging to passengers aboard EgyptAir flight 804, but they
:17:50. > :17:52.haven't yet found the crucial black box
:17:53. > :17:58.flight data recorders. The search and recovery operation
:17:59. > :18:02.which is led by Egypt is for the moment focused on a relatively small
:18:03. > :18:07.area, 40 miles in radius, just under But the longer the search goes on,
:18:08. > :18:15.the wider they need to look, as the current carries the bits of mangled
:18:16. > :18:20.wreckage in different directions. The Airbus A320 that disappeared
:18:21. > :18:28.yesterday had previously made an emergency landing, in 2013, while
:18:29. > :18:32.en route from Cairo to Istanbul. The pilot noticed one
:18:33. > :18:35.of the engines was overheating The problem was said
:18:36. > :18:44.to have been fixed. The Egyptian authorities have said
:18:45. > :18:47.they believe terrorism is the most likely cause
:18:48. > :18:49.although they have offered no Here in France, ministers have
:18:50. > :18:54.appealed for caution, saying they TRANSLATION: All hypotheses
:18:55. > :19:02.are being examined. There is no specific one being
:19:03. > :19:09.favoured because we have had no indication of the cause of the
:19:10. > :19:12.accident as yet, and we are still France has sent three
:19:13. > :19:16.investigators from its Air Accident But there is another investigation
:19:17. > :19:23.going on here at home. At Charles de Gaulle airport today,
:19:24. > :19:26.the usual security checks. This is already a country under
:19:27. > :19:29.a state of emergency. The investigation here is focusing
:19:30. > :19:32.on the question of whether anyone could have planted
:19:33. > :19:38.a bomb on board in Paris. A police source has told Newsnight
:19:39. > :19:42.that they are now pouring over hours The focus
:19:43. > :19:48.of the investigation is to try and trace the movement of everyone
:19:49. > :19:54.who had access to that plane. That means not just passengers
:19:55. > :19:59.and crew, but ground staff, as well, baggage handlers,
:20:00. > :20:01.technicians, catering staff. For what it's worth,
:20:02. > :20:03.the source added that they thought it was unlikely that
:20:04. > :20:06.a bomb could have been smuggled on board in Paris because of enhanced
:20:07. > :20:11.security measures already in place. European security officials have
:20:12. > :20:14.told the Associated Press news agency that they have checked
:20:15. > :20:17.the list of passengers and crew who boarded the flight in Paris and none
:20:18. > :20:27.was on any terror watch list. In Cairo, people gathered this
:20:28. > :20:29.afternoon to pray For now, we are still no closer
:20:30. > :20:35.to discovering why EgyptAir flight 804 dropped out of the sky in the
:20:36. > :20:42.early hours of yesterday morning. Police are investigating a number
:20:43. > :20:45.of Tory held constituencies over allegations they broke
:20:46. > :20:47.their local spending rules An investigation by Channel 4 News
:20:48. > :20:56.has questioned whether the Conservative party declared
:20:57. > :21:01.expenses centrally - instead of locally - which would have taken
:21:02. > :21:05.them over agreed spending limits. So what difference would it make
:21:06. > :21:13.if it were found to be illegal? In other words,
:21:14. > :21:16.is it beaurocratic nitpicking, In the 18th century, elections
:21:17. > :21:22.were filthy, corrupt affairs. This is the 1754 contest
:21:23. > :21:27.from the paintbrush of William Hogarth. There is bribing voters,
:21:28. > :21:31.mob violence and widespread fraud. Modern election rules were
:21:32. > :21:39.supposed to stop all this. Electors are getting increasingly
:21:40. > :21:41.concerned that we're moving back to the days of the rotten boroughs
:21:42. > :21:44.where a party can buy an election. I don't think as an election lawyer
:21:45. > :21:53.I could put my hand on my heart and say for the last 15-20 years
:21:54. > :21:56.we've had a copper-bottom guarantee that
:21:57. > :21:58.we've got free and fair elections I think we're losing
:21:59. > :22:03.that guarantee. OK, so I don't think they had battle
:22:04. > :22:07.buses in Hogarth's day. But Conservatives are accused
:22:08. > :22:10.of driving a coach, if not horses, The story was broken
:22:11. > :22:13.and developed in the past three To make sense of this story you have
:22:14. > :22:18.to realise there are two different The first is local,
:22:19. > :22:24.constituency spending limits. Here, roughly,
:22:25. > :22:26.a candidate can spend a maximum of It varies depending on the number
:22:27. > :22:32.of electors and the type of seats. However, there is also
:22:33. > :22:35.a national limit on what parties can Assuming they are contesting every
:22:36. > :22:44.seat in the election, which none of them do, they could spend
:22:45. > :22:48.a maximum of ?19.5 million in the 12 However, these are separate types
:22:49. > :22:53.of spending. One is local on local constituency
:22:54. > :22:56.campaigning, and the other is Local spending limits were never
:22:57. > :23:04.much of a problem because the parties had armies
:23:05. > :23:06.of volunteers to tramp But since 2005 half of Tory
:23:07. > :23:15.activists have left the party. The Tories were targeting 100
:23:16. > :23:18.key seats at the election. In many of those seats they did not
:23:19. > :23:21.have the party members on So what they decided to do was build
:23:22. > :23:27.up a big activist base of volunteers who were signed up
:23:28. > :23:29.through the party centrally and then to move them in buses to the area
:23:30. > :23:36.where they were needed most. At the last general election
:23:37. > :23:39.the Conservatives had five buses ferrying volunteers
:23:40. > :23:48.into target seats. Here is one arriving
:23:49. > :23:52.in the target seat of Thanet South. Then party chairman Grant Shapps was
:23:53. > :23:56.desperate to defeat Nigel Farage who Let's get out there
:23:57. > :23:59.and let's get campaigning. It is clear they have come to help
:24:00. > :24:02.the Conservative candidate You will be working with
:24:03. > :24:07.a good number of our locals. But unlike those locals,
:24:08. > :24:11.all the bussed in campaigners needed transport,
:24:12. > :24:14.feeding and a place to stay. In order to get people to turn out
:24:15. > :24:18.and campaign you have to make it If you give them food,
:24:19. > :24:23.say a free curry at the end of the day, and a beer, and encourage them
:24:24. > :24:27.to have a bit of fun together, you Channel 4 uncovered thousands
:24:28. > :24:33.of pounds worth of receipts on hotels and food for campaigners
:24:34. > :24:36.in target seats like Thanet South. None of which was recorded
:24:37. > :24:39.against local candidate spending. Gavin Miller QC is a specialist
:24:40. > :24:43.in election law and a former Labour What the law looks at is
:24:44. > :24:50.the end product of that work which has been done and then it looks back
:24:51. > :24:57.to see how you have funded it. So if the work that is being done
:24:58. > :25:01.by those campaigners is with the aim of promoting or procuring the
:25:02. > :25:05.particular election of a particular candidate in a constituency,
:25:06. > :25:08.the Labour candidate, the Liberal candidate, the Tory candidate,
:25:09. > :25:11.whoever it may be, if money is spent getting them there and locating them
:25:12. > :25:20.there to enable them to do that work, transport costs, subsistence,
:25:21. > :25:25.that is an election expense. We asked Craig McKinley,
:25:26. > :25:27.now Conservative MP for He referred us to the
:25:28. > :25:33.Conservative Party press office who If it is a mistake,
:25:34. > :25:55.it is because the rules are not being implicit enough
:25:56. > :25:58.about where the costing should go. And is it a mistake if it is that,
:25:59. > :26:02.unique to the Conservatives? What we are seeing,
:26:03. > :26:04.there is a conspiracy of silence in the other parties
:26:05. > :26:07.because they are all culpable. If there is a mistake being made,
:26:08. > :26:11.all the parties have made it and it does not seem fair that only
:26:12. > :26:14.Conservative MPs have been singled Labour also took activists to key
:26:15. > :26:18.seats using a bus they called The main difference with the
:26:19. > :26:24.Conservative operation seems to be that it was far smaller, and since
:26:25. > :26:29.Labour did not win many target seats, there are not many Labour MPs
:26:30. > :26:33.who are liable to legal challenge. I think since we introduced national
:26:34. > :26:36.spending limits it has given an excuse, a cover, to the national
:26:37. > :26:42.parties, where they have the money and can identify a particular
:26:43. > :26:45.constituency that is one of their marginals or one they want to win,
:26:46. > :26:48.where they need a little extra help, to spend money
:26:49. > :26:50.in that constituency and apportion Labour also declined our request
:26:51. > :26:59.for an interview and gave us The Lib Dems completely reject the
:27:00. > :27:18.idea that they bussed in activists. It is frustrating that
:27:19. > :27:22.the Conservatives are now trying to say that the leaders bus which each
:27:23. > :27:26.of the parties has and has always been deemed to be national expense,
:27:27. > :27:31.equates to the five battle buses that the Conservatives ran,
:27:32. > :27:34.crammed full of activists often because their own local activists
:27:35. > :27:38.were too old and not coming out. Bussed in to seat after seat
:27:39. > :27:45.after seat, week after week, during the campaign, where they were going
:27:46. > :27:48.in to canvas and deliver leaflets, do the things you would expect
:27:49. > :27:50.for a particular local candidate. Fiona Jones arrived at the criminal
:27:51. > :27:53.court to face a criminal charge... The penalties for misreporting
:27:54. > :27:59.your election spending are severe. In 1999 Labour MP Fiona Jones was
:28:00. > :28:02.convicted and immediately barred from public office, although the
:28:03. > :28:06.verdict was overturned on appeal. A dozen police forces are now
:28:07. > :28:08.investigating and Whatever happens next,
:28:09. > :28:14.it's a shame we don't have Hogarth That's all we have time
:28:15. > :28:27.for this evening. Before, we introduce you to No
:28:28. > :28:31.Such Thing as the News, a brand new series from the QI Elves with
:28:32. > :28:34.their own curious take on the week. Coming up next we have Artsnight
:28:35. > :28:37.which features the author We play you out tonight with
:28:38. > :28:46.Beach Boys legend Brian Wilson. I grabbed a couple
:28:47. > :28:49.of words with him before the first show of his Pet Sounds tour tonight
:28:50. > :28:52.at the London Palladium. # Round, round, get around,
:28:53. > :28:58.I get around... # Tell the teacher we're
:28:59. > :29:00.surfing # Wouldn't it be nice if we could
:29:01. > :29:13.wake up... I wanted to make
:29:14. > :29:15.an album that was just about as good as Rubber Soul, so we did it
:29:16. > :29:19.with my friend Tony Asher. We wrote God Only Knows and then
:29:20. > :29:22.we wrote the rest of the album. And Rubber Soul made such an impact
:29:23. > :29:26.on you, I wonder if you can take us When I heard it it was November
:29:27. > :29:30.1965. I was so blown away,
:29:31. > :29:34.it blew me away so much that I made What was the song,
:29:35. > :29:37.do you remember the song that you # I sat on the rug,
:29:38. > :29:45.drinking her wine And what was the sense at that
:29:46. > :29:52.moment, that you wanted to take away from it and create Pet Sounds, was
:29:53. > :29:55.there an emotion or a melody? A melody, a melody was
:29:56. > :29:59.the first thing I heard. After it was released,
:30:00. > :30:03.you heard from Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney said God Only Knows
:30:04. > :30:15.was the greatest song ever written. # God only knows what I'd be without
:30:16. > :30:31.# Though life would still go on, believe me
:30:32. > :30:33.# The world could show nothing to me
:30:34. > :30:37.# So what good would living do me?
:30:38. > :30:45.# God only knows what I'd be without you
:30:46. > :31:03.# God only knows what I'd do without you... #
:31:04. > :31:11.Hello and welcome to Sportsday on BBC News.
:31:12. > :31:15.James Anderson is the star with five wickets as England take control of